Fortuna and its effects

April 18, 2007

Gaurav,03-0-1979,06-18am,Jaipur, Raj,26N55, 75E49Running

Running dasa JUP/JUP/VEN/SAE (13-03-2007 to 03-04-2007)

JUP -->1,2,1,4,7,10,5 (sub MER -->3,1,8,9,4)

VEN -->11,12,6,11,5,12 (sub KET --> 3,9,12,5,8)

SAT -->12,3,5,12,8,9 (sub SUN -->3,12,5,8)

1 (12 to 2), 5, 8, 12 are loss of money.

Regards,

tw

, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7

wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> There is a golden principle in astrology that an event happens

only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not

happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in KP

system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in

planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations of

planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.

>

> Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to the its

exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the lagna

who channelise the energy apportioned to it through different cusps.

It is a fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than the

whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.

> The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in his

horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this event

take place...?

> It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose during

the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for the

event.

> A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the

ascendant, otherwise it would result ''null''.

>

> Thanks & Regards

> D K Bhaskar

> South Extn. part I, New Delhi

> Mob: +91-9910048040

>

> Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia

wrote:

> Dear Gaurav ji,

>

> You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition

is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per runing

Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong

you never gain .

>

> kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes.

>

> regards

> Kanak Bosmia

>

> yobrevol wrote:

> Namaste Ramachandran ji,

>

> I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who

is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of

rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is

the logic here..

>

> Gaurav

> 3rd July 1979

> 6.18am

> jaipur, rajasthan

>

> In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time,

padma.ramachandran writes:

> Dear Bhaskar,

>

> There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck;

either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The

Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to

give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or

12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear

KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and

gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not

show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your

Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong

lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th

with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna

lord a gain in the market and test out the results.

>

> V.Ramachandran.

>

> On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote: Sir,

>

> //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to

the

> native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope.

If

> this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> fortunate???//

>

> Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is

anyone

> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

source

> wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it

> falls in.

> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers

> for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not

> all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are

> Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

same,

> but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

> having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes

> coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

>

> Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all

> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

> word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

offer

> favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour

> or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of

its

> Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say

> that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to

its

> house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

every

> person on this planet would have fortunate???

> >

> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for

the

> persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards

> > D K Bhaskar

> > +91-9910048040

> >

> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> > Dear Chagantikiran

> > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon -

> Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360

> then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

calculate

> the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in

> your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in

> the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> >

>

> > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:

> > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

> point in the

> > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

> kundali ,

> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> >

> > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > time 21.38

> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> >

> > Good Luck

> > Raichur A R

> > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> account

> >

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check out new cars at Autos.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > D K Bhaskar

> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> >

> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> >

>

> See what's free at AOL.com.

" A person should not be too honest.

> Straight trees are cut first

> And Honest people are screwed first. "

> Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC

75 BC)

>

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check out new cars at Autos.

>

> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

>

April 18, 2007

Dear sujata ji, Just now i send you password on you mail ID please reply. Result not come if all DBAS not indicate same event.if we try to look gain through speculation Dasa Bhukti Antra and sooksma all must to indicate gain through speculation. hope this help. regards Kanak Bosmiasujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: dear kanakji,Does a dasa lord set the parameters

within which the bhukti,antara,sookshma lords give their results or is antra lord capable of giving opposite results.e.g.if dasa lord promises gain through speculation,can a bhukti wipe out all gains?I have not received a password for accessing kp-e-zine.regards,sujataKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Gaurav ji, You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per runing Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong you never gain . kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes. regards Kanak

Bosmiayobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Namaste Ramachandran ji, I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here.. Gaurav 3rd July 1979 6.18am jaipur, rajasthan In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes: Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either

through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran. On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in>

wrote: Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???//Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in

earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar. , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of

star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate

the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > >

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> See what's free at AOL.com. "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC)

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out

new cars at Autos.

April 18, 2007

Dear Tin Win ji, Look signification of 1,5,9.in DBAS.next sookasma of mer is also not good.Runing periode of this native is not good for financialy.change in job /business. regards Kanak Bosmiatw853 <tw853 wrote: Gaurav,03-0-1979,06-18am,Jaipur, Raj,26N55, 75E49RunningRunning dasa JUP/JUP/VEN/SAE (13-03-2007 to 03-04-2007)JUP -->1,2,1,4,7,10,5 (sub MER -->3,1,8,9,4)VEN

-->11,12,6,11,5,12 (sub KET --> 3,9,12,5,8)SAT -->12,3,5,12,8,9 (sub SUN -->3,12,5,8)1 (12 to 2), 5, 8, 12 are loss of money.Regards,tw , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear All,> > There is a golden principle in astrology that an event happens only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in KP system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations of planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.> > Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to the its exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the lagna who channelise the energy apportioned to it

through different cusps. It is a fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than the whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.> The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in his horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this event take place...?> It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose during the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for the event. > A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the ascendant, otherwise it would result ''null''.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> South Extn. part I, New Delhi> Mob: +91-9910048040> > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Gaurav ji,> > You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per

runing Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong you never gain .> > kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes.> > regards> Kanak Bosmia> > yobrevol wrote:> Namaste Ramachandran ji,> > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..> > Gaurav> 3rd July 1979> 6.18am> jaipur, rajasthan> > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes:> Dear Bhaskar,> > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those

houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.> > V.Ramachandran.> > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir,> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every

person on this planet would have > fortunate???//> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > falls in.> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart

for> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > person on this planet

would have fortunate???> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > +91-9910048040> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > Dear Chagantikiran> > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon -> Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > the matters signified by the

House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > point in the > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > kundali ,> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > time 21.38> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > account > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > D K Bhaskar> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > >

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger>"A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC)

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out

new cars at Autos.

April 18, 2007

Dear K,D,Bhaskar ji, Please analysies this chart by Asc sublord how this person married? 28/07/1973 00.35AM Jetpur(Gujarat) 21 N 44 , 70 E 37 regards Kanak Bosmia Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: Dear All,There is a golden principle in astrology that an event happens only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in KP system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations of planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to the its exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the lagna who channelise the energy apportioned to it through different cusps. It is a fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than the whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in his horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this event take place...?It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose during the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for the event. A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the ascendant, otherwise it would result ''null''.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Extn. part I, New DelhiMob: +91-9910048040Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Gaurav ji, You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per runing Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong you never gain . kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes. regards Kanak Bosmiayobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com

wrote: Namaste Ramachandran ji, I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here.. Gaurav 3rd July 1979 6.18am jaipur, rajasthan In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes: Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock

market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran. On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???//Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar. , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and

supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then

place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > Ahhh...imagining

that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> See what's free at AOL.com. "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC)

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out

new cars at Autos.

April 18, 2007

Dear Members Fortuna, also called paras fortuna is dealt with in detail in a special chapter in the KP Reader No2 published in 1975. The results of fortuna in each of the 12 houses is detailed in this chapter The important points in this chapter are reproduced below: "Fortuna improves the matters signified by the house in which it is located in the chart. As per progression when benefics form favourable aspects to Fortuna, one will be lucky to have the matters of the house,enjoyed to the satisfaction of the native. But planets owning bad houses forming good aspects give adverse results whereas evil aspects offer favourable results. Beneficial planets forming evil aspects with Fortuna cause unfavourable effects. Similiarly during transits also one is to predict according to aspects formed to Fortuna. Yoga-adhipathis transiting the position of Fortuna bring unexpected advantages. Fortuna

represents wordly success " This is followed by general predictions for Fortuna in each of the 12 houses. I have not reproduced these Dear Friends, May i share my little understanding on the subject? Fortuna and paras Fortuna are two words in currency. Fortuna is akin to Punya Saham( PS) that is why There is some misunderstanding. PS has different formula for day and night .Moon – Sun + AsC =Degree,Minutes Seconds This point is called Punya Saham for day whereas for Night Subtrahend and minutrahend are reversed, (so formula becomes Sun-Moon+ASC).Moreover there are two riders attached one is sekata and other is when and how

applied. Sekta means Adding 30 Degree if lagna is between minuend and subtrahend. Second rider by uses is It is applied to Annual horoscopy.It also is worth mentioning that sanskrit commentry by Neelkanth lays down Saham can be used in Natal charts also and was used copiously by Astrologers in”1965 to1975” Era in north india. Importance: I think in olden days when limited text book in astrology were avaiable promnant were Three .”KP readers”,.”Every day astrology” and “Text book of scientific astrology”.This was time when Ramans most book s were under

writing except a few published.Being crusador HE confined to Hindu astrology only. Some of the earlier Basic prograame invariably had paras fortuna calculation and was denoted by Earth symbol. This was the result of Two text books that were very popular in this Era. One was Every day astrology, It described Both hindu and western system.The author Sh V. K. Ayer in fact wrote one complete chapter on Paras fortuna He propunded the theory to compare Thithi and its progression making it acceptable to hindu astrological reasoning. First part he took as Thithi and said lagna is added But He forgot that for night birth and sekta altered the concept to the

core. Secondly another text came in this Era , it was text book of scientific astrology .It was authored by Bhai staya narayan rao, the Raj jyotish of Jaipur.It also dealt both Hindu and Western astrology.Incidently it was a respected work but did not talk of fortuna . Here were also now Books coming from Sh. K.S.Krishna murty. In search of truth HE not only made an effort to describe both western concepts and hindu concepts but also drawn heavily from concepts of Nakshtra division and conducted serious Research. As`is well known He showed how to calculate Fortuna in

ReaderVol I on page 98 but also included one complete chapter titled Fortuna in Reader vol II on page 341.He explained Fortuna as Parsfortuna. In my study of Literatue published I did not come across any serious writing dealing with Fortuna, and it used to be a ornamental entity in some charts. Prof KSK although gave full chapter but except for one research Paper published in Astrology and Athrishshta April june 1986 nothing substantial is seen. In this research paper, unknown author has brought out that P.F. ( paras fortuna) replaces The Gulbarga theory in RP and

KP.In three examples He demonstrated That concept of gulbarga theory is superceded by Pf in selecting fruitful RP. I am not detailing beyond this introduction for I am not sure if these notes are relevent and will be useful to the current thread. With regards OM TAT SAT. - tw853 Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:30 PM Re: Fortuna and its effects Dear Kanak,You're right its moving along with lagna and what I'm saying is changing position in cusp not in rasi. Regards,tw , Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote:>> Dear Tin WEin ji and K.D.Bhashkar ji,> Punya saham change rasi each 1Hrs 30 Mnt to 2 Hrs. please chek it. same like lagna.> regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear D K

Bhaskar,> > Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla > Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in > 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.> > Regards,> > tw> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear sir,> > > > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to > its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through > the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by > Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart > changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to > changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the > Moon chart or

ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the > cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be > differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.> > > > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few > lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even > Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but only > define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as > possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in > delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga > Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.> > > > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and > 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same > house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are > fortunate in the

same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members > and Astro scholar may ponder.> > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > South Ex I, New Delhi > > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: Sir,> > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to > the > > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. > If > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > > fortunate???//> > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is > anyone> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the > source > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house > it >

> falls in.> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for > pointers > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and > not > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the > same, > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their > fortunes > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > ---

In , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will > offer > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause > favour > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of > its > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to > say > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to > its > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then > every > > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the

day birth but for > the > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > D K Bhaskar> > > +91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> > wrote: > > > Dear Chagantikiran> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of > Moon - > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than > 360 > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can > calculate > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) > in

> > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the > fortuna > > point in the > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > > kundali ,> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > > time 21.38> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Raichur A R > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > > account > > > > > >

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > D K Bhaskar> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too

honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check outnew cars at Autos.> Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account

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April 18, 2007

Dear Gaurav,

Running dasa JUP/JUP/VEN/MER (03-04-2007 to 21-04-2007)

MER --> 3,1,8,9,1,4 (sub Rah --> 3,8,9,6,11,12,3,5

Runnig dasa is significators of 1 (12 to 2), 5, 8, 12 for loss of

money.

Regards,

tw

, yobrevol wrote:

>

> Namaste TW ji,

>

> I am sorry but I do not understand what you wrote; are they

significant

> houses? The losses occurred between 5th April to 11th April.

>

> Kindly clarify to a novice in KP like myself;

> Gaurav

>

> In a message dated 4/18/2007 4:16:28 A.M. India Standard Time,

> tw853 writes:

>

> Gaurav,03-0-1979,06-18am,Jaipur, Raj,26N55, 75E49Running

> Running dasa JUP/JUP/VEN/SAE (13-03-2007 to 03-04-2007)

>

> JUP -->1,2,1,4,7,10,5 (sub MER -->3,1,8,9,4)

> VEN -->11,12,6,11,5,12 (sub KET --> 3,9,12,5,8)

> SAT -->12,3,5,12,8,9 (sub SUN -->3,12,5,8)

>

> 1 (12 to 2), 5, 8, 12 are loss of money.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > There is a golden principle in astrology that an event happens

> only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not

> happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in KP

> system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in

> planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations of

> planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.

> >

> > Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to the

its

> exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the

lagna

> who channelise the energy apportioned to it through different

cusps.

> It is a fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than the

> whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.

> > The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in his

> horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this event

> take place...?

> > It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose

during

> the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for the

> event.

> > A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the

> ascendant, otherwise it would result ''null''.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards

> > D K Bhaskar

> > South Extn. part I, New Delhi

> > Mob: +91-9910048040

> >

> > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> wrote:

> > Dear Gaurav ji,

> >

> > You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first

condition

> is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per

runing

> Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord

strong

> you never gain .

> >

> > kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs

rupes.

> >

> > regards

> > Kanak Bosmia

> >

> > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > Namaste Ramachandran ji,

> >

> > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted,

who

> is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs

of

> rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is

> the logic here..

> >

> > Gaurav

> > 3rd July 1979

> > 6.18am

> > jaipur, rajasthan

> >

> > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard

Time,

> padma.ramachandran@ writes:

> > Dear Bhaskar,

> >

> > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their

luck;

> either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock

market.The

> Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act

to

> give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8

or

> 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a

clear

> KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and

> gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will

not

> show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your

> Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong

> lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of

5th

> with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna

> lord a gain in the market and test out the results.

> >

> > V.Ramachandran.

> >

> > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote: Sir,

> >

> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to

> the

> > native with respect to its house position in the natal

horoscope.

> If

> > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > fortunate???//

> >

> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is

> anyone

> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

> source

> > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house

it

> > falls in.

> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

pointers

> > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

not

> > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons

are

> > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

> same,

> > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate

in

> > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

fortunes

> > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> >

> > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after

all

> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Dharmendra Kumar

<kdbhaskar7@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

> > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

> offer

> > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

favour

> > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of

> its

> > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

say

> > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect

to

> its

> > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

> every

> > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > >

> > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for

> the

> > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > +91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

Moon -

>

> > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than

360

> > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> calculate

> > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house

in

> > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky)

in

> > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > >

> >

> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:

> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

> > point in the

> > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

> > kundali ,

> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > >

> > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > time 21.38

> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > >

> > > Good Luck

> > > Raichur A R

> > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > account

> > >

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

> > >

> >

> > See what's free at AOL.com.

> >

> > " A person should not be too honest.

> > Straight trees are cut first

> > And Honest people are screwed first. "

> > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350

BC

> 75 BC)

> >

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check out new cars at Autos.

> >

> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> Links

>

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>

April 18, 2007

Dear Gaurav,

Numbers are houses.

Regards,

tw

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear Gaurav,

>

> Running dasa JUP/JUP/VEN/MER (03-04-2007 to 21-04-2007)

>

> MER --> 3,1,8,9,1,4 (sub Rah --> 3,8,9,6,11,12,3,5

>

> Runnig dasa is significators of 1 (12 to 2), 5, 8, 12 for loss of

> money.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , yobrevol@ wrote:

> >

> > Namaste TW ji,

> >

> > I am sorry but I do not understand what you wrote; are they

> significant

> > houses? The losses occurred between 5th April to 11th April.

> >

> > Kindly clarify to a novice in KP like myself;

> > Gaurav

> >

> > In a message dated 4/18/2007 4:16:28 A.M. India Standard Time,

> > tw853@ writes:

> >

> > Gaurav,03-0-1979,06-18am,Jaipur, Raj,26N55, 75E49Running

> > Running dasa JUP/JUP/VEN/SAE (13-03-2007 to 03-04-2007)

> >

> > JUP -->1,2,1,4,7,10,5 (sub MER -->3,1,8,9,4)

> > VEN -->11,12,6,11,5,12 (sub KET --> 3,9,12,5,8)

> > SAT -->12,3,5,12,8,9 (sub SUN -->3,12,5,8)

> >

> > 1 (12 to 2), 5, 8, 12 are loss of money.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Dharmendra Kumar

<kdbhaskar7@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > There is a golden principle in astrology that an event

happens

> > only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not

> > happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in

KP

> > system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in

> > planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations

of

> > planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.

> > >

> > > Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to

the

> its

> > exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the

> lagna

> > who channelise the energy apportioned to it through different

> cusps.

> > It is a fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than

the

> > whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.

> > > The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in

his

> > horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this

event

> > take place...?

> > > It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose

> during

> > the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for

the

> > event.

> > > A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the

> > ascendant, otherwise it would result ''null''.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > South Extn. part I, New Delhi

> > > Mob: +91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Gaurav ji,

> > >

> > > You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first

> condition

> > is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per

> runing

> > Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord

> strong

> > you never gain .

> > >

> > > kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs

> rupes.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Kanak Bosmia

> > >

> > > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > > Namaste Ramachandran ji,

> > >

> > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted,

> who

> > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs

> of

> > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what

is

> > the logic here..

> > >

> > > Gaurav

> > > 3rd July 1979

> > > 6.18am

> > > jaipur, rajasthan

> > >

> > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard

> Time,

> > padma.ramachandran@ writes:

> > > Dear Bhaskar,

> > >

> > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their

> luck;

> > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock

> market.The

> > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will

act

> to

> > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8

> or

> > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a

> clear

> > KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and

> > gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will

> not

> > show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your

> > Clients who are making money in the market must be having

strong

> > lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement

of

> 5th

> > with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak

lagna

> > lord a gain in the market and test out the results.

> > >

> > > V.Ramachandran.

> > >

> > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote: Sir,

> > >

> > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune

to

> > the

> > > native with respect to its house position in the natal

> horoscope.

> > If

> > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > > fortunate???//

> > >

> > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither

is

> > anyone

> > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

> > source

> > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which

house

> it

> > > falls in.

> > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> pointers

> > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life

and

> not

> > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons

> are

> > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

> > same,

> > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate

> in

> > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> fortunes

> > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts

the

> > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> > >

> > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after

> all

> > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Dharmendra Kumar

> <kdbhaskar7@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with

the

> > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna

will

> > offer

> > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

> favour

> > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord

of

> > its

> > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous

to

> say

> > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect

> to

> > its

> > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

> > every

> > > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > > >

> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but

for

> > the

> > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > +91-9910048040

> > > >

> > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

> Moon -

> >

> > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than

> 360

> > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> > calculate

> > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the

house

> in

> > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE

(Lucky)

> in

> > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > > >

> > >

> > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

> > > point in the

> > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in

my

> > > kundali ,

> > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > > >

> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > > time 21.38

> > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > > >

> > > > Good Luck

> > > > Raichur A R

> > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > > account

> > > >

> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New

Delhi

> > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > > >

> > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

> Messenger

> > > >

> > >

> > > See what's free at AOL.com.

> > >

> > > " A person should not be too honest.

> > > Straight trees are cut first

> > > And Honest people are screwed first. "

> > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer,

350

> BC

> > 75 BC)

> > >

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > >

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Messenger

> > >

> >

> > Links

> >

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> >

>

April 18, 2007

Aum Durgayai namah

thank you TW ji,

Namaste

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/18/2007 5:08:30 P.M. India Standard Time, tw853 writes:

Dear Gaurav,Running dasa JUP/JUP/VEN/MER (03-04-2007 to 21-04-2007)MER --> 3,1,8,9,1,4 (sub Rah --> 3,8,9,6,11,12,3,5Runnig dasa is significators of 1 (12 to 2), 5, 8, 12 for loss of money.Regards,tw , yobrevol wrote:>> > Namaste TW ji,> > I am sorry but I do not understand what you wrote; are they significant > houses? The losses occurred between 5th April to 11th April.> > Kindly clarify to a novice in KP like myself;> Gaurav> > > In a message dated 4/18/2007 4:16:28 A.M. India Standard Time, > tw853 writes:> > Gaurav,03-0-1979,06-18am,Jaipur, Raj,26N55, 75E49Running> Running dasa JUP/JUP/VEN/SAE (13-03-2007 to 03-04-2007)> > JUP -->1,2,1,4,7,10,5 (sub MER -->3,1,8,9,4)> VEN -->11,12,6,11,5,12 (sub KET --> 3,9,12,5,8)> SAT -->12,3,5,12,8,9 (sub SUN -->3,12,5,8)> > 1 (12 to 2), 5, 8, 12 are loss of money.> > Regards,> > tw> > > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > There is a golden principle in astrology that an event happens > only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not > happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in KP > system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in > planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations of > planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.> > > > Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to the its > exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the lagna > who channelise the energy apportioned to it through different cusps. > It is a fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than the > whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.> > The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in his > horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this event > take place...?> > It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose during > the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for the > event. > > A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the > ascendant, otherwise it would result ''null''.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > South Extn. part I, New Delhi> > Mob: +91-9910048040> > > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@> > wrote: > > Dear Gaurav ji,> > > > You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition > is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per runing > Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong > you never gain .> > > > kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes.> > > > regards> > Kanak Bosmia> > > > yobrevol@ wrote:> > Namaste Ramachandran ji,> > > > > > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who > is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of > rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is > the logic here..> > > > Gaurav> > 3rd July 1979> > 6.18am> > jaipur, rajasthan> > > > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, > padma.ramachandran@ writes:> > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; > either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The > Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to > give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or > 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear > KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and > gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not > show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your > Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong > lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th > with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna > lord a gain in the market and test out the results.> > > > V.Ramachandran.> > > > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: Sir,> > > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to > the > > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. > If > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > > fortunate???//> > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is > anyone> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the > source > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > > falls in.> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the > same, > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will > offer > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of > its > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to > its > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then > every > > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for > the > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > D K Bhaskar> > > +91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > > Dear Chagantikiran> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon -> > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can > calculate > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > > point in the > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > > kundali ,> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > > time 21.38> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Raichur A R > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > > account > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > D K Bhaskar> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > > Straight trees are cut first > > And Honest people are screwed first." > > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC > 75 BC) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > Links> > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.>

April 18, 2007

Dear Mr. KANAK Ji,Please analyse, 7th house as per your method, then I will reveal how Asc is related (?) with Marriage.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear K,D,Bhaskar ji, Please analysies this chart by Asc sublord how this person married? 28/07/1973 00.35AM Jetpur(Gujarat) 21 N 44 , 70 E 37 regards Kanak Bosmia Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear

All,There is a golden principle in astrology that an event happens only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in KP system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations of planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to the its exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the lagna who channelise the energy apportioned to it through different cusps. It is a

fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than the whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in his horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this event take place...?It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose during the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for the event. A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the ascendant, otherwise it would result ''null''.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Extn. part I, New DelhiMob: +91-9910048040Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Gaurav ji, You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per runing Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong you never gain . kindly check you DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes. regards Kanak Bosmiayobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Namaste Ramachandran ji, I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here.. Gaurav 3rd July 1979 6.18am jaipur, rajasthan In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes: Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran. On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???//Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of

life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar. , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word

'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is

(Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506

2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> See what's free at AOL.com. "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) Ahhh...imagining that

irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Thanks & Regards,D K BhaskarShanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New DelhiMob.: 91-9910048040

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April 18, 2007

Dear Swami,

I have given earlier,on this site,the effects one could expect to experience,when F is posited in houses I to XII...

given by our revered Guruji,the late Shri K.S.Krishnamurthi...in replies to letters...several times...as per KSK, in the original books by him...wherein he clearly says..." Fortuna deserves our serious attention, as it indicates certain results which are not so clearly shown by the aspects formed by the transitting planets to those in the natal chart(sic)."

He further says..."Fortuna improves the matters signified by the house in which it is located in the chart.As per progression,when benefics form favourable aspects to Fortuna,one will be lucky in the matters signified by that house...and enjoy those matters to the native's satisfaction..."..... "Yogadhipatis/beneficial planets transitting Fortuna give most beneficial results...bringing unexpected successes...Fortuna represents worldly success... etc.,and then goes on to give the results of F in the vatious Houses..."

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

swamircs <swami_rcs Sent: Wednesday, 18 April, 2007 1:37:30 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Dear Friends,

May i share my little understanding on the subject?

Fortuna and paras Fortuna are two words in currency.

Fortuna is akin to Punya Saham( PS) that is why There is some misunderstanding. PS has different formula for day and night .Moon – Sun + AsC =Degree,Minutes Seconds This point is called Punya Saham for day whereas for Night Subtrahend and minutrahend are reversed, (so formula becomes Sun-Moon+ASC) .Moreover there are two riders attached one is sekata and other is when and how applied.

Sekta means Adding 30 Degree if lagna is between minuend and subtrahend.

Second rider by uses is It is applied to Annual horoscopy.It also is worth mentioning that sanskrit commentry by Neelkanth lays down Saham can be used in Natal charts also and was used copiously by Astrologers in”1965 to1975” Era in north india.

Importance: I think in olden days when limited text book in astrology were avaiable promnant were Three .”KP readers”,.”Every day astrology” and “Text book of scientific astrology”.This was time when Ramans most book s were under writing except a few published.Being crusador HE confined to Hindu astrology only.

Some of the earlier Basic prograame invariably had paras fortuna calculation and was denoted by Earth symbol.

This was the result of Two text books that were very popular in this Era. One was Every day astrology, It described Both hindu and western system.The author Sh V. K. Ayer in fact wrote one complete chapter on Paras fortuna He propunded the theory to compare Thithi and its progression making it acceptable to hindu astrological reasoning. First part he took as Thithi and said lagna is added But He forgot that for night birth and sekta altered the concept to the core.

Secondly another text came in this Era , it was text book of scientific astrology .It was authored by Bhai staya narayan rao, the Raj jyotish of Jaipur.It also dealt both Hindu and Western astrology.Incidentl y it was a respected work but did not talk of fortuna .

Here were also now Books coming from Sh. K.S.Krishna murty. In search of truth HE not only made an effort to describe both western concepts and hindu concepts but also drawn heavily from concepts of Nakshtra division and conducted serious Research.

As`is well known He showed how to calculate Fortuna in ReaderVol I on page 98 but also included one complete chapter titled Fortuna in Reader vol II on page 341.He explained Fortuna as Parsfortuna.

In my study of Literatue published I did not come across any serious writing dealing with Fortuna, and it used to be a ornamental entity in some charts.

Prof KSK although gave full chapter but except for one research Paper published in Astrology and Athrishshta April june 1986 nothing substantial is seen.

In this research paper, unknown author has brought out that P.F. ( paras fortuna) replaces The Gulbarga theory in RP and KP.In three examples He demonstrated That concept of gulbarga theory is superceded by Pf in selecting fruitful RP.

I am not detailing beyond this introduction for I am not sure if these notes are relevent and will be useful to the current thread.

With regards

OM TAT SAT.

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tw853

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:30 PM

Re: Fortuna and its effects

Dear Kanak,You're right its moving along with lagna and what I'm saying is changing position in cusp not in rasi. Regards,tw@gro ups.com, Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Tin WEin ji and K.D.Bhashkar ji,> Punya saham change rasi each 1Hrs 30 Mnt to 2 Hrs. please chek it. same like lagna.> regards> Kanak Bosmia> > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear D K Bhaskar,> > Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla > Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in > 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.> > Regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com,

Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@ > > wrote:> >> > Dear sir,> > > > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to > its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through > the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by > Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart > changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to > changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the > Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the > cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be > differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.> > > > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few > lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even > Kalamsa do not

create a division or a part or a separation but only > define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as > possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in > delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga > Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.> > > > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and > 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same > house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are > fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members > and Astro scholar may ponder.> > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > South Ex I, New Delhi > > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > wrote: Sir,> >

> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to > the > > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. > If > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > > fortunate??? //> > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is > anyone> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the > source > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house > it > > falls in.> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for > pointers > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and > not > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the > same, > > but may not be

good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their > fortunes > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@ > > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

> offer > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause > favour > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of > its > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to > say > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to > its > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then > every > > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for > the > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > D K Bhaskar> > > +91-9910048040> > >

> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> > wrote: > > > Dear Chagantikiran> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of > Moon - > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than > 360 > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can > calculate > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) > in > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ > wrote:> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the > fortuna > > point in the > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

> > kundali ,> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > > time 21.38> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Raichur A R > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > > account > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > D K Bhaskar> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > >

Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > "A person should not be too honest. > Straight trees are cut first > And Honest people are screwed first." > Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check outnew cars at

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April 18, 2007

Dear D K Bhaskar,

Which SW are you using?

As per KPAstro 2.5, Fortuna is in 1st house after 18/07/1947 07:10

am.

Regards,

tw

, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7

wrote:

>

> Dear tw,

>

> You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA can

never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the

case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from

15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.

> Learned members can verify it.

>

> Thanks & Regards

> D K Bhaskar

> South Ex I, New Delhi

> Mob: 91-9910048040

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear D K

Bhaskar,

>

> Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla

> Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in

> 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear sir,

> >

> > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due

to

> its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap

through

> the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by

> Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi

chart

> changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to

> changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to

the

> Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so

the

> cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be

> differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.

> >

> > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few

> lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even

> Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but

only

> define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as

> possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in

> delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of

Verga

> Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.

> >

> > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and

> 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same

> house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born

are

> fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned

members

> and Astro scholar may ponder.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards

> > D K Bhaskar

> > South Ex I, New Delhi

> > Mob: 91-9910048040

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote: Sir,

> >

> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune

to

> the

> > native with respect to its house position in the natal

horoscope.

> If

> > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > fortunate???//

> >

> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is

> anyone

> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

> source

> > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which

house

> it

> > falls in.

> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> pointers

> > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

> not

> > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons

are

> > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

> same,

> > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate

in

> > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> fortunes

> > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> >

> > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after

all

> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Dharmendra Kumar

<kdbhaskar7@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with

the

> > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna

will

> offer

> > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

> favour

> > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord

of

> its

> > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

> say

> > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect

to

> its

> > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

> every

> > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > >

> > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but

for

> the

> > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > +91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

> wrote:

> > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

> Moon -

> > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more

than

> 360

> > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> calculate

> > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house

in

> > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE

(Lucky)

> in

> > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > >

> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:

> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the

> fortuna

> > point in the

> > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in

my

> > kundali ,

> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > >

> > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > time 21.38

> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > >

> > > Good Luck

> > > Raichur A R

> > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > account

> > >

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

> > >

> >

> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> >

Thanks & Regards,

> D K Bhaskar

> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> Mob.: 91-9910048040

>

> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

>

April 19, 2007

Dear Friends,

Bhaskar's assertion that Fortuna's rashi/house

changes very slowly i.e. once in 2 1/4 days suggested to me to

examine the formula.

Long of Moon -Long of Sun + long of Lagna = deg,min,secs.

In a 24 hr period long of Moon changes by approx 13 deg,whereas

Sun's Long. changes by 1 deg.Lagna does not change for the same

period. Hence essentially we are talking of difference between

Moon and Sun's Long.i.e approx 12 deg per day's travel.If in a day

this travel converted into long for a particular lagna long could

result in a rashi/house change.

This being an arithmetical calculation, both TW and Bhaskar could

be correct, occasions being different.

The above resemble Sahams calculation propounded by B V Raman,can

at best be supplementary and corroborative.They can never replace

the fundemental approach propounde by Sri KSK, or override.

Regards,

Satish

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear D K Bhaskar,

>

> Which SW are you using?

>

> As per KPAstro 2.5, Fortuna is in 1st house after 18/07/1947 07:10

> am.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear tw,

> >

> > You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA

can

> never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the

> case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from

> 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.

> > Learned members can verify it.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards

> > D K Bhaskar

> > South Ex I, New Delhi

> > Mob: 91-9910048040

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: Dear D K

> Bhaskar,

> >

> > Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of

Camilla

> > Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is

in

> > 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Dharmendra Kumar

<kdbhaskar7@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear sir,

> > >

> > > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred

due

> to

> > its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap

> through

> > the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done

by

> > Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi

> chart

> > changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to

> > changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped

to

> the

> > Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so

> the

> > cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be

> > differentiated which is not common with other school of

thoughts.

> > >

> > > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write

few

> > lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or

even

> > Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but

> only

> > define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as

> > possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact

in

> > delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of

> Verga

> > Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.

> > >

> > > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2

and

> > 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the

same

> > house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born

> are

> > fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned

> members

> > and Astro scholar may ponder.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > South Ex I, New Delhi

> > > Mob: 91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote: Sir,

> > >

> > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune

> to

> > the

> > > native with respect to its house position in the natal

> horoscope.

> > If

> > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > > fortunate???//

> > >

> > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither

is

> > anyone

> > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to

the

> > source

> > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which

> house

> > it

> > > falls in.

> > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> > pointers

> > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life

and

> > not

> > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some

persons

> are

> > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in

the

> > same,

> > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are

fortunate

> in

> > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> > fortunes

> > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts

the

> > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> > >

> > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is

after

> all

> > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Dharmendra Kumar

> <kdbhaskar7@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with

> the

> > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna

> will

> > offer

> > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

> > favour

> > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord

> of

> > its

> > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous

to

> > say

> > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with

respect

> to

> > its

> > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be,

then

> > every

> > > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > > >

> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but

> for

> > the

> > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > +91-9910048040

> > > >

> > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

> > wrote:

> > > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long

of

> > Moon -

> > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more

> than

> > 360

> > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> > calculate

> > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the

house

> in

> > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE

> (Lucky)

> > in

> > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > > >

> > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the

> > fortuna

> > > point in the

> > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in

> my

> > > kundali ,

> > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > > >

> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > > time 21.38

> > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > > >

> > > > Good Luck

> > > > Raichur A R

> > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > > account

> > > >

> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New

Delhi

> > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > > >

> > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

> Messenger

> > > >

> > >

> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

> > >

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > D K Bhaskar

> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> >

> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> >

>

April 19, 2007

Dear Dharmendra Kumar and Dear TINWIN Dhamendra is correct, in the sense the House in which Fortuna is placed will change only when the Tithi Changes., because by definition, Fortna and tithi are equidistant from the Lagna. Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: Dear tw,You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA can never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.Learned members can verify it.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Ex I, New Delhi Mob: 91-9910048040tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar,Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.Regards,tw , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear sir,> > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due

to its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.> > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but only define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga

Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.> > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members and Astro scholar may ponder.> > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> South Ex I, New Delhi > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir,> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > fortunate???//> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone> unforunate in all

departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > falls in.> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > regards,>

Bhaskar.> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > persons who are born after Sunset and

before Sunrise have to > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > +91-9910048040> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > Dear Chagantikiran> > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > Dear Astrologers , i saw

the discussion about the fortuna > point in the > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > kundali ,> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > time 21.38> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > account > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > D K Bhaskar> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> >

Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger>Thanks & Regards,D K BhaskarShanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New DelhiMob.: 91-9910048040 Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out

new cars at Autos.

April 19, 2007

dear bhasker,I calculated fortuna for 5-5-55 for delhi for 11am and 6am.It came to dhanu(8th house) and tula(7th house) repectively.regardssujataDharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: Dear tw,You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA

can never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.Learned members can verify it.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Ex I, New Delhi Mob: 91-9910048040tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar, Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18. Regards, tw , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: > > Dear sir, > > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to its accuracy for the individuality by

reducing the time gap through the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts. > > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but only define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga Charts is a dichotomy,

and an illusion. > > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members and Astro scholar may ponder. > > Thanks & Regards > D K Bhaskar > South Ex I, New Delhi > Mob: 91-9910048040 > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir, > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > fortunate???// > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all

departments,neither is anyone > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > falls in. > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after

all > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > person on this planet would have

fortunate??? > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > calculate their Fortuna by formula: > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc. > > > > > > Thanks & Regards > > D K Bhaskar > > +91-9910048040 > > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > Dear Chagantikiran > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - > Long of sun +Long of ASC) > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > your chart. The General Rule

is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found. > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote: > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > point in the > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > kundali , > > and what are its effects,on my career and income . > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976 > > time 21.38 > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > account > > > >

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Dear Sri Raichur,

Thank your for your explanation.

To make it clear let me ask which one is correct?

1/ it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days

OR

2/ simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to

18/07/1947 21:30PM.

i.e. 3days:17hrs:15 mins

OR

3/ both 1/ & 2/

Thanks and regards,

tw

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> Dear Dharmendra Kumar and Dear TINWIN

> Dhamendra is correct, in the sense the House in which Fortuna is

placed will change only when the Tithi Changes., because by

definition, Fortna and tithi are equidistant from the Lagna.

>

> Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:

> Dear tw,

>

> You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA can

never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the

case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from

15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.

> Learned members can verify it.

>

> Thanks & Regards

> D K Bhaskar

> South Ex I, New Delhi

> Mob: 91-9910048040

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar,

>

> Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla

> Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in

> 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear sir,

> >

> > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due

to

> its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap

through

> the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by

> Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart

> changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to

> changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to

the

> Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so

the

> cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be

> differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.

> >

> > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few

> lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even

> Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but

only

> define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as

> possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in

> delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga

> Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.

> >

> > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and

> 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same

> house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born

are

> fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned

members

> and Astro scholar may ponder.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards

> > D K Bhaskar

> > South Ex I, New Delhi

> > Mob: 91-9910048040

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> wrote: Sir,

> >

> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to

> the

> > native with respect to its house position in the natal

horoscope.

> If

> > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > fortunate???//

> >

> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is

> anyone

> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

> source

> > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house

> it

> > falls in.

> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> pointers

> > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

> not

> > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons

are

> > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

> same,

> > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

> > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> fortunes

> > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> >

> > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all

> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > , Dharmendra Kumar

<kdbhaskar7@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

> > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

> offer

> > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

> favour

> > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of

> its

> > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

> say

> > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to

> its

> > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

> every

> > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > >

> > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for

> the

> > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > +91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

> wrote:

> > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

> Moon -

> > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than

> 360

> > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> calculate

> > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house

in

> > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky)

> in

> > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > >

> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:

> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the

> fortuna

> > point in the

> > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

> > kundali ,

> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > >

> > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > time 21.38

> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > >

> > > Good Luck

> > > Raichur A R

> > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > account

> > >

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> > >

> >

> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> >

Thanks & Regards,

> D K Bhaskar

> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> Mob.: 91-9910048040

>

> Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

>

> Good Luck

> Raichur A R

> Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account

>

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> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

April 19, 2007

Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P.

Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

Also, what is the relationshipsconnections of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth.

Kindly inform...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

"yobrevol" <yobrevol Sent: Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..> wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> >

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger>

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Dear K.D.Bhaskar ji, I think you have take my mail as chalange, and that was not my intention any how. this is new for me to check event by asc and when i read your mail i found not tally what you writen in your mail so for just to understand you point i write you. There is no any MY method i follow only KP System which writen by sri KSL ji. You are free to no belive me, but there is no bed intention in my mind. I have clear my side, I am very sorry for asking you question, in future i never ask you anything it is my promiss. sorry once again, with best regards Kanak Bosmia Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote: Dear Mr. KANAK Ji,Please analyse, 7th house as per your method, then I will reveal how Asc is related (?) with Marriage.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarKanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear K,D,Bhaskar ji, Please analysies this chart by Asc sublord how this person married? 28/07/1973 00.35AM Jetpur(Gujarat) 21 N 44 , 70 E 37 regards Kanak Bosmia Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear All,There is a golden principle in astrology that an event happens only if it is promised. What is promised may happen or may not happen, but what is not promised never happens. As we know in KP system; everything is stored in cusps (houses/Bhava), not in planets. Here we do not recall YOGA formed by the combinations of planetary positions rather use combinations of Cusps.Ascendant contains all the energy from cosmos according to the its exact zodiacal degree at the moment of birth time. It is the lagna who channelise the energy apportioned to it

through different cusps. It is a fact of mathematics that part can not be greater than the whole. So no other cusp overrides Ascendant in any manner.The native lost in stock trading, if it wasn't promised in his horoscope, in the dasa period of any planet how could this event take place...?It was promised by lagna also so the native have to loose during the dasa period of that planet which is the significator for the event. A native can only enjoy those thing which is touched by the ascendant, otherwise it would result ''null''.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Extn. part I, New DelhiMob: +91-9910048040Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Gaurav ji, You have not understand point of ramchandran ji, first condition is about Lagna lord but native get result good or bad as per runing Dasa, so if you runing dasa is not good even your lagna lord strong you never gain . kindly check you

DBAS at time when you lost many many lacs rupes. regards Kanak Bosmiayobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Namaste Ramachandran ji, I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here.. Gaurav 3rd July 1979 6.18am jaipur, rajasthan In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran writes: Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran. On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???//Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For

example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar. , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer

favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in

degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> See what's free at AOL.com. "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger "A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first And Honest people are screwed first." Chanakya quotes (Indian politician, strategist and writer, 350 BC 75 BC) Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car"

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April 20, 2007

Dear Tinwin I would modify statement 1 to read Fortuna's placement changes when tithi changes, which is generally 2 .25 days. Staement 2 is wrong, I cast charts for the dates for two different places, and got two different Lagnas. The result on 15-7-1947 @04,15 fortuna is in 11th house (KP houses) On 18-7-1947 at 21,30 Fortuna was in 1st House you can test it, by casting the KP charts for the date and time. Hope this settles the issue tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Sri Raichur,Thank your for your explanation.To make it clear let me ask which one is correct?1/ it changes only in 2 + 1/4 daysOR 2/ simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.i.e. 3days:17hrs:15 minsOR3/ both 1/ & 2/Thanks and regards,tw , Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:>> Dear Dharmendra Kumar and Dear TINWIN> Dhamendra is correct, in the sense the House in which Fortuna is placed will change only when the Tithi Changes., because by definition, Fortna and tithi are equidistant from the Lagna. > > > > > Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7

wrote:> Dear tw,> > You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA can never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.> Learned members can verify it.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> South Ex I, New Delhi > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar,> > Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla > Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in > 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.> > Regards,> > tw> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> >

wrote:> >> > Dear sir,> > > > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to > its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through > the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by > Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart > changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to > changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the > Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the > cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be > differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.> > > > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few > lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even > Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but

only > define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as > possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in > delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga > Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.> > > > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and > 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same > house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are > fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members > and Astro scholar may ponder.> > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > South Ex I, New Delhi > > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: Sir,> > > > //It is ridiculous to say that

fortuna always brings fortune to > the > > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. > If > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > > fortunate???//> > > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is > anyone> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the > source > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house > it > > falls in.> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for > pointers > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and > not > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the > same, > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are

fortunate in > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their > fortunes > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > > > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will > offer > > favourable results where it is

located, rather it may cause > favour > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of > its > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to > say > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to > its > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then > every > > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for > the > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > > D K Bhaskar> > > +91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > Raichur-a-r

<raichurar@> > wrote: > > > Dear Chagantikiran> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of > Moon - > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than > 360 > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can > calculate > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) > in > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the > fortuna > > point in the > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > > kundali ,> > > and what

are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > > time 21.38> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > > Raichur A R > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > > account > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > D K Bhaskar> > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608

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Dear Sri Raichur,

Thank you for your clarification.

Thanks and regards,

tw

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> Dear Tinwin

> I would modify statement 1 to read

> Fortuna's placement changes when tithi changes, which is

generally 2 .25 days.

>

> Staement 2 is wrong, I cast charts for the dates for two

different places, and got two different Lagnas. The

> result on 15-7-1947 @04,15 fortuna is in 11th house (KP houses)

> On 18-7-1947 at 21,30 Fortuna was in 1st House

>

> you can test it, by casting the KP charts for the date and time.

>

> Hope this settles the issue

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear Sri Raichur,

>

> Thank your for your explanation.

>

> To make it clear let me ask which one is correct?

>

> 1/ it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days

>

> OR

>

> 2/ simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to

> 18/07/1947 21:30PM.

>

> i.e. 3days:17hrs:15 mins

>

> OR

>

> 3/ both 1/ & 2/

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dharmendra Kumar and Dear TINWIN

> > Dhamendra is correct, in the sense the House in which Fortuna is

> placed will change only when the Tithi Changes., because by

> definition, Fortna and tithi are equidistant from the Lagna.

> >

> > Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> wrote:

> > Dear tw,

> >

> > You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA

can

> never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the

> case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from

> 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.

> > Learned members can verify it.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards

> > D K Bhaskar

> > South Ex I, New Delhi

> > Mob: 91-9910048040

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar,

> >

> > Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla

> > Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is

in

> > 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Dharmendra Kumar

<kdbhaskar7@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear sir,

> > >

> > > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due

> to

> > its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap

> through

> > the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by

> > Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi

chart

> > changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to

> > changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to

> the

> > Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so

> the

> > cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be

> > differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.

> > >

> > > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write

few

> > lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or

even

> > Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but

> only

> > define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as

> > possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in

> > delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of

Verga

> > Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.

> > >

> > > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and

> > 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the

same

> > house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born

> are

> > fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned

> members

> > and Astro scholar may ponder.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > South Ex I, New Delhi

> > > Mob: 91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > wrote: Sir,

> > >

> > > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune

to

> > the

> > > native with respect to its house position in the natal

> horoscope.

> > If

> > > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > > fortunate???//

> > >

> > > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is

> > anyone

> > > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

> > source

> > > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which

house

> > it

> > > falls in.

> > > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

> > pointers

> > > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

> > not

> > > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons

> are

> > > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

> > same,

> > > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate

in

> > > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

> > fortunes

> > > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> > > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> > >

> > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after

all

> > > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > , Dharmendra Kumar

> <kdbhaskar7@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with

the

> > > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

> > offer

> > > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

> > favour

> > > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord

of

> > its

> > > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

> > say

> > > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect

to

> > its

> > > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

> > every

> > > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > > >

> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but

for

> > the

> > > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards

> > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > +91-9910048040

> > > >

> > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@>

> > wrote:

> > > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

> > Moon -

> > > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than

> > 360

> > > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> > calculate

> > > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house

> in

> > > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE

(Lucky)

> > in

> > > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > > >

> > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the

> > fortuna

> > > point in the

> > > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in

my

> > > kundali ,

> > > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > > >

> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > > time 21.38

> > > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > > >

> > > > Good Luck

> > > > Raichur A R

> > > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> > > account

> > > >

> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > > Check out new cars at Autos.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > D K Bhaskar

> > > > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > > > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> > > >

> > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

Messenger

> > > >

> > >

> > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger

> > >

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > D K Bhaskar

> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> >

> > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

> Messenger

> >

> > Good Luck

> > Raichur A R

> > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account

> >

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> >

Good Luck

> Raichur A R

> Bombay Tel 2506 2609

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>

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>

April 21, 2007

Dear Sujata What was the tithi (moon-sun) at these two times ? If tithi has changed, then the positon of fortuna also changes. sujata das <sujatadash1 wrote: dear bhasker,I calculated fortuna for 5-5-55 for delhi for 11am and 6am.It came to dhanu(8th house) and tula(7th house) repectively.regardssujataDharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear tw,You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA can never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.Learned members can verify it.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Ex I, New Delhi Mob: 91-9910048040tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar,Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.Regards,tw , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear sir,> > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps moves fast so the cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.> > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even Kalamsa do not create a division

or a part or a separation but only define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.> > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members and Astro scholar may ponder.> > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> South Ex I, New Delhi > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir,> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the

natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > fortunate???//> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > falls in.> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. >

> Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its > house position in the natal

horoscope. If this could be, then every > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > +91-9910048040> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > Dear Chagantikiran> > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > your chart. The General

Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > point in the > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > kundali ,> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > time 21.38> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > account > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?>

> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > D K Bhaskar> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger>Thanks & Regards,D K BhaskarShanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New DelhiMob.: 91-9910048040 Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609

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Sorry to butt in. The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases. Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule. Good Luck yobrevol wrote: Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji, In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it. I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life. In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the

current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th. I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks. Gaurav In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes: Dear Gaurav, Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P. Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first... Also, what is the relationshipsconnections of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ? They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth. Kindly inform... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! "yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects Namaste Ramachandran ji, I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here.. Gaurav 3rd July 1979 6.18am jaipur, rajasthan In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes: Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain

in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran. On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls

in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..>

wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad

district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> See what's free at AOL.com. Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger See what's free at AOL.com. See what's free at AOL.com. Good Luck Raichur A R Bombay Tel 2506 2609 Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account

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Sir,

Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to

synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons

StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times

however much one may try, withoutshifting other

important pointers, which would shift the BT

ridiculously earlier or later.

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

>

> Sorry to butt in.

> The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated

by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers.

I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

> Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I

checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often

than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

>

> Good Luck

>

> yobrevol wrote:

> Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

>

> In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-

rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per

your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into

the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year

with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even

that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

>

> I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having

varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away

since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary

life.

>

> In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are

mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out

of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the

star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is

in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

>

> I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican

and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

>

> Gaurav

>

> In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time,

lyrastro1 writes:

> Dear Gaurav,

> Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the

sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-

lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time

correct , as per K.P.

> Are you destined to make money in the share

markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

> Also, what is the relationshipsconnections

of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

> They should signify the IInd or the XIth

or the VIth.

> Kindly inform...

> With best wishes,

> L.Y.Rao.

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> " yobrevol " <yobrevol

>

> Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM

> Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects

>

> Namaste Ramachandran ji,

>

> I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who

is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of

rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the

logic here..

>

> Gaurav

> 3rd July 1979

> 6.18am

> jaipur, rajasthan

>

> In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time,

padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

> Dear Bhaskar,

>

> There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck;

either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The

Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to

give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or

12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP

principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For

those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any

gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are

making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also

there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a

test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the

market and test out the results.

>

> V.Ramachandran.

>

> On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@

.co. in> wrote: Sir,

>

> //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the

> native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope.

If

> this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> fortunate??? //

>

> Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is

anyone

> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

source

> wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it

> falls in.

> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers

> for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not

> all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are

> Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same,

> but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

> having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes

> coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

>

> Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all

> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar

<kdbhaskar7@ ..>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

> word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

offer

> favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour

> or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its

> Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say

> that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to

its

> house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every

> person on this planet would have fortunate???

> >

> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the

> persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards

> > D K Bhaskar

> > +91-9910048040

> >

> > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote:

> > Dear Chagantikiran

> > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon -

> Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360

> then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

calculate

> the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in

> your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in

> the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> >

>

> > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:

> > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

> point in the

> > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

> kundali ,

> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> >

> > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > time 21.38

> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> >

> > Good Luck

> > Raichur A R

> > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

> > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that

> account

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check out new cars at Autos.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > D K Bhaskar

> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi

> > Mob.: 91-9910048040

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ---

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> >

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April 21, 2007

Namaste Raichur ji,

thank you for your mail, I have very very high respect for mr.Rao, just that I could not tally this method of checking correct birthtime, can you suggest other methods per KP about this...

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/21/2007 11:06:37 A.M. India Standard Time, raichurar writes:

Sorry to butt in.

The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat, stated by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned followers. I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more often than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

Good Luck

yobrevol wrote:

Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So per your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last year with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and even that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it away since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary life.

In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses are mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth. Out of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus is in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the magican and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

Gaurav

In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time, lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in writes:

Dear Gaurav,

Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's st-lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time correct , as per K.P.

Are you destined to make money in the share markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

Also, what is the relationshipsconnections of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

They should signify the IInd or the XIth or the VIth.

Kindly inform...

With best wishes,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

"yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com" <yobrevol (AT) aol (DOT) com> Sent: Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PMRe: Re: Fortuna and its effects

Namaste Ramachandran ji,

I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted, who is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is the logic here..

Gaurav

3rd July 1979

6.18am

jaipur, rajasthan

In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time, padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

Dear Bhaskar,There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their luck; either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act to give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear KP principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems. For those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who are making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and also there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As a test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the market and test out the results.V.Ramachandran.

On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:

Sir,//It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate??? //Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is anyoneunforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it falls in.This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart forsuch inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after allderived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.regards,Bhaskar.@gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@. ..> wrote:>> Dear All,> > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every person on this planet would have fortunate???> > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to calculate their Fortuna by formula:> Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > Thanks & Regards> D K Bhaskar> +91-9910048040> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@.. .> wrote: > Dear Chagantikiran> The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - Long of sun +Long of ASC)> the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> >

> chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:> Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna point in the > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my kundali ,> and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > MY Dob 31/12/1976> time 21.38> place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > > > Good Luck > Raichur A R > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that account > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> D K Bhaskar> Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger>

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April 21, 2007

Dear mr raichur,The formula for fortuna has no mention of tithi.Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Sujata What was the tithi (moon-sun) at these two times ? If tithi has changed, then the positon of fortuna also changes. sujata das <sujatadash1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: dear bhasker,I calculated fortuna

for 5-5-55 for delhi for 11am and 6am.It came to dhanu(8th house) and tula(7th house) repectively.regardssujataDharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear tw,You are a senior member, always check before writting. FORTUNA can never change in a day but it changes only in 2 + 1/4 days. In the case quoted Pars Fortuna or simply Fortuna was in 12th house from 15/07/1947 04:15AM to 18/07/1947 21:30PM.Learned

members can verify it.Thanks & RegardsD K BhaskarSouth Ex I, New Delhi Mob: 91-9910048040tw853 <tw853 > wrote: Dear D K Bhaskar,Fortuna position can change within a day, for example of Camilla Parker-Bowles (17/07/1947, 07:10 GMT, 51N30, 00W10) Fortuna is in 12th and will move to 1st if DOB is changed to July 18.Regards,tw , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7 wrote:>> Dear sir,> > I would like to draw attention that KP system is preferred due to its accuracy for the individuality by reducing the time gap through the intersection of Nakshtra into Sub or SS. The reading done by Rasi chart worried MR. K. S. K. and he propounded that Rasi chart changes slowly- means the planetary positions are not going to changes within a couple of days, except Moon. He not stopped to the Moon chart or ascendant chart but said that cusps

moves fast so the cuspal chart is true horoscope so that twins can also be differentiated which is not common with other school of thoughts.> > Without mentioning the learned author name, I want to write few lines from the book: 'Sub divisions of the Sign, Nakshtra or even Kalamsa do not create a division or a part or a separation but only define the position of the planet or a cusp as accurately as possible. The smaller the division, the greater is its impact in delineating the nativity in more specific terms. Creation of Verga Charts is a dichotomy, and an illusion.> > The fortuna moves slow. The native born within a span of 2 and 1/4 days (approx. 54 hours)- all having their FORTUNA in the same house/cusp - how could it be claimed to say that all newly born are fortunate in the same specific area/aspect of life. Learned members and Astro scholar may ponder.> > Thanks &

Regards> D K Bhaskar> South Ex I, New Delhi > Mob: 91-9910048040> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Sir,> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to the > native with respect to its house position in the natal horoscope. If > this could be, then every person on this planet would have > fortunate???//> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments,neither is anyone> unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the source > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house it > falls in.> This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for pointers > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and not > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons are >

Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the same, > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in > having a good younger brother,while others may have their fortunes > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp. > > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for> such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all> derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > , Dharmendra Kumar <kdbhaskar7@> > wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will offer >

favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause favour > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of its > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to say > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to its > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then every > person on this planet would have fortunate???> > > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for the > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to > calculate their Fortuna by formula:> > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards> > D K Bhaskar> > +91-9910048040> > > > > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote: > > Dear Chagantikiran> > The formula for

calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of Moon - > Long of sun +Long of ASC)> > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than 360 > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can calculate > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house in > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky) in > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.> > > > > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@> wrote:> > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna > point in the > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my > kundali ,> > and what are its effects,on my career and income .> > > > MY Dob 31/12/1976> > time 21.38> > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Good Luck > > Raichur A R > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609 > > Do not use anant_1608 @ I have closed that > account > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > Check out new cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > D K Bhaskar> > Shanti Kunj, 60, Amrit Nagar, South Extn. Part - I, New Delhi> > Mob.: 91-9910048040> > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on

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April 21, 2007

Dear Friend,

In my eagerness to improve my ability to correct

birth times , several times I tried to line up the star lord sub

lord and the new fangled idea of Sub-sub lord of the Lagna with the

Moon's dittos. Regrettally,often it was not possible to do so,

without making huge shifts in birth times.

I have now accepted the idea of sticking to sub

levels only. at the same time comparing RP Moon's dittos with lagna

dittos.This is more comforting.

As counter check I use the Navamsa-Dwadasamsa

method.

Refinements should not destroy the essence,where we

mix up trees for the woods.

Please be advised, I am not desiring to enter into

a duel, I am comfortable with my level of " accuracy " .There are

better astrologers than me in this Universe.

Regards,

Satish

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> Thats true. Because at times it is not possible to

> synchronise the Asc. SL and SSL to the Moons

> StL and SL. It is just not possible at few times

> however much one may try, withoutshifting other

> important pointers, which would shift the BT

> ridiculously earlier or later.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> , Raichur-a-r <raichurar@> wrote:

> >

> > Sorry to butt in.

> > The rule quoted by the learned L.Y.Rao, is not,I repeat,

stated

> by Late KSK, but has been formulated, later by his learned

followers.

> I have not found that it works in 100 percent cases.

> > Kanak examined 100 charts, where the TOB was authentic, and I

> checked some for this rule also. The authetic Birth times, more

often

> than not, didi not satisfy this rule.

> >

> > Good Luck

> >

> > yobrevol@ wrote:

> > Namaste Sri.L.Y.Rao ji,

> >

> > In my case, the sub-lord and sub-sub-lord for my lagna is mer-

> rahu and the star-lord and sub-lord of my moon is moon-rahu. So

per

> your statement it is incorrect. However, I then tried to look into

> the chart of my daughter who was born in the hospital room last

year

> with me standing with a stop watch to time her birth-time, and

even

> that does not tally..so I am not sure what to make of it.

> >

> > I do concede that a famous astrologer did suggest me having

> varogottama navamsa lagna as oppose to Taurus, but I brushed it

away

> since that makes my chart too powerful to live a rather ordinary

> life.

> >

> > In any event, the star lord of 2nd, 5th, 6th, and 11th houses

are

> mer, jup, mer, venus respectively with the current time of birth.

Out

> of these, mer and jup are tenants in the 2nd house, and mer is the

> star lord of jupiter, posited with exalted jupiter in 2nd. Venus

is

> in the star of mars who is the lord of 6th and 11th in 12th.

> >

> > I leave herein for your further insight, and you are the

magican

> and I am merely an observer eager to learn the tricks.

> >

> > Gaurav

> >

> > In a message dated 4/17/2007 8:28:58 P.M. India Standard Time,

> lyrastro1@ writes:

> > Dear Gaurav,

> > Sorry for butting-in...Firstly, does the

> sub-lord and sub-sub lord of your Ascendant appear as the Moon's

st-

> lord and sub-lord respectively ? Only then is your Birth Time

> correct , as per K.P.

> > Are you destined to make money in the

share

> markets at all ? This needs to be examined first...

> > Also, what is the

relationshipsconnections

> of the s/lords of the IInd,Vth,VIth & XIth cusps ?

> > They should signify the IInd or the XIth

> or the VIth.

> > Kindly inform...

> > With best wishes,

> > L.Y.Rao.

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> > " yobrevol@ " <yobrevol@>

> >

> > Tuesday, 17 April, 2007 3:33:45 PM

> > Re: Re: Fortuna and its effects

> >

> > Namaste Ramachandran ji,

> >

> > I have strong lagna lord in 2nd house with jupiter exalted,

who

> is also in LL nakshatra and sub, yet I have lost many many lacs of

> rupees ( in dollars) last 3-4 weeks in stock market..why? what is

the

> logic here..

> >

> > Gaurav

> > 3rd July 1979

> > 6.18am

> > jaipur, rajasthan

> >

> > In a message dated 4/17/2007 1:35:58 A.M. India Standard Time,

> padma.ramachandran@ gmail.com writes:

> > Dear Bhaskar,

> >

> > There is a simple logic to all those who want to check their

luck;

> either through fortuna or through Gems or through stock market.The

> Lagna Lord must be strong and signify those houses which will act

to

> give you wealth. If the Lagna Lord is weak with connection to 8 or

> 12, no amount of gimmicks will produce any wealth. This is a clear

KP

> principle.Let us not deviate our attention with fortuna and gems.

For

> those who have weak lagna lord, even the horary will not show any

> gain from stock market. I personally think that your Clients who

are

> making money in the market must be having strong lagna lord.and

also

> there must be a sure sign of involvement of 5th with the 11th. As

a

> test, you predict for a chart with weak lagna lord a gain in the

> market and test out the results.

> >

> > V.Ramachandran.

> >

> > On 15 Apr 2007 22:53:40 -0700, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@

> .co. in> wrote: Sir,

> >

> > //It is ridiculous to say that fortuna always brings fortune to

the

> > native with respect to its house position in the natal

horoscope.

> If

> > this could be, then every person on this planet would have

> > fortunate??? //

> >

> > Nobody in the world is fortunate in all departments, neither is

> anyone

> > unforunate in all departments. The Fortuna is the clue to the

> source

> > wherein the Fortune of the native lies depending on which house

it

> > falls in.

> > This is a position in the natal chart wherein we look for

pointers

> > for the person being fortunate in certain speheres of life and

not

> > all which is general commons sense.. For example some persons

are

> > Fortunate as advising astrologers and may be very good in the

same,

> > but may not be good in earning good money. Some are fortunate in

> > having a good younger brother,while others may have their

fortunes

> > coming in through the wife after marriage, in whose charts the

> > Fortuna lies in the 7th Cusp.

> >

> > Thus the fortuna does provide the clue in the Natal Chart for

> > such inputs. We should not forget that the Kp system is after all

> > derived from the Milk which is Parashar Vedic Astrology.

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > @gro ups.com, Dharmendra Kumar

> <kdbhaskar7@ ..>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > As I have already mentioned that do not get confused with the

> > word 'FORTUNA'. Its not necessary that every time fortuna will

> offer

> > favourable results where it is located, rather it may cause

favour

> > or detrimental according to the cuspal position of star lord of

its

> > Sub sub lord and supported by Sub/Sub sub. It is ridiculous to

say

> > that fortuna always brings fortune to the native with respect to

> its

> > house position in the natal horoscope. If this could be, then

every

> > person on this planet would have fortunate???

> > >

> > > The below formula is only applicable to the day birth but for

the

> > persons who are born after Sunset and before Sunrise have to

> > calculate their Fortuna by formula:

> > > Long of Sun - Long of Moon + Long of Asc.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards

> > > D K Bhaskar

> > > +91-9910048040

> > >

> > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar@ .> wrote:

> > > Dear Chagantikiran

> > > The formula for calculating positon of Fortuna is (Long of

Moon -

> > Long of sun +Long of ASC)

> > > the long are in degree min sec. If this result is more than

360

> > then deduct 360. Once you get the long of Fortuna, you can

> calculate

> > the Sign, degree, min ,sec. You can then place it in the house

in

> > your chart. The General Rule is that you will FORTUNATE (Lucky)

in

> > the matters signified by the House, where fortuna is found.

> > >

> >

> > > chagantikiran <chagantikiran@ ...> wrote:

> > > Dear Astrologers , i saw the discussion about the fortuna

> > point in the

> > > group , can anybody tell me where the point is situated in my

> > kundali ,

> > > and what are its effects,on my career and income .

> > >

> > > MY Dob 31/12/1976

> > > time 21.38

> > > place mancherial , adilabad district(AP)

> > >

> > > Good Luck

> > > Raichur A R

> > > Bombay Tel 2506 2609

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> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > D K Bhaskar

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