Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Thats better. (And dont tell anybody. This is the only place I use this form of address) Bhaskar. , " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote: > > > Ok I will not call you Uncle Ji until you are an old man. But you can continue to call me Ji if you wish as I am already used to by now since this is the only please I get to hear it. > > Vidya > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Okay Vidya Got it. Yes but mujhe Uncle ji mat kahna. Bata doonga jab kahna hoga tab. (When I turn about 75 tab sochenge) > > > > I am also very young. However young you may be. > > > > And with ladies around I always feel younger.... > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Call me " Ji " one more time and I will call you as " Uncle Ji " only!! Unless you call me " Ji " as a sign of respect don't say it otherwise. While you may be young in heart, spirit, and age I am still much younger to you.:-) > > > > > > Ok on more serious notes my purpose of my previous post was to show one reason why Jupiter gets exalted in cancer. > > > Vidya > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Kidhar se kuch bhi jod dete hain aap Vidya ji. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I read somewhere in the shastra's that the gopis use to get up early in the morning and worship mother " Jagdama Mata " to get a good husband. Notice Jupiter(karak for husband) gets exalted in the sign of cancer( mother.. > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Some co-incidence. Jup and Venus, both Guru-s, gets exalted > > > > > > in watery signs. One in a calm water (cancer) and other in Ocean !! > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Chakraborty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swami Roopam Pandit ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40\ groups.com>, " swamiroopam " <swamiroopam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Swami Roopam pandit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Chakrabortyji, No doubt about it,Jupiter is " Guru " and people goes to learn at the place of Guru,at his residence or Asharm so all knowledge will get at residence of Guru and if Guru is not there than their is no knowledge.Moon is control the mind and if Guru is occupied the house of Moon than he exhibit his all abilities.So Jupiter exalted in Cancer sign. Thanks, M.S.Bohra , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar-ji, > > It (the slip of pen..errr. typo) was understood. > > In the similar fashion, can it be said that ....... > > The Purohit (Jup) gets exalted in 'Home' ? > > regards > > Chakraborty > > > ________________________________ > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:12 PM > > Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > > Sorry, Read the last line as, > > Hence Venus gets Exalted here. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > --- In <%40\ groups.com>, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Venus is the karaka of Love. > > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? > > > > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to > > real hard facts. > > > > I repeat- > > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? > > > > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union. > > > > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ? > > > > Answer -The 12th House. > > > > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ? > > > > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter. > > > > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here. > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 manoj jipisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha sthana ....the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in Abhishek Bacchans chart ...--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: Venus and JupiterTo: Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji, Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) . Regards, -Manoj Vidya <vidyakmr >ancient_indian_ astrologySun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter Dear Deep Ji,You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. ThanksVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > regards> deep> > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Samdhees? That's interesting!> > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > >> > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > inimical to GURU.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > >> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)> > > >> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I> > > > know? ;-)> > > >> > > > Rohiniranjan> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,> > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > >> > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Wah kya baat hai. Logon ke views padh kar anand aa raha hai. , " Sudan " <msbohra62 wrote: > > Dear Chakrabortyji, > > No doubt about it,Jupiter is " Guru " and people goes to learn at the place of Guru,at his residence or Asharm so all knowledge will get at residence of Guru and if Guru is not there than their is no knowledge.Moon is control the mind and if Guru is occupied the house of Moon than he exhibit his all abilities.So Jupiter exalted in Cancer sign. > > Thanks, > > M.S.Bohra > > , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar-ji, > > > > It (the slip of pen..errr. typo) was understood. > > > > In the similar fashion, can it be said that ....... > > > > The Purohit (Jup) gets exalted in 'Home' ? > > > > regards > > > > Chakraborty > > > > > > ________________________________ > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:12 PM > > > > Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > > > > > > Sorry, Read the last line as, > > > > Hence Venus gets Exalted here. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > --- In <%40\ groups.com>, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > Venus is the karaka of Love. > > > > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? > > > > > > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to > > > real hard facts. > > > > > > I repeat- > > > > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? > > > > > > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union. > > > > > > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ? > > > > > > Answer -The 12th House. > > > > > > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ? > > > > > > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter. > > > > > > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here. > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Learned Members, Here is some more thoughts on Venus and Jupiter!!Venus becomes Combust, Thursday, December 17, as it gets within 6 degrees of the Sun, i.e., the planet is so close to the Sun we cannot see it. The significations of Venus will be "burnt up" for the next several weeks. Venus is one of the planets of Guidance (the other is Jupiter) and when we can't see it, we are "without guidance", i.e., it is a poor time for making informed decisions. Venus will reappear in the West as the "evening star" in February.Jupiter enters Aquarius on Saturday, December 19. The planet of Wisdom and Faith in the sign of the Humanitarian is considered hopeful for Social Reforms for the next four and 1/2 months. But while changing signs, Jupiter is weak, and will also be exactly conjunct Neptune in the Heavens. Although Idealism is High, so is Illusion, leading to Unrealistic Expectations. Since the other planet of Guidance, Venus, is also weakened, and the energy of the New Moon is compromised, December is a very bad time for initiating any important new endeavor.Vidya , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Wah kya baat hai. Logon ke views padh kar anand aa raha hai.> > , "Sudan" msbohra62@ wrote:> >> > Dear Chakrabortyji,> > > > No doubt about it,Jupiter is "Guru" and people goes to learn at the place of Guru,at his residence or Asharm so all knowledge will get at residence of Guru and if Guru is not there than their is no knowledge.Moon is control the mind and if Guru is occupied the house of Moon than he exhibit his all abilities.So Jupiter exalted in Cancer sign.> > > > Thanks,> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar-ji,> > > > > > It (the slip of pen..errr. typo) was understood.> > > > > > In the similar fashion, can it be said that .......> > > > > > The Purohit (Jup) gets exalted in 'Home' ?> > > > > > regards> > > > > > Chakraborty> > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:12 PM> > > > > > Re: Venus and Jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Read the last line as,> > > > > > Hence Venus gets Exalted here.> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > <%40>, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends,> > > >> > > > Venus is the karaka of Love.> > > >> > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?> > > >> > > > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to> > > > real hard facts.> > > >> > > > I repeat-> > > >> > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?> > > >> > > > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union.> > > >> > > > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ?> > > >> > > > Answer -The 12th House.> > > >> > > > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ?> > > >> > > > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter.> > > >> > > > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Dear Sir and Madam Ji, //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)// If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's? Regards, Vidya , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Dear B. Bhai > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-) > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Vidya_jee, Perhaps -- they would be just " human! " :-) , " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote: > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji, > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)// > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's? > > Regards, > Vidya > > , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Deepen Ji, Any body (even if he has a big B in his last name) who has Venus in 12H, in Pisces, IF afflicted by Saturn/Rahu AND IF Venus has very low BAV AND IF 12H has low SAV AND IF he runs Venus Dasha, Venusian problems can be expected. 12H denotes Moksha AND Bed Pleasures. Want to hazard a guess which attribute an Afflicted Venus in Pisces will promote? Similar situation also exists with Jupiter in Libra. Regards, -Manoj deepen thakkar <justcoolout Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 12:14:38 PMRe: Re: Venus and Jupiter manoj jipisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha sthana ....the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in Abhishek Bacchans chart ...--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiterancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji, Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) . Regards, -Manoj Vidya <vidyakmr >ancient_indian_ astrologySun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter Dear Deep Ji,You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. ThanksVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > regards> deep> > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Samdhees? That's interesting!> > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > >> > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > inimical to GURU.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > >> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)> > > >> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I> > > > know? ;-)> > > >> > > > Rohiniranjan> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,> > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > >> > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Thakkar_jee, Namastay and pardon me for jumping in! I have just joined this wonderful and vibrant forum and am still trying to get from " point A " to 'point B' and so on! It is 'deja-vu' in a sense (so many familiar names and faces that bring back such wonderful memories and recollections!) and yet one must drive carefully when in a new city! Manoj_ji did use the very IMPORTANT caveat: <<(ofcourse with other afflictions)>> (<<...>> is what is used in the French language instead of " ... " when quoting, by the way). 'Pisces the sign of mystics' is indeed very intriguing. I hope I am not waxing poetical but in a chart, it represents the 'Bhanwaar' perhaps (afflictions just make the experience more difficult!). A Bhanwaar (reminds me of the hindi movie: MILAN!) is essentially a watery grave! Very negative and as if the River wants to suck into its core whatever it gave or produced forth earlier! For some strange reason, I have always felt that a Bhanwaar/Whirlpool is in some sense the ANTONYM of Samudra Manthan! In the realm of DUALITY in which most of us humans exist, work in and rest in -- what is received must then be given back! What the Ocean once gave must never become a possession for it was but a GIFT and must always be returned and given back to the rightful owner -- The OCEAN in this case. Perhaps that is why Pisces is worthy of our attention! And since we jyotishis are not encumbered by 'intercepted signs' although they exist in Jyotish as well but in a different context -- each chart has Pisces in it, the 12th house of Kalapurusha! Worthy of note for it is the last door, symbolically-speaking! But then Astrology, just like any other LANGUAGE is about symbols, is it not? In any language, the characters and words enjoy immediate recognition and engage the 'thoughts' and ideas! But ONLY to those who can READ and UNDERSTAND the language! My apologies for a long-winded post from a newcomer, who has no clue how this metropolis is organized and I hope I did not park my car in the wrong place and may get a ticket! Warm Regards, Rohiniranjan , deepen thakkar <justcoolout wrote: > > manoj ji > pisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha sthana .... > the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in Abhishek Bacchans chart ... > > > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj > Re: Re: Venus and Jupiter > > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM >  > > > > Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji, >  > Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the " negative " sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) . >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  Vidya <vidyakmr > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter > >  > > Dear Deep Ji, > > You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. Thanks > > Vidya > > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > > > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the " garbha " of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always > asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge.. > > > > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always.. > > > > regards > > deep > > > > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air! > > > > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships) > > > > > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!! > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations. > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Samdhees? That's interesting! > > > > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great > > > > > benefics do they club together for a cause? > > > > > > > > > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is > > > > > inimical to GURU. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent > > > > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I > > > > > > know? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>, > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > > > > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > > > > > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > > > > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > > > > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > > > > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > > > > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Did you know that the original 'family name/surname' of the Bachchans was Srivastava? :-) , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Deepen Ji, > > Any body (even if he has a big B in his last name) who has Venus in 12H, in Pisces, IF afflicted by Saturn/Rahu AND IF Venus has very low BAV AND IF 12H has low SAV AND IF he runs Venus Dasha, Venusian problems can be expected. 12H denotes Moksha AND Bed Pleasures. Want to hazard a guess which attribute an Afflicted Venus in Pisces will promote? > > Similar situation also exists with Jupiter in Libra. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > deepen thakkar <justcoolout > > Sun, December 13, 2009 12:14:38 PM > Re: Re: Venus and Jupiter > >  > manoj ji > pisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha sthana .... > the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in Abhishek Bacchans chart ... > > > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > >Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > >Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji, > > > >Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the " negative " sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) . > > > >Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Vidya <vidyakmr > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > > > >Dear Deep Ji, > > > >You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. Thanks > > > >Vidya > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Bhaskarji > >> > >> Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the " garbha " of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge.. > >> > >> Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always.. > >> > >> regards > >> deep > >> > >> --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > >> > >> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> > >> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter > >> ancient_indian_ astrology > >> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>  > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji, > >> > >> May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air! > >> > >> There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships) > >> > >> > >> Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!! > >> > >> Regards > >> Neelam > >> > >> > >> 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>  > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations. > >> > >> > >> > >> regards/Bhaskar. > >> > >> > >> > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Samdhees? That's interesting! > >> > >> > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great > >> > >> > benefics do they club together for a cause? > >> > >> > > >> > >> > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is > >> > >> > inimical to GURU. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Regards > >> > >> > Neelam > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Dear B. Bhai > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent > >> > >> > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I > >> > >> > > know? ;-) > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > Rohiniranjan > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>, > >> > >> > >> > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > Dear Friends, > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > >> > >> > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > >> > >> > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > >> > >> > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > >> > >> > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > >> > >> > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > >> > >> > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar. > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > >> > > > > > > ________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Just in lite mood enjoy it ! , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Wah kya baat hai. Logon ke views padh kar anand aa raha hai. > > , " Sudan " <msbohra62@> wrote: > > > > Dear Chakrabortyji, > > > > No doubt about it,Jupiter is " Guru " and people goes to learn at the place of Guru,at his residence or Asharm so all knowledge will get at residence of Guru and if Guru is not there than their is no knowledge.Moon is control the mind and if Guru is occupied the house of Moon than he exhibit his all abilities.So Jupiter exalted in Cancer sign. > > > > Thanks, > > > > M.S.Bohra > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar-ji, > > > > > > It (the slip of pen..errr. typo) was understood. > > > > > > In the similar fashion, can it be said that ....... > > > > > > The Purohit (Jup) gets exalted in 'Home' ? > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Chakraborty > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:12 PM > > > > > > Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Read the last line as, > > > > > > Hence Venus gets Exalted here. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > --- In <%40\ groups.com>, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > > > > > > > Venus is the karaka of Love. > > > > > > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? > > > > > > > > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to > > > > real hard facts. > > > > > > > > I repeat- > > > > > > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? > > > > > > > > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union. > > > > > > > > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ? > > > > > > > > Answer -The 12th House. > > > > > > > > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ? > > > > > > > > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter. > > > > > > > > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Vidya, Did you mean " during " ? Because you did not mention anything about the divorce -- in the second example you spoke about! Also, you taught me today that Rahu has an '8th' aspect like mars! Rohiniranjan <<NB: Please note that I have dropped the 'ji' as per your 'nok-jhonk' with Bhaskar Bhai -- even though I have three wonderful Bhatijees already but there is always room for more daughters in Jyotish ...>> , " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote: > > Dear Manoj Ji, > > You maybe right about the affliction part as I personally came to know 2 people with exalted Venus. > First person has Venus exalted in Lagna with moon's aspect from 7th house and has no affliction to Venus. He is 32 years of age and actually a very pious, dharmic man but he is still struggling to find a wife with " good character " . Must be a hard thing in this day and age. > > The 2nd person has exalted Venus in 11th house but with rahu's malefic aspects from 4th house. He is married but very unhappy in marriage..He's had several other failed relationship in life before and after marriage. > > Regards > Vidya > > > , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji, > > > > Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the " negative " sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions). > >  > > Regards, > >  -Manoj > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Vidya <vidyakmr@> > > > > Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM > > Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > >  > > Dear Deep Ji, > > > > You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. Thanks > > > > Vidya > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > > > > > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the " garbha " of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge.. > > > > > > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always.. > > > > > > regards > > > deep > > > > > > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air! > > > > > > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships) > > > > > > > > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Samdhees? That's interesting! > > > > > > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great > > > > > > > benefics do they club together for a cause? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is > > > > > > > inimical to GURU. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent > > > > > > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I > > > > > > > > know? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>, > > > > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > > > > > > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > > > > > > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > > > > > > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > > > > > > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > > > > > > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > > > > > > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want every posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ? , " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote: > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji, > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)// > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's? > > Regards, > Vidya > > , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Welcome back B. bhai-saheb! I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into this Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere apologies, of course!...) SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as she was when she lived here with her parents! Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but Fathers and Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or whatever! Or maybe it is! Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is always on her case from the 12th from 5th? Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising Rupee or the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what will happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would be the result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal? While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless details such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my children have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the school does not call AGAIN! Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers and Directors and what not! Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE! VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!' You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes and oversight can get tricky and even dangerous! VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some of the most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread running through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED! Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a wrong way! Rohiniranjan , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want every posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ? > > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji, > > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)// > > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's? > > > > Regards, > > Vidya > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-) > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Dear Shri RR ji, With no Ma near one, this world looks like just a stopover for time, some. With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife, satisfying becomes ones Life. Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone, their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome. For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel, they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel. The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them, if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them. Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan " I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan who keeps close to her heart my little one The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan " she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan. But is not this what Life must be ? Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ? regards, Bhaskar. , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Welcome back B. bhai-saheb! > > I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into this Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere apologies, of course!...) > > SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect > > SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as she was when she lived here with her parents! > > Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but Fathers and Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or whatever! Or maybe it is! > > Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is always on her case from the 12th from 5th? > > Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising Rupee or the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what will happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would be the result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal? > > While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless details such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my children have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the school does not call AGAIN! > > Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers and Directors and what not! > > Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE! > > VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!' > > You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes and oversight can get tricky and even dangerous! > > VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some of the most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread running through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED! > > Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a wrong way! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want every posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ? > > > > > > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji, > > > > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)// > > > > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Vidya > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 EGGs-ACT-lie! :-) And we did not even have to change from English to another language! RR_, , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri RR ji, > > With no Ma near one, > this world looks like just a stopover for time, some. > > With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife, satisfying becomes ones Life. > > Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone, > their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome. > > For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel, > they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel. > > The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them, > if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them. > > Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan > Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan " > > I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan > who keeps close to her heart my little one > > The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan " > she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan. > > But is not this what Life must be ? > Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ? > > regards, > Bhaskar. > , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > Welcome back B. bhai-saheb! > > > > I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into this Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere apologies, of course!...) > > > > SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect > > > > SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as she was when she lived here with her parents! > > > > Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but Fathers and Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or whatever! Or maybe it is! > > > > Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is always on her case from the 12th from 5th? > > > > Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising Rupee or the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what will happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would be the result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal? > > > > While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless details such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my children have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the school does not call AGAIN! > > > > Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers and Directors and what not! > > > > Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE! > > > > VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!' > > > > You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes and oversight can get tricky and even dangerous! > > > > VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some of the most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread running through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED! > > > > Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a wrong way! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want every posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ? > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji, > > > > > > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)// > > > > > > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Thanks for such interesting discussions B-ji and R-ji,If I may add some astrology, please provide some samadhaan to it!Samdhan ji shares my second house and aptly so, as the beti-dhan is shared with her and beti augments the dhan with her karma. Samdhee ji sits in my 7H to actually become my alternate self for the child!So far so good.... but both stay in maraksthanas for me! In Indian context, see how a daughter's parents die a thousand deaths every day and pray for her happiness! For that matter even Son's in canging times!What a Rishta of Marakas:-)RegardsNeelam2009/12/14 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Dear Shri RR ji, With no Ma near one, this world looks like just a stopover for time, some. With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife, satisfying becomes ones Life. Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone, their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome. For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel, they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel. The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them, if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them. Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan " I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan who keeps close to her heart my little one The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan " she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan. But is not this what Life must be ? Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ? regards, Bhaskar. , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan wrote: > > Welcome back B. bhai-saheb! > > I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into this Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere apologies, of course!...) > > SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect > > SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as she was when she lived here with her parents! > > Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but Fathers and Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or whatever! Or maybe it is! > > Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is always on her case from the 12th from 5th? > > Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising Rupee or the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what will happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would be the result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal? > > While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless details such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my children have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the school does not call AGAIN! > > Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers and Directors and what not! > > Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE! > > VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!' > > You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes and oversight can get tricky and even dangerous! > > VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some of the most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread running through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED! > > Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a wrong way! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want every posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ? > > > > > > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji, > > > > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)// > > > > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Vidya > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Hello Neelam ji, See you may trot the Globe if you wish to. Do not take me along. I do not have so much money to accompany you and remain respectfully so. 2nd House for Samadhan ? - Eh ! So much brains I had to excersise to understand this. I had to keep a horoscope in front of me. Then check how could this be. I had to first think from where to start. It clicked that I must begin from the 5th, then the 7th from the 5th and then the 4th from it. So much brainwork I am not accustomed to. I do not have so much brains. Only Shri RR ji can match this much brainwork. Not me. Cheers. Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Thanks for such interesting discussions B-ji and R-ji, > > If I may add some astrology, please provide some samadhaan to it! > > Samdhan ji shares my second house and aptly so, as the beti-dhan is shared > with her and beti augments the dhan with her karma. > Samdhee ji sits in my 7H to actually become my alternate self for the child! > > So far so good.... but both stay in maraksthanas for me! In Indian context, > see how a daughter's parents die a thousand deaths every day and pray for > her happiness! > For that matter even Son's in canging times! > > What a Rishta of Marakas:-) > > Regards > Neelam > > > 2009/12/14 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > > > > > > Dear Shri RR ji, > > > > With no Ma near one, > > this world looks like just a stopover for time, some. > > > > With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife, satisfying > > becomes ones Life. > > > > Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone, > > their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome. > > > > For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel, > > they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel. > > > > The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them, > > if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them. > > > > Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan > > Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan " > > > > I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan > > who keeps close to her heart my little one > > > > The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan " > > she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan. > > > > But is not this what Life must be ? > > Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ? > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > " rohinicrystal " rohini_ranjan@ wrote: > > > > > > Welcome back B. bhai-saheb! > > > > > > I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into this > > Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere apologies, of > > course!...) > > > > > > SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect > > > > > > SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a > > prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as she was > > when she lived here with her parents! > > > > > > Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but Fathers and > > Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or whatever! > > Or maybe it is! > > > > > > Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is always > > on her case from the 12th from 5th? > > > > > > Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the > > Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising Rupee or > > the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what will > > happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would be the > > result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal? > > > > > > While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless details > > such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my children > > have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the school does > > not call AGAIN! > > > > > > Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers ands and > > what not! > > > > > > Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE! > > > > > > VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!' > > > > > > You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes and > > oversight can get tricky and even dangerous! > > > > > > VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some of the > > most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread running > > through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED! > > > > > > Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a wrong > > way! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want > > every posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate > > " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to > > explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, > > but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I > > could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)// > > > > > > > > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have > > created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from > > opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What > > kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who > > were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! > > What do I know? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 dear shri deep, An apt answer/explanation for Venus getting exalted in Pisces. Only correction is Venus is getting debilitated in Virgo and not Jupiter. the continuation msg in that para looks as though Guru getting debilitated in virgo which of course u dont mean that. regards, k.goou --- On Sun, 12/13/09, deepen thakkar <justcoolout wrote: deepen thakkar <justcoolout Re: Venus and Jupiter Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 7:17 PM Dear BhaskarjiVenus is the love god and is always interested in uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..regards deep Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Rahu in 4th aspecting venus in 11th ? is this what u meant ?Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Vidya <vidyakmr wrote: Vidya <vidyakmr Re: Venus and Jupiter Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:51 PM Dear Manoj Ji,You maybe right about the affliction part as I personally came to know 2 people with exalted Venus. First person has Venus exalted in Lagna with moon's aspect from 7th house and has no affliction to Venus. He is 32 years of age and actually a very pious, dharmic man but he is still struggling to find a wife with "good character". Must be a hard thing in this day and age. The 2nd person has exalted Venus in 11th house but with rahu's malefic aspects from 4th house. He is married but very unhappy in marriage..He' s had several other failed relationship in life before and after marriage.RegardsVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji,> > Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) .>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Vidya <vidyakmr@.. .>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> >  > Dear Deep Ji,> > You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. Thanks> > Vidya> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji> > > > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > > > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > > > regards> > deep> > > > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > > > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > > > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > > > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations.> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Samdhees? That's interesting!> > > > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > > > >> > > > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > > > inimical to GURU.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Neelam> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > > > >> > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)> > > > > >> > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I> > > > > > know? ;-)> > > > > >> > > > > > Rohiniranjan> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,> > > > > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Dear B._ji No I cannot! I have not married of any of my children (only attended marriages of 2/3 of my bhatiejees!). If I recall correctly, you lead this pack --SIR, in that sense because you have actually done it -- hence I for one would wait for you to share with us what being the " Father of a Bride " was like! I have kinda sorta known you for a few years now and hence I cheekily pose the question stated above and I have known in the same way some of the other jyotishis that exist on Internet, as well! Who I would rather not ASK similar questions because they are not YOU! You are all wonderful, of course -- worthy of being listened to and being worthy of SIMRAN! , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Hello Neelam ji, > > See you may trot the Globe if you wish to. Do not take me along. I do > not have so much money to accompany you and remain respectfully so. > > 2nd House for Samadhan ? - Eh ! So much brains I had to excersise to > understand this. I had to keep a horoscope in front of me. Then check > how could this be. I had to first think from where to start. It clicked > that I must begin from the 5th, then the 7th from the 5th and then the > 4th from it. So much brainwork I am not accustomed to. I do not have > so much brains. > > Only Shri RR ji can match this much brainwork. Not me. > > Cheers. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > Thanks for such interesting discussions B-ji and R-ji, > > > > If I may add some astrology, please provide some samadhaan to it! > > > > Samdhan ji shares my second house and aptly so, as the beti-dhan is > shared > > with her and beti augments the dhan with her karma. > > Samdhee ji sits in my 7H to actually become my alternate self for the > child! > > > > So far so good.... but both stay in maraksthanas for me! In Indian > context, > > see how a daughter's parents die a thousand deaths every day and pray > for > > her happiness! > > For that matter even Son's in canging times! > > > > What a Rishta of Marakas:-) > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/12/14 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri RR ji, > > > > > > With no Ma near one, > > > this world looks like just a stopover for time, some. > > > > > > With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife, > satisfying > > > becomes ones Life. > > > > > > Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone, > > > their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome. > > > > > > For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel, > > > they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel. > > > > > > The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them, > > > if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them. > > > > > > Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan > > > Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan " > > > > > > I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan > > > who keeps close to her heart my little one > > > > > > The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan " > > > she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan. > > > > > > But is not this what Life must be ? > > > Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ? > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40yaho\ > ogroups.com>, > > > " rohinicrystal " rohini_ranjan@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Welcome back B. bhai-saheb! > > > > > > > > I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into > this > > > Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere > apologies, of > > > course!...) > > > > > > > > SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect > > > > > > > > SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a > > > prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as > she was > > > when she lived here with her parents! > > > > > > > > Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but > Fathers and > > > Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or > whatever! > > > Or maybe it is! > > > > > > > > Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is > always > > > on her case from the 12th from 5th? > > > > > > > > Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the > > > Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising > Rupee or > > > the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what > will > > > happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would > be the > > > result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal? > > > > > > > > While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless > details > > > such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my > children > > > have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the > school does > > > not call AGAIN! > > > > > > > > Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers and > Directors and > > > what not! > > > > > > > > Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE! > > > > > > > > VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!' > > > > > > > > You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes > and > > > oversight can get tricky and even dangerous! > > > > > > > > VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some > of the > > > most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread > running > > > through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED! > > > > > > > > Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a > wrong > > > way! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40yaho\ > ogroups.com>, > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who > want > > > every posting to be written in English language, asked us to > translate > > > " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in > entirety to > > > explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40yaho\ > ogroups.com>, > > > " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or > Brihaspati, > > > but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of > course I > > > could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)// > > > > > > > > > > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not > have > > > created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they > are from > > > opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata > gunas.. What > > > kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of > sanskara's? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > <%40yaho\ > ogroups.com>, > > > " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children > who > > > were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be > entirely wrong! > > > What do I know? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Dear Deepenji,Just a thought. If Ju as the 12th lord signifying all that you said lord and as 9th lord of the natural zodiac signifying guru,dharma etcc, is situated in 5th house, another dharma house signifying children, would it make the person religious / spiritual or will it make the first born religious / spiritual? Some how, I think it will make both the the parent and the child religious and spiritual. What do you say?Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 13/12/09, deepen thakkar <justcoolout wrote:deepen thakkar <justcooloutRe: Re: Venus and Jupiter Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 7:14 PM manoj jipisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha sthana ....the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in Abhishek Bacchans chart ...--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and JupiterTo: ancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji, Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) . Regards, -Manoj Vidya <vidyakmr >ancient_indian_ astrologySun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter Dear Deep Ji,You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. ThanksVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > regards> deep> > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Samdhees? That's interesting!> > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > >> > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > inimical to GURU.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > >> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)> > > >> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I> > > > know? ;-)> > > >> > > > Rohiniranjan> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,> > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > >> > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Ha ha! See you're already hopping all over! And without a penny! :-)What say now? Samdhan vs Marak? Marta kya na karta beti to paraya dhan hai!! RegardsNeelam 2009/12/14 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Hello Neelam ji, See you may trot the Globe if you wish to. Do not take me along. I do not have so much money to accompany you and remain respectfully so. 2nd House for Samadhan ? - Eh ! So much brains I had to excersise to understand this. I had to keep a horoscope in front of me. Then check how could this be. I had to first think from where to start. It clicked that I must begin from the 5th, then the 7th from the 5th and then the 4th from it. So much brainwork I am not accustomed to. I do not have so much brains. Only Shri RR ji can match this much brainwork. Not me. Cheers. Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Thanks for such interesting discussions B-ji and R-ji, > > If I may add some astrology, please provide some samadhaan to it! > > Samdhan ji shares my second house and aptly so, as the beti-dhan is shared > with her and beti augments the dhan with her karma. > Samdhee ji sits in my 7H to actually become my alternate self for the child! > > So far so good.... but both stay in maraksthanas for me! In Indian context, > see how a daughter's parents die a thousand deaths every day and pray for > her happiness! > For that matter even Son's in canging times! > > What a Rishta of Marakas:-) > > Regards > Neelam > > > 2009/12/14 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > > > > > > Dear Shri RR ji, > > > > With no Ma near one, > > this world looks like just a stopover for time, some. > > > > With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife, satisfying > > becomes ones Life. > > > > Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone, > > their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome. > > > > For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel, > > they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel. > > > > The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them, > > if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them. > > > > Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan > > Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan " > > > > I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan > > who keeps close to her heart my little one > > > > The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan " > > she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan. > > > > But is not this what Life must be ? > > Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ? > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > " rohinicrystal " rohini_ranjan@ wrote: > > > > > > Welcome back B. bhai-saheb! > > > > > > I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into this > > Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere apologies, of > > course!...) > > > > > > SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect > > > > > > SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a > > prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as she was > > when she lived here with her parents! > > > > > > Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but Fathers and > > Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or whatever! > > Or maybe it is! > > > > > > Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is always > > on her case from the 12th from 5th? > > > > > > Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the > > Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising Rupee or > > the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what will > > happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would be the > > result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal? > > > > > > While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless details > > such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my children > > have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the school does > > not call AGAIN! > > > > > > Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers ands and > > what not! > > > > > > Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE! > > > > > > VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!' > > > > > > You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes and > > oversight can get tricky and even dangerous! > > > > > > VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some of the > > most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread running > > through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED! > > > > > > Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a wrong > > way! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want > > every posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate > > " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to > > explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, > > but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I > > could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)// > > > > > > > > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have > > created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from > > opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What > > kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's? > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who > > were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! > > What do I know? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Dear Neelam, I am really BAD at counting and math! Perhaps that is why Astrology came to me naturally :-) 2nd house indeed! Kutumba sthaana it is called! Named!! Amongst Bengalis, the " in-laws' are called " KUTUMBA or KUTUM...! " After all, through aliances such as those can we make sure that the LINEAGE continues ...! There is another way too for LINEAGE to continue! Through becoming a GURU and copyrighting the GURUDOM! SERIOUSLY, Neelam jee -- that too has been tried! In the realm of Reiki when almost a decade ago one of the GRAND MASTERS in North America tried to COPYRIGHT Reiki, but failed of course! Frank Arjava Peters, an acolyte of Rajneesh/Osho came forth and brought Reiki Fire to the fore and reminded us all WHAT FIRE is all about! RR_, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 14, 2009 First born begetting will be problemetic. The person/native will be under Jupiterian influence first. Child next. Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Mon, 14/12/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55Re: Re: Venus and Jupiter Date: Monday, 14 December, 2009, 1:47 PM Dear Deepenji,Just a thought. If Ju as the 12th lord signifying all that you said lord and as 9th lord of the natural zodiac signifying guru,dharma etcc, is situated in 5th house, another dharma house signifying children, would it make the person religious / spiritual or will it make the first born religious / spiritual? Some how, I think it will make both the the parent and the child religious and spiritual. What do you say?Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 13/12/09, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ > wrote: deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiterancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 13 December, 2009, 7:14 PM manoj jipisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha sthana ....the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in Abhishek Bacchans chart ...--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiterancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji, Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) . Regards, -Manoj Vidya <vidyakmr >ancient_indian_ astrologySun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter Dear Deep Ji,You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. ThanksVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > regards> deep> > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Samdhees? That's interesting!> > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > >> > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > inimical to GURU.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > >> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)> > > >> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I> > > > know? ;-)> > > >> > > > Rohiniranjan> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,> > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > >> > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
