Fortuna and its effects

April 8, 2007

-dear ramesh,

please send your coplete horoscope for answering our query,which is

must for prediction.

with regards

gianchand1

jyotish vachspati

April 8, 2007

Dear Ramesh Fortuna is NOT a planet. It is only a mathematical point in the chart. Generally, it is suppossed to favour the house matter where it falls. It has no stars or subs, in the real sense. It does not own any house, like a planet. Ramesh Tendulkar <ram_t_1968 wrote: Hi Learned Members(1) Fo 9(A) 5(B) 1©(2) Fo 9(A) 7(B) 4, 7©(A) - Planets in Occupant's stars(B) - Occupant of house© - Planets in Owner's stars(D) - House

OwnerIn the above, how does Fortuna give results and in what matters of thenatives?Is there a table of benefits of the houses and the Fortuna resultsthat someone can share?RegardsRameshGood LuckRaichur A RBombay Tel 2506 2609Do

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April 11, 2007

Its true that fortuna is not a planet but it is a sensitive point calculated mathematically and behaves like Saham as in vedic astrology. Rahu and Ketu have also not been alloted any sign in the zodiac.We can arrive to know the Sign lord, star lord, sub lord, SSL and so on. For predictive use, ponder on the Sub sub Lord of fortuna and its potential. If it is connected to the favorable houses (1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 11) through its star lord, it promises a very good and successful life in general, if Sub of SSL of fortuna supports.Thanks & regardsD K Bhaskar9910048040Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Ramesh Fortuna is NOT a planet. It is only a mathematical point in the chart. Generally, it is suppossed to favour the house matter where it falls. It has no stars or subs, in the real sense. It does not own any house, like a planet. Ramesh Tendulkar <ram_t_1968 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hi Learned Members(1) Fo 9(A) 5(B) 1©(2) Fo 9(A) 7(B) 4, 7©(A) - Planets in Occupant's stars(B) - Occupant of house© - Planets in Owner's stars(D) - House OwnerIn the above, how does Fortuna give results and in what matters of thenatives?Is there a table of benefits of

the houses and the Fortuna resultsthat someone can share?RegardsRameshGood LuckRaichur A RBombay Tel 2506 2609Do not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing.

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April 13, 2007

Dear Mr.Bhaskar,

Are you the same Mr.D.K.Bhaskar , a student of Mr.A.R.Balan, and one who first expounded the importance of the sub-sub and sub-sub-sub...?

Kindly confirm,

I've been searching for your correct e-mail address...even Mr.Madhu Nair has been looking for your address ...

With kind regards,

L.Y.Rao.

Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 Sent: Friday, 13 April, 2007 1:29:24 AMRe: Fortuna and its effects

Its true that fortuna is not a planet but it is a sensitive point calculated mathematically and behaves like Saham as in vedic astrology. Rahu and Ketu have also not been alloted any sign in the zodiac.We can arrive to know the Sign lord, star lord, sub lord, SSL and so on. For predictive use, ponder on the Sub sub Lord of fortuna and its potential. If it is connected to the favorable houses (1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 11) through its star lord, it promises a very good and successful life in general, if Sub of SSL of fortuna supports.Thanks & regardsD K Bhaskar9910048040Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote:

Dear Ramesh

Fortuna is NOT a planet. It is only a mathematical point in the chart. Generally, it is suppossed to favour the house matter where it falls.

It has no stars or subs, in the real sense. It does not own any house, like a planet.

Ramesh Tendulkar <ram_t_1968 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Hi Learned Members(1) Fo 9(A) 5(B) 1©(2) Fo 9(A) 7(B) 4, 7©(A) - Planets in Occupant's stars(B) - Occupant of house© - Planets in Owner's stars(D) - House OwnerIn the above, how does Fortuna give results and in what matters of thenatives?Is there a table of benefits of the houses and the Fortuna resultsthat someone can share?RegardsRameshGood LuckRaichur A RBombay Tel 2506 2609Do not use anant_1608 @.cm Iam closing that account

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April 14, 2007

Dear All,As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.Thanks & RegardsD K Bhaskar+91-9910048040Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Chagantikiran The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC) the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found. chagantikiran <chagantikiran > wrote: Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,and what are its effects,on my career and income .MY Dob 31/12/1976time 21.38place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Thanks & Regards,D K BhaskarShanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New DelhiMob.: 91-9910048040

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April 15, 2007

Sir,

//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the

native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If

this could be, then every person on this planet would have

fortunate???//

Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone

unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source

wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it

falls in.

This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers

for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not

all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are

Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same,

but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes

coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all

derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer

favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour

or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its

Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say

that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its

house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every

person on this planet would have fortunate???

>

> The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the

persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

>

> Thanks & Regards

> D K Bhaskar

> +91-9910048040

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

> Dear Chagantikiran

> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon -

Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360

then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate

the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in

your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in

the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

>

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:

> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

point in the

> group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

kundali ,

> and what are its effects,on my career and income .

>

> MY Dob 31/12/1976

> time 21.38

> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

Good Luck

> Raichur A R

> Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

account

>

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check out new cars at Autos.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> D K Bhaskar

> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> Mob.: 91-9910048040

>

> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

>

April 15, 2007

Dear D K Bhaskar,

Applying your definition of Punya or Fortune Saham and partial

cuspal interlinks saying, could you kindly explain us why Camilla

Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) is fortunate for

bed comfort.

As per KP it is because of Fortuna occupation in 12th.

Regards,

tw

, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord

of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous

to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect

to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

every person on this planet would have fortunate???

>

> The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the

persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

>

> Thanks & Regards

> D K Bhaskar

> +91-9910048040

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar

wrote:

> Dear Chagantikiran

> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon -

Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360

then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate

the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in

your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in

the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

>

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:

> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

point in the

> group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

kundali ,

> and what are its effects,on my career and income .

>

> MY Dob 31/12/1976

> time 21.38

> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

Good Luck

> Raichur A R

> Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

account

>

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check out new cars at Autos.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> D K Bhaskar

> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> Mob.: 91-9910048040

>

> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

>

April 15, 2007

Dear bhasker, kindly tell from where you have learnt this.KP books don't mention this. Fortuna refers to the way in which one will be lucky in makang mony. regards sujataDharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: Dear All,As I

have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise

have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.Thanks & RegardsD K Bhaskar+91-9910048040Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Chagantikiran The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC) the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then

place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found. chagantikiran <chagantikiran > wrote: Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,and what are its effects,on my career and income .MY Dob 31/12/1976time 21.38place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Thanks & Regards,D K BhaskarShanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New DelhiMob.: 91-9910048040 Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

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April 16, 2007

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Sir,

//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the

native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If

this could be, then every person on this planet would have

fortunate???//

Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone

unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source

wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it

falls in.

This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers

for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not

all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are

Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same,

but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes

coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all

derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer

favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour

or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its

Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say

that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its

house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every

person on this planet would have fortunate???

>

> The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the

persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

>

> Thanks & Regards

> D K Bhaskar

> +91-9910048040

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

> Dear Chagantikiran

> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon -

Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360

then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate

the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in

your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in

the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

>

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:

> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

point in the

> group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

kundali ,

> and what are its effects,on my career and income .

>

> MY Dob 31/12/1976

> time 21.38

> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

>

> Good Luck

> Raichur A R

> Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

account

>

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check out new cars at Autos.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

> D K Bhaskar

> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> Mob.: 91-9910048040

>

> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

>

April 16, 2007

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???//Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar. , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> >

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger>

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April 16, 2007

Dear Sujata,If you don't mind; could you please tell me from where respected (Late) Shri K. S. K. learnt so that he written so many books. Is it always necessary that what is going to be revealed, should have to be pre casted by someone else. If something our Guruji forgot to tell us or haven't much knowledge or haven't time to complete the research or haven't tested the authenticity... is the last word, beyond which we should never try to explore the opportunities.The fortuna can be taken equal to the Saham, but Greek astrologers have done much research on this. I also done some

research work and have learnt from them.I think now it is clear.Thanks & RegardsD K Bhaskar91-9910048040sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: Dear bhasker, kindly tell from where you have learnt this. KP books don't mention this. Fortuna refers to the way in which one will be lucky in makang mony. regards sujataDharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear All,As I have already mentioned that do not get

confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their

Fortuna by formula:Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.Thanks & RegardsD K Bhaskar+91-9910048040Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Chagantikiran The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC) the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place

it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found. chagantikiran <chagantikiran > wrote: Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,and what are its effects,on my career and income .MY Dob 31/12/1976time 21.38place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Thanks & Regards,D K BhaskarShanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New DelhiMob.: 91-9910048040 Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Thanks & Regards,D K BhaskarShanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New DelhiMob.: 91-9910048040

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April 16, 2007

Dear sir,I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but only define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members and Astro scholar may

ponder.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Ex I, New Delhi Mob: 91-9910048040Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir, //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???// Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in. This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are

Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology. regards, Bhaskar. , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: > > Dear All, > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental

according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula: > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc. > > > Thanks & Regards > D K Bhaskar > +91-9910048040 > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC) > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360

then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found. > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote: > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali , > and what are its effects,on my career and income . > > MY Dob 31/12/1976 > time 21.38 > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP) > > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > >

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Dear Dharmendra Kumar Please forgive me for intruding in your correspondace with Sujata. KSK like all his colleagues studied the classical Vedic Literature, but not having found answers to some querries, especially twins, he did a lot of research, and on the basis of this research expounded his concept of sub-lords. His original books were only in 2 volumes. These were then expanded. He was always in favour of research, as that was the basis of his own method. So you are free to carry out research, and if you find some rules, which give reliable results at least in 90 percent of the cases, you could publish it, and persons convinced of your methods, and findings will accept it. One has done that in case of multiple marriages. The file is in the file section of the group. It found a method which gives better results than what KSK has given.(this was also tested). In such a case, on

open-minded person would apply the new rule proposed. Good Luck Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: Dear Sujata,If you don't mind; could you please tell me from where respected (Late) Shri K. S. K. learnt so that he written so many books. Is it always necessary that what is

going to be revealed, should have to be pre casted by someone else. If something our Guruji forgot to tell us or haven't much knowledge or haven't time to complete the research or haven't tested the authenticity... is the last word, beyond which we should never try to explore the opportunities.The fortuna can be taken equal to the Saham, but Greek astrologers have done much research on this. I also done some research work and have learnt from them.I think now it is clear.Thanks & RegardsD K Bhaskar91-9910048040sujata das <sujatadash1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear bhasker, kindly tell from where you have learnt this. KP books don't mention this. Fortuna refers to the way in which one will be lucky in makang mony. regards sujataDharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear All,As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.Thanks & RegardsD K Bhaskar+91-9910048040Raichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Chagantikiran The formula for calculating positon of

Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC) the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found. chagantikiran <chagantikiran > wrote: Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,and what are its effects,on my career and income .MY Dob 31/12/1976time 21.38place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)Good Luck Raichur A

R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Thanks & Regards,D K BhaskarShanti Kunj, 60,

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Dear Gaurav ji, You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per runing Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong you never gain . kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes. regards Kanak Bosmiayobrevol wrote: Namaste

Ramachandran ji, I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here.. Gaurav 3rd July 1979 6.18am jaipur, rajasthan In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes: Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP

principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran. On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???//Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in

the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar. , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would

have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn.

Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> See what's free at AOL.com. "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC)

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dear kanakji,Does a dasa lord set the parameters within which the bhukti,antara,sookshma lords give their results or is antra lord capable of giving opposite results.e.g.if dasa lord promises gain through speculation,can a bhukti wipe out all gains?I have not received a password for accessing kp-e-zine.regards,sujataKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Gaurav ji, You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition is about Lagna lord but

native get result good or bad as per runing Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong you never gain . kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes. regards Kanak Bosmiayobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Namaste Ramachandran ji, I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here.. Gaurav 3rd July 1979 6.18am jaipur, rajasthan In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes: Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the

market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran. On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???//Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls

in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar. , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7

wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place

mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> See what's free at AOL.com. "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos.

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Dear D K Bhaskar,

Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla

Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in

12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.

Regards,

tw

, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7

wrote:

>

> Dear sir,

>

> I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to

its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through

the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by

Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart

changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to

changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the

Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the

cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be

differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.

>

> Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few

lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even

Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but only

define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as

possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in

delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga

Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.

>

> The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and

1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same

house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are

fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members

and Astro scholar may ponder.

>

> Thanks & Regards

> D K Bhaskar

> South Ex I, New Delhi

> Mob: 91-9910048040

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote: Sir,

>

> //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to

the

> native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope.

If

> this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> fortunate???//

>

> Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is

anyone

> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

source

> wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house

it

> falls in.

> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

pointers

> for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

not

> all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are

> Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

same,

> but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

> having a good younger brother,while others may have their

fortunes

> coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

>

> Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all

> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

> word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

offer

> favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

favour

> or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of

its

> Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

say

> that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to

its

> house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

every

> person on this planet would have fortunate???

> >

> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for

the

> persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards

> > D K Bhaskar

> > +91-9910048040

> >

> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

wrote:

> > Dear Chagantikiran

> > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

Moon -

> Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than

360

> then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

calculate

> the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in

> your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky)

in

> the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> >

> > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:

> > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the

fortuna

> point in the

> > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

> kundali ,

> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> >

> > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > time 21.38

> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> >

> > Good Luck

> > Raichur A R

> > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> account

> >

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check out new cars at Autos.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > D K Bhaskar

> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> >

> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> >

> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

>

April 17, 2007

Namaste Kanak Ji,

I know what you are saying, but the dasa is also significator of 2nd house, star lord is also 2nd house significator and LL and Sub-lord etc...anyways, perhaps there is some hidden good there, as these loses dont matter much to me at my current position ( i mean to say I am not in loan of debt because of this, this loss is like playing casino and loosing, its ok for entertainment purposes )

I did want to draw attention to the finer points, that was my goal about Strong LL and dasa bkhuti etc..

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/18/2007 12:16:45 A.M. India Standard Time, kdbhaskar7 writes:

Dear All,There is a golden principle in astrology that an event happens only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in KP system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations of planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to the its exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the lagna who channelise the energy apportioned to it through different cusps. It is a fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than the whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in his horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this event take place...?It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose during the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for the event. A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the ascendant, otherwise it would result ''null''.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Extn. part I, New DelhiMob: +91-9910048040Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:

Dear Gaurav ji,

You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per runing Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong you never gain .

kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes.

regards

Kanak Bosmiayobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???//Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar. , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> >

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger>

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April 17, 2007

Dear Tin WEin ji and K.D.Bhashkar ji, Punya saham change rasi each 1Hrs 30 Mnt to 2 Hrs. please chek it. same like lagna. regards Kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar,Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.Regards,tw , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear sir,> > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.> > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even Kalamsa do not create a division

or a part or a separation but only define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.> > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members and Astro scholar may ponder.> > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> South Ex I, New Delhi > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir,> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the

natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > fortunate???//> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > falls in.> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. >

> Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its > house position in the natal

horoscope. If this could be, then every > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > +91-9910048040> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > Dear Chagantikiran> > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > your chart. The General

Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > point in the > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > kundali ,> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > time 21.38> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > account > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?>

> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > D K Bhaskar> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger>"A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC)

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April 17, 2007

Sir,

//> There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either > through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth.//

Not necessarily has the Lagna lord to be strong to create

wealth. Other considerations like Maha Dasha and

cuspal results of the Cusp in consideration also

do matter. There is no compulsion for the Lagna Lord to

come in picture always, to create wealth.

// If the > Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. //

Connection with 8 and 12 Lords also do produce wealth.

In case of Dowries, Gratuity,Accident Insurance,treasures etc.

and Long term Investments for both these houses

respectively. We can further elaborate. But If You are just

talking of 1st and 8th house connection only, and that Dasha only running, then this is basic knowledge that it would create health probems rather than Wealth.

// This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our> attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even > the horary will not show any gain from stock market.//

I have not started any thread on Fortuna or Gems. Just

replying. I would not consider this a deviation too, cause

Fortuna is there in the Readers, if one reads properly.

Gems is also part of astrology and by discussing these

does not mean deviation. You should put this

suggestion to the querists and those who started this thread.

If Shri KrishnaMurthyjis interest for Placidus house division

in Western astrology would have been considered as deviations,

by his contemporaries and he not allowed to talk, then we or

this Group would not have been present over here.

Anyway personally I have not started this thread I repeat.

// I personally think that > your Clients who are making money in

the market must be having strong lagna > lord...........??

Not necessarily.

//..............and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of

5th with the > 11th. //

This is understood and common sense..............

//As a test, you

predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the> market and test out the results. //

Sorry I cannot practise on unsuspecting clients

and make them loose their hard earned money.

Would anyone here take a ride on a lame

horse ? Or try to ? When he has better horses

to ride which are resulting in good speeds and

comfortable journeys. Do not mix Natal Charts

with horary. At times Natal would not show the

intensity of a disease but the Horary would

certainly. Lagna Lord is important but again do

not mix it with every aspect of life. It is well

understood that ultimately the Owner

of the Chart via the Lagna Lord is going

to acquire the results whether happiness or

sufferings, but direct participation

as you mentioned above is not mandatory.

These are not blind Charts but real people and

Real money involved so no gimmicks or

assumptions or unnecessary connections can be

involved or time wasted over discussing these. Its

working fine for me, I just presented what I

experienced . One may take it or leave it.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, "Padma Ramachandran" <padma.ramachandran wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar,> > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either> through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must> be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the> Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will> produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our> attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even> the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that> your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna> lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the> 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the> market and test out the results.> > V.Ramachandran.> > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> >> > Sir,> >> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the> > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If> > this could be, then every person on this planet would have> > fortunate???//> >> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source> > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it> > falls in.> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers> > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not> > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are> > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same,> > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in> > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes> > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the> > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.> >> > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> >> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> >> > <%40>,> > Dharmendra Kumar kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the> > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer> > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour> > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its> > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say> > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its> > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every> > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > >> > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the> > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to> > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > >> > >> > > Thanks & Regards> > > D K Bhaskar> > > +91-9910048040> > >> > >> > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote:> > > Dear Chagantikiran> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon -> > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360> > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate> > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in> > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in> > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > >> > >> > > chagantikiran chagantikiran@ wrote:> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna> > point in the> > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my> > kundali ,> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > >> > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > > time 21.38> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Good Luck> > > Raichur A R> > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609> > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that> > account> > >> > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > Check out new cars at Autos.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Thanks & Regards,> > > D K Bhaskar> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> > >> >> > > >>

April 17, 2007

Dear Kanak,

You're right its moving along with lagna and what I'm saying is

changing position in cusp not in rasi.

Regards,

tw

, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

>

> Dear Tin WEin ji and K.D.Bhashkar ji,

> Punya saham change rasi each 1Hrs 30 Mnt to 2 Hrs. please chek

it. same like lagna.

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear D K Bhaskar,

>

> Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla

> Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in

> 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear sir,

> >

> > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due

to

> its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap

through

> the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by

> Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart

> changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to

> changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to

the

> Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so

the

> cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be

> differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.

> >

> > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few

> lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even

> Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but

only

> define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as

> possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in

> delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga

> Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.

> >

> > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and

> 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same

> house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born

are

> fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned

members

> and Astro scholar may ponder.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards

> > D K Bhaskar

> > South Ex I, New Delhi

> > Mob: 91-9910048040

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote: Sir,

> >

> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to

> the

> > native with respect to its house position in the natal

horoscope.

> If

> > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > fortunate???//

> >

> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is

> anyone

> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

> source

> > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house

> it

> > falls in.

> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> pointers

> > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

> not

> > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons

are

> > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

> same,

> > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

> > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> fortunes

> > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> >

> > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all

> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Dharmendra Kumar

<kdbhaskar7@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

> > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

> offer

> > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

> favour

> > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of

> its

> > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

> say

> > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to

> its

> > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

> every

> > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > >

> > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for

> the

> > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > +91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

> wrote:

> > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

> Moon -

> > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than

> 360

> > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> calculate

> > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house

in

> > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky)

> in

> > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > >

> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:

> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the

> fortuna

> > point in the

> > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

> > kundali ,

> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > >

> > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > time 21.38

> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > >

> > > Good Luck

> > > Raichur A R

> > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > account

> > >

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> > >

> >

> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> >

" A person should not be too honest.

> Straight trees are cut first

> And Honest people are screwed first. "

> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC

75 BC)

>

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

April 17, 2007

Dear All,There is a golden principle in astrology that an event happens only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in KP system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations of planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to the its exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the lagna who

channelise the energy apportioned to it through different cusps. It is a fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than the whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in his horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this event take place...?It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose during the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for the event. A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the ascendant, otherwise it would result

''null''.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Extn. part I, New DelhiMob: +91-9910048040Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Gaurav ji, You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per runing Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong you never gain . kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes. regards Kanak Bosmiayobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Namaste Ramachandran ji, I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of

rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here.. Gaurav 3rd July 1979 6.18am jaipur, rajasthan In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes: Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your

Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran. On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???//Nobody

in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar. , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the

> group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > Check out what you're

missing if you're not on Messenger> See what's free at AOL.com. "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And

Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos.

Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

April 17, 2007

Dear tw,You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA can never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.Learned members can verify it.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Ex I, New Delhi Mob: 91-9910048040tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar, Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18. Regards, tw , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: > > Dear sir, > > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the

cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts. > > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but only define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion. > > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members and Astro scholar may ponder. > > Thanks &

Regards > D K Bhaskar > South Ex I, New Delhi > Mob: 91-9910048040 > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir, > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > fortunate???// > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > falls in. > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > all

which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get

confused with the > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > person on this planet would have fortunate??? > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > calculate their Fortuna by formula: > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > D K Bhaskar > > +91-9910048040

> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > Dear Chagantikiran > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - > Long of sun +Long of ASC) > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found. > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote: > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > point in the > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > kundali

, > > and what are its effects,on my career and income . > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976 > > time 21.38 > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > account > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > D K Bhaskar > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi > > Mob.: 91-9910048040 > > > >

> > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > Thanks & Regards,D K BhaskarShanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New DelhiMob.: 91-9910048040

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April 17, 2007

Sir,

Honestly speaking ,and you must believe me, I never

check the Natal Charts every time, when I check for

the stock picks for the clients, and even if I have

checked them in the past, I naturally do not

remember them at the time when I study the Horary

Chart.I repeat, I just check the 5th Cusp SubLord

and the MahaDasha running in the Prashna Chart

and nothing else. Uptil now God has

favoured me.

Whenever I am not doing Horary, and just reading

the Natal Chart and if native asks about Speculation

prospects then certainly I see the same points

and also when the Dasha is favourable for the

profits in Share Markets, and which sector

one should go for predominantly as per ones Chart

and Dasha.

I have uptil now never connected the Lagna lord,

with the 5th or 11th, neither checked whether

strong or weak, if one asks me about ones strength

in share market. I repeat I only check the 5th Cuspal

Sub Lord and its relation with the wealth giving

houses, and the MahaDasha Planet and its relation

with the wealth giving houses at the time when

one puts his query to me, either in Prashna Chart

or in Horary Chart.

Now whether this is right or wrong, God knows and the

Experts of Kp knows, as long as its giving good results

to me and my same clients keep coming to me, it does

not matter.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Sir,

> //> There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their

luck;

> either > through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The

> Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act

to

> give you wealth.// Not necessarily has the Lagna lord to be

strong to

> create wealth. Other considerations like Maha Dasha and cuspal

results

> of the Cusp in consideration also do matter. There is no compulsion

for

> the Lagna Lord to come in picture always, to create wealth. //

If

> the > Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of

> gimmicks will produce any wealth. // Connection with 8 and 12

Lords

> also do produce wealth. In case of Dowries, Gratuity,Accident

> Insurance,treasures etc. and Long term Investments for both these

houses

> respectively. We can further elaborate. But If You are just talking

of

> 1st and 8th house connection only, and that Dasha only running, then

> this is basic knowledge that it would create health probems rather

than

> Wealth. // This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our

> > attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna

lord,

> even > the horary will not show any gain from stock market.// I

have

> not started any thread on Fortuna or Gems. Just replying. I would

not

> consider this a deviation too, cause Fortuna is there in the

Readers, if

> one reads properly. Gems is also part of astrology and by discussing

> these does not mean deviation. You should put this suggestion to

the

> querists and those who started this thread. If Shri KrishnaMurthyjis

> interest for Placidus house division in Western astrology would have

> been considered as deviations, by his contemporaries and he not

allowed

> to talk, then we or this Group would not have been present over

here.

> Anyway personally I have not started this thread I repeat. // I

> personally think that > your Clients who are making money in the

market

> must be having strong lagna > lord...........?? Not necessarily.

> //..............and also there must be a sure sign of involvement

of

> 5th with the > 11th. // This is understood and common

> sense.............. //As a test, you predict for a chart with

weak

> lagna lord a gain in the

> > market and test out the results. // Sorry I cannot practise on

> unsuspecting clients and make them loose their hard earned money.

Would

> anyone here take a ride on a lame horse ? Or try to ? When he has

better

> horses to ride which are resulting in good speeds and comfortable

> journeys. Do not mix Natal Charts with horary. At times Natal would

not

> show the intensity of a disease but the Horary would certainly.

Lagna

> Lord is important but again do not mix it with every aspect of

life. It

> is well understood that ultimately the Owner of the Chart via the

Lagna

> Lord is going to acquire the results whether happiness or

sufferings,

> but direct participation as you mentioned above is not mandatory.

> These are not blind Charts but real people and Real money involved

so

> no gimmicks or assumptions or unnecessary connections can be

involved or

> time wasted over discussing these. Its working fine for me, I just

> presented what I experienced . One may take it or leave it.

regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , " Padma Ramachandran "

> <padma.ramachandran@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar,

> >

> > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck;

> either

> > through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna

Lord

> must

> > be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you

wealth.

> If the

> > Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of

gimmicks

> will

> > produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not

deviate

> our

> > attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna

lord,

> even

> > the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally

> think that

> > your Clients who are making money in the market must be having

strong

> lagna

> > lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th

with the

> > 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a

gain

> in the

> > market and test out the results.

> >

> > V.Ramachandran.

> >

> > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to

the

> > > native with respect to its house position in the natal

horoscope. If

> > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > > fortunate???//

> > >

> > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is

> anyone

> > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

source

> > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house

it

> > > falls in.

> > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

pointers

> > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

not

> > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons

are

> > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

same,

> > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

> > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

fortunes

> > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> > >

> > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after

all

> > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > <%

40>,

> > > Dharmendra Kumar kdbhaskar7@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

> > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

offer

> > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

favour

> > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of

its

> > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

say

> > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect

to its

> > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

every

> > > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > > >

> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for

the

> > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > +91-9910048040

> > > >

> > > > Raichur-a-r raichurar@ wrote:

> > > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

Moon -

> > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than

360

> > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

calculate

> > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house

in

> > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky)

in

> > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > > >

> > > > chagantikiran chagantikiran@ wrote:

> > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

> > > point in the

> > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

> > > kundali ,

> > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > > >

> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > > time 21.38

> > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > > >

> > > > Good Luck

> > > > Raichur A R

> > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > > account

> > > >

> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > > >

> > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 17, 2007

Dear Friends,

May i share my little understanding on the subject?

Fortuna and paras Fortuna are two words in currency.

Fortuna is akin to Punya Saham( PS) that is why There is some misunderstanding. PS has different formula for day and night .Moon – Sun + AsC =Degree,Minutes Seconds This point is called Punya Saham for day whereas for Night Subtrahend and minutrahend are reversed, (so formula becomes Sun-Moon+ASC).Moreover there are two riders attached one is sekata and other is when and how applied.

Sekta means Adding 30 Degree if lagna is between minuend and subtrahend.

Second rider by uses is It is applied to Annual horoscopy.It also is worth mentioning that sanskrit commentry by Neelkanth lays down Saham can be used in Natal charts also and was used copiously by Astrologers in”1965 to1975” Era in north india.

Importance: I think in olden days when limited text book in astrology were avaiable promnant were Three .”KP readers”,.”Every day astrology” and “Text book of scientific astrology”.This was time when Ramans most book s were under writing except a few published.Being crusador HE confined to Hindu astrology only.

Some of the earlier Basic prograame invariably had paras fortuna calculation and was denoted by Earth symbol.

This was the result of Two text books that were very popular in this Era. One was Every day astrology, It described Both hindu and western system.The author Sh V. K. Ayer in fact wrote one complete chapter on Paras fortuna He propunded the theory to compare Thithi and its progression making it acceptable to hindu astrological reasoning. First part he took as Thithi and said lagna is added But He forgot that for night birth and sekta altered the concept to the core.

Secondly another text came in this Era , it was text book of scientific astrology .It was authored by Bhai staya narayan rao, the Raj jyotish of Jaipur.It also dealt both Hindu and Western astrology.Incidently it was a respected work but did not talk of fortuna .

Here were also now Books coming from Sh. K.S.Krishna murty. In search of truth HE not only made an effort to describe both western concepts and hindu concepts but also drawn heavily from concepts of Nakshtra division and conducted serious Research.

As`is well known He showed how to calculate Fortuna in ReaderVol I on page 98 but also included one complete chapter titled Fortuna in Reader vol II on page 341.He explained Fortuna as Parsfortuna.

In my study of Literatue published I did not come across any serious writing dealing with Fortuna, and it used to be a ornamental entity in some charts.

Prof KSK although gave full chapter but except for one research Paper published in Astrology and Athrishshta April june 1986 nothing substantial is seen.

In this research paper, unknown author has brought out that P.F. ( paras fortuna) replaces The Gulbarga theory in RP and KP.In three examples He demonstrated That concept of gulbarga theory is superceded by Pf in selecting fruitful RP.

I am not detailing beyond this introduction for I am not sure if these notes are relevent and will be useful to the current thread.

With regards

OM TAT SAT.

-

tw853

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:30 PM

Re: Fortuna and its effects

Dear Kanak,You're right its moving along with lagna and what I'm saying is changing position in cusp not in rasi. Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin WEin ji and K.D.Bhashkar ji,> Punya saham change rasi each 1Hrs 30 Mnt to 2 Hrs. please chek it. same like lagna.> regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear D K Bhaskar,> > Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla > Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in > 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.> > Regards,> > tw> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear sir,> > > > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to > its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through > the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by > Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart > changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to > changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the > Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the > cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be > differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.> > > > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few > lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even > Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but only > define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as > possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in > delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga > Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.> > > > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and > 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same > house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are > fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members > and Astro scholar may ponder.> > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > South Ex I, New Delhi > > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: Sir,> > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to > the > > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. > If > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > > fortunate???//> > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is > anyone> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the > source > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house > it > > falls in.> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for > pointers > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and > not > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the > same, > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their > fortunes > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will > offer > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause > favour > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of > its > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to > say > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to > its > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then > every > > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for > the > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > D K Bhaskar> > > +91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> > wrote: > > > Dear Chagantikiran> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of > Moon - > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than > 360 > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can > calculate > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) > in > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the > fortuna > > point in the > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > > kundali ,> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > > time 21.38> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Raichur A R > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > > account > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > D K Bhaskar> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check outnew cars at Autos.>

April 17, 2007

Namaste TW ji,

I am sorry but I do not understand what you wrote; are they significant houses? The losses occurred between 5th April to 11th April.

Kindly clarify to a novice in KP like myself;

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/18/2007 4:16:28 A.M. India Standard Time, tw853 writes:

Gaurav,03-0-1979,06-18am,Jaipur, Raj,26N55, 75E49RunningRunning dasa JUP/JUP/VEN/SAE (13-03-2007 to 03-04-2007)JUP -->1,2,1,4,7,10,5 (sub MER -->3,1,8,9,4)VEN -->11,12,6,11,5,12 (sub KET --> 3,9,12,5,8)SAT -->12,3,5,12,8,9 (sub SUN -->3,12,5,8)1 (12 to 2), 5, 8, 12 are loss of money.Regards,tw , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear All,> > There is a golden principle in astrology that an event happens only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in KP system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations of planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.> > Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to the its exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the lagna who channelise the energy apportioned to it through different cusps. It is a fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than the whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.> The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in his horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this event take place...?> It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose during the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for the event. > A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the ascendant, otherwise it would result ''null''.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> South Extn. part I, New Delhi> Mob: +91-9910048040> > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Gaurav ji,> > You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per runing Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong you never gain .> > kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > yobrevol wrote:> Namaste Ramachandran ji,> > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..> > Gaurav> 3rd July 1979> 6.18am> jaipur, rajasthan> > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes:> Dear Bhaskar,> > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.> > V.Ramachandran.> > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir,> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > fortunate???//> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > falls in.> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > +91-9910048040> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > Dear Chagantikiran> > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon -> Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > point in the > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > kundali ,> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > time 21.38> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > account > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > D K Bhaskar> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. 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