Fortuna and its effects

April 21, 2007

Dear Gaurav,

Kindly note that the corect TOB is that of the first cry of a newborn,because that is the first Breath...as per our revered Guruji...the late Shri K.S.Krishnamurthiji...

The late Shri M.P. Shanmugham,of Coimbatore,a very talented student of KSK,after extensive research,has found that the theory of ancient Hindu Sages,that at the time of Epoch,a particular part of the Zodiac arise...and after roughly nine months,when the MOON transits this very position,BIRTH takes place !

Mr.Shanmugham ,after extensive work with this theory, arrived at the popularly followed rule,( which I have also extensively worked with),and it works wonderfully well...However for correcting TOBs, this rule has been found by me to be very exact, 95 % of the time... (Ref : ASTROSECRETS & K.P., by M.P.Shanmugham,Vol II,Pp 205-210.)

I have corrected several TOB's sworn to have been recorded with a stopwatch...etc., but at the time when the head appears,or when the newborn is on the table (or floor...or whatever)... and found such corrected Times of Birth,as per Shanmugham's method, tally with happennings in life,as per Vimshottari Dasa...quite accurately...even the exact Date tallies with the transits of Sun/Moon?Dasa-lord etc...

This method is now being advocated by an Astrologer from Delhi,who has recently written a book on K.P. ....and his students attribute this "discovery" to him...!

As they say,the proof of the pudding is in eating it... unfortunately you seem to have spent more time discussing the issue, I wish you had corrected a few TOB's and re-cast the Birth Charts,of a few known individuals and compared actual events with the Dasa/Bhukti/Anthara...or better still the accuracy of the various CUSPS up to sub-sub level,example using IV or IXth cusp, for guaging the education level reached,and so on...with other cusps...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

"yobrevol" <yobrevol Sent: Saturday, 21 April, 2007 6:59:38 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste Raichur ji,

thank you for your mail, I have very very high respect for mr.Rao, just that I could not tally this method of checking correct birthtime, can you suggest other methods per KP about this...

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes:

Sorry to butt in.

The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

Good Luck

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Sorry for butting-in.. .Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P.

Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

Also, what is the relationshipsconnec tions of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth.

Kindly inform...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

"yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..> wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house

position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House,

where fortuna is found.> >

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar,

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April 21, 2007

Dear Gaurav,

Here is my analysis:

You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka planet

Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for wealth

because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its own

nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the 2nd

one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a badhaka

planet for your chart.

At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you lost

money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is located

in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra and

mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st house and

12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give you 1st

house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking 1st,

6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and 1st

house.

At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like

Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra, which

indicates loss.

In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose money

because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's

nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which shows

negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of loss.

Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially when

it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time when

jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.

Best wishes

G. Singh

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to

> synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons

> StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times

> however much one may try, withoutshifting other

> important pointers, which would shift the BT

> ridiculously earlier or later.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> >

> > Sorry to butt in.

> > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated

> by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned

followers.

> I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

> > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I

> checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more

often

> than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

> >

> > Good Luck

> >

> > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

> >

> > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-

> rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per

> your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into

> the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last

year

> with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even

> that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

> >

> > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having

> varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it

away

> since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary

> life.

> >

> > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses

are

> mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth.

Out

> of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the

> star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is

> in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

> >

> > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the

magican

> and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time,

> lyrastro1@ writes:

> > Dear Gaurav,

> > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the

> sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's

st-

> lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time

> correct , as per K.P.

> > Are you destined to make money in the

share

> markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

> > Also, what is the

relationshipsconnections

> of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

> > They should signify the IInd or the XIth

> or the VIth.

> > Kindly inform...

> > With best wishes,

> > L.Y.Rao.

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@>

> >

> > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM

> > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects

> >

> > Namaste Ramachandran ji,

> >

> > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who

> is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of

> rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is

the

> logic here..

> >

> > Gaurav

> > 3rd July 1979

> > 6.18am

> > jaipur, rajasthan

> >

> > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time,

> padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

> > Dear Bhaskar,

> >

> > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their

luck;

> either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The

> Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act

to

> give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or

> 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear

KP

> principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems.

For

> those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any

> gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who

are

> making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and

also

> there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As

a

> test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the

> market and test out the results.

> >

> > V.Ramachandran.

> >

> > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@

> .co. in> wrote: Sir,

> >

> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to

the

> > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope.

> If

> > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > fortunate??? //

> >

> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is

> anyone

> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

> source

> > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house

it

> > falls in.

> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

pointers

> > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

not

> > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are

> > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

same,

> > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

> > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

fortunes

> > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> >

> > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all

> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar

> <kdbhaskar7@ ..>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

> > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

> offer

> > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

favour

> > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of

its

> > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

say

> > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to

> its

> > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

every

> > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > >

> > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for

the

> > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > +91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote:

> > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

Moon -

> > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360

> > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> calculate

> > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in

> > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky)

in

> > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > >

> >

> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:

> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

> > point in the

> > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

> > kundali ,

> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > >

> > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > time 21.38

> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > >

> > > Good Luck

> > > Raichur A R

> > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > account

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> > >

> >

> > See what's free at AOL.com.

> >

> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> >

> > See what's free at AOL.com.

> >

> > See what's free at AOL.com.

> >

> > Good Luck

> > Raichur A R

> > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account

> >

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> >

>

April 21, 2007

Try the RP method - it appears to be more suitable

than this one.

Best wishes,

Amitabh

--- yobrevol wrote:

>

> Namaste Raichur ji,

>

> thank you for your mail, I have very very high

> respect for mr.Rao, just that

> I could not tally this method of checking correct

> birthtime, can you suggest

> other methods per KP about this...

>

> Gaurav

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India

> Standard Time,

> raichurar writes:

>

> Sorry to butt in.

> The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I

> repeat, stated by Late KSK,

> but has been formulated, later by his learned

> followers. I have not found

> that it works in 100 percent cases.

> Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was

> authentic, and I checked some

> for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more

> often than not, didi not

> satisfy this rule.

>

> Good Luck

>

> yobrevol wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

>

> In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my

> lagna is mer-rahu and the

> star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So

> per your statement it is

> incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the

> chart of my daughter who was

> born in the hospital room last year with me

> standing with a stop watch to

> time her birth-time, and even that does not

> tally..so I am not sure what to make

> of it.

>

> I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me

> having varogottama

> navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it

> away since that makes my

> chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

>

> In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and

> 11th houses are mer, jup,

> mer, venus respectively with the current time of

> birth. Out of these, mer and

> jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the

> star lord of jupiter,

> posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the

> star of mars who is the lord

> of 6th and 11th in 12th.

>

> I leave herein for your further insight, and you are

> the magican and I am

> merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

>

> Gaurav

>

> In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India

> Standard Time,

> lyrastro1 a message

>

> Dear Gaurav,

> Sorry for butting-in..

> Firstly, does the sub-lord and

> sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's

> st-lord and sub-lord

> respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct

> , as per K.P.

> Are you destined to make

> money in the share markets at

> all ? This needs to be examined first...

> Also, what is the

> relationshipsconnecAlso, what is

> the relationshipsconnec<WBR> & XIth cusps ?

> They should signify the IInd

> or the XIth or the VIth.

> Kindly inform...

> With best wishes,

> L.Y.Rao.

>

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> " yobrevol:

> " yobrevol<yobrevol

> @groTo:

> Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM

> Re: Re: Fortuna and its

> effects

>

> Namaste Ramachandran ji,

>

> I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter

> exalted, who is also in

> LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs

> of rupees ( in dollars)

> last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the

> logic here..

>

> Gaurav

> 3rd July 1979

> 6.18am

> jaipur, rajasthan

>

> In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India

> Standard Time,

> padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

>

> Dear Bhaskar,

>

> There is a simple logic to all those who want to

> check their luck; either

> through fortuna or through Gems or through stock

> market.The Lagna Lord must be

> strong and signify those houses which will act to

> give you wealth. If the

> Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no

> amount of gimmicks will

> produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let

> us not deviate our attention

> with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna

> lord, even the horary

> will not show any gain from stock market. I

> personally think that your Clients

> who are making money in the market must be having

> strong lagna lord.and also

> there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th

> with the 11th. As a test,

> you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain

> in the market and test out

> the results.

>

> V.Ramachandran.

>

> On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar

> <_bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in_

> (bhaskar_jyotish) > wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always

> brings fortune to the

> native with respect to its house position in the

> natal horoscope. If

> this could be, then every person on this planet

> would have

> fortunate??? //

>

> Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,

> neither is anyone

> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the

> clue to the source

> wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on

> which house it

> falls in.

> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we

> look for pointers

> for the person being fortunate in certain speheres

> of life and not

> all which is general commons sense.. For example

> some persons are

> Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very

> good in the same,

> but may not be good in earning good money. Some are

> fortunate in

> having a good younger brother,while others may have

> their fortunes

> coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose

> charts the

> Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

>

> Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal

> Chart for

> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp

> system is after all

>

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April 21, 2007

what is rp method-pls let me know,by theway r u in uk?where about?london?

Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 1:46:21 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Try the RP method - it appears to be more suitablethan this one.Best wishes,Amitabh--- yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:> > Namaste Raichur ji,> > thank you for your mail, I have very very high> respect for mr.Rao, just that > I could not tally this method of checking correct> birthtime, can you suggest > other methods per KP about this...> > > Gaurav> > In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India> Standard Time, > raichurar writes:> > Sorry to butt in.> The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I> repeat, stated by Late KSK, > but has been formulated, later by his learned> followers. I have not found > that it works in 100 percent cases.>

Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was> authentic, and I checked some > for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more> often than not, didi not > satisfy this rule.> > Good Luck> > > yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:> > > > > > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,> > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my> lagna is mer-rahu and the > star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So> per your statement it is > incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the > chart of my daughter who was > born in the hospital room last year with me > standing with a stop watch to > time her birth-time, and even that does not > tally..so I am not sure what to make > of it. > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did

suggest me> having varogottama > navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it> away since that makes my > chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life. > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and> 11th houses are mer, jup, > mer, venus respectively with the current time of> birth. Out of these, mer and > jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the> star lord of jupiter, > posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the> star of mars who is the lord > of 6th and 11th in 12th. > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are> the magican and I am > merely an observer eager to learn the tricks. > > Gaurav> > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India> Standard Time, > lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) In a message

> > > Dear Gaurav,> Sorry for butting-in..> Firstly, does the sub-lord and > sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's> st-lord and sub-lord > respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct> , as per K.P.> Are you destined to make> money in the share markets at > all ? This needs to be examined first...> Also, what is the> relationshipsconnec Also, what is > the relationshipsconnec <WBR> & XIth cusps ?> They should signify the IInd> or the XIth or the VIth.> Kindly inform...> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > "yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) > "yobrevol<yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) yob>>

@gro > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM> Re: Re: Fortuna and its> effects> > > > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,> > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter> exalted, who is also in > LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs> of rupees ( in dollars) > last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the> logic here..> > Gaurav> 3rd July 1979> 6.18am> jaipur, rajasthan> > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India> Standard Time, > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:> > Dear Bhaskar,> > There is a simple logic to all those who want to> check their luck; either > through fortuna or through Gems or through stock> market.The Lagna Lord must be > strong and signify those houses

which will act to> give you wealth. If the > Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no> amount of gimmicks will > produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let> us not deviate our attention > with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna> lord, even the horary > will not show any gain from stock market. I > personally think that your Clients > who are making money in the market must be having> strong lagna lord.and also > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th> with the 11th. As a test, > you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain> in the market and test out > the results.> > V.Ramachandran.> > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar> <_bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in_ > (bhaskar_jyotish@ .co.

in) > wrote: > > > > > Sir,> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always > brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the> natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every person on this planet> would have > fortunate??? //> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,> neither is anyone> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the> clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on> which house it > falls in.> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we> look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres> of life and not > all which is general commons sense.. For example> some persons are > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very> good in the same, > but may

not be good in earning good money. Some are> fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have> their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose > charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal> Chart for> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp> system is after all> === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try itnow.http://uk.answers. /

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Dear Mr. Rao,In Shanmukham/s Book-part 2, he has explained the theory of matching Lagna sublord with moon starlord etc.. He has also clearly said the if they are not same, they should be connected and how etc.Matching

sub-sub of lagna with moon's sub is generally a correction of few minutes.But matching the lagna sub with moon's star is a huge correction, if same planet has to appear.. Hence the corollary has been stipulated for birth time correction, I feel. Please correct me if you feel to do so.

V.Ramachandran.On 4/21/07, Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a wrote:

Try the RP method - it appears to be more suitable

than this one.

Best wishes,

Amitabh

--- yobrevol wrote:

>

> Namaste Raichur ji,

>

> thank you for your mail, I have very very high

> respect for mr.Rao, just that

> I could not tally this method of checking correct

> birthtime, can you suggest

> other methods per KP about this...

>

> Gaurav

>

> In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India

> Standard Time,

> raichurar writes:

>

> Sorry to butt in.

> The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I

> repeat, stated by Late KSK,

> but has been formulated, later by his learned

> followers. I have not found

> that it works in 100 percent cases.

> Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was

> authentic, and I checked some

> for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more

> often than not, didi not

> satisfy this rule.

>

> Good Luck

>

> yobrevol wrote:

>

> Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

>

> In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my

> lagna is mer-rahu and the

> star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So

> per your statement it is

> incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the

> chart of my daughter who was

> born in the hospital room last year with me

> standing with a stop watch to

> time her birth-time, and even that does not

> tally..so I am not sure what to make

> of it.

>

> I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me

> having varogottama

> navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it

> away since that makes my

> chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

>

> In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and

> 11th houses are mer, jup,

> mer, venus respectively with the current time of

> birth. Out of these, mer and

> jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the

> star lord of jupiter,

> posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the

> star of mars who is the lord

> of 6th and 11th in 12th.

>

> I leave herein for your further insight, and you are

> the magican and I am

> merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

>

> Gaurav

>

> In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India

> Standard Time,

> lyrastro1 a message

>

> Dear Gaurav,

> Sorry for butting-in..

> Firstly, does the sub-lord and

> sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's

> st-lord and sub-lord

> respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct

> , as per K.P.

> Are you destined to make

> money in the share markets at

> all ? This needs to be examined first...

> Also, what is the

> relationshipsconnecAlso, what is

> the relationshipsconnec<WBR> & XIth cusps ?

> They should signify the IInd

> or the XIth or the VIth.

> Kindly inform...

> With best wishes,

> L.Y.Rao.

>

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> " yobrevol:

> " yobrevol<yobrevol

> @gro

> Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM

> Re: Re: Fortuna and its

> effects

>

> Namaste Ramachandran ji,

>

> I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter

> exalted, who is also in

> LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs

> of rupees ( in dollars)

> last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the

> logic here..

>

> Gaurav

> 3rd July 1979

> 6.18am

> jaipur, rajasthan

>

> In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India

> Standard Time,

> padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

>

> Dear Bhaskar,

>

> There is a simple logic to all those who want to

> check their luck; either

> through fortuna or through Gems or through stock

> market.The Lagna Lord must be

> strong and signify those houses which will act to

> give you wealth. If the

> Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no

> amount of gimmicks will

> produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let

> us not deviate our attention

> with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna

> lord, even the horary

> will not show any gain from stock market. I

> personally think that your Clients

> who are making money in the market must be having

> strong lagna lord.and also

> there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th

> with the 11th. As a test,

> you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain

> in the market and test out

> the results.

>

> V.Ramachandran.

>

> On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar

> <_bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in_

> (bhaskar_jyotish) > wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always

> brings fortune to the

> native with respect to its house position in the

> natal horoscope. If

> this could be, then every person on this planet

> would have

> fortunate??? //

>

> Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,

> neither is anyone

> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the

> clue to the source

> wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on

> which house it

> falls in.

> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we

> look for pointers

> for the person being fortunate in certain speheres

> of life and not

> all which is general commons sense.. For example

> some persons are

> Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very

> good in the same,

> but may not be good in earning good money. Some are

> fortunate in

> having a good younger brother,while others may have

> their fortunes

> coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose

> charts the

> Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

>

> Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal

> Chart for

> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp

> system is after all

>

=== message truncated ===

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Dear Sujata Das I quote for page 327 reader 2 1975 reprint "It is equivalent to adding Tithi to Lagna" Actual the Thithi is found by dividing diif between Moon and sun by 12, as the tithi has a duration of 12 degrees. sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: Dear mr raichur,The formula for fortuna has no mention of tithi.Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Sujata What was the tithi (moon-sun) at these two times ? If tithi has changed, then the positon of fortuna also changes. sujata das <sujatadash1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: dear bhasker,I calculated fortuna for 5-5-55 for delhi for 11am and 6am.It came to dhanu(8th house) and tula(7th house) repectively.regardssujataDharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear tw,You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA can never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.Learned members can verify it.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Ex I, New Delhi Mob: 91-9910048040tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar,Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.Regards,tw , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear sir,> > I would like to draw attention

that KP system is preferred due to its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.> > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but only define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in delineating the nativity in more

specific terms. Creation of Verga Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.> > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members and Astro scholar may ponder.> > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> South Ex I, New Delhi > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir,> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > fortunate???//> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is

anyone> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > falls in.> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic

Astrology.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the

> persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > +91-9910048040> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > Dear Chagantikiran> > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > chagantikiran

<chagantikiran@> wrote:> > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > point in the > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > kundali ,> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > time 21.38> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > account > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > D K Bhaskar> >

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Dear Shree Gaurav Please study and understand the discussion by Shree KSK in Reader 3 page 494 under heading RECTIFICATION OF BIRTH TIME ".sEE ALSO PAGE 503 where Guruji gives the Ruling Planets method, .Here he takes only 4 RPS. DayLord,Moon starlord, Moon Sign Lord, And asc sign Lord. These he says will be same as Sign Lord, StarLord, and Sub Lord, and Subsublord of the Lagna(the ascendent of the chart) yobrevol wrote: Namaste Raichur ji, thank you for your mail, I have very very high respect for mr.Rao, just that I could not tally this method of checking correct birthtime, can you suggest other methods per KP about this... Gaurav In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes: Sorry to butt in. The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases. Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also.

The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule. Good Luck yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji, In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it. I do concede

that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life. In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th. I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks. Gaurav In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes: Dear Gaurav, Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P. Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first... Also, what is the relationshipsconnections of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ? They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth. Kindly inform... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! "yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects Namaste Ramachandran ji, I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here.. Gaurav 3rd July 1979 6.18am jaipur, rajasthan In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes: Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a

clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran. On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to

the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue

in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..> wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this

planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part

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April 22, 2007

Namaste Raichur ji,

Thanks again for the pointer, I happen to have that reader with me here in NY, so will read thru it and try and learn.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/22/2007 12:49:29 P.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes:

Dear Shree Gaurav

Please study and understand the discussion by Shree KSK in Reader 3 page 494 under heading RECTIFICATION OF BIRTH TIME ".sEE ALSO PAGE 503 where Guruji gives the Ruling Planets method, .Here he takes only 4 RPS. DayLord,Moon starlord, Moon Sign Lord, And asc sign Lord.

These he says will be same as Sign Lord, StarLord, and Sub Lord, and Subsublord of the Lagna(the ascendent of the chart)

yobrevol wrote:

Namaste Raichur ji,

thank you for your mail, I have very very high respect for mr.Rao, just that I could not tally this method of checking correct birthtime, can you suggest other methods per KP about this...

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes:

Sorry to butt in.

The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

Good Luck

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P.

Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

Also, what is the relationshipsconnections of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth.

Kindly inform...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

"yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..> wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> >

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger>

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April 22, 2007

Namaste LY Rao ji,

Please know that I did try to rectify the time per your suggestion, but the time becomes drastically different that it becomes difficult to reason standard life events, that is all I am suggesting, and nothing more..I am sure the flaw lies in my learning of your concept, as you are senior guru and I am merely a dip, in any event, I will try to buy the book and attempt to learn..

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:18:40 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Are you only interested in academic discussions ? Or will you take the trouble to find out for yourself...that way you'll learn better...perhaps this is a hangover of studying through "guides"...? !

I have given you the rationale and the method, while without even trying out the method, you say you cannot or do not agree with me...which is most unfair on your part,to say the least...therefore unless,in future, you try out the method as suggested by me,and ensuring that you use K.P. Ayanamsa...there will be NO PURPOSE in pursuing futile discussions...for discussion sake...why don't you buy the book I've mentioned,study it carefully and then write...untill then...pl. desist from pursuing this discussion...

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

Raichur-a-r <raichurar Sent: Sunday, 22 April, 2007 12:48:30 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Dear Shree Gaurav

Please study and understand the discussion by Shree KSK in Reader 3 page 494 under heading RECTIFICATION OF BIRTH TIME ".sEE ALSO PAGE 503 where Guruji gives the Ruling Planets method, .Here he takes only 4 RPS. DayLord,Moon starlord, Moon Sign Lord, And asc sign Lord.

These he says will be same as Sign Lord, StarLord, and Sub Lord, and Subsublord of the Lagna(the ascendent of the chart)

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Raichur ji,

thank you for your mail, I have very very high respect for mr.Rao, just that I could not tally this method of checking correct birthtime, can you suggest other methods per KP about this...

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes:

Sorry to butt in.

The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

Good Luck

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Sorry for butting-in.. .Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P.

Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

Also, what is the relationshipsconnec tions of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth.

Kindly inform...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

"yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..> wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> >

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger>

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April 22, 2007

Namaste G.Singh ji,

It is a pleasure to read your mail after a long time, I hope you were able to win some lottery money as you were eagerly indicating a while ago.

In any event, your reading is a breaking news to me! The reason I write this is that, I have gemini lagna and not cancer lagna sir. Even with KP anayamsa, I still have gemini as the Lagna , the confusion and debate is over navamsa being either taurus or gemini. For rasi lagna, there is no confusion, it IS gemini. so kindly correct that part, ofcourse that changes the whole reading.

I often look at your chart and wonder what outcome it has given you so far...kindly do update.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:21:47 P.M. India Standard Time, hbk1hbk_2100 writes:

Dear Gaurav,Here is my analysis:You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka planet Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for wealth because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its own nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the 2nd one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a badhaka planet for your chart.At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you lost money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is located in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra and mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st house and 12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give you 1st house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking 1st, 6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and 1st house. At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra, which indicates loss. In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose money because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which shows negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of loss.Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially when it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time when jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.Best wishesG. Singh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Sir,> > Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to> synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons > StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times> however much one may try, withoutshifting other> important pointers, which would shift the BT > ridiculously earlier or later. > > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:> >> > Sorry to butt in.> > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated > by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. > I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.> > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I > checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often > than not, didi not satisfy this rule.> > > > Good Luck> > > > > > yobrevol@ wrote:> > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,> > > > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-> rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per > your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into > the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year > with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even > that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it. > > > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having > varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away > since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary > life. > > > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are > mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out > of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the > star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is > in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th. > > > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican > and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks. > > > > Gaurav> > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, > lyrastro1@ writes:> > Dear Gaurav,> > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the > sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-> lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time > correct , as per K.P.> > Are you destined to make money in the share > markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...> > Also, what is the relationshipsconnections > of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?> > They should signify the IInd or the XIth > or the VIth.> > Kindly inform...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > "yobrevol@" <yobrevol@>> > > > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM> > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects> > > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,> > > > > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the > logic here..> > > > Gaurav> > 3rd July 1979> > 6.18am> > jaipur, rajasthan> > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:> > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP > principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For > those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any > gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are > making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a > test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the > market and test out the results.> > > > V.Ramachandran.> > > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > .co. in> wrote: Sir,> > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. > If > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > > fortunate??? //> > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is > anyone> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the > source > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > > falls in.> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar > <kdbhaskar7@ ..> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will > offer > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to > its > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > D K Bhaskar> > > +91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote: > > > Dear Chagantikiran> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can > calculate > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > > point in the > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > > kundali ,> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > > time 21.38> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Raichur A R > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > > account > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > D K Bhaskar> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account> > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > Check outnew cars at Autos.> >>

April 22, 2007

Dear Gaurav,

Are you only interested in academic discussions ? Or will you take the trouble to find out for yourself...that way you'll learn better...perhaps this is a hangover of studying through "guides"...? !

I have given you the rationale and the method, while without even trying out the method, you say you cannot or do not agree with me...which is most unfair on your part,to say the least...therefore unless,in future, you try out the method as suggested by me,and ensuring that you use K.P. Ayanamsa...there will be NO PURPOSE in pursuing futile discussions...for discussion sake...why don't you buy the book I've mentioned,study it carefully and then write...untill then...pl. desist from pursuing this discussion...

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

Raichur-a-r <raichurar Sent: Sunday, 22 April, 2007 12:48:30 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Dear Shree Gaurav

Please study and understand the discussion by Shree KSK in Reader 3 page 494 under heading RECTIFICATION OF BIRTH TIME ".sEE ALSO PAGE 503 where Guruji gives the Ruling Planets method, .Here he takes only 4 RPS. DayLord,Moon starlord, Moon Sign Lord, And asc sign Lord.

These he says will be same as Sign Lord, StarLord, and Sub Lord, and Subsublord of the Lagna(the ascendent of the chart)

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Raichur ji,

thank you for your mail, I have very very high respect for mr.Rao, just that I could not tally this method of checking correct birthtime, can you suggest other methods per KP about this...

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes:

Sorry to butt in.

The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

Good Luck

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Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Sorry for butting-in.. .Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P.

Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

Also, what is the relationshipsconnec tions of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth.

Kindly inform...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

"yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..> wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house

position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House,

where fortuna is found.> >

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar,

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dear gaurav, i also follow the same theory mentioned by KSK my guruji (late hasbe)told us to take star of ascendant if only 2or 3 ruling planets are available and in that case give importance to asc.star also i follow that if rahu/ketu are directly in RP then only i select Rahu/ketu i dont select rahu/ketu as agents this is my experience . the members should try this also -sunil gondhalekarRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Shree Gaurav Please study and understand the discussion by Shree KSK in Reader 3 page 494 under heading RECTIFICATION OF BIRTH TIME ".sEE ALSO PAGE 503 where Guruji gives the Ruling Planets method, .Here he takes only 4 RPS. DayLord,Moon starlord, Moon Sign Lord, And asc sign Lord. These he says will be same as Sign Lord, StarLord, and Sub Lord, and Subsublord of the Lagna(the ascendent of the chart) yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Namaste Raichur ji, thank you for your mail, I have very very high respect for mr.Rao, just that I could not tally this method of checking

correct birthtime, can you suggest other methods per KP about this... Gaurav In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes: Sorry to butt in. The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases. Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule. Good Luck yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji, In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it. I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life. In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus

respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th. I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks. Gaurav In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes: Dear Gaurav, Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P. Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first... Also, what is the relationshipsconnections of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ? They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth. Kindly inform... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! "yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects Namaste Ramachandran ji, I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here.. Gaurav 3rd July 1979 6.18am jaipur, rajasthan In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes: Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain

in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran. On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls

in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..>

wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad

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Dear mr raichur,That means that with the change in lagna, the placement of fortuna will also change eg If lagna is aries at 6am on 5-5-55 at delhi, the fortuna falls at 185-00,while for 9-30pm,it is 42-37.regardssujataRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Sujata Das I quote for page 327 reader 2 1975 reprint "It is equivalent to adding Tithi to Lagna" Actual the Thithi is found by dividing diif between Moon and sun by 12, as the tithi

has a duration of 12 degrees. sujata das <sujatadash1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear mr raichur,The formula for fortuna has no mention of tithi.Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Sujata What was the tithi (moon-sun) at these two times ? If tithi has changed, then the positon of fortuna also changes. sujata das <sujatadash1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: dear bhasker,I calculated fortuna for 5-5-55 for delhi for 11am and

6am.It came to dhanu(8th house) and tula(7th house) repectively.regardssujataDharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear tw,You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA can never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.Learned members can verify it.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Ex I, New Delhi Mob: 91-9910048040tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar,Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.Regards,tw , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear sir,> > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the cuspal chart

is true horoscope so that twins can also be differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.> > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but only define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.> > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members and Astro scholar may ponder.> > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> South

Ex I, New Delhi > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir,> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > fortunate???//> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > falls in.> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be

very good in the same, > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer > favourable results where it is located, rather it

may cause favour > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > +91-9910048040> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > Dear Chagantikiran> > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon -

> Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > point in the > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > kundali ,> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > time 21.38> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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very good convincing explanation sir it is really good to see how jupiter has created loss and it is position in the hors.people immeditely come to conclusion that dana karaka jupiter exalted should only give good positive results in respect of financevenus exalted jupiter moolatrikona etc ... is good as it seenn by ordinary peoplebut in depth looked at gives bad resultsfather had jupiter in moolatriokona in dhanus own house for mithunal lagna with moon in lagna gajakesari yoga however he died in jupiter bukthi here jupiter in moola str kethu who is in 8th as jupiter connected to 8th by str 7th by occupation and also connected to 2nd moon in lagna the 2nd lord in str of raghu in 2nd yr explanation gives thoughts so many angles so very much thanks to y sir thank y sir once againhbk1hbk_2100 <hbk1hbk_2100 wrote: Dear Gaurav, Here is my analysis: You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka planet Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for wealth because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its own nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the 2nd one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a badhaka planet for your chart. At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you lost money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is located in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord

Mercury's nakshatra and mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st house and 12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give you 1st house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking 1st, 6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and 1st house. At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra, which indicates loss. In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose money because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which shows negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of loss. Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially when it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time when jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.

Best wishes G. Singh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Sir, > > Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to > synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons > StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times > however much one may try, withoutshifting other > important pointers, which would shift the BT > ridiculously earlier or later. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > > > Sorry to butt in. > > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated > by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. > I have not

found that it works in 100 percent cases. > > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I > checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often > than not, didi not satisfy this rule. > > > > Good Luck > > > > > > yobrevol@ wrote: > > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji, > > > > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer- > rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per > your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into > the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year > with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even > that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it. > > > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me

having > varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away > since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary > life. > > > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are > mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out > of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the > star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is > in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th. > > > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican > and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks. > > > > Gaurav > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, > lyrastro1@ writes: > > Dear Gaurav, > > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the > sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st- > lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time > correct , as per K.P. > > Are you destined to make money in the share > markets at all ? This needs to be examined first... > > Also, what is the relationshipsconnections > of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ? > > They should signify the IInd or the XIth > or the VIth. > > Kindly inform... > > With best wishes, > > L.Y.Rao. > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > > > > > "yobrevol@" <yobrevol@> > > > > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM > > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects > > > > Namaste Ramachandran ji, > > > > > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the > logic here.. > > > > Gaurav > > 3rd July 1979 > > 6.18am > > jaipur, rajasthan > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes: > > Dear Bhaskar, > >

> > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP > principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For > those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any > gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are > making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a > test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the > market and test out the results. > > > > V.Ramachandran.

> > > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > .co. in> wrote: Sir, > > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. > If > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > > fortunate??? // > > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is > anyone > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the > source > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > > falls in. > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > > all which is general commons sense.. For

example some persons are > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar > <kdbhaskar7@ ..> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused

with the > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will > offer > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to > its > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > > person on this planet would have fortunate??? > > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > > calculate their Fortuna by formula: > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc. > > > > > > > > > Thanks &

Regards > > > D K Bhaskar > > > +91-9910048040 > > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote: > > > Dear Chagantikiran > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - > > Long of sun +Long of ASC) > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can > calculate > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found. > > > > > > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > > point in

the > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > > kundali , > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income . > > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976 > > > time 21.38 > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Raichur A R > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > > account > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > >

> D K Bhaskar > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > >

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Hello Gaurav,

I used your following birth data and came up with Cancer lagna 12

degrees and 10 minutes. I have checked twice. Please let me know what

lagna degree you are getting.

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

Speaking of winning large sum of wealth, this is what I have to say:

In my chart I have all planets with Ketu in 11th house and opposite

Rahu. So I can expect good results during Rahu or Ketu's bhuktis,

antharas, sookshamadasas in Jupiter's mahdasas if at that time Rahu

and Ketu are transiting favorable nakshatra.

Right now Saturn, Jupiter are in Mercury's nakshatra and Mercury is a

badhaka planet for my chart. Also Saturn is opposing all 7 planets in

11th house. But after July 07 Saturn will enter Ketu's nakshatra

during Saturn bhukti will be extremely good, and I will be in Ketu

anthara during august sept.

Later the Jupiter - Ketu and Jupiter - Rahu periods will be the

interesting ones. By the way I am starting my astrology business in

August this year in California. My website will be up and running in

July/August this year. I am just waiting for Saturn to leave Cancer

sign.

Best wishes

G. Singh

, yobrevol wrote:

>

> Namaste G.Singh ji,

>

> It is a pleasure to read your mail after a long time, I hope you

were able

> to win some lottery money as you were eagerly indicating a while

ago.

>

> In any event, your reading is a breaking news to me! The reason I

write this

> is that, I have gemini lagna and not cancer lagna sir. Even with

KP

> anayamsa, I still have gemini as the Lagna , the confusion and

debate is over navamsa

> being either taurus or gemini. For rasi lagna, there is no

confusion, it IS

> gemini. so kindly correct that part, ofcourse that changes the

whole reading.

>

> I often look at your chart and wonder what outcome it has given you

so

> far...kindly do update.

>

> Gaurav

>

> In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:21:47 P.M. India Standard Time,

> hbk1hbk_2100 writes:

>

> Dear Gaurav,

>

> Here is my analysis:

>

> You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka planet

> Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for wealth

> because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its own

> nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the 2nd

> one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a badhaka

> planet for your chart.

>

> At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you lost

> money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is

located

> in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra and

> mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st house and

> 12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give you

1st

> house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking 1st,

> 6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and 1st

> house.

> At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like

> Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra, which

> indicates loss.

>

> In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose

money

> because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's

> nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which shows

> negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of loss.

> Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially

when

> it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time when

> jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.

>

> Best wishes

>

> G. Singh

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to

> > synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons

> > StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times

> > however much one may try, withoutshifting other

> > important pointers, which would shift the BT

> > ridiculously earlier or later.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Sorry to butt in.

> > > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat,

stated

> > by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned

> followers.

> > I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

> > > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and

I

> > checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more

> often

> > than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

> > >

> > > Good Luck

> > >

> > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

> > >

> > > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is

mer-

> > rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So

per

> > your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look

into

> > the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last

> year

> > with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and

even

> > that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

> > >

> > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having

> > varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it

> away

> > since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary

> > life.

> > >

> > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th

houses

> are

> > mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of

birth.

> Out

> > of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is

the

> > star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus

is

> > in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

> > >

> > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the

> magican

> > and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > >

> > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard

Time,

> > lyrastro1@ writes:

> > > Dear Gaurav,

> > > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the

> > sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the

Moon's

> st-

> > lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time

> > correct , as per K.P.

> > > Are you destined to make money in the

> share

> > markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

> > > Also, what is the

> relationshipsconnections

> > of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

> > > They should signify the IInd or the XIth

> > or the VIth.

> > > Kindly inform...

> > > With best wishes,

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > GOOD LUCK !

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message ----

> > > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@>

> > >

> > > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM

> > > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects

> > >

> > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,

> > >

> > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted,

who

> > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs

of

> > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what

is

> the

> > logic here..

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > > 3rd July 1979

> > > 6.18am

> > > jaipur, rajasthan

> > >

> > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard

Time,

> > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

> > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > >

> > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their

> luck;

> > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock

market.The

> > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will

act

> to

> > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8

or

> > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a

clear

> KP

> > principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and

gems.

> For

> > those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show

any

> > gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who

> are

> > making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and

> also

> > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th.

As

> a

> > test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the

> > market and test out the results.

> > >

> > > V.Ramachandran.

> > >

> > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@

> > .co. in> wrote: Sir,

> > >

> > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune

to

> the

> > > native with respect to its house position in the natal

horoscope.

> > If

> > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > > fortunate??? //

> > >

> > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither

is

> > anyone

> > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

> > source

> > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which

house

> it

> > > falls in.

> > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> pointers

> > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

> not

> > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons

are

> > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

> same,

> > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate

in

> > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> fortunes

> > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> > >

> > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after

all

> > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar

> > <kdbhaskar7@ ..>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with

the

> > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

> > offer

> > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

> favour

> > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord

of

> its

> > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

> say

> > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect

to

> > its

> > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

> every

> > > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > > >

> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but

for

> the

> > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > +91-9910048040

> > > >

> > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote:

> > > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

> Moon -

> > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than

360

> > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> > calculate

> > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house

in

> > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE

(Lucky)

> in

> > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > > >

> > >

> > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:

> > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

> > > point in the

> > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in

my

> > > kundali ,

> > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > > >

> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > > time 21.38

> > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > > >

> > > > Good Luck

> > > > Raichur A R

> > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > > account

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

> > > >

> > >

> > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > >

> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

> > >

> > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > >

> > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > >

> > > Good Luck

> > > Raichur A R

> > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account

> > >

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > >

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April 22, 2007

Namaste G.Singh ji,

Based on the jHora, and KP anayamsa, I am getting the following:

July 3, 1979Time: 6:18:30 amTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 75 E 49' 10", 26 N 55' 10" jaipur, Rajasthan INDIAAltitude: 425.00 meters

Lunar Yr-Mo: Siddarthi - AshadhaTithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (13.38% left)Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)Nakshatra: Hastha (Mo) (14.04% left)Yoga: Parigha (Sa) (36.05% left)Karana: Bava (Su) (26.75% left)Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Ge)Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Li)Kaala Lord: Mars (Mahakala: Mars)

Sunrise: 5:40:52 amSunset: 7:20:33 pmJanma Ghatis: 1.5679

Ayanamsa: 23-28-03.72Sidereal Time: 0:33:37

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

Lagna 25 Ge 17' 38.97" Puna 2 Ge TaSun - BK 17 Ge 03' 56.94" Ardr 4 Ge PiMoon - AK 21 Vi 27' 38.49" Hast 4 Vi CnMars - GK 11 Ta 28' 40.13" Rohi 1 Ta ArMercury - PiK 12 Cn 56' 54.40" Push 3 Cn LiJupiter - AmK 17 Cn 43' 30.91" Asre 1 Cn SgVenus - DK 2 Ge 27' 38.00" Mrig 3 Ge LiSaturn - MK 16 Le 02' 16.54" PPha 1 Le LeRahu - PK 18 Le 03' 54.00" PPha 2 Le ViKetu 18 Aq 03' 54.00" Sata 4 Aq Pi

In all my practice, and discussions with some of the best jyotishas in the world, this is consistent. Further, there are probably 1000 reasons for gemini lagna and 0 for cancer lagna. anyways, please se if you re-concile, your opinion holds great value.

I wish you all the luck, and specially with your astrology practice, I know Mr Ullal, who is doing great in the west cost, among others. You will be pleased to know, that by request of one of the best and most famous astrologer out of Delhi, since last 1 yrs and 1 week after into my jupiter Md, I am doing jyotish quality gemstones business by reference from only selected astrologers. (only very fine and expensive "real" gems)...will try to make a website sometime soon..

Anyways, do spend some time, and lets see what your take with gemini lagna is...

Namaste

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/23/2007 1:02:42 A.M. India Standard Time, hbk1hbk_2100 writes:

Hello Gaurav,I used your following birth data and came up with Cancer lagna 12 degrees and 10 minutes. I have checked twice. Please let me know what lagna degree you are getting. 3rd July 19796.18amjaipur, rajasthanSpeaking of winning large sum of wealth, this is what I have to say:In my chart I have all planets with Ketu in 11th house and opposite Rahu. So I can expect good results during Rahu or Ketu's bhuktis, antharas, sookshamadasas in Jupiter's mahdasas if at that time Rahu and Ketu are transiting favorable nakshatra. Right now Saturn, Jupiter are in Mercury's nakshatra and Mercury is a badhaka planet for my chart. Also Saturn is opposing all 7 planets in 11th house. But after July 07 Saturn will enter Ketu's nakshatra during Saturn bhukti will be extremely good, and I will be in Ketu anthara during august sept. Later the Jupiter - Ketu and Jupiter - Rahu periods will be the interesting ones. By the way I am starting my astrology business in August this year in California. My website will be up and running in July/August this year. I am just waiting for Saturn to leave Cancer sign.Best wishesG. Singh , yobrevol wrote:>> > Namaste G.Singh ji,> > It is a pleasure to read your mail after a long time, I hope you were able > to win some lottery money as you were eagerly indicating a while ago. > > In any event, your reading is a breaking news to me! The reason I write this > is that, I have gemini lagna and not cancer lagna sir. Even with KP > anayamsa, I still have gemini as the Lagna , the confusion and debate is over navamsa > being either taurus or gemini. For rasi lagna, there is no confusion, it IS > gemini. so kindly correct that part, ofcourse that changes the whole reading. > > I often look at your chart and wonder what outcome it has given you so > far...kindly do update.> > Gaurav> > > In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:21:47 P.M. India Standard Time, > hbk1hbk_2100 writes:> > Dear Gaurav,> > Here is my analysis:> > You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka planet > Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for wealth > because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its own > nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the 2nd > one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a badhaka > planet for your chart.> > At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you lost > money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is located > in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra and > mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st house and > 12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give you 1st > house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking 1st, > 6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and 1st > house. > At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like > Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra, which > indicates loss. > > In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose money > because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's > nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which shows > negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of loss.> Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially when > it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time when > jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.> > Best wishes> > G. Singh> > > > , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote:> >> > Sir,> > > > Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to> > synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons > > StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times> > however much one may try, withoutshifting other> > important pointers, which would shift the BT > > ridiculously earlier or later. > > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:> > >> > > Sorry to butt in.> > > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated > > by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned > followers. > > I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.> > > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I > > checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more > often > > than not, didi not satisfy this rule.> > > > > > Good Luck> > > > > > > > > yobrevol@ wrote:> > > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,> > > > > > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-> > rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per > > your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into > > the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last > year > > with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even > > that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it. > > > > > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having > > varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it > away > > since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary > > life. > > > > > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses > are > > mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. > Out > > of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the > > star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is > > in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th. > > > > > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the > magican > > and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks. > > > > > > Gaurav> > > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, > > lyrastro1@ writes:> > > Dear Gaurav,> > > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the > > sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's > st-> > lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time > > correct , as per K.P.> > > Are you destined to make money in the > share > > markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...> > > Also, what is the > relationshipsconnections > > of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?> > > They should signify the IInd or the XIth > > or the VIth.> > > Kindly inform...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> > > "yobrevol@" <yobrevol@>> > > > > > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM> > > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects> > > > > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,> > > > > > > > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who > > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of > > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is > the > > logic here..> > > > > > Gaurav> > > 3rd July 1979> > > 6.18am> > > jaipur, rajasthan> > > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, > > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:> > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their > luck; > > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The > > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act > to > > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or > > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear > KP > > principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. > For > > those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any > > gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who > are > > making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and > also > > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As > a > > test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the > > market and test out the results.> > > > > > V.Ramachandran.> > > > > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > .co. in> wrote: Sir,> > > > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to > the > > > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. > > If > > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > > > fortunate??? //> > > > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is > > anyone> > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the > > source > > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house > it > > > falls in.> > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for > pointers > > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and > not > > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the > same, > > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their > fortunes > > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > regards,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar > > <kdbhaskar7@ ..> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will > > offer > > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause > favour > > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of > its > > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to > say > > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to > > its > > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then > every > > > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for > the > > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > > D K Bhaskar> > > > +91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote: > > > > Dear Chagantikiran> > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of > Moon - > > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can > > calculate > > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) > in > > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > > > point in the > > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > > > kundali ,> > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > > > time 21.38> > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > > Raichur A R > > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > > > account > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > D K Bhaskar> > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Raichur A R > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account> > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > Check outnew cars at Autos.> > >> >> > > > > > Links> > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.>

April 22, 2007

Dear Gaurav,Your lagna lord is Mercury which is in the first bhava owning houses1 and 4.Though in the Kshetra Kundali, Mercury and Jupiter are in the 2nd Rasi, as you put it, both have moved to 1st bhava. However, Jupiter being withon the orb of 3degrees and 20 minutes from Cancer, it will also give the benefit of 2nd Bhava, while Mercury will give only 1st bhava results as far as the Lagna strength is concerned.Mercury is in the star of saturn giving 3rd, 8th and 9th signification. 8th signification means profits to partner.So if you want to win from market, make your wife a partner and invest in her name. After all with Rahu' ruling the sub and stationed in the 3rd house, Mercury is a benefic for you.This is the way you take advantage of astrology. I stand corrected by Gurujan and senior members of this forum.V.Ramachandran.Mr. Singhji,Bhadak and Marak are effective only while calculating the longevity of the jathak and does not affetc any other signification.This is what I have learnt from the KP books and ReadersRamachandran..On 4/22/07, yobrevol

<yobrevol wrote:

Namaste G.Singh ji,

It is a pleasure to read your mail after a long time, I hope you were able to win some lottery money as you were eagerly indicating a while ago.

In any event, your reading is a breaking news to me! The reason I write this is that, I have gemini lagna and not cancer lagna sir. Even with KP anayamsa, I still have gemini as the Lagna , the confusion and debate is over navamsa being either taurus or gemini. For rasi lagna, there is no confusion, it IS gemini. so kindly correct that part, ofcourse that changes the whole reading.

I often look at your chart and wonder what outcome it has given you so far...kindly do update.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:21:47 P.M. India Standard Time, hbk1hbk_2100 writes:

Dear Gaurav,Here is my analysis:You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka planet Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for wealth because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its own nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the 2nd one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a badhaka planet for your chart.At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you lost money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is located in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra and mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st house and 12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give you 1st house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking 1st, 6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and 1st house. At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra, which indicates loss. In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose money because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which shows negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of loss.Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially when it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time when jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.Best wishesG. Singh , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Sir,> > Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to> synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons > StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times> however much one may try, withoutshifting other> important pointers, which would shift the BT > ridiculously earlier or later. > > regards,> Bhaskar.> > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:> >> > Sorry to butt in.> > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated > by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. > I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.> > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I > checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often > than not, didi not satisfy this rule.> > > > Good Luck> > > > > > yobrevol@ wrote:> > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,> > > > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-> rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per > your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into > the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year > with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even > that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it. > > > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having > varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away > since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary > life. > > > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are > mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out > of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the > star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is > in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th. > > > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican > and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks. > > > > Gaurav> > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, > lyrastro1@ writes:> > Dear Gaurav,> > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the > sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-> lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time > correct , as per K.P.> > Are you destined to make money in the share > markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...> > Also, what is the relationshipsconnections > of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?> > They should signify the IInd or the XIth > or the VIth.> > Kindly inform...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@>> > > > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM> > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects> > > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,> > > > > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the > logic here..> > > > Gaurav> > 3rd July 1979> > 6.18am> > jaipur, rajasthan> > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:> > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP > principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For > those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any > gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are > making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a > test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the > market and test out the results.> > > > V.Ramachandran.> > > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > .co. in> wrote: Sir,> > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. > If > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > > fortunate??? //> > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is > anyone> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the > source > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > > falls in.> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar > <kdbhaskar7@ ..> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will > offer > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to > its > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > D K Bhaskar> > > +91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote: > > > Dear Chagantikiran> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can > calculate > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > > point in the > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > > kundali ,> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > > time 21.38> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Raichur A R > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > > account > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?> > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > D K Bhaskar> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account> > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?> > Check outnew cars at Autos.> >>

April 22, 2007

3rd July 1979, 6.18am,jaipur, rajasthan, 26N55, 75E49, KPAstro 2.5-->

Sid Time 00-33-06, Asc Ge 25-10-08, Moon Vi 21-26-36, Moon dasa

balance 1y-5m-0d.

Regards,

tw

, " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100

wrote:

>

> Hello Gaurav,

>

> I used your following birth data and came up with Cancer lagna 12

> degrees and 10 minutes. I have checked twice. Please let me know

what

> lagna degree you are getting.

>

> 3rd July 1979

> 6.18am

> jaipur, rajasthan

>

> Speaking of winning large sum of wealth, this is what I have to

say:

>

> In my chart I have all planets with Ketu in 11th house and

opposite

> Rahu. So I can expect good results during Rahu or Ketu's bhuktis,

> antharas, sookshamadasas in Jupiter's mahdasas if at that time

Rahu

> and Ketu are transiting favorable nakshatra.

> Right now Saturn, Jupiter are in Mercury's nakshatra and Mercury

is a

> badhaka planet for my chart. Also Saturn is opposing all 7 planets

in

> 11th house. But after July 07 Saturn will enter Ketu's nakshatra

> during Saturn bhukti will be extremely good, and I will be in Ketu

> anthara during august sept.

> Later the Jupiter - Ketu and Jupiter - Rahu periods will be the

> interesting ones. By the way I am starting my astrology business

in

> August this year in California. My website will be up and running

in

> July/August this year. I am just waiting for Saturn to leave

Cancer

> sign.

>

> Best wishes

>

> G. Singh

>

> , yobrevol@ wrote:

> >

> > Namaste G.Singh ji,

> >

> > It is a pleasure to read your mail after a long time, I hope you

> were able

> > to win some lottery money as you were eagerly indicating a while

> ago.

> >

> > In any event, your reading is a breaking news to me! The reason

I

> write this

> > is that, I have gemini lagna and not cancer lagna sir. Even with

> KP

> > anayamsa, I still have gemini as the Lagna , the confusion and

> debate is over navamsa

> > being either taurus or gemini. For rasi lagna, there is no

> confusion, it IS

> > gemini. so kindly correct that part, ofcourse that changes the

> whole reading.

> >

> > I often look at your chart and wonder what outcome it has given

you

> so

> > far...kindly do update.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> > In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:21:47 P.M. India Standard Time,

> > hbk1hbk_2100@ writes:

> >

> > Dear Gaurav,

> >

> > Here is my analysis:

> >

> > You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka planet

> > Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for

wealth

> > because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its own

> > nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the

2nd

> > one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a badhaka

> > planet for your chart.

> >

> > At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you

lost

> > money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is

> located

> > in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra

and

> > mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st house

and

> > 12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give

you

> 1st

> > house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking

1st,

> > 6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and

1st

> > house.

> > At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like

> > Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra,

which

> > indicates loss.

> >

> > In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose

> money

> > because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's

> > nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which

shows

> > negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of

loss.

> > Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially

> when

> > it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time

when

> > jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > G. Singh

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to

> > > synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons

> > > StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times

> > > however much one may try, withoutshifting other

> > > important pointers, which would shift the BT

> > > ridiculously earlier or later.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sorry to butt in.

> > > > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat,

> stated

> > > by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned

> > followers.

> > > I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

> > > > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic,

and

> I

> > > checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times,

more

> > often

> > > than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

> > > >

> > > > Good Luck

> > > >

> > > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

> > > >

> > > > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is

> mer-

> > > rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu.

So

> per

> > > your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look

> into

> > > the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room

last

> > year

> > > with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time,

and

> even

> > > that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

> > > >

> > > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me

having

> > > varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed

it

> > away

> > > since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather

ordinary

> > > life.

> > > >

> > > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th

> houses

> > are

> > > mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of

> birth.

> > Out

> > > of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is

> the

> > > star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd.

Venus

> is

> > > in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

> > > >

> > > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the

> > magican

> > > and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

> > > >

> > > > Gaurav

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard

> Time,

> > > lyrastro1@ writes:

> > > > Dear Gaurav,

> > > > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does

the

> > > sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the

> Moon's

> > st-

> > > lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time

> > > correct , as per K.P.

> > > > Are you destined to make money in the

> > share

> > > markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

> > > > Also, what is the

> > relationshipsconnections

> > > of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

> > > > They should signify the IInd or the XIth

> > > or the VIth.

> > > > Kindly inform...

> > > > With best wishes,

> > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > >

> > > > ----- Original Message ----

> > > > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@>

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM

> > > > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,

> > > >

> > > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter

exalted,

> who

> > > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many

lacs

> of

> > > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what

> is

> > the

> > > logic here..

> > > >

> > > > Gaurav

> > > > 3rd July 1979

> > > > 6.18am

> > > > jaipur, rajasthan

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard

> Time,

> > > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

> > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check

their

> > luck;

> > > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock

> market.The

> > > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will

> act

> > to

> > > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to

8

> or

> > > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a

> clear

> > KP

> > > principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and

> gems.

> > For

> > > those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show

> any

> > > gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients

who

> > are

> > > making money in the market must be having strong lagna

lord.and

> > also

> > > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the

11th.

> As

> > a

> > > test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in

the

> > > market and test out the results.

> > > >

> > > > V.Ramachandran.

> > > >

> > > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > .co. in> wrote: Sir,

> > > >

> > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings

fortune

> to

> > the

> > > > native with respect to its house position in the natal

> horoscope.

> > > If

> > > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > > > fortunate??? //

> > > >

> > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,

neither

> is

> > > anyone

> > > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to

the

> > > source

> > > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which

> house

> > it

> > > > falls in.

> > > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> > pointers

> > > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life

and

> > not

> > > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some

persons

> are

> > > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in

the

> > same,

> > > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are

fortunate

> in

> > > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> > fortunes

> > > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts

the

> > > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> > > >

> > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart

for

> > > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is

after

> all

> > > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar

> > > <kdbhaskar7@ ..>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with

> the

> > > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna

will

> > > offer

> > > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

> > favour

> > > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star

lord

> of

> > its

> > > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous

to

> > say

> > > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with

respect

> to

> > > its

> > > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be,

then

> > every

> > > > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > > > >

> > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but

> for

> > the

> > > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have

to

> > > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > > +91-9910048040

> > > > >

> > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long

of

> > Moon -

> > > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more

than

> 360

> > > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> > > calculate

> > > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the

house

> in

> > > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE

> (Lucky)

> > in

> > > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

> > > > point in the

> > > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated

in

> my

> > > > kundali ,

> > > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > > > >

> > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > > > time 21.38

> > > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > > > >

> > > > > Good Luck

> > > > > Raichur A R

> > > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > > > account

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New

Delhi

> > > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

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> > > > >

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> > > >

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> > > > Raichur A R

> > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

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> > > >

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>

April 23, 2007

Dear Ramachandran ji,

I respectfully disagree with you. The badhaka planet will give you

worst results if it is in the nakshatra of occupant or lord of 8th or

12th house. It will lead to suicidal tendencies. The native faces one

problem after the other, and faces problems in all fronts of life. It

leads to suicide, murder, diseases, accidents etc. Badhaka planet can

give you a life worse than death without actually giving you death in

this case during its dasa or bhukti, if Saturn, Rahu, Ketu are

simultaneously transiting in badhaka, 8th or 12th lord's nakshatras

But the badhaka planet can give you very good results if it is

deposited in the nakshatras of the occupant or owner of 2nd , 10th or

11th house.

This is mentioned in KP books also and I have tested these rules on

many charts.

G. Singh

, " Padma Ramachandran "

<padma.ramachandran wrote:

>

> Dear Gaurav,

>

> Your lagna lord is Mercury which is in the first bhava owning

houses1 and

> 4.Though in the Kshetra Kundali, Mercury and Jupiter are in the 2nd

Rasi, as

> you put it, both have moved to 1st bhava. However, Jupiter being

withon the

> orb of 3degrees and 20 minutes from Cancer, it will also give the

benefit of

> 2nd Bhava, while Mercury will give only 1st bhava results as far as

the

> Lagna strength is concerned.Mercury is in the star of saturn giving

3rd, 8th

> and 9th signification. 8th signification means profits to

partner.So if you

> want to win from market, make your wife a partner and invest in her

name.

> After all with Rahu' ruling the sub and stationed in the 3rd house,

Mercury

> is a benefic for you.This is the way you take advantage of

astrology. I

> stand corrected by Gurujan and senior members of this forum.

>

> V.Ramachandran.

>

> Mr. Singhji,

>

> Bhadak and Marak are effective only while calculating the longevity

of the

> jathak and does not affetc any other signification.This is what I

have

> learnt from the KP books and Readers

>

> Ramachandran..

>

> On 4/22/07, yobrevol <yobrevol wrote:

> >

> > Namaste G.Singh ji,

> >

> > It is a pleasure to read your mail after a long time, I hope you

were able

> > to win some lottery money as you were eagerly indicating a while

ago.

> >

> > In any event, your reading is a *breaking news to me!* The reason

I write

> > this is that, I have gemini lagna and not cancer lagna sir. Even

with KP

> > anayamsa, I still have gemini as the Lagna , the confusion and

debate is

> > over navamsa being either taurus or gemini. For rasi lagna, there

is no

> > confusion, it IS gemini. so kindly correct that part, ofcourse

that changes

> > the whole reading.

> >

> > I often look at your chart and wonder what outcome it has given

you so

> > far...kindly do update.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> > In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:21:47 P.M. India Standard Time,

> > hbk1hbk_2100 writes:

> >

> > Dear Gaurav,

> >

> > Here is my analysis:

> >

> > You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka planet

> > Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for wealth

> > because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its own

> > nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the 2nd

> > one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a badhaka

> > planet for your chart.

> >

> > At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you lost

> > money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is

located

> > in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra and

> > mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st house and

> > 12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give you

1st

> > house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking 1st,

> > 6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and 1st

> > house.

> > At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like

> > Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra, which

> > indicates loss.

> >

> > In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose

money

> > because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's

> > nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which shows

> > negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of loss.

> > Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially

when

> > it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time when

> > jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > G. Singh

> >

> > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to

> > > synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons

> > > StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times

> > > however much one may try, withoutshifting other

> > > important pointers, which would shift the BT

> > > ridiculously earlier or later.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sorry to butt in.

> > > > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat,

stated

> > > by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned

> > followers.

> > > I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

> > > > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and

I

> > > checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more

> > often

> > > than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

> > > >

> > > > Good Luck

> > > >

> > > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

> > > >

> > > > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is

mer-

> > > rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So

per

> > > your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look

into

> > > the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last

> > year

> > > with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and

even

> > > that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

> > > >

> > > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having

> > > varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it

> > away

> > > since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary

> > > life.

> > > >

> > > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th

houses

> > are

> > > mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of

birth.

> > Out

> > > of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is

the

> > > star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd.

Venus is

> > > in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

> > > >

> > > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the

> > magican

> > > and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

> > > >

> > > > Gaurav

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard

Time,

> > > lyrastro1@ writes:

> > > > Dear Gaurav,

> > > > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does

the

> > > sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's

> > st-

> > > lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time

> > > correct , as per K.P.

> > > > Are you destined to make money in the

> > share

> > > markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

> > > > Also, what is the

> > relationshipsconnections

> > > of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

> > > > They should signify the IInd or the

XIth

> > > or the VIth.

> > > > Kindly inform...

> > > > With best wishes,

> > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > GOOD

LUCK !

> > > >

> > > > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@>

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM

> > > > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,

> > > >

> > > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted,

who

> > > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs

of

> > > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what

is

> > the

> > > logic here..

> > > >

> > > > Gaurav

> > > > 3rd July 1979

> > > > 6.18am

> > > > jaipur, rajasthan

> > > >

> > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard

Time,

> > > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

> > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > >

> > > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their

> > luck;

> > > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock

market.The

> > > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will

act

> > to

> > > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8

or

> > > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a

clear

> > KP

> > > principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and

gems.

> > For

> > > those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show

any

> > > gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who

> > are

> > > making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and

> > also

> > > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th.

As

> > a

> > > test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the

> > > market and test out the results.

> > > >

> > > > V.Ramachandran.

> > > >

> > > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > .co. in> wrote: Sir,

> > > >

> > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune

to

> > the

> > > > native with respect to its house position in the natal

horoscope.

> > > If

> > > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > > > fortunate??? //

> > > >

> > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither

is

> > > anyone

> > > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

> > > source

> > > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which

house

> > it

> > > > falls in.

> > > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> > pointers

> > > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

> > not

> > > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons

are

> > > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

> > same,

> > > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate

in

> > > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> > fortunes

> > > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> > > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> > > >

> > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after

all

> > > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar

> > > <kdbhaskar7@ ..>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with

the

> > > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

> > > offer

> > > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

> > favour

> > > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord

of

> > its

> > > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

> > say

> > > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect

to

> > > its

> > > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

> > every

> > > > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > > > >

> > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but

for

> > the

> > > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > > +91-9910048040

> > > > >

> > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

> > Moon -

> > > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than

360

> > > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> > > calculate

> > > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the

house in

> > > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE

(Lucky)

> > in

> > > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

> > > > point in the

> > > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in

my

> > > > kundali ,

> > > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > > > >

> > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > > > time 21.38

> > > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > > > >

> > > > > Good Luck

> > > > > Raichur A R

> > > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > > > account

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New

Delhi

> > > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > > >

> > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

> > > >

> > > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > > >

> > > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > > >

> > > > Good Luck

> > > > Raichur A R

> > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account

> > > >

> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > > >

> > >

> >

April 23, 2007

Hello Gaurav,

I made mistake while selecting longitude latitude for Jaipur. I

agree with you your lagna is Gemini as calculated by TW below.

I will analyze your situation again when I get time.

Take care

G. Singh

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> 3rd July 1979, 6.18am,jaipur, rajasthan, 26N55, 75E49, KPAstro 2.5--

>

> Sid Time 00-33-06, Asc Ge 25-10-08, Moon Vi 21-26-36, Moon dasa

> balance 1y-5m-0d.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Gaurav,

> >

> > I used your following birth data and came up with Cancer lagna 12

> > degrees and 10 minutes. I have checked twice. Please let me know

> what

> > lagna degree you are getting.

> >

> > 3rd July 1979

> > 6.18am

> > jaipur, rajasthan

> >

> > Speaking of winning large sum of wealth, this is what I have to

> say:

> >

> > In my chart I have all planets with Ketu in 11th house and

> opposite

> > Rahu. So I can expect good results during Rahu or Ketu's bhuktis,

> > antharas, sookshamadasas in Jupiter's mahdasas if at that time

> Rahu

> > and Ketu are transiting favorable nakshatra.

> > Right now Saturn, Jupiter are in Mercury's nakshatra and Mercury

> is a

> > badhaka planet for my chart. Also Saturn is opposing all 7

planets

> in

> > 11th house. But after July 07 Saturn will enter Ketu's nakshatra

> > during Saturn bhukti will be extremely good, and I will be in

Ketu

> > anthara during august sept.

> > Later the Jupiter - Ketu and Jupiter - Rahu periods will be the

> > interesting ones. By the way I am starting my astrology business

> in

> > August this year in California. My website will be up and running

> in

> > July/August this year. I am just waiting for Saturn to leave

> Cancer

> > sign.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > G. Singh

> >

> > , yobrevol@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste G.Singh ji,

> > >

> > > It is a pleasure to read your mail after a long time, I hope

you

> > were able

> > > to win some lottery money as you were eagerly indicating a

while

> > ago.

> > >

> > > In any event, your reading is a breaking news to me! The reason

> I

> > write this

> > > is that, I have gemini lagna and not cancer lagna sir. Even

with

> > KP

> > > anayamsa, I still have gemini as the Lagna , the confusion and

> > debate is over navamsa

> > > being either taurus or gemini. For rasi lagna, there is no

> > confusion, it IS

> > > gemini. so kindly correct that part, ofcourse that changes the

> > whole reading.

> > >

> > > I often look at your chart and wonder what outcome it has given

> you

> > so

> > > far...kindly do update.

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > >

> > > In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:21:47 P.M. India Standard Time,

> > > hbk1hbk_2100@ writes:

> > >

> > > Dear Gaurav,

> > >

> > > Here is my analysis:

> > >

> > > You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka planet

> > > Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for

> wealth

> > > because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its own

> > > nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the

> 2nd

> > > one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a

badhaka

> > > planet for your chart.

> > >

> > > At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you

> lost

> > > money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is

> > located

> > > in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra

> and

> > > mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st house

> and

> > > 12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give

> you

> > 1st

> > > house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking

> 1st,

> > > 6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and

> 1st

> > > house.

> > > At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like

> > > Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra,

> which

> > > indicates loss.

> > >

> > > In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose

> > money

> > > because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's

> > > nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which

> shows

> > > negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of

> loss.

> > > Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially

> > when

> > > it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time

> when

> > > jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > G. Singh

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > >

> > > > Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to

> > > > synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons

> > > > StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times

> > > > however much one may try, withoutshifting other

> > > > important pointers, which would shift the BT

> > > > ridiculously earlier or later.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry to butt in.

> > > > > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat,

> > stated

> > > > by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned

> > > followers.

> > > > I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

> > > > > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic,

> and

> > I

> > > > checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times,

> more

> > > often

> > > > than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good Luck

> > > > >

> > > > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > > > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna

is

> > mer-

> > > > rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu.

> So

> > per

> > > > your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to

look

> > into

> > > > the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room

> last

> > > year

> > > > with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time,

> and

> > even

> > > > that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me

> having

> > > > varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed

> it

> > > away

> > > > since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather

> ordinary

> > > > life.

> > > > >

> > > > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th

> > houses

> > > are

> > > > mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of

> > birth.

> > > Out

> > > > of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer

is

> > the

> > > > star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd.

> Venus

> > is

> > > > in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

> > > > >

> > > > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the

> > > magican

> > > > and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

> > > > >

> > > > > Gaurav

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard

> > Time,

> > > > lyrastro1@ writes:

> > > > > Dear Gaurav,

> > > > > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does

> the

> > > > sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the

> > Moon's

> > > st-

> > > > lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth

Time

> > > > correct , as per K.P.

> > > > > Are you destined to make money in the

> > > share

> > > > markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

> > > > > Also, what is the

> > > relationshipsconnections

> > > > of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

> > > > > They should signify the IInd or the XIth

> > > > or the VIth.

> > > > > Kindly inform...

> > > > > With best wishes,

> > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > >

> > > > > ----- Original Message ----

> > > > > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM

> > > > > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter

> exalted,

> > who

> > > > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many

> lacs

> > of

> > > > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why?

what

> > is

> > > the

> > > > logic here..

> > > > >

> > > > > Gaurav

> > > > > 3rd July 1979

> > > > > 6.18am

> > > > > jaipur, rajasthan

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard

> > Time,

> > > > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check

> their

> > > luck;

> > > > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock

> > market.The

> > > > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will

> > act

> > > to

> > > > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection

to

> 8

> > or

> > > > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a

> > clear

> > > KP

> > > > principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and

> > gems.

> > > For

> > > > those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not

show

> > any

> > > > gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients

> who

> > > are

> > > > making money in the market must be having strong lagna

> lord.and

> > > also

> > > > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the

> 11th.

> > As

> > > a

> > > > test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in

> the

> > > > market and test out the results.

> > > > >

> > > > > V.Ramachandran.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar

<bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > .co. in> wrote: Sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings

> fortune

> > to

> > > the

> > > > > native with respect to its house position in the natal

> > horoscope.

> > > > If

> > > > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > > > > fortunate??? //

> > > > >

> > > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,

> neither

> > is

> > > > anyone

> > > > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to

> the

> > > > source

> > > > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which

> > house

> > > it

> > > > > falls in.

> > > > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> > > pointers

> > > > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life

> and

> > > not

> > > > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some

> persons

> > are

> > > > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in

> the

> > > same,

> > > > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are

> fortunate

> > in

> > > > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> > > fortunes

> > > > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts

> the

> > > > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart

> for

> > > > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is

> after

> > all

> > > > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar

> > > > <kdbhaskar7@ ..>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused

with

> > the

> > > > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna

> will

> > > > offer

> > > > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may

cause

> > > favour

> > > > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star

> lord

> > of

> > > its

> > > > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is

ridiculous

> to

> > > say

> > > > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with

> respect

> > to

> > > > its

> > > > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be,

> then

> > > every

> > > > > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth

but

> > for

> > > the

> > > > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have

> to

> > > > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > > > +91-9910048040

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long

> of

> > > Moon -

> > > > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more

> than

> > 360

> > > > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> > > > calculate

> > > > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the

> house

> > in

> > > > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE

> > (Lucky)

> > > in

> > > > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the

fortuna

> > > > > point in the

> > > > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated

> in

> > my

> > > > > kundali ,

> > > > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > > > > time 21.38

> > > > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good Luck

> > > > > > Raichur A R

> > > > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > > > > account

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New

> Delhi

> > > > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

> > Messenger

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > > > >

> > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

> > Messenger

> > > > >

> > > > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > > > >

> > > > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good Luck

> > > > > Raichur A R

> > > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account

> > > > >

> > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Links

> > >

> > > ************************************** See what's free at

> > http://www.aol.com.

> > >

> >

>

April 23, 2007

Dear Friends,

I was perusing this morning the mails on Gaurav'Birth

details and predictions by some members.

It is clear Gaurav was stringing the members , he

was having all details from his previous consultations with

the 'Best' astrologers.Was looking for free predictions.

Regards,

Satish.

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> 3rd July 1979, 6.18am,jaipur, rajasthan, 26N55, 75E49, KPAstro 2.5-

->

> Sid Time 00-33-06, Asc Ge 25-10-08, Moon Vi 21-26-36, Moon dasa

> balance 1y-5m-0d.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , " hbk1hbk_2100 " <hbk1hbk_2100@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Gaurav,

> >

> > I used your following birth data and came up with Cancer lagna

12

> > degrees and 10 minutes. I have checked twice. Please let me know

> what

> > lagna degree you are getting.

> >

> > 3rd July 1979

> > 6.18am

> > jaipur, rajasthan

> >

> > Speaking of winning large sum of wealth, this is what I have to

> say:

> >

> > In my chart I have all planets with Ketu in 11th house and

> opposite

> > Rahu. So I can expect good results during Rahu or Ketu's

bhuktis,

> > antharas, sookshamadasas in Jupiter's mahdasas if at that time

> Rahu

> > and Ketu are transiting favorable nakshatra.

> > Right now Saturn, Jupiter are in Mercury's nakshatra and Mercury

> is a

> > badhaka planet for my chart. Also Saturn is opposing all 7

planets

> in

> > 11th house. But after July 07 Saturn will enter Ketu's nakshatra

> > during Saturn bhukti will be extremely good, and I will be in

Ketu

> > anthara during august sept.

> > Later the Jupiter - Ketu and Jupiter - Rahu periods will be the

> > interesting ones. By the way I am starting my astrology business

> in

> > August this year in California. My website will be up and

running

> in

> > July/August this year. I am just waiting for Saturn to leave

> Cancer

> > sign.

> >

> > Best wishes

> >

> > G. Singh

> >

> > , yobrevol@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste G.Singh ji,

> > >

> > > It is a pleasure to read your mail after a long time, I hope

you

> > were able

> > > to win some lottery money as you were eagerly indicating a

while

> > ago.

> > >

> > > In any event, your reading is a breaking news to me! The

reason

> I

> > write this

> > > is that, I have gemini lagna and not cancer lagna sir. Even

with

> > KP

> > > anayamsa, I still have gemini as the Lagna , the confusion and

> > debate is over navamsa

> > > being either taurus or gemini. For rasi lagna, there is no

> > confusion, it IS

> > > gemini. so kindly correct that part, ofcourse that changes

the

> > whole reading.

> > >

> > > I often look at your chart and wonder what outcome it has

given

> you

> > so

> > > far...kindly do update.

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > >

> > > In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:21:47 P.M. India Standard

Time,

> > > hbk1hbk_2100@ writes:

> > >

> > > Dear Gaurav,

> > >

> > > Here is my analysis:

> > >

> > > You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka

planet

> > > Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for

> wealth

> > > because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its

own

> > > nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the

> 2nd

> > > one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a

badhaka

> > > planet for your chart.

> > >

> > > At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you

> lost

> > > money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is

> > located

> > > in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra

> and

> > > mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st

house

> and

> > > 12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give

> you

> > 1st

> > > house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking

> 1st,

> > > 6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and

> 1st

> > > house.

> > > At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like

> > > Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra,

> which

> > > indicates loss.

> > >

> > > In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose

> > money

> > > because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's

> > > nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which

> shows

> > > negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of

> loss.

> > > Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially

> > when

> > > it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time

> when

> > > jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.

> > >

> > > Best wishes

> > >

> > > G. Singh

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > >

> > > > Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to

> > > > synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons

> > > > StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times

> > > > however much one may try, withoutshifting other

> > > > important pointers, which would shift the BT

> > > > ridiculously earlier or later.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry to butt in.

> > > > > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I

repeat,

> > stated

> > > > by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned

> > > followers.

> > > > I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

> > > > > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic,

> and

> > I

> > > > checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times,

> more

> > > often

> > > > than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

> > > > >

> > > > > Good Luck

> > > > >

> > > > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > > > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna

is

> > mer-

> > > > rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-

rahu.

> So

> > per

> > > > your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to

look

> > into

> > > > the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room

> last

> > > year

> > > > with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time,

> and

> > even

> > > > that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me

> having

> > > > varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I

brushed

> it

> > > away

> > > > since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather

> ordinary

> > > > life.

> > > > >

> > > > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th

> > houses

> > > are

> > > > mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of

> > birth.

> > > Out

> > > > of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer

is

> > the

> > > > star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd.

> Venus

> > is

> > > > in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

> > > > >

> > > > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are

the

> > > magican

> > > > and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

> > > > >

> > > > > Gaurav

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India

Standard

> > Time,

> > > > lyrastro1@ writes:

> > > > > Dear Gaurav,

> > > > > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does

> the

> > > > sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the

> > Moon's

> > > st-

> > > > lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth

Time

> > > > correct , as per K.P.

> > > > > Are you destined to make money in the

> > > share

> > > > markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

> > > > > Also, what is the

> > > relationshipsconnections

> > > > of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

> > > > > They should signify the IInd or the XIth

> > > > or the VIth.

> > > > > Kindly inform...

> > > > > With best wishes,

> > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > > >

> > > > > ----- Original Message ----

> > > > > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM

> > > > > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter

> exalted,

> > who

> > > > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many

> lacs

> > of

> > > > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why?

what

> > is

> > > the

> > > > logic here..

> > > > >

> > > > > Gaurav

> > > > > 3rd July 1979

> > > > > 6.18am

> > > > > jaipur, rajasthan

> > > > >

> > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India

Standard

> > Time,

> > > > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > > > >

> > > > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check

> their

> > > luck;

> > > > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock

> > market.The

> > > > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which

will

> > act

> > > to

> > > > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection

to

> 8

> > or

> > > > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is

a

> > clear

> > > KP

> > > > principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and

> > gems.

> > > For

> > > > those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not

show

> > any

> > > > gain from stock market. I personally think that your

Clients

> who

> > > are

> > > > making money in the market must be having strong lagna

> lord.and

> > > also

> > > > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the

> 11th.

> > As

> > > a

> > > > test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain

in

> the

> > > > market and test out the results.

> > > > >

> > > > > V.Ramachandran.

> > > > >

> > > > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar

<bhaskar_jyotish@

> > > > .co. in> wrote: Sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings

> fortune

> > to

> > > the

> > > > > native with respect to its house position in the natal

> > horoscope.

> > > > If

> > > > > this could be, then every person on this planet would

have

> > > > > fortunate??? //

> > > > >

> > > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,

> neither

> > is

> > > > anyone

> > > > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to

> the

> > > > source

> > > > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which

> > house

> > > it

> > > > > falls in.

> > > > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> > > pointers

> > > > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of

life

> and

> > > not

> > > > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some

> persons

> > are

> > > > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in

> the

> > > same,

> > > > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are

> fortunate

> > in

> > > > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> > > fortunes

> > > > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts

> the

> > > > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart

> for

> > > > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is

> after

> > all

> > > > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar

> > > > <kdbhaskar7@ ..>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused

with

> > the

> > > > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna

> will

> > > > offer

> > > > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may

cause

> > > favour

> > > > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star

> lord

> > of

> > > its

> > > > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is

ridiculous

> to

> > > say

> > > > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with

> respect

> > to

> > > > its

> > > > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be,

> then

> > > every

> > > > > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth

but

> > for

> > > the

> > > > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have

> to

> > > > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > > > +91-9910048040

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long

> of

> > > Moon -

> > > > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more

> than

> > 360

> > > > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you

can

> > > > calculate

> > > > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the

> house

> > in

> > > > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE

> > (Lucky)

> > > in

> > > > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is

found.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the

fortuna

> > > > > point in the

> > > > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated

> in

> > my

> > > > > kundali ,

> > > > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > > > > time 21.38

> > > > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good Luck

> > > > > > Raichur A R

> > > > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > > > > account

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New

> Delhi

> > > > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

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> > > > > >

> > > > >

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April 23, 2007

Dear Gaurav,

I had forgotten to mention,however, that the method I had given is valid for time digfferences of around + or -

30 minutes only...however in the instant case you mention that you personally recorded he TOB...do you remember,at what time you heard the first cry ?

I suggest you experiment on your own...you'll learn better by first hand experience in determining the correct TOB...!

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

"yobrevol" <yobrevol Sent: Sunday, 22 April, 2007 6:26:12 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste LY Rao ji,

Please know that I did try to rectify the time per your suggestion, but the time becomes drastically different that it becomes difficult to reason standard life events, that is all I am suggesting, and nothing more..I am sure the flaw lies in my learning of your concept, as you are senior guru and I am merely a dip, in any event, I will try to buy the book and attempt to learn..

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:18:40 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Are you only interested in academic discussions ? Or will you take the trouble to find out for yourself...that way you'll learn better...perhaps this is a hangover of studying through "guides"...? !

I have given you the rationale and the method, while without even trying out the method, you say you cannot or do not agree with me...which is most unfair on your part,to say the least...therefore unless,in future, you try out the method as suggested by me,and ensuring that you use K.P. Ayanamsa...there will be NO PURPOSE in pursuing futile discussions. ..for discussion sake...why don't you buy the book I've mentioned,study it carefully and then write...untill then...pl. desist from pursuing this discussion.. .

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

Raichur-a-r <raichurar >@gro ups.comSunday, 22 April, 2007 12:48:30 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Dear Shree Gaurav

Please study and understand the discussion by Shree KSK in Reader 3 page 494 under heading RECTIFICATION OF BIRTH TIME ".sEE ALSO PAGE 503 where Guruji gives the Ruling Planets method, .Here he takes only 4 RPS. DayLord,Moon starlord, Moon Sign Lord, And asc sign Lord.

These he says will be same as Sign Lord, StarLord, and Sub Lord, and Subsublord of the Lagna(the ascendent of the chart)

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Raichur ji,

thank you for your mail, I have very very high respect for mr.Rao, just that I could not tally this method of checking correct birthtime, can you suggest other methods per KP about this...

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes:

Sorry to butt in.

The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

Good Luck

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Sorry for butting-in.. .Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P.

Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

Also, what is the relationshipsconnec tions of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth.

Kindly inform...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

"yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..> wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house

position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House,

where fortuna is found.> >

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar,

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April 23, 2007

Dear Garav and Shri Raichurji,

As per K.P., and my limited experience,the planets among the RPs,and significators arrived at, those that are posited in the subs of the significators of the houses being considered for analysis, and are also untenanted, are the strongest,to deliver results...

I invite comments of all KP astrologers...

With regards,

L.Y.Rao.

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka Sent: Sunday, 22 April, 2007 4:00:06 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

dear gaurav,

i also follow the same theory mentioned by KSK

my guruji (late hasbe)told us to take star of ascendant if only 2or 3 ruling planets are

available and in that case give importance to asc.star

also i follow that if rahu/ketu are directly in RP then only i select Rahu/ketu

i dont select rahu/ketu as agents

this is my experience . the members should try this also

-sunil gondhalekarRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

Dear Shree Gaurav

Please study and understand the discussion by Shree KSK in Reader 3 page 494 under heading RECTIFICATION OF BIRTH TIME ".sEE ALSO PAGE 503 where Guruji gives the Ruling Planets method, .Here he takes only 4 RPS. DayLord,Moon starlord, Moon Sign Lord, And asc sign Lord.

These he says will be same as Sign Lord, StarLord, and Sub Lord, and Subsublord of the Lagna(the ascendent of the chart)

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Raichur ji,

thank you for your mail, I have very very high respect for mr.Rao, just that I could not tally this method of checking correct birthtime, can you suggest other methods per KP about this...

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes:

Sorry to butt in.

The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

Good Luck

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Sorry for butting-in.. .Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P.

Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

Also, what is the relationshipsconnec tions of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth.

Kindly inform...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

"yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..> wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house

position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House,

where fortuna is found.> >

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar,

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April 23, 2007

Namaste G.Singh ji,

I thought it was a mistake. I know your caliber. Anyways, do tell as you get time, and where in the west coast do you live?

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/23/2007 9:16:12 A.M. India Standard Time, hbk1hbk_2100 writes:

Hello Gaurav, I made mistake while selecting longitude latitude for Jaipur. I agree with you your lagna is Gemini as calculated by TW below. I will analyze your situation again when I get time.Take careG. Singh , "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> 3rd July 1979, 6.18am,jaipur, rajasthan, 26N55, 75E49, KPAstro 2.5-->> Sid Time 00-33-06, Asc Ge 25-10-08, Moon Vi 21-26-36, Moon dasa > balance 1y-5m-0d.> > Regards,> > tw> > > > , "hbk1hbk_2100" <hbk1hbk_2100@> > wrote:> >> > Hello Gaurav,> > > > > > I used your following birth data and came up with Cancer lagna 12 > > degrees and 10 minutes. I have checked twice. Please let me know > what > > lagna degree you are getting. > > > > 3rd July 1979> > 6.18am> > jaipur, rajasthan> > > > Speaking of winning large sum of wealth, this is what I have to > say:> > > > In my chart I have all planets with Ketu in 11th house and > opposite > > Rahu. So I can expect good results during Rahu or Ketu's bhuktis, > > antharas, sookshamadasas in Jupiter's mahdasas if at that time > Rahu > > and Ketu are transiting favorable nakshatra. > > Right now Saturn, Jupiter are in Mercury's nakshatra and Mercury > is a > > badhaka planet for my chart. Also Saturn is opposing all 7 planets > in > > 11th house. But after July 07 Saturn will enter Ketu's nakshatra > > during Saturn bhukti will be extremely good, and I will be in Ketu > > anthara during august sept. > > Later the Jupiter - Ketu and Jupiter - Rahu periods will be the > > interesting ones. By the way I am starting my astrology business > in > > August this year in California. My website will be up and running > in > > July/August this year. I am just waiting for Saturn to leave > Cancer > > sign.> > > > Best wishes> > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > , yobrevol@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > Namaste G.Singh ji,> > > > > > It is a pleasure to read your mail after a long time, I hope you > > were able > > > to win some lottery money as you were eagerly indicating a while > > ago. > > > > > > In any event, your reading is a breaking news to me! The reason > I > > write this > > > is that, I have gemini lagna and not cancer lagna sir. Even with > > KP > > > anayamsa, I still have gemini as the Lagna , the confusion and > > debate is over navamsa > > > being either taurus or gemini. For rasi lagna, there is no > > confusion, it IS > > > gemini. so kindly correct that part, ofcourse that changes the > > whole reading. > > > > > > I often look at your chart and wonder what outcome it has given > you > > so > > > far...kindly do update.> > > > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:21:47 P.M. India Standard Time, > > > hbk1hbk_2100@ writes:> > > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > > > > Here is my analysis:> > > > > > You lagna lord moon is in its own nakshatra and badhaka planet > > > Venus's sub. I will not consider your lagna lord strong for > wealth > > > because it is strongly representing 1st house being in its own > > > nakshatra. As you know 1st house negates the dhana house, the > 2nd > > > one. Also your lagna lord moon is in the sub of Venus a badhaka > > > planet for your chart.> > > > > > At present you are going through JUP/JUP/VEN period when you > lost > > > money. Jupiter in your chart rules 6th and 9th house and is > > located > > > in 1st house. Jupiter is in the 12th lord Mercury's nakshatra > and > > > mercury's sub. Mercury is again in 1st house linking 1st house > and > > > 12th house. So jupiter being in mercury's nakshatra will give > you > > 1st > > > house, 12th house, and 3rd house results. Also it is linking > 1st, > > > 6th, 9th house represented by Jupiter to your 12th house and > 1st > > > house. > > > At present when you lost money most of the heavy planets like > > > Jupiter, Saturn are transitng 12th lord mercury's nakshatra, > which > > > indicates loss. > > > > > > In my opinion in Jupiter mahadasha you will continue to loose > > money > > > because in your natal chart Jupiter is in 12th lord Mercury's > > > nakshatra and Mercury's sub. Mercury is in 1st house which > shows > > > negation of 2nd house, and mercury represents 12th house of > loss.> > > Jupiter although exalted will give you evil results especially > > when > > > it will transit mercury's nakshatra. So be careful next time > when > > > jupiter transits mercury's nakshatra during Jupiter mahadasha.> > > > > > Best wishes> > > > > > G. Singh> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Sir,> > > > > > > > Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to> > > > synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons > > > > StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times> > > > however much one may try, withoutshifting other> > > > important pointers, which would shift the BT > > > > ridiculously earlier or later. > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Sorry to butt in.> > > > > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, > > stated > > > > by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned > > > followers. > > > > I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.> > > > > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, > and > > I > > > > checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, > more > > > often > > > > than not, didi not satisfy this rule.> > > > > > > > > > Good Luck> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yobrevol@ wrote:> > > > > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,> > > > > > > > > > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is > > mer-> > > > rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. > So > > per > > > > your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look > > into > > > > the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room > last > > > year > > > > with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, > and > > even > > > > that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it. > > > > > > > > > > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me > having > > > > varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed > it > > > away > > > > since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather > ordinary > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th > > houses > > > are > > > > mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of > > birth. > > > Out > > > > of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is > > the > > > > star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. > Venus > > is > > > > in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th. > > > > > > > > > > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the > > > magican > > > > and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks. > > > > > > > > > > Gaurav> > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard > > Time, > > > > lyrastro1@ writes:> > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > > > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does > the > > > > sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the > > Moon's > > > st-> > > > lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time > > > > correct , as per K.P.> > > > > Are you destined to make money in the > > > share > > > > markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...> > > > > Also, what is the > > > relationshipsconnections > > > > of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?> > > > > They should signify the IInd or the XIth > > > > or the VIth.> > > > > Kindly inform...> > > > > With best wishes,> > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> > > > > "yobrevol@" <yobrevol@>> > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM> > > > > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects> > > > > > > > > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter > exalted, > > who > > > > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many > lacs > > of > > > > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what > > is > > > the > > > > logic here..> > > > > > > > > > Gaurav> > > > > 3rd July 1979> > > > > 6.18am> > > > > jaipur, rajasthan> > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard > > Time, > > > > padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:> > > > > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > > > > > > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check > their > > > luck; > > > > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock > > market.The > > > > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will > > act > > > to > > > > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to > 8 > > or > > > > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a > > clear > > > KP > > > > principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and > > gems. > > > For > > > > those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show > > any > > > > gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients > who > > > are > > > > making money in the market must be having strong lagna > lord.and > > > also > > > > there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the > 11th. > > As > > > a > > > > test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in > the > > > > market and test out the results.> > > > > > > > > > V.Ramachandran.> > > > > > > > > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > .co. in> wrote: Sir,> > > > > > > > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings > fortune > > to > > > the > > > > > native with respect to its house position in the natal > > horoscope. > > > > If > > > > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > > > > > fortunate??? //> > > > > > > > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, > neither > > is > > > > anyone> > > > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to > the > > > > source > > > > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which > > house > > > it > > > > > falls in.> > > > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for > > > pointers > > > > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life > and > > > not > > > > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some > persons > > are > > > > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in > the > > > same, > > > > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are > fortunate > > in > > > > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their > > > fortunes > > > > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts > the > > > > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > > > > > > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart > for> > > > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is > after > > all> > > > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar > > > > <kdbhaskar7@ ..> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with > > the > > > > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna > will > > > > offer > > > > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause > > > favour > > > > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star > lord > > of > > > its > > > > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous > to > > > say > > > > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with > respect > > to > > > > its > > > > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, > then > > > every > > > > > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > > > > > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but > > for > > > the > > > > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have > to > > > > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > > > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > > > > D K Bhaskar> > > > > > +91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chagantikiran> > > > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long > of > > > Moon - > > > > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > > > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more > than > > 360 > > > > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can > > > > calculate > > > > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the > house > > in > > > > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE > > (Lucky) > > > in > > > > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > > > > > point in the > > > > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated > in > > my > > > > > kundali ,> > > > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > > > > > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > > > > > time 21.38> > > > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > > > > Raichur A R > > > > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > > > > > account > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > > > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > D K Bhaskar> > > > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. 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April 24, 2007

Namaste Rao ji,

Again, I wish to inform the members that I am not intending to dis-respect anyone, or to make use of your services in an improper fashion.

Now, I admit that 9.59pm is the time the baby came out (1st breadth), but the cry would be 9.59.30pm or 10pm at max, you see. I have attempted to follow your suggested rule and failed. You would also agree respected sir, that in such case where I was standing with a stop watch, the TOB can not be more than +-few minutes at max..so that is why I am suggesting only my experiences, after attempting this on my chart, and 2 of my family member chart, and 3 famous personalities.

In any event, these are only my personal experiences, and could be the fault is in my learning somewhere.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/23/2007 9:55:25 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 writes:

Dear Gaurav,

I had forgotten to mention,however, that the method I had given is valid for time digfferences of around + or -

30 minutes only...however in the instant case you mention that you personally recorded he TOB...do you remember,at what time you heard the first cry ?

I suggest you experiment on your own...you'll learn better by first hand experience in determining the correct TOB...!

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

"yobrevol" <yobrevol Sent: Sunday, 22 April, 2007 6:26:12 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste LY Rao ji,

Please know that I did try to rectify the time per your suggestion, but the time becomes drastically different that it becomes difficult to reason standard life events, that is all I am suggesting, and nothing more..I am sure the flaw lies in my learning of your concept, as you are senior guru and I am merely a dip, in any event, I will try to buy the book and attempt to learn..

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/22/2007 3:18:40 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Are you only interested in academic discussions ? Or will you take the trouble to find out for yourself...that way you'll learn better...perhaps this is a hangover of studying through "guides"...? !

I have given you the rationale and the method, while without even trying out the method, you say you cannot or do not agree with me...which is most unfair on your part,to say the least...therefore unless,in future, you try out the method as suggested by me,and ensuring that you use K.P. Ayanamsa...there will be NO PURPOSE in pursuing futile discussions. ..for discussion sake...why don't you buy the book I've mentioned,study it carefully and then write...untill then...pl. desist from pursuing this discussion.. .

Yours sincerely,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

Raichur-a-r <raichurar >@gro ups.comSunday, 22 April, 2007 12:48:30 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Dear Shree Gaurav

Please study and understand the discussion by Shree KSK in Reader 3 page 494 under heading RECTIFICATION OF BIRTH TIME ".sEE ALSO PAGE 503 where Guruji gives the Ruling Planets method, .Here he takes only 4 RPS. DayLord,Moon starlord, Moon Sign Lord, And asc sign Lord.

These he says will be same as Sign Lord, StarLord, and Sub Lord, and Subsublord of the Lagna(the ascendent of the chart)

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Raichur ji,

thank you for your mail, I have very very high respect for mr.Rao, just that I could not tally this method of checking correct birthtime, can you suggest other methods per KP about this...

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes:

Sorry to butt in.

The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

Good Luck

yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Sorry for butting-in.. .Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P.

Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

Also, what is the relationshipsconnec tions of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth.

Kindly inform...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

"yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..> wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> >

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