Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Friends, It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear B. Bhai They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-) Rohiniranjan , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Samdhees? That's interesting!They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great benefics do they club together for a cause?In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is inimical to GURU. RegardsNeelam2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan Dear B. Bhai They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-) Rohiniranjan , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > regards/Bhaskar. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Samdhees? That's interesting! > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great > benefics do they club together for a cause? > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is > inimical to GURU. > > Regards > Neelam > > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I > > know? ;-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Kuch and Devyani! I have always seen that as an eternal love story 'celestial'! Between Venus and Jupiter! As the ancient STORY went! RR_, , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Samdhees? That's interesting! > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great > benefics do they club together for a cause? > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is > inimical to GURU. > > Regards > Neelam > > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I > > know? ;-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji,May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air! There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships) Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!RegardsNeelam2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Samdhees? That's interesting! > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great > benefics do they club together for a cause? > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is > inimical to GURU. > > Regards > Neelam > > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I > > know? ;-) > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > <%40>, > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear neelamji,We know brihaspathi and sukracharya were gurus of opposing camps. But is there any stories of enemity between the 2? I dont think so. I think sukracharya was assigned the duty of being guru to asuras (dont know by whom!!!) Further my understanding is venus represents husband in a wifes chart and wife in a husbands chart. According to some in addition to venus, ju and mars are also given karaka for husband.We cannot explain everything in terms of legends i think. Because, for example venus is a female planet but sukracharya was not female.Similarly, moon is a female planet but moon is said to have 27 wives the nakshatras.How will we reconcile all this?RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:44:56 +0530Re: Re: Venus and Jupiter Samdhees? That's interesting!They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great benefics do they club together for a cause?In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is inimical to GURU.RegardsNeelam2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Dear B. BhaiThey are 'samdhees!' :-)It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)Rohiniranjan , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Friends,> > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > regards/Bhaskar.> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Enjoy your Darshan Bhaskarji. Venus is exalated in Jupterian pisces - its "cold" sign as the wisdom of Jupiter allows for the passion of Venus to play out in a sublime way. Both give gnyan of shastra's. But Jupiter is not very comfortable in the house of Venus.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Venus and Jupiter Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:24 AM Dear Friends,It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. AndJupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then whydoes Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination ofVenus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, forBhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness andthereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan ofPushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.regards/Bhaskar. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear BhaskarjiVenus is the love god and is always interested in uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding,patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..regards deep Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Bhaskar Ji Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted. best regards Swami Roopam pandit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Swami Roopam Pandit ji, Yes I agree. regards/Bhaskar , " swamiroopam " <swamiroopam wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > > Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted. > > best regards > > Swami Roopam pandit > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear All, Some co-incidence. Jup and Venus, both Guru-s, gets exalted in watery signs. One in a calm water (cancer) and other in Ocean !! regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of BhaskarSunday, December 13, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: Re: Venus and Jupiter Dear Swami Roopam Pandit ji,Yes I agree.regards/Bhaskar , "swamiroopam" <swamiroopam wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar Ji> > Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted.> > best regards> > Swami Roopam pandit>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear friends, Venus is the karaka of Love. Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to real hard facts. I repeat- Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union. Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ? Answer -The 12th House. In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ? Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter. Hence Jupiter gets exalted here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Before anyone starts arguing with me on my written words, here " Love " means Love as in marriage. The marriage does not seem solemnised or consummated without a " Suhaag Raat " . Thats what I mean to say , and Venus is the Karaka of the 7th house of marriage . regards/Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > Venus is the karaka of Love. > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? > > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to > real hard facts. > > I repeat- > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? > > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union. > > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ? > > Answer -The 12th House. > > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ? > > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter. > > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Sorry, Read the last line as, Hence Venus gets Exalted here. regards/Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > Venus is the karaka of Love. > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? > > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to > real hard facts. > > I repeat- > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ? > > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union. > > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ? > > Answer -The 12th House. > > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ? > > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter. > > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Bhaskar-ji, It (the slip of pen..errr. typo) was understood. In the similar fashion, can it be said that ....... The Purohit (Jup) gets exalted in 'Home' ? regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of BhaskarSunday, December 13, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Venus and Jupiter Sorry, Read the last line as,Hence Venus gets Exalted here.regards/Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear friends,> > Venus is the karaka of Love.> > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?> > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to> real hard facts.> > I repeat-> > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?> > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union.> > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ?> > Answer -The 12th House.> > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ?> > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter.> > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here.>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Deep Ji, You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. Thanks Vidya , deepen thakkar <justcoolout wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji > > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the " garbha " of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding,patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge.. > > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always.. > > regards > deep > > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > Re: Re: Venus and Jupiter > > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM >  > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air! > > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships) > > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!! > > Regards > Neelam > > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > > >  > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Samdhees? That's interesting! > > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great > > > benefics do they club together for a cause? > > > > > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is > > > inimical to GURU. > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent > > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I > > > > know? ;-) > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>, > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > > > > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 I read somewhere in the shastra's that the gopis use to get up early in the morning and worship mother " Jagdama Mata " to get a good husband. Notice Jupiter(karak for husband) gets exalted in the sign of cancer( mother.. Vidya , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Some co-incidence. Jup and Venus, both Guru-s, gets exalted > in watery signs. One in a calm water (cancer) and other in Ocean !! > > regards > > Chakraborty > > > ________________________________ > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:58 PM > > Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > > Dear Swami Roopam Pandit ji, > > Yes I agree. > > regards/Bhaskar > > --- In <%40\ groups.com>, " swamiroopam " <swamiroopam@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > > > > Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted. > > > > best regards > > > > Swami Roopam pandit > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Kidhar se kuch bhi jod dete hain aap Vidya ji. , " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote: > > > I read somewhere in the shastra's that the gopis use to get up early in the morning and worship mother " Jagdama Mata " to get a good husband. Notice Jupiter(karak for husband) gets exalted in the sign of cancer( mother.. > > Vidya > > , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Some co-incidence. Jup and Venus, both Guru-s, gets exalted > > in watery signs. One in a calm water (cancer) and other in Ocean !! > > > > regards > > > > Chakraborty > > > > > > ________________________________ > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:58 PM > > > > Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > > > > > > Dear Swami Roopam Pandit ji, > > > > Yes I agree. > > > > regards/Bhaskar > > > > --- In <%40\ groups.com>, " swamiroopam " <swamiroopam@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > > > > > > Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted. > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > Swami Roopam pandit > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Call me " Ji " one more time and I will call you as " Uncle Ji " only!! Unless you call me " Ji " as a sign of respect don't say it otherwise. While you may be young in heart, spirit, and age I am still much younger to you.:-) Ok on more serious notes my purpose of my previous post was to show one reason why Jupiter gets exalted in cancer. Vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Kidhar se kuch bhi jod dete hain aap Vidya ji. > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > I read somewhere in the shastra's that the gopis use to get up early in the morning and worship mother " Jagdama Mata " to get a good husband. Notice Jupiter(karak for husband) gets exalted in the sign of cancer( mother.. > > > > Vidya > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Some co-incidence. Jup and Venus, both Guru-s, gets exalted > > > in watery signs. One in a calm water (cancer) and other in Ocean !! > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Chakraborty > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:58 PM > > > > > > Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swami Roopam Pandit ji, > > > > > > Yes I agree. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar > > > > > > --- In <%40\ groups.com>, " swamiroopam " <swamiroopam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > > > > > > > > Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted. > > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > > > Swami Roopam pandit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji, Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions). Regards, -Manoj Vidya <vidyakmr Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM Re: Venus and Jupiter Dear Deep Ji,You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. ThanksVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > regards> deep> > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Samdhees? That's interesting!> > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > >> > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > inimical to GURU.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > >> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)> > > >> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I> > > > know? ;-)> > > >> > > > Rohiniranjan> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,> > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > >> > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Ms Vidya (Ji). 1. I tried to follow your wishes and NOT call you 'ji" but was the ONLY one calling you Ms Vidya and hence stood out like a sore thumb. 2. It is Group protocol to calle people "Ji" and not necessarily that only the "older" ones shoud be called so. 3. Please get used to "Ji", and it will make all our lives easier. Regards, -Manoj Vidya <vidyakmr Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 9:04:43 AM Re: Venus and Jupiter Call me "Ji" one more time and I will call you as "Uncle Ji" only!! Unless you call me "Ji" as a sign of respect don't say it otherwise. While you may be young in heart, spirit, and age I am still much younger to you.:-)Ok on more serious notes my purpose of my previous post was to show one reason why Jupiter gets exalted in cancer. Vidya ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Kidhar se kuch bhi jod dete hain aap Vidya ji.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Vidya" <vidyakmr@> wrote:> >> > > > I read somewhere in the shastra's that the gopis use to get up early in the morning and worship mother "Jagdama Mata" to get a good husband. Notice Jupiter(karak for husband) gets exalted in the sign of cancer( mother..> > > > Vidya> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@ > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > Some co-incidence. Jup and Venus, both Guru-s, gets exalted> > > in watery signs. One in a calm water (cancer) and other in Ocean !!> > > > > > regards> > > > > > Chakraborty> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > ancient_indian_ astrology [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:58 PM> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swami Roopam Pandit ji,> > > > > > Yes I agree.> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>, "swamiroopam" <swamiroopam@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji> > > >> > > > Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted.> > > >> > > > best regards> > > >> > > > Swami Roopam pandit> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Okay Vidya Got it. Yes but mujhe Uncle ji mat kahna. Bata doonga jab kahna hoga tab. (When I turn about 75 tab sochenge) I am also very young. However young you may be. And with ladies around I always feel younger.... best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote: > > > Call me " Ji " one more time and I will call you as " Uncle Ji " only!! Unless you call me " Ji " as a sign of respect don't say it otherwise. While you may be young in heart, spirit, and age I am still much younger to you.:-) > > Ok on more serious notes my purpose of my previous post was to show one reason why Jupiter gets exalted in cancer. > Vidya > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Kidhar se kuch bhi jod dete hain aap Vidya ji. > > > > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I read somewhere in the shastra's that the gopis use to get up early in the morning and worship mother " Jagdama Mata " to get a good husband. Notice Jupiter(karak for husband) gets exalted in the sign of cancer( mother.. > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Some co-incidence. Jup and Venus, both Guru-s, gets exalted > > > > in watery signs. One in a calm water (cancer) and other in Ocean !! > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Chakraborty > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:58 PM > > > > > > > > Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swami Roopam Pandit ji, > > > > > > > > Yes I agree. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar > > > > > > > > --- In <%40\ groups.com>, " swamiroopam " <swamiroopam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > > > > > > > > > > Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted. > > > > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > > > > > Swami Roopam pandit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Dear Manoj Ji, You maybe right about the affliction part as I personally came to know 2 people with exalted Venus. First person has Venus exalted in Lagna with moon's aspect from 7th house and has no affliction to Venus. He is 32 years of age and actually a very pious, dharmic man but he is still struggling to find a wife with " good character " . Must be a hard thing in this day and age. The 2nd person has exalted Venus in 11th house but with rahu's malefic aspects from 4th house. He is married but very unhappy in marriage..He's had several other failed relationship in life before and after marriage. Regards Vidya , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji, > > Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the " negative " sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions). >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > Vidya <vidyakmr > > Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM > Re: Venus and Jupiter > >  > Dear Deep Ji, > > You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. Thanks > > Vidya > > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji > > > > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the " garbha " of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge.. > > > > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always.. > > > > regards > > deep > > > > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air! > > > > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships) > > > > > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!! > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Samdhees? That's interesting! > > > > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great > > > > > benefics do they club together for a cause? > > > > > > > > > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is > > > > > inimical to GURU. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent > > > > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I > > > > > > know? ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>, > > > > > > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And > > > > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why > > > > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of > > > > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for > > > > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and > > > > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of > > > > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 13, 2009 Ok I will not call you Uncle Ji until you are an old man. But you can continue to call me Ji if you wish as I am already used to by now since this is the only please I get to hear it. Vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Okay Vidya Got it. Yes but mujhe Uncle ji mat kahna. Bata doonga jab kahna hoga tab. (When I turn about 75 tab sochenge) > > I am also very young. However young you may be. > > And with ladies around I always feel younger.... > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > Call me " Ji " one more time and I will call you as " Uncle Ji " only!! Unless you call me " Ji " as a sign of respect don't say it otherwise. While you may be young in heart, spirit, and age I am still much younger to you.:-) > > > > Ok on more serious notes my purpose of my previous post was to show one reason why Jupiter gets exalted in cancer. > > Vidya > > > > , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kidhar se kuch bhi jod dete hain aap Vidya ji. > > > > > > > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I read somewhere in the shastra's that the gopis use to get up early in the morning and worship mother " Jagdama Mata " to get a good husband. Notice Jupiter(karak for husband) gets exalted in the sign of cancer( mother.. > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > Some co-incidence. Jup and Venus, both Guru-s, gets exalted > > > > > in watery signs. One in a calm water (cancer) and other in Ocean !! > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > Chakraborty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Venus and Jupiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Swami Roopam Pandit ji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes I agree. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40\ groups.com>, " swamiroopam " <swamiroopam@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted. > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Swami Roopam pandit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
