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Thats better.

 

(And dont tell anybody. This is the only place I use this form of address)

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

, " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote:

>

>

> Ok I will not call you Uncle Ji until you are an old man. But you can continue

to call me Ji if you wish as I am already used to by now since this is the only

please I get to hear it.

>

> Vidya

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > Okay Vidya Got it. Yes but mujhe Uncle ji mat kahna. Bata doonga jab kahna

hoga tab. (When I turn about 75 tab sochenge)

> >

> > I am also very young. However young you may be.

> >

> > And with ladies around I always feel younger....

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Call me " Ji " one more time and I will call you as " Uncle Ji " only!! Unless

you call me " Ji " as a sign of respect don't say it otherwise. While you may be

young in heart, spirit, and age I am still much younger to you.:-)

> > >

> > > Ok on more serious notes my purpose of my previous post was to show one

reason why Jupiter gets exalted in cancer.

> > > Vidya

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Kidhar se kuch bhi jod dete hain aap Vidya ji.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I read somewhere in the shastra's that the gopis use to get up early

in the morning and worship mother " Jagdama Mata " to get a good husband. Notice

Jupiter(karak for husband) gets exalted in the sign of cancer( mother..

> > > > >

> > > > > Vidya

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Chakraborty, PL "

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> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear All,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Some co-incidence. Jup and Venus, both Guru-s, gets exalted

> > > > > > in watery signs. One in a calm water (cancer) and other in Ocean !!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Chakraborty

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ________________________________

> > > > > >

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > > > > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 7:58 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Re: Venus and Jupiter

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Swami Roopam Pandit ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes I agree.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

<%40\

groups.com>, " swamiroopam " <swamiroopam@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Guru is a broad and liberal natured planet,so it is not enimical

with shukra. In the house of Guru, Shukra derives strength of wisdom from guru's

house so it gets strengthened and hence exhalted.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > best regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Swami Roopam pandit

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Chakrabortyji,

 

No doubt about it,Jupiter is " Guru " and people goes to learn at the place of

Guru,at his residence or Asharm so all knowledge will get at residence of Guru

and if Guru is not there than their is no knowledge.Moon is control the mind and

if Guru is occupied the house of Moon than he exhibit his all abilities.So

Jupiter exalted in Cancer sign.

 

Thanks,

 

M.S.Bohra

 

, " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar-ji,

>

> It (the slip of pen..errr. typo) was understood.

>

> In the similar fashion, can it be said that .......

>

> The Purohit (Jup) gets exalted in 'Home' ?

>

> regards

>

> Chakraborty

>

>

> ________________________________

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:12 PM

>

> Re: Venus and Jupiter

>

>

>

> Sorry, Read the last line as,

>

> Hence Venus gets Exalted here.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> --- In

<%40\

groups.com>, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear friends,

> >

> > Venus is the karaka of Love.

> >

> > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?

> >

> > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to

> > real hard facts.

> >

> > I repeat-

> >

> > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?

> >

> > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union.

> >

> > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ?

> >

> > Answer -The 12th House.

> >

> > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ?

> >

> > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter.

> >

> > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here.

> >

>

>

>

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manoj jipisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha sthana ....the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in Abhishek Bacchans chart ...--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: Venus and JupiterTo:

Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM

 

 

 

Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji,

 

Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) .

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Vidya <vidyakmr >ancient_indian_ astrologySun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

Dear Deep Ji,You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. ThanksVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature

student is always

asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > regards> deep> > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > > Â > > > > >

> >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general

considerations.> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Samdhees? That's interesting!> > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > >> > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > inimical to GURU.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > >> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)>

> > >> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I> > > > know? ;-)> > > >> > > > Rohiniranjan> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,> > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > >

> does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > >> > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/>

 

 

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Wah kya baat hai. Logon ke views padh kar anand aa raha hai.

 

, " Sudan " <msbohra62 wrote:

>

> Dear Chakrabortyji,

>

> No doubt about it,Jupiter is " Guru " and people goes to learn at the place of

Guru,at his residence or Asharm so all knowledge will get at residence of Guru

and if Guru is not there than their is no knowledge.Moon is control the mind and

if Guru is occupied the house of Moon than he exhibit his all abilities.So

Jupiter exalted in Cancer sign.

>

> Thanks,

>

> M.S.Bohra

>

> , " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar-ji,

> >

> > It (the slip of pen..errr. typo) was understood.

> >

> > In the similar fashion, can it be said that .......

> >

> > The Purohit (Jup) gets exalted in 'Home' ?

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Chakraborty

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> >

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:12 PM

> >

> > Re: Venus and Jupiter

> >

> >

> >

> > Sorry, Read the last line as,

> >

> > Hence Venus gets Exalted here.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > --- In

<%40\

groups.com>, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear friends,

> > >

> > > Venus is the karaka of Love.

> > >

> > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?

> > >

> > > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to

> > > real hard facts.

> > >

> > > I repeat-

> > >

> > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?

> > >

> > > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union.

> > >

> > > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ?

> > >

> > > Answer -The 12th House.

> > >

> > > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ?

> > >

> > > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Learned Members, Here is some more thoughts on Venus and Jupiter!!Venus becomes Combust, Thursday, December 17, as it gets within 6 degrees of the Sun, i.e., the planet is so close to the Sun we cannot see it. The significations of Venus

will be "burnt up" for the next several weeks. Venus is one of the

planets of Guidance (the other is Jupiter) and when we can't see it, we

are "without guidance", i.e., it is a poor time for making informed

decisions. Venus will reappear in the West as the "evening star" in

February.Jupiter enters Aquarius on Saturday, December 19.

The planet of Wisdom and Faith in the sign of the Humanitarian is

considered hopeful for Social Reforms for the next four and 1/2 months.

But while changing signs, Jupiter is weak, and will also be exactly

conjunct Neptune in the Heavens. Although Idealism

is High, so is Illusion, leading to Unrealistic Expectations. Since the

other planet of Guidance, Venus, is also weakened, and the energy of

the New Moon is compromised, December is a very bad time for initiating

any important new endeavor.Vidya , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Wah kya baat hai. Logon ke views padh kar anand aa raha hai.> > , "Sudan" msbohra62@ wrote:> >> > Dear Chakrabortyji,> > > > No doubt about it,Jupiter is "Guru" and people goes to learn at the place of Guru,at his residence or Asharm so all knowledge will get at residence of Guru and if Guru is not there than their is no knowledge.Moon is control the mind and if Guru is occupied the house of Moon than he exhibit his all abilities.So Jupiter exalted in Cancer sign.> > > > Thanks,> > > > M.S.Bohra> > > > , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar-ji,> > > > > > It (the slip of pen..errr. typo) was understood.> > > > > > In the similar fashion, can it be said that .......> > > > > > The Purohit (Jup) gets exalted in 'Home' ?> > > > > > regards> > > > > > Chakraborty> > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:12 PM> > > > > > Re: Venus and Jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Read the last line as,> > > > > > Hence Venus gets Exalted here.> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > <%40>, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear friends,> > > >> > > > Venus is the karaka of Love.> > > >> > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?> > > >> > > > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to> > > > real hard facts.> > > >> > > > I repeat-> > > >> > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?> > > >> > > > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union.> > > >> > > > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ?> > > >> > > > Answer -The 12th House.> > > >> > > > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ?> > > >> > > > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter.> > > >> > > > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.> > >> >>

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Dear Sir and Madam Ji,

 

//They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their

children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be

entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)//

 

If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created havoc

and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite clans, one

side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of children would

they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's?

 

Regards,

Vidya

 

, " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Dear B. Bhai

>

> They are 'samdhees!' :-)

>

> It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over

to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know?

;-)

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And

> > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why

> > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of

> > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for

> > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and

> > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?

> >

> > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of

> > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

>

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Vidya_jee,

 

Perhaps -- they would be just " human! " :-)

 

, " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sir and Madam Ji,

>

> //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their

children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be

entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)//

>

> If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created

havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite

clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of

children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's?

>

> Regards,

> Vidya

>

> , " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear B. Bhai

> >

> > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> >

> > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent

over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I

know? ;-)

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And

> > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why

> > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of

> > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for

> > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and

> > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?

> > >

> > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of

> > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

>

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Deepen Ji,

 

Any body (even if he has a big B in his last name) who has Venus in 12H, in Pisces, IF afflicted by Saturn/Rahu AND IF Venus has very low BAV AND IF 12H has low SAV AND IF he runs Venus Dasha, Venusian problems can be expected. 12H denotes Moksha AND Bed Pleasures. Want to hazard a guess which attribute an Afflicted Venus in Pisces will promote?

 

Similar situation also exists with Jupiter in Libra.

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

deepen thakkar <justcoolout Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 12:14:38 PMRe: Re: Venus and Jupiter

 

 

 

 

manoj jipisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha sthana ....the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in Abhishek Bacchans chart ...--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiterancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM

 

 

 

Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji,

 

Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) .

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Vidya <vidyakmr >ancient_indian_ astrologySun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

Dear Deep Ji,You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. ThanksVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath

itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > regards> deep> > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi

fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Samdhees? That's

interesting!> > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > >> > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > inimical to GURU.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > >> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)> > > >> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do

I> > > > know? ;-)> > > >> > > > Rohiniranjan> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,> > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > Bhautik sukh

as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > >> > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Thakkar_jee,

 

Namastay and pardon me for jumping in! I have just joined this wonderful and

vibrant forum and am still trying to get from " point A " to 'point B' and so on!

It is 'deja-vu' in a sense (so many familiar names and faces that bring back

such wonderful memories and recollections!) and yet one must drive carefully

when in a new city!

 

Manoj_ji did use the very IMPORTANT caveat: <<(ofcourse with otherÂ

afflictions)>> (<<...>> is what is used in the French language instead of " ... "

when quoting, by the way).

 

'Pisces the sign of mystics' is indeed very intriguing. I hope I am not waxing

poetical but in a chart, it represents the 'Bhanwaar' perhaps (afflictions just

make the experience more difficult!). A Bhanwaar (reminds me of the hindi movie:

MILAN!) is essentially a watery grave! Very negative and as if the River wants

to suck into its core whatever it gave or produced forth earlier!

 

For some strange reason, I have always felt that a Bhanwaar/Whirlpool is in some

sense the ANTONYM of Samudra Manthan! In the realm of DUALITY in which most of

us humans exist, work in and rest in -- what is received must then be given

back! What the Ocean once gave must never become a possession for it was but a

GIFT and must always be returned and given back to the rightful owner -- The

OCEAN in this case.

 

Perhaps that is why Pisces is worthy of our attention! And since we jyotishis

are not encumbered by 'intercepted signs' although they exist in Jyotish as well

but in a different context -- each chart has Pisces in it, the 12th house of

Kalapurusha! Worthy of note for it is the last door, symbolically-speaking! But

then Astrology, just like any other LANGUAGE is about symbols, is it not? In any

language, the characters and words enjoy immediate recognition and engage the

'thoughts' and ideas! But ONLY to those who can READ and UNDERSTAND the

language!

 

My apologies for a long-winded post from a newcomer, who has no clue how this

metropolis is organized and I hope I did not park my car in the wrong place and

may get a ticket!

 

Warm Regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, deepen thakkar

<justcoolout wrote:

>

> manoj ji

> pisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate

knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi

bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the

temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the  administration

work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha

sthana ....

> the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in

Abhishek Bacchans chart ...

>

>

> --- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj

> Re: Re: Venus and Jupiter

>

> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM

>

 

>

>

>

>

Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji,

>  

> Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally

Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the " negative " sign of Jupiter and THAT is

one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with

Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour

(ofcourse with other afflictions) .

>  

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

Vidya <vidyakmr >

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

>

>  

>

> Dear Deep Ji,

>

> You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way

you put it. Thanks

>

> Vidya

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar

<justcoolout@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskarji

> >

> > Venus is the love god and is always interested in   uniting 2 souls

that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is

deep end of ocean ,the " garbha " of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the

union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of

them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of

Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana 

and mecury as an immature student is always

> asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter

is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not

roam around to find true knowledge..

> >

> > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his

Rehmat be upon us for always..

> >

> > regards

> > deep

> >

> > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM

> >

> >

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> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery

and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!

> >

> > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru

nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)

> >

> >

> > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

> >

> > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

> >

> >

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> > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general

considerations.

> >

> >

>

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Samdhees? That's interesting!

> >

> > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great

> >

> > > benefics do they club together for a cause?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet

is

> >

> > > inimical to GURU.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Regards

> >

> > > Neelam

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> >

> > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Dear B. Bhai

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> >

>

> > > >

> >

> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were

sent

> >

> > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What

do I

> >

> > > > know? ;-)

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_

astrology%40gr oups. com>,

> >

> >

> > > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Dear Friends,

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And

> >

> > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then

why

> >

> > > >

> > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of

> >

> > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited,

for

> >

> > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and

> >

> > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of

> >

> > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

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Did you know that the original 'family name/surname' of the Bachchans was

Srivastava? :-)

 

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Deepen Ji,

>

> Any body (even if he has a big B in his last name) who has Venus in 12H, in

Pisces, IF afflicted by Saturn/Rahu AND IF Venus has very low BAV AND IF 12H

has low SAV AND IF he runs Venus Dasha, Venusian problems can be expected. 12H

denotes Moksha AND Bed Pleasures. Want to hazard a guess which attribute an

Afflicted Venus in Pisces will promote?

>

> Similar situation also exists with Jupiter in Libra.

>  

> Regards,

>  -Manoj

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> deepen thakkar <justcoolout

>

> Sun, December 13, 2009 12:14:38 PM

> Re: Re: Venus and Jupiter

>

>  

> manoj ji

> pisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate

knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi

bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the

temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the  administration

work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha

sthana ....

> the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in

Abhishek Bacchans chart ...

>

>

> --- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:

>

>

> >Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >

> >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

> >ancient_indian_ astrology

> >Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM

> >

> >

> > 

> >Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji,

> >

> >Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally

Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the " negative " sign of Jupiter and THAT is

one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with

Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour

(ofcourse with other afflictions) .

> > 

> >Regards,

> > -Manoj

> > 

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> ________________________________

> Vidya <vidyakmr >

> >ancient_indian_ astrology

> >Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM

> >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

> >

> > 

> >Dear Deep Ji,

> >

> >You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the

way you put it. Thanks

> >

> >Vidya

> >

> >ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar

<justcoolout@ ...> wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Bhaskarji

> >>

> >> Venus is the love god and is always interested in   uniting 2 souls

that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is

deep end of ocean ,the " garbha " of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the

union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of

them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of

Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana 

and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults

with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge

lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..

> >>

> >> Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his

Rehmat be upon us for always..

> >>

> >> regards

> >> deep

> >>

> >> --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:

> >>

> >> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>

> >> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

> >> ancient_indian_ astrology

> >> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>  

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >>

> >> May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery

and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!

> >>

> >> There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean

Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)

> >>

> >>

> >> Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!

> >>

> >> Regards

> >> Neelam

> >>

> >>

> >> 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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> >>  

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general

considerations.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> regards/Bhaskar.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:

> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >> > Samdhees? That's interesting!

> >>

> >> > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great

> >>

> >> > benefics do they club together for a cause?

> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >> > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet

is

> >>

> >> > inimical to GURU.

> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >> > Regards

> >>

> >> > Neelam

> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >> > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>

> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >> > >

> >>

> >> > >

> >>

> >> > > Dear B. Bhai

> >>

> >> > >

> >>

> >> > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> >>

> >> > >

> >>

> >> > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were

sent

> >>

> >> > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What

do I

> >>

> >> > > know? ;-)

> >>

> >> > >

> >>

> >> > > Rohiniranjan

> >>

> >> > >

> >>

> >> > >

> >>

> >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_

astrology%40gr oups. com>,

> >>

> >>

> >> > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:

> >>

> >> > > >

> >>

> >> > > >

> >>

> >> > > > Dear Friends,

> >>

> >> > > >

> >>

> >> > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And

> >>

> >> > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then

why

> >>

> >> > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of

> >>

> >> > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited,

for

> >>

> >> > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and

> >>

> >> > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?

> >>

> >> > > >

> >>

> >> > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of

> >>

> >> > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.

> >>

> >> > > >

> >>

> >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> >>

> >> > > >

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Just in lite mood enjoy it !

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Wah kya baat hai. Logon ke views padh kar anand aa raha hai.

>

> , " Sudan " <msbohra62@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chakrabortyji,

> >

> > No doubt about it,Jupiter is " Guru " and people goes to learn at the place of

Guru,at his residence or Asharm so all knowledge will get at residence of Guru

and if Guru is not there than their is no knowledge.Moon is control the mind and

if Guru is occupied the house of Moon than he exhibit his all abilities.So

Jupiter exalted in Cancer sign.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > M.S.Bohra

> >

> > , " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar-ji,

> > >

> > > It (the slip of pen..errr. typo) was understood.

> > >

> > > In the similar fashion, can it be said that .......

> > >

> > > The Purohit (Jup) gets exalted in 'Home' ?

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Chakraborty

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > >

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > > Sunday, December 13, 2009 8:12 PM

> > >

> > > Re: Venus and Jupiter

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Sorry, Read the last line as,

> > >

> > > Hence Venus gets Exalted here.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > --- In

<%40\

groups.com>, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear friends,

> > > >

> > > > Venus is the karaka of Love.

> > > >

> > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?

> > > >

> > > > Let us not talk in symbols, philosphy and exoteric at times and get to

> > > > real hard facts.

> > > >

> > > > I repeat-

> > > >

> > > > Where and when does Love reach its ultimate culminations ?

> > > >

> > > > Answer - On the Bed where the couple meets in Physical Union.

> > > >

> > > > Which house in the Horoscope represents the Bed pleasures and comfort ?

> > > >

> > > > Answer -The 12th House.

> > > >

> > > > In the natural Horoscope who represents the 12th House and sign ?

> > > >

> > > > Answer - Pisces, with the Lord as Jupiter.

> > > >

> > > > Hence Jupiter gets exalted here.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Vidya,

 

Did you mean " during " ? Because you did not mention anything about the divorce --

in the second example you spoke about! Also, you taught me today that Rahu has

an '8th' aspect like mars!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

<<NB: Please note that I have dropped the 'ji' as per your 'nok-jhonk' with

Bhaskar Bhai -- even though I have three wonderful Bhatijees already but there

is always room for more daughters in Jyotish ...>>

 

, " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote:

>

> Dear Manoj Ji,

>

> You maybe right about the affliction part as I personally came to know 2

people with exalted Venus.

> First person has Venus exalted in Lagna with moon's aspect from 7th house and

has no affliction to Venus. He is 32 years of age and actually a very pious,

dharmic man but he is still struggling to find a wife with " good character " .

Must be a hard thing in this day and age.

>

> The 2nd person has exalted Venus in 11th house but with rahu's malefic aspects

from 4th house. He is married but very unhappy in marriage..He's had several

other failed relationship in life before and after marriage.

>

> Regards

> Vidya

>

>

> , Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji,

> >

> > Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally

Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the " negative " sign of Jupiter and THAT is

one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with

Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour

(ofcourse with other afflictions).

> >  

> > Regards,

> >  -Manoj

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> > Vidya <vidyakmr@>

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> > Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM

> > Re: Venus and Jupiter

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> > Dear Deep Ji,

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> > You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the

way you put it. Thanks

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> > Vidya

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> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar

<justcoolout@ ...> wrote:

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> > > Dear Bhaskarji

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> > > Venus is the love god and is always interested in   uniting 2 souls

that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is

deep end of ocean ,the " garbha " of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the

union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of

them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of

Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana 

and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults

with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge

lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..

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> > > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his

Rehmat be upon us for always..

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> > > regards

> > > deep

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> > > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:

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> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>

> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

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> > > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes

fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!

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> > > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean

Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)

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> > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!

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> > > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both

great

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> > > > > Dear B. Bhai

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> > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

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> > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were

sent

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> > > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong!

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> > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And

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> > > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then

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A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want every posting

to be written in English language, asked us to translate " Samdhees " or

" Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to explain to the

reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ?

 

 

 

, " Vidya " <vidyakmr wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sir and Madam Ji,

>

> //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their

children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be

entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)//

>

> If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created

havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite

clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of

children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's?

>

> Regards,

> Vidya

>

> , " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear B. Bhai

> >

> > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> >

> > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent

over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I

know? ;-)

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

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Welcome back B. bhai-saheb!

 

I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into this

Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere apologies, of

course!...)

 

SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect

 

SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a prosperous home

where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as she was when she lived here

with her parents!

 

Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but Fathers and Mothers

think differently and it is not about culture or times or whatever! Or maybe it

is!

 

Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is always on her

case from the 12th from 5th?

 

Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the Middle-EAST

war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising Rupee or the Environment

and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what will happen to Srilanka and

what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would be the result of the next cricket

match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal?

 

While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless details such as

what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my children have clean

clothes to wear and their homework done so that the school does not call AGAIN!

 

Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers and Directors and what

not!

 

Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE!

 

VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!'

 

You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes and oversight

can get tricky and even dangerous!

 

VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some of the most

METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread running through their

lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED!

 

Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a wrong way!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want every

posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate " Samdhees " or

" Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to explain to the

reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ?

>

>

>

> , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Sir and Madam Ji,

> >

> > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but

their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be

entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)//

> >

> > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created

havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite

clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of

children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vidya

> >

> > , " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear B. Bhai

> > >

> > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> > >

> > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent

over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I

know? ;-)

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > >

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Dear Shri RR ji,

 

With no Ma near one,

this world looks like just a stopover for time, some.

 

With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife, satisfying

becomes ones Life.

 

Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone,

their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome.

 

For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel,

they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel.

 

The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them,

if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them.

 

Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan

Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan "

 

I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan

who keeps close to her heart my little one

 

The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan "

she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan.

 

But is not this what Life must be ?

Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ?

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Welcome back B. bhai-saheb!

>

> I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into this

Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere apologies, of

course!...)

>

> SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect

>

> SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a prosperous

home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as she was when she lived

here with her parents!

>

> Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but Fathers and

Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or whatever! Or

maybe it is!

>

> Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is always on

her case from the 12th from 5th?

>

> Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the Middle-EAST

war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising Rupee or the Environment

and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what will happen to Srilanka and

what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would be the result of the next cricket

match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal?

>

> While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless details such as

what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my children have clean

clothes to wear and their homework done so that the school does not call AGAIN!

>

> Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers and Directors and what

not!

>

> Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE!

>

> VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!'

>

> You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes and oversight

can get tricky and even dangerous!

>

> VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some of the most

METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread running through their

lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED!

>

> Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a wrong way!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@>

wrote:

> >

> > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want every

posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate " Samdhees " or

" Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to explain to the

reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ?

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji,

> > >

> > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but

their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be

entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)//

> > >

> > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created

havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite

clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of

children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Vidya

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear B. Bhai

> > > >

> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> > > >

> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were

sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do

I know? ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > >

> >

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EGGs-ACT-lie! :-)

 

And we did not even have to change from English to another language!

 

RR_,

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Shri RR ji,

>

> With no Ma near one,

> this world looks like just a stopover for time, some.

>

> With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife, satisfying

becomes ones Life.

>

> Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone,

> their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome.

>

> For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel,

> they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel.

>

> The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them,

> if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them.

>

> Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan

> Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan "

>

> I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan

> who keeps close to her heart my little one

>

> The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan "

> she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan.

>

> But is not this what Life must be ?

> Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ?

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

, " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> >

> > Welcome back B. bhai-saheb!

> >

> > I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into this

Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere apologies, of

course!...)

> >

> > SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect

> >

> > SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a prosperous

home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as she was when she lived

here with her parents!

> >

> > Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but Fathers and

Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or whatever! Or

maybe it is!

> >

> > Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is always on

her case from the 12th from 5th?

> >

> > Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the

Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising Rupee or the

Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what will happen to

Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would be the result of the

next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal?

> >

> > While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless details such

as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my children have clean

clothes to wear and their homework done so that the school does not call AGAIN!

> >

> > Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers and Directors and what

not!

> >

> > Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE!

> >

> > VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!'

> >

> > You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes and

oversight can get tricky and even dangerous!

> >

> > VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some of the most

METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread running through their

lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED!

> >

> > Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a wrong way!

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want every

posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate " Samdhees " or

" Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to explain to the

reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji,

> > > >

> > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but

their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be

entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)//

> > > >

> > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have

created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from

opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind

of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Vidya

> > > >

> > > > , " rohinicrystal "

<rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear B. Bhai

> > > > >

> > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were

sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do

I know? ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Thanks for such interesting discussions B-ji and R-ji,If I may add some astrology, please provide some samadhaan to it!Samdhan ji shares my second house and aptly so, as the beti-dhan is shared with her and beti augments the dhan with her karma.

Samdhee ji sits in my 7H to actually become my alternate self for the child!So far so good.... but both stay in maraksthanas for me! In Indian context, see how a daughter's parents die a thousand deaths every day and pray for her happiness!

For that matter even Son's in canging times!What a Rishta of Marakas:-)RegardsNeelam2009/12/14 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Shri RR ji,

 

With no Ma near one,

this world looks like just a stopover for time, some.

 

With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife, satisfying becomes ones Life.

 

Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone,

their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome.

 

For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel,

they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel.

 

The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them,

if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them.

 

Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan

Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan "

 

I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan

who keeps close to her heart my little one

 

The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan "

she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan.

 

But is not this what Life must be ?

Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ?

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan wrote:

>

> Welcome back B. bhai-saheb!

>

> I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into this Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere apologies, of course!...)

>

> SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect

>

> SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as she was when she lived here with her parents!

>

> Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but Fathers and Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or whatever! Or maybe it is!

>

> Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is always on her case from the 12th from 5th?

>

> Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising Rupee or the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what will happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would be the result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal?

>

> While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless details such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my children have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the school does not call AGAIN!

>

> Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers and Directors and what not!

>

> Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE!

>

> VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!'

>

> You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes and oversight can get tricky and even dangerous!

>

> VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some of the most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread running through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED!

>

> Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a wrong way!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who want every posting to be written in English language, asked us to translate " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in entirety to explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about ?

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji,

> > >

> > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)//

> > >

> > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not have created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they are from opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata gunas.. What kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of sanskara's?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Vidya

> > >

> > > , " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear B. Bhai

> > > >

> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> > > >

> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > >

> >

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Hello Neelam ji,

 

See you may trot the Globe if you wish to. Do not take me along. I do

not have so much money to accompany you and remain respectfully so.

 

2nd House for Samadhan ? - Eh ! So much brains I had to excersise to

understand this. I had to keep a horoscope in front of me. Then check

how could this be. I had to first think from where to start. It clicked

that I must begin from the 5th, then the 7th from the 5th and then the

4th from it. So much brainwork I am not accustomed to. I do not have

so much brains.

 

Only Shri RR ji can match this much brainwork. Not me.

 

Cheers.

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Thanks for such interesting discussions B-ji and R-ji,

>

> If I may add some astrology, please provide some samadhaan to it!

>

> Samdhan ji shares my second house and aptly so, as the beti-dhan is

shared

> with her and beti augments the dhan with her karma.

> Samdhee ji sits in my 7H to actually become my alternate self for the

child!

>

> So far so good.... but both stay in maraksthanas for me! In Indian

context,

> see how a daughter's parents die a thousand deaths every day and pray

for

> her happiness!

> For that matter even Son's in canging times!

>

> What a Rishta of Marakas:-)

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

> 2009/12/14 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

>

> >

> >

> > Dear Shri RR ji,

> >

> > With no Ma near one,

> > this world looks like just a stopover for time, some.

> >

> > With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife,

satisfying

> > becomes ones Life.

> >

> > Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone,

> > their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome.

> >

> > For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel,

> > they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel.

> >

> > The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them,

> > if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them.

> >

> > Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan

> > Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan "

> >

> > I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan

> > who keeps close to her heart my little one

> >

> > The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan "

> > she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan.

> >

> > But is not this what Life must be ?

> > Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > --- In

<%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> > " rohinicrystal " rohini_ranjan@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Welcome back B. bhai-saheb!

> > >

> > > I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into

this

> > Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere

apologies, of

> > course!...)

> > >

> > > SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect

> > >

> > > SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a

> > prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as

she was

> > when she lived here with her parents!

> > >

> > > Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but

Fathers and

> > Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or

whatever!

> > Or maybe it is!

> > >

> > > Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is

always

> > on her case from the 12th from 5th?

> > >

> > > Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the

> > Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising

Rupee or

> > the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what

will

> > happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would

be the

> > result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal?

> > >

> > > While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless

details

> > such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my

children

> > have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the

school does

> > not call AGAIN!

> > >

> > > Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers ands and

> > what not!

> > >

> > > Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE!

> > >

> > > VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!'

> > >

> > > You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes

and

> > oversight can get tricky and even dangerous!

> > >

> > > VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some

of the

> > most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread

running

> > through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED!

> > >

> > > Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a

wrong

> > way!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > --- In

<%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who

want

> > every posting to be written in English language, asked us to

translate

> > " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in

entirety to

> > explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about

?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

<%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> > " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or

Brihaspati,

> > but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of

course I

> > could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)//

> > > > >

> > > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not

have

> > created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they

are from

> > opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata

gunas.. What

> > kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of

sanskara's?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Vidya

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

<%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> > " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear B. Bhai

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children

who

> > were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be

entirely wrong!

> > What do I know? ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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dear shri deep,

An apt answer/explanation for Venus getting exalted in Pisces.

Only correction is Venus is getting debilitated in Virgo and not Jupiter.

the continuation msg in that para looks as though Guru getting debilitated in

virgo which of course u dont mean that.

 

regards,

k.goou

--- On Sun, 12/13/09, deepen thakkar <justcoolout wrote:

deepen thakkar <justcoolout Re: Venus and Jupiter Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 7:17 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear BhaskarjiVenus is the love god and is always interested in uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..regards deep

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Rahu in 4th aspecting venus in 11th ? is this what u meant ?Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Vidya <vidyakmr wrote:

Vidya <vidyakmr Re: Venus and Jupiter Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:51 PM

Dear Manoj Ji,You maybe right about the affliction part as I personally came to know 2 people with exalted Venus. First person has Venus exalted in Lagna with moon's aspect from 7th house and has no affliction to Venus. He is 32 years of age and actually a very pious, dharmic man but he is still struggling to find a wife with "good character". Must be a hard thing in this day and age. The 2nd person has exalted Venus in 11th house but with rahu's malefic aspects from 4th house. He is married but very unhappy in marriage..He' s had several other failed relationship in life before and after marriage.RegardsVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:>>

Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji,> > Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) .>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Vidya <vidyakmr@.. .>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and

Jupiter> >  > Dear Deep Ji,> > You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. Thanks> > Vidya> > ancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji> > > > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his

learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > > > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > > > regards> > deep> > > > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar

ji,> > > > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > > > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > > > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations.> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Samdhees? That's interesting!> > > > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > > > >> > > > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > > > inimical to GURU.> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Neelam> > > > >> > > >

>> > > > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > > > >> > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)> > > > > >> > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I> > > > > > know? ;-)> > > > > >> > > > > > Rohiniranjan> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,>

> > > > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > >

> >> > > > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> >>

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

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Dear B._ji

 

No I cannot! I have not married of any of my children (only attended marriages

of 2/3 of my bhatiejees!).

 

If I recall correctly, you lead this pack --SIR, in that sense because you have

actually done it -- hence I for one would wait for you to share with us what

being the " Father of a Bride " was like!

 

I have kinda sorta known you for a few years now and hence I cheekily pose the

question stated above and I have known in the same way some of the other

jyotishis that exist on Internet, as well! Who I would rather not ASK similar

questions because they are not YOU!

 

You are all wonderful, of course -- worthy of being listened to and being worthy

of SIMRAN!

 

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Hello Neelam ji,

>

> See you may trot the Globe if you wish to. Do not take me along. I do

> not have so much money to accompany you and remain respectfully so.

>

> 2nd House for Samadhan ? - Eh ! So much brains I had to excersise to

> understand this. I had to keep a horoscope in front of me. Then check

> how could this be. I had to first think from where to start. It clicked

> that I must begin from the 5th, then the 7th from the 5th and then the

> 4th from it. So much brainwork I am not accustomed to. I do not have

> so much brains.

>

> Only Shri RR ji can match this much brainwork. Not me.

>

> Cheers.

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

> , neelam gupta

> <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> >

> > Thanks for such interesting discussions B-ji and R-ji,

> >

> > If I may add some astrology, please provide some samadhaan to it!

> >

> > Samdhan ji shares my second house and aptly so, as the beti-dhan is

> shared

> > with her and beti augments the dhan with her karma.

> > Samdhee ji sits in my 7H to actually become my alternate self for the

> child!

> >

> > So far so good.... but both stay in maraksthanas for me! In Indian

> context,

> > see how a daughter's parents die a thousand deaths every day and pray

> for

> > her happiness!

> > For that matter even Son's in canging times!

> >

> > What a Rishta of Marakas:-)

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

> >

> > 2009/12/14 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Shri RR ji,

> > >

> > > With no Ma near one,

> > > this world looks like just a stopover for time, some.

> > >

> > > With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife,

> satisfying

> > > becomes ones Life.

> > >

> > > Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone,

> > > their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome.

> > >

> > > For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel,

> > > they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel.

> > >

> > > The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them,

> > > if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them.

> > >

> > > Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan

> > > Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan "

> > >

> > > I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan

> > > who keeps close to her heart my little one

> > >

> > > The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan "

> > > she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan.

> > >

> > > But is not this what Life must be ?

> > > Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ?

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> <%40yaho\

> ogroups.com>,

> > > " rohinicrystal " rohini_ranjan@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Welcome back B. bhai-saheb!

> > > >

> > > > I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into

> this

> > > Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere

> apologies, of

> > > course!...)

> > > >

> > > > SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect

> > > >

> > > > SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a

> > > prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as

> she was

> > > when she lived here with her parents!

> > > >

> > > > Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but

> Fathers and

> > > Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or

> whatever!

> > > Or maybe it is!

> > > >

> > > > Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is

> always

> > > on her case from the 12th from 5th?

> > > >

> > > > Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the

> > > Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising

> Rupee or

> > > the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what

> will

> > > happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would

> be the

> > > result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal?

> > > >

> > > > While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless

> details

> > > such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my

> children

> > > have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the

> school does

> > > not call AGAIN!

> > > >

> > > > Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers and

> Directors and

> > > what not!

> > > >

> > > > Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE!

> > > >

> > > > VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!'

> > > >

> > > > You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes

> and

> > > oversight can get tricky and even dangerous!

> > > >

> > > > VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some

> of the

> > > most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread

> running

> > > through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED!

> > > >

> > > > Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a

> wrong

> > > way!

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> <%40yaho\

> ogroups.com>,

> > > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who

> want

> > > every posting to be written in English language, asked us to

> translate

> > > " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in

> entirety to

> > > explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about

> ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> <%40yaho\

> ogroups.com>,

> > > " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or

> Brihaspati,

> > > but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of

> course I

> > > could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)//

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not

> have

> > > created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they

> are from

> > > opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata

> gunas.. What

> > > kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of

> sanskara's?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Vidya

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> <%40yaho\

> ogroups.com>,

> > > " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear B. Bhai

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children

> who

> > > were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be

> entirely wrong!

> > > What do I know? ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Deepenji,Just a thought. If Ju as the 12th lord signifying all that you said lord and as 9th lord of the natural zodiac signifying guru,dharma etcc, is situated in 5th house, another dharma house signifying children, would it make the person religious / spiritual or will it make the first born religious / spiritual? Some how, I think it will make both the the parent and the child religious and spiritual. What do you say?Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 13/12/09, deepen thakkar <justcoolout wrote:deepen thakkar <justcooloutRe: Re: Venus and Jupiter Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 7:14

PM

 

 

manoj jipisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha sthana ....the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in Abhishek Bacchans chart ...--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and JupiterTo:

ancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM

 

 

 

Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji,

 

Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) .

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Vidya <vidyakmr >ancient_indian_ astrologySun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

Dear Deep Ji,You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. ThanksVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature

student is always

asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > regards> deep> > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > > Â > > > > >

> >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general

considerations.> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Samdhees? That's interesting!> > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > >> > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > inimical to GURU.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > >> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)>

> > >> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do I> > > > know? ;-)> > > >> > > > Rohiniranjan> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,> > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > >

> does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > Bhautik sukh as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > >> > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Ha ha! See you're already hopping all over! And without a penny! :-)What say now? Samdhan vs Marak? Marta kya na karta beti to paraya dhan hai!! RegardsNeelam

2009/12/14 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Neelam ji,

 

See you may trot the Globe if you wish to. Do not take me along. I do

not have so much money to accompany you and remain respectfully so.

 

2nd House for Samadhan ? - Eh ! So much brains I had to excersise to

understand this. I had to keep a horoscope in front of me. Then check

how could this be. I had to first think from where to start. It clicked

that I must begin from the 5th, then the 7th from the 5th and then the

4th from it. So much brainwork I am not accustomed to. I do not have

so much brains.

 

Only Shri RR ji can match this much brainwork. Not me.

 

Cheers.

 

Bhaskar.

 

, neelam gupta

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Thanks for such interesting discussions B-ji and R-ji,

>

> If I may add some astrology, please provide some samadhaan to it!

>

> Samdhan ji shares my second house and aptly so, as the beti-dhan is

shared

> with her and beti augments the dhan with her karma.

> Samdhee ji sits in my 7H to actually become my alternate self for the

child!

>

> So far so good.... but both stay in maraksthanas for me! In Indian

context,

> see how a daughter's parents die a thousand deaths every day and pray

for

> her happiness!

> For that matter even Son's in canging times!

>

> What a Rishta of Marakas:-)

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

>

> 2009/12/14 Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

>

> >

> >

> > Dear Shri RR ji,

> >

> > With no Ma near one,

> > this world looks like just a stopover for time, some.

> >

> > With good luck for those whom Ma arrives as a form of ones wife,

satisfying

> > becomes ones Life.

> >

> > Those husbands who remember that she is Beti of someone,

> > their behaviour would then tend to become wholesome.

> >

> > For the unlucky who get a wife raging, hot and cruel,

> > they better get ready with some sandalwood for fuel.

> >

> > The " Samadhees " will have a better rappo between them,

> > if the " Samaadhan " is harboured between both of them.

> >

> > Samadhees if nurture Samadhaan

> > Successfull becomes the act of " Kanyadaan "

> >

> > I would prefer to have a good and wise Samadhan

> > who keeps close to her heart my little one

> >

> > The one whom I have received as a gift of " Kanyadaan "

> > she gives both pain and pleasure as adaan pradaan.

> >

> > But is not this what Life must be ?

> > Why must tags be attached to what we receive for free ?

> >

> > regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> > --- In

<%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> > " rohinicrystal " rohini_ranjan@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Welcome back B. bhai-saheb!

> > >

> > > I hasten to offer my two cents, because I may have brought into

this

> > Samdhi-Samdhan issue in this beautiful Shangrila (My sincere

apologies, of

> > course!...)

> > >

> > > SAMA-DHEE = similar views and visions and intellect

> > >

> > > SAMA-DHAN = will my pyaari Beti be happy and will be going to a

> > prosperous home where she will be the Queen and not Dasi! Just as

she was

> > when she lived here with her parents!

> > >

> > > Now, I do not wish to sound sexist or anything like that but

Fathers and

> > Mothers think differently and it is not about culture or times or

whatever!

> > Or maybe it is!

> > >

> > > Ever wondered why the BETI is in a trikona from BABA? While MA is

always

> > on her case from the 12th from 5th?

> > >

> > > Because MEN always are engaged in BIG THINGS that matter! Like the

> > Middle-EAST war, the terrorism, the sinking dollar or the rising

Rupee or

> > the Environment and the POOR STATE of EDUCATION GLOBALLY and what

will

> > happen to Srilanka and what if Tsunami hits us again ...! What would

be the

> > result of the next cricket match? Why is Tendulkar not immortal?

> > >

> > > While WOMEN/MAs are more worried about and engaged in useless

details

> > such as what would I feed my family tomorrow, making sure that my

children

> > have clean clothes to wear and their homework done so that the

school does

> > not call AGAIN!

> > >

> > > Even MAs that hold professional jobs and are Managers ands and

> > what not!

> > >

> > > Nuances vary but the CORE DOES NOT CHANGE!

> > >

> > > VENUS is about 'being particular, being obsessively detailed!'

> > >

> > > You will find many chemists who are ruled by Venus! For mistakes

and

> > oversight can get tricky and even dangerous!

> > >

> > > VENUS has been underestimated and under-rated! Just look at some

of the

> > most METICULOUS people and leaders and note the common thread

running

> > through their lives and messages! TAKING NOTHING FOR GRANTED!

> > >

> > > Just a personal observation that hopefully will not be taken in a

wrong

> > way!

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > > --- In

<%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > A thought crossed my mind that if the few hardliners here who

want

> > every posting to be written in English language, asked us to

translate

> > " Samdhees " or " Samdhan " , then which word in English could fit in

entirety to

> > explain to the reader, about the relation(ship) we are talking about

?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

<%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> > " Vidya " <vidyakmr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sir and Madam Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > //They are 'samdhees!' :-) It was never about Shukra or

Brihaspati,

> > but their children who were sent over to meet and got married! Of

course I

> > could be entirely wrong! What do I know? ;-)//

> > > > >

> > > > > If Shukra and Brihaspati's children got married would it not

have

> > created havoc and marital discord in their marriage assuming they

are from

> > opposite clans, one side of demonic nature the other of devata

gunas.. What

> > kind of children would they have produced with the mixing of

sanskara's?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Vidya

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

<%40yaho\

ogroups.com>,

> > " rohinicrystal " <rohini_ranjan@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear B. Bhai

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children

who

> > were sent over to meet and got married! Of course I could be

entirely wrong!

> > What do I know? ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Neelam,

 

I am really BAD at counting and math! Perhaps that is why Astrology came to me

naturally :-)

 

2nd house indeed! Kutumba sthaana it is called! Named!!

 

Amongst Bengalis, the " in-laws' are called " KUTUMBA or KUTUM...! "

 

After all, through aliances such as those can we make sure that the LINEAGE

continues ...!

 

There is another way too for LINEAGE to continue!

 

Through becoming a GURU and copyrighting the GURUDOM!

 

SERIOUSLY, Neelam jee -- that too has been tried! In the realm of Reiki when

almost a decade ago one of the GRAND MASTERS in North America tried to COPYRIGHT

Reiki, but failed of course!

 

Frank Arjava Peters, an acolyte of Rajneesh/Osho came forth and brought Reiki

Fire to the fore and reminded us all WHAT FIRE is all about!

 

 

RR_,

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First born begetting will be problemetic. The person/native will be under Jupiterian influence first. Child next.

Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Mon, 14/12/09, Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote:

Anita R <ash.rsh55Re: Re: Venus and Jupiter Date: Monday, 14 December, 2009, 1:47 PM

 

 

 

 

Dear Deepenji,Just a thought. If Ju as the 12th lord signifying all that you said lord and as 9th lord of the natural zodiac signifying guru,dharma etcc, is situated in 5th house, another dharma house signifying children, would it make the person religious / spiritual or will it make the first born religious / spiritual? Some how, I think it will make both the the parent and the child religious and spiritual. What do you say?Regards, Anita--- On Sun, 13/12/09, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ > wrote:

deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiterancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 13 December, 2009, 7:14 PM

 

 

 

 

manoj jipisces is the place where the Rishis reside ,its the place of ultimate knowledge ,calm and serene , jupiter doesnt like it as compared to dhanus rashi bcoz he likes to do the day to day religious work ,looking after the temple,giving offerings ,pujas ,anushthans and yagyas ,also the administration work which makes jupiter more happy than the ownership of pisces that is moksha sthana ....the combo you are referring with aries ascendant and 12th house venus is in Abhishek Bacchans chart ...--- On Sun, 13/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiterancient_indian_ astrologySunday, 13 December, 2009, 9:36 PM

 

 

 

Dear Deep Ji, Vidya Ji,

 

Very nice thoughts from Deep Ji, but, unfortunately Pisces is not a totally Pious sign of Jupiter. Infact it is the "negative" sign of Jupiter and THAT is one of the primary reasons Venus is exalted there. I have seen many charts with Aries rising, Venus in Pisces with Low SAV/BAV have deviant sexual behaviour (ofcourse with other afflictions) .

Regards,

-Manoj

 

 

 

 

 

Vidya <vidyakmr >ancient_indian_ astrologySun, December 13, 2009 8:13:11 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter

Dear Deep Ji,You are such a wise man..Where did you learn that? It was so beautiful the way you put it. ThanksVidyaancient_indian_ astrology, deepen thakkar <justcoolout@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji> > Venus is the love god and is always interested in  uniting 2 souls that too unconditionally so he finds himself exalted in pisces ,where pisces is deep end of ocean ,the "garbha" of true knowledge and also 2 fishes signify the union of 2 souls ...The true union between 2 souls can only occur if both of them are understanding, patient and pious which are the prime charectiristics of Guru , while finds itself in debility in virgo bcoz it is an upachay sthana and mecury as an immature student is always asking for moree and finding faults with his learning attitude while jupiter is the one who know that all knowledge lies beneath

itself and he has to not roam around to find true knowledge..> > Besides tht please pray on my behalf in Khwaja ji's Darbar and may his Rehmat be upon us for always..> > regards> deep> > --- On Sun, 13/12/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Venus and Jupiter> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 10:59 AM> > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > May be the relationship is different for the two signs! Jupiter takes fiery and watery domains whereas Shukra rules over earth and air!> > There's a Libra shukra multiplying the sagi

fires and there's a Piscean Guru nurturing the taurus earth (3/11 relationships)> > > Clubbing Tau-sagi and Pisc-Lib, we might get into challenging situations!!> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2009/12/13 Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I do not consider them as inimical. I spoke about the general considerations.> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Samdhees? That's

interesting!> > > They're said to be Samdharmees (as per Laghu Parashari). Being both great> > > benefics do they club together for a cause?> > >> > > In any case, we cannot say they're both inimical to each other. No planet is> > > inimical to GURU.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > 2009/12/13 rohinicrystal <rohini_ranjan@ ...>> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear B. Bhai> > > >> > > > They are 'samdhees!' :-)> > > >> > > > It was never about Shukra or Brihaspati, but their children who were sent> > > > over to meet and got married! Of course I could be entirely wrong! What do

I> > > > know? ;-)> > > >> > > > Rohiniranjan> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_ indian_ astrology%40gr oups. com>,> > > > > "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > It is said that Venus-Shukracharya is Guru of the evil asuras. And> > > > > Jupiter is Dev Guru. So are they inimical to each other ? If so then why> > > > > does Venus get Exalted in Pisces in sign of Jupiter ? Combination of> > > > > Venus-Jupiter is considered to be one of the best when unafflcited, for> > > > > Bhautik sukh

as well as Parlokik sukha (Material Life happiness and> > > > > thereafter). Then why are they still considered in enemy camps ?> > > > >> > > > > I will not be available for the day now, going to have darshan of> > > > > Pushkar and Ajmer-Khwajaji both.> > > > >> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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