Rahu in 8th House

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Dear Bhaskar ji, Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani - NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)[if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra effort. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally unluckiness prevails]2) As per Brigu Sutra - Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23) [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)] This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over? Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Neelamji,> Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial> gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the> points presented by your goodself, let me also present the variations> taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths associated> with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to> pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes without> saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted. It may> come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives Life,> but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received after> fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination or> retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received after> accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received. (Dowry> is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases are> not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass> wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would earn> wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai Ambani,> or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful means.> Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of derogatorily> in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the> common man, He is still respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai> Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs and> married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index even> after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to> explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet in> his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to the> state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a> person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in losses.> Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example given, is> connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native will> not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the> conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the horoscope.> We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and it> has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does give> good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also> broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is> always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on> these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be percieved> by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

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Dear Mr. Sreenadh,

 

The example given by me amply proves what Bhaskarji says. The native is in his 86th year and got riches in his Rahu Mahadasha.

 

He has always faced stomach problems now and then. The moment he feels his stomach is upset he reduces his food intake and within couple of days he is alright.

 

For ready reference the details are as under

 

DOB 16th Oct 1923

TOB 14.20 IST

POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat

 

D. D. TRIVEDI--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Rahu in 8th House Date: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 12:05 AM

Dear Bhaskar ji, Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani - NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)[if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra effort. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power and scholars will respect

him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally unluckiness prevails]2) As per Brigu Sutra - Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23) [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu is in 8th

house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)] This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over? Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Neelamji,> Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial> gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the> points presented by your goodself, let me also present the

variations> taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths associated> with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to> pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes without> saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted. It may> come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives Life,> but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received after> fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination or> retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received after> accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received. (Dowry> is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases are> not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass> wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would earn>

wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai Ambani,> or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful means.> Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of derogatorily> in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the> common man, He is still respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai> Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs and> married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index even> after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to> explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet in> his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to the> state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a> person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in losses.> Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in

5th in the example given, is> connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native will> not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the> conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the horoscope.> We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and it> has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does give> good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also> broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is> always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on> these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be percieved> by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

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Dear Sreenadhji,

 

The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be perfect to

understand when and where the writings of the sages could be applicable.

A sweetmeat is sweet and meant to be consumed, but not by a diabetic.

Snake Poison may become a medicine for a terminally ill person in pain

but for others it will remain a poison. The shlokas are couplets which

carried discussions before they were memorised between the Sage and his

disciples, and the small shloka cannot contain the entirety of the

discussions which could have happened between the Master and the

students. This was given at the end of the day to make a nutshell note

and remember what has been talked about. The shlokas cannot be fully

comprehended by us unless we get the power of intutions supplied to us

from within. I never reject the shlokas what they say, but do not cling

to these in rigidity. For me personally verifications are not justified

because I feel they could not be wrong. It is only our understanding

which is limited if we do not find what is happenning to be there also

in the wordings of the shloka in reference.

 

When a shloka mentions that " Sun in 5th will give so n so results

............. " one cannot just accept it as a scholboy memorising a poem,

because when the writer has written the results he has not taken the

other planets, their positions, their constellations, their

avasthas,aspects, etc. in assessment. This he has left for us to do and

amalgamate all results from various angles and then prepare the

judgement. Ifyou read the results given by your own goodslef you

willfind these words in the results like - if aspected by benefics,

unaspected ,Exalted ,Lord is strong etc. " .

 

Unless it is a quiz, it is assumed that the members who are putting up

details of charts, in various threads, are doing so from Live cases in

their circles.

 

Therefore the Sages shlokas can never be wrong and neither a good

astrologer who knows his job can be, in most of the cases, and it would

not be right to compare the shlokas in general with a placement in

general, without going deep in the meaning of the shloka or going deep

in the placement of a planetary position if one wants to compare with

what is mentioned in the shloka.

 

I am happy that the shlokas are not entirely applicable ad verbatim,

otherwise every Tom or Dick would have become a astrologer and taught

Harry too how to predict.

 

best wishes,

 

Love and regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

> Interesting! [:-?] But as usual, since I am more interesting in

> verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the

> classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -

> 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

> NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH

> Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

> Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

> Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

> (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

> [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra

> effort. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point

> of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power

> and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives)

will

> blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth

would

> come), generally unluckiness prevails]

> 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

> Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

> Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute

> Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

> (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

> [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord

> is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient.

> If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in

> 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th

> lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu

is

> in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well),

> 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years

of

> age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

> This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much

> courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual

> experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house

and

> for whom Rahus dasa is over?

> Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all

in

> tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Neelamji,

> > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial

> > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the

> > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the

variations

> > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths

associated

> > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to

> > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes

> without

> > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted. It

> may

> > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives

Life,

> > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received

> after

> > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination

or

> > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received

> after

> > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received.

> (Dowry

> > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases

> are

> > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass

> > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would earn

> > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai

> Ambani,

> > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful

means.

> > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of

> derogatorily

> > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the

> > common man, He is still respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai

> > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs

and

> > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index

> even

> > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to

> > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet

in

> > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to

the

> > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a

> > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in

losses.

> > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example given,

is

> > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native

will

> > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the

> > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the

> horoscope.

> > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and

> it

> > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does

> give

> > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also

> > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is

> > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on

> > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be

> percieved

> > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Scholars,

I have eighth Rahu and Rahu Dasha is also over. Can you throw some light

My DOB 9-9-1964

My TOB 11:50 Hrs

My POB Ganganagar(Rajasthan)

with warm regards

P Aggarwal

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sreenadhji,

>

> The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be perfect to

> understand when and where the writings of the sages could be applicable.

> A sweetmeat is sweet and meant to be consumed, but not by a diabetic.

> Snake Poison may become a medicine for a terminally ill person in pain

> but for others it will remain a poison. The shlokas are couplets which

> carried discussions before they were memorised between the Sage and his

> disciples, and the small shloka cannot contain the entirety of the

> discussions which could have happened between the Master and the

> students. This was given at the end of the day to make a nutshell note

> and remember what has been talked about. The shlokas cannot be fully

> comprehended by us unless we get the power of intutions supplied to us

> from within. I never reject the shlokas what they say, but do not cling

> to these in rigidity. For me personally verifications are not justified

> because I feel they could not be wrong. It is only our understanding

> which is limited if we do not find what is happenning to be there also

> in the wordings of the shloka in reference.

>

> When a shloka mentions that " Sun in 5th will give so n so results

> ............ " one cannot just accept it as a scholboy memorising a poem,

> because when the writer has written the results he has not taken the

> other planets, their positions, their constellations, their

> avasthas,aspects, etc. in assessment. This he has left for us to do and

> amalgamate all results from various angles and then prepare the

> judgement. Ifyou read the results given by your own goodslef you

> willfind these words in the results like - if aspected by benefics,

> unaspected ,Exalted ,Lord is strong etc. " .

>

> Unless it is a quiz, it is assumed that the members who are putting up

> details of charts, in various threads, are doing so from Live cases in

> their circles.

>

> Therefore the Sages shlokas can never be wrong and neither a good

> astrologer who knows his job can be, in most of the cases, and it would

> not be right to compare the shlokas in general with a placement in

> general, without going deep in the meaning of the shloka or going deep

> in the placement of a planetary position if one wants to compare with

> what is mentioned in the shloka.

>

> I am happy that the shlokas are not entirely applicable ad verbatim,

> otherwise every Tom or Dick would have become a astrologer and taught

> Harry too how to predict.

>

> best wishes,

>

> Love and regards,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

, " Sreenadh "

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > Interesting! [:-?] But as usual, since I am more interesting in

> > verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the

> > classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -

> > 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

> > NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH

> > Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

> > Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

> > Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

> > (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

> > [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra

> > effort. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point

> > of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power

> > and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives)

> will

> > blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth

> would

> > come), generally unluckiness prevails]

> > 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

> > Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

> > Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute

> > Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

> > (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

> > [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord

> > is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient.

> > If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in

> > 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th

> > lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu

> is

> > in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well),

> > 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years

> of

> > age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

> > This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much

> > courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual

> > experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house

> and

> > for whom Rahus dasa is over?

> > Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all

> in

> > tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.

> > Love and regards,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > , " Bhaskar "

> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial

> > > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the

> > > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the

> variations

> > > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths

> associated

> > > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to

> > > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes

> > without

> > > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted. It

> > may

> > > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives

> Life,

> > > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received

> > after

> > > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination

> or

> > > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received

> > after

> > > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received.

> > (Dowry

> > > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases

> > are

> > > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass

> > > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would earn

> > > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai

> > Ambani,

> > > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful

> means.

> > > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of

> > derogatorily

> > > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the

> > > common man, He is still respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai

> > > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs

> and

> > > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index

> > even

> > > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to

> > > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet

> in

> > > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to

> the

> > > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a

> > > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in

> losses.

> > > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example given,

> is

> > > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native

> will

> > > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the

> > > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the

> > horoscope.

> > > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and

> > it

> > > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does

> > give

> > > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also

> > > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is

> > > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on

> > > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be

> > percieved

> > > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Aggarwal ji,

 

The astrologers here have initiated some discussions and broken the

myths that Rahu is just bad only. They have been able to prove that rahu

is good in the 8th and also the 8th Lord is good. So connclusion is that

no planet can be termed as good or bad completely and neither Lord of

evil house too. They can in some Horoscopes do very well for the native,

whereas in others can prove very much destructive too. But no definite

rule can be termed for them as Good or Bad unless only one planet is

stationed in only one House without other planets in the sky-Horoscope.

 

Regards to your chart, it is now for you to show us some light, since

your Rahu dasha is over as accepted by you. There is no need for anyone

of us to appear for any tests. We have nothing to prove to anybody. We

are not perfect. We need inputs from members like you to show us what

you have experienced and many others like you, to actually know the

effects of the planets, to make our knowledge near perfect.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " mistry64in "

<mistry64in wrote:

>

> Respected Scholars,

> I have eighth Rahu and Rahu Dasha is also over. Can you throw some

light

> My DOB 9-9-1964

> My TOB 11:50 Hrs

> My POB Ganganagar(Rajasthan)

> with warm regards

> P Aggarwal

> , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Sreenadhji,

> >

> > The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be perfect

to

> > understand when and where the writings of the sages could be

applicable.

> > A sweetmeat is sweet and meant to be consumed, but not by a

diabetic.

> > Snake Poison may become a medicine for a terminally ill person in

pain

> > but for others it will remain a poison. The shlokas are couplets

which

> > carried discussions before they were memorised between the Sage and

his

> > disciples, and the small shloka cannot contain the entirety of the

> > discussions which could have happened between the Master and the

> > students. This was given at the end of the day to make a nutshell

note

> > and remember what has been talked about. The shlokas cannot be fully

> > comprehended by us unless we get the power of intutions supplied to

us

> > from within. I never reject the shlokas what they say, but do not

cling

> > to these in rigidity. For me personally verifications are not

justified

> > because I feel they could not be wrong. It is only our understanding

> > which is limited if we do not find what is happenning to be there

also

> > in the wordings of the shloka in reference.

> >

> > When a shloka mentions that " Sun in 5th will give so n so results

> > ............ " one cannot just accept it as a scholboy memorising a

poem,

> > because when the writer has written the results he has not taken the

> > other planets, their positions, their constellations, their

> > avasthas,aspects, etc. in assessment. This he has left for us to do

and

> > amalgamate all results from various angles and then prepare the

> > judgement. Ifyou read the results given by your own goodslef you

> > willfind these words in the results like - if aspected by benefics,

> > unaspected ,Exalted ,Lord is strong etc. " .

> >

> > Unless it is a quiz, it is assumed that the members who are putting

up

> > details of charts, in various threads, are doing so from Live cases

in

> > their circles.

> >

> > Therefore the Sages shlokas can never be wrong and neither a good

> > astrologer who knows his job can be, in most of the cases, and it

would

> > not be right to compare the shlokas in general with a placement in

> > general, without going deep in the meaning of the shloka or going

deep

> > in the placement of a planetary position if one wants to compare

with

> > what is mentioned in the shloka.

> >

> > I am happy that the shlokas are not entirely applicable ad verbatim,

> > otherwise every Tom or Dick would have become a astrologer and

taught

> > Harry too how to predict.

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > Love and regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Sreenadh "

> > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > Interesting! [:-?] But as usual, since I am more interesting in

> > > verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the

> > > classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -

> > > 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

> > > NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH

> > > Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

> > > Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

> > > Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

> > > (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

> > > [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by

extra

> > > effort. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some

point

> > > of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in

power

> > > and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives)

> > will

> > > blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth

> > would

> > > come), generally unluckiness prevails]

> > > 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

> > > Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

> > > Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute

> > > Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

> > > (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

> > > [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th

lord

> > > is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a

patient.

> > > If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that

Rahu in

> > > 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and

8th

> > > lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If

Rahu

> > is

> > > in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as

well),

> > > 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60

years

> > of

> > > age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

> > > This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much

> > > courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual

> > > experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th

house

> > and

> > > for whom Rahus dasa is over?

> > > Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at

all

> > in

> > > tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal

financial

> > > > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to

the

> > > > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the

> > variations

> > > > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths

> > associated

> > > > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come

through to

> > > > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes

> > > without

> > > > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted.

It

> > > may

> > > > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives

> > Life,

> > > > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy

received

> > > after

> > > > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after

termination

> > or

> > > > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money

received

> > > after

> > > > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry

received.

> > > (Dowry

> > > > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These

cases

> > > are

> > > > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who

amass

> > > > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would

earn

> > > > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai

> > > Ambani,

> > > > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful

> > means.

> > > > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of

> > > derogatorily

> > > > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to

the

> > > > common man, He is still respected by people like myself.

Dhirubhai

> > > > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt

lakhs

> > and

> > > > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the

Index

> > > even

> > > > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to

> > > > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the

planet

> > in

> > > > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him

to

> > the

> > > > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get

a

> > > > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in

> > losses.

> > > > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example

given,

> > is

> > > > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the

native

> > will

> > > > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the

> > > > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the

> > > horoscope.

> > > > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet ,

and

> > > it

> > > > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu

does

> > > give

> > > > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have

also

> > > > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord

is

> > > > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time

on

> > > > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be

> > > percieved

> > > > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Mohit JI Can u giv some astrological reasons also along with ur mails other than putting that luggage of explaing it over and over again ( as many times it will drag discussions to diffrnt aspects which is already discussed in grp ,sure sreenadh ji was quoting rishi Hora s and not predicting any spl charts -so u r mail comes under longitivity part tho sreenadh ji mail it is mentioned that rahu in 8th house can giv bad effects to even longitivity ) on other ppl s shoulder and then this discussion will b more lively and colorful than dry where many many prediction seekers r ready to pounce frm every nook and corner of grp the momnt they find some discussions related to their chart is there .Even many dont care where rahu sits in chart even .The momnt they see the rahu discussions posts the charts without even respecting the other persons time he spent on such discussions and taunting them in the name of discussion So i request u to add u r share also in discussion ,sure u may say u r novice in astrology or old student ,let it b ,but pls contribute more frm ur side too .Hope u understand my points and u will contribute more and add more power to discussions as we all r jointly investigating and not simply declaring results on every astro dictums .Thanks for posting data s and keep it up rgrds sunil nair , Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33 wrote:>> Respected Sreenadh g,> > Well i did an example of my Dad who has Rahu in 8th house is live n kicking at the age of 62yrs Well his Birth Details r 19-08-1947 Time is 11.05.00 am Place is Dehradun, Thanks Mohit> > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Sreenadh sreesog Re: Rahu in 8th House> > Monday, August 10, 2009, 6:35 PM> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -> 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -> NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH> Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH> Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti> Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH> (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)> [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra effort.. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally unluckiness prevails]> 2) As per Brigu Sutra -> Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman> Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute> Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam> (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)> [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]> This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over?> Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Neelamji,> > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial> > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the> > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the variations> > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths associated> > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to> > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes without> > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted. It may> > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives Life,> > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received after> > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination or> > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received after> > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received. (Dowry> > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases are> > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass> > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would earn> > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai Ambani,> > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful means.> > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of derogatorily> > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the> > common man, He is still respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai> > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs and> > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index even> > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to> > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet in> > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to the> > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a> > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in losses.> > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example given, is> > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native will> > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the> > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the horoscope.> > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and it> > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does give> > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also> > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is> > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on> > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be percieved> > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.>

[Guest guest]

Respected Astrologer Friends,

 

I have been with great interest studying many contributions from learned friends, and I thought to send in my views. I have many references to list in support of my observations which could lengthen this reply. I would like to be precise.

 

Generally, occupying 8th house from Lagna or Chandra position for Rahu, it is not a good position. Perhaps, in very few cases to quote, its association with a good planet in that house, in a favourable sign, will give good results in its sub-period in the major period of a favourable planet. I have also found such sub-period to uccur to a native after 42 years, make native financially comfortable, wealthy in his early standards, and also acquire properties or assets - many accredited and related to the favourable Planets influencing the Desa Natha.

Also, if the owner of 8th house occupies the eighth house with Rahu or aspect Rahu, the native falls sick --range and intensity of sickness directly related to those attributed to the aspecting planet and its occupation - during the major or sub periods or transit of Rahu in that house of occupation in 'Gochara' movement. Further, Rahu in 8th house, usually tends to make native face many difficulties from his children, financial crises in family and in native's own health when Rahu has any form of 'sambandha' with the performing Desa, during its influencing periods. Further, such occupation of 8th house Rahu, will induce the native to have high sex urge and may gratify it by having secret liaisons with women/man of ill repute, to have sexually transmitted disease and bring ill-repute for rest of his/her life with sufferings. A mis-placed Rahu, without any 'sambanda' of good relations with benefic

planets in the chart, placed in 8th house from lagna, the native will suffer trouble caused by his enemies, live in desperation, and - in given relations with Desa Natha - there is chance of his getting incarcerated. There could be an effect for this native to have a partner in life through marriage, who would talk ruthlessly all the time, inviting unpleasant married life.

 

Regards to all,

A.V.Pathi,

 

 

 

 

Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 8:27:24 AM Re: Rahu in 8th House

Respected Sreenadh g, Well i did an example of my Dad who has Rahu in 8th house is live n kicking at the age of 62yrs Well his Birth Details r 19-08-1947 Time is 11.05.00 am Place is Dehradun, Thanks Mohit--- On Mon, 8/10/09, Sreenadh <sreesog > wrote:Sreenadh <sreesog >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th Houseancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, August 10, 2009, 6:35 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani - NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)[if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra effort.. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in

power and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally unluckiness prevails]2) As per Brigu Sutra - Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23) [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45

years of age. If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)] This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over? Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Neelamji,> Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial> gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the> points presented by your goodself, let me

also present the variations> taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths associated> with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to> pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes without> saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted. It may> come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives Life,> but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received after> fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination or> retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received after> accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received. (Dowry> is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases are> not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass> wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician

would earn> wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai Ambani,> or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful means.> Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of derogatorily> in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the> common man, He is still respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai> Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs and> married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index even> after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to> explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet in> his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to the> state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a> person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in losses.> Unless this 8th Lord

apart from being in 5th in the example given, is> connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native will> not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the> conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the horoscope.> We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and it> has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does give> good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also> broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is> always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on> these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be percieved> by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

[Guest guest]

I also have Rahu in the 8th house , the highlights of this period are as follows :Birth Details

Date of birth : 13 March 1972

Time of birth : 13:14 min

Place of birth : Varanasi UP India

Current Place of Residence : Hyderabad AP IndiaEducation was made horrible , Actually I was scared to go to school Education broke ....changed schooling from English medium to Hindi medium , Was away from home for 2 years to my Tau jis house 1986-1988 this was an eye opener periodGot skin disease 1987 ......which is incurable till now..this is an auto immune disease Worked very hard got X (67%) - 1988Worked harder got XII 50% --19902 Years preapred for Engg but did not success ed Joined B. Com 1993 correspondence course........... passed out 1995 III divMy youth was ruined in this Rahu period , I was scared with every thing around me .venkatachala pathi <pathiav Sent: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009 2:15:51 PMRe: Re: Rahu in 8th House

 

 

 

Respected Astrologer Friends,

 

I have been with great interest studying many contributions from learned friends, and I thought to send in my views. I have many references to list in support of my observations which could lengthen this reply. I would like to be precise.

 

Generally, occupying 8th house from Lagna or Chandra position for Rahu, it is not a good position. Perhaps, in very few cases to quote, its association with a good planet in that house, in a favourable sign, will give good results in its sub-period in the major period of a favourable planet. I have also found such sub-period to uccur to a native after 42 years, make native financially comfortable, wealthy in his early standards, and also acquire properties or assets - many accredited and related to the favourable Planets influencing the Desa Natha.

Also, if the owner of 8th house occupies the eighth house with Rahu or aspect Rahu, the native falls sick --range and intensity of sickness directly related to those attributed to the aspecting planet and its occupation - during the major or sub periods or transit of Rahu in that house of occupation in 'Gochara' movement. Further, Rahu in 8th house, usually tends to make native face many difficulties from his children, financial crises in family and in native's own health when Rahu has any form of 'sambandha' with the performing Desa, during its influencing periods. Further, such occupation of 8th house Rahu, will induce the native to have high sex urge and may gratify it by having secret liaisons with women/man of ill repute, to have sexually transmitted disease and bring ill-repute for rest of his/her life with sufferings. A mis-placed Rahu, without any 'sambanda' of good relations with benefic

planets in the chart, placed in 8th house from lagna, the native will suffer trouble caused by his enemies, live in desperation, and - in given relations with Desa Natha - there is chance of his getting incarcerated. There could be an effect for this native to have a partner in life through marriage, who would talk ruthlessly all the time, inviting unpleasant married life.

 

Regards to all,

A.V.Pathi,

 

 

 

 

Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, August 11, 2009 8:27:24 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th House

Respected Sreenadh g, Well i did an example of my Dad who has Rahu in 8th house is live n kicking at the age of 62yrs Well his Birth Details r 19-08-1947 Time is 11.05..00 am Place is Dehradun, Thanks Mohit--- On Mon, 8/10/09, Sreenadh <sreesog > wrote:Sreenadh <sreesog >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th Houseancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, August 10, 2009, 6:35 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani - NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)[if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra effort.. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in

power and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally unluckiness prevails]2) As per Brigu Sutra - Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam (Brigusutram Ch..8 Sl 22-23) [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45

years of age. If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)] This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over? Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Neelamji,> Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial> gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the> points presented by your goodself, let me

also present the variations> taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths associated> with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to> pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes without> saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted. It may> come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives Life,> but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received after> fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination or> retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received after> accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received. (Dowry> is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases are> not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass> wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician

would earn> wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai Ambani,> or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful means.> Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of derogatorily> in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the> common man, He is still respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai> Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs and> married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index even> after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to> explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet in> his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to the> state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a> person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in losses.> Unless this 8th Lord

apart from being in 5th in the example given, is> connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native will> not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the> conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the horoscope.> We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and it> has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does give> good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also> broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is> always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on> these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be percieved> by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

 

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Respected Scholars,

Thanks for the reply. I just wanted to present my case being eighth Rahu and

eighth lord Budh in Kendra ie 10th house. I was under Rahu Mahadasa from june 67

to june 85.As far as I remember this period by and large has been very good. I

excelled in studies, remained topper througout and was in the middle of

engineering degree in 1985. I did top the engineering exam.Please note I am

giving this information for your further research and not to test your

knowledge, BTW I know nothing about astrology

With warm regards

P Aggarwal

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

>

> Respected Aggarwal ji,

>

> The astrologers here have initiated some discussions and broken the

> myths that Rahu is just bad only. They have been able to prove that rahu

> is good in the 8th and also the 8th Lord is good. So connclusion is that

> no planet can be termed as good or bad completely and neither Lord of

> evil house too. They can in some Horoscopes do very well for the native,

> whereas in others can prove very much destructive too. But no definite

> rule can be termed for them as Good or Bad unless only one planet is

> stationed in only one House without other planets in the sky-Horoscope.

>

> Regards to your chart, it is now for you to show us some light, since

> your Rahu dasha is over as accepted by you. There is no need for anyone

> of us to appear for any tests. We have nothing to prove to anybody. We

> are not perfect. We need inputs from members like you to show us what

> you have experienced and many others like you, to actually know the

> effects of the planets, to make our knowledge near perfect.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

, " mistry64in "

> <mistry64in@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Scholars,

> > I have eighth Rahu and Rahu Dasha is also over. Can you throw some

> light

> > My DOB 9-9-1964

> > My TOB 11:50 Hrs

> > My POB Ganganagar(Rajasthan)

> > with warm regards

> > P Aggarwal

> > , " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadhji,

> > >

> > > The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be perfect

> to

> > > understand when and where the writings of the sages could be

> applicable.

> > > A sweetmeat is sweet and meant to be consumed, but not by a

> diabetic.

> > > Snake Poison may become a medicine for a terminally ill person in

> pain

> > > but for others it will remain a poison. The shlokas are couplets

> which

> > > carried discussions before they were memorised between the Sage and

> his

> > > disciples, and the small shloka cannot contain the entirety of the

> > > discussions which could have happened between the Master and the

> > > students. This was given at the end of the day to make a nutshell

> note

> > > and remember what has been talked about. The shlokas cannot be fully

> > > comprehended by us unless we get the power of intutions supplied to

> us

> > > from within. I never reject the shlokas what they say, but do not

> cling

> > > to these in rigidity. For me personally verifications are not

> justified

> > > because I feel they could not be wrong. It is only our understanding

> > > which is limited if we do not find what is happenning to be there

> also

> > > in the wordings of the shloka in reference.

> > >

> > > When a shloka mentions that " Sun in 5th will give so n so results

> > > ............ " one cannot just accept it as a scholboy memorising a

> poem,

> > > because when the writer has written the results he has not taken the

> > > other planets, their positions, their constellations, their

> > > avasthas,aspects, etc. in assessment. This he has left for us to do

> and

> > > amalgamate all results from various angles and then prepare the

> > > judgement. Ifyou read the results given by your own goodslef you

> > > willfind these words in the results like - if aspected by benefics,

> > > unaspected ,Exalted ,Lord is strong etc. " .

> > >

> > > Unless it is a quiz, it is assumed that the members who are putting

> up

> > > details of charts, in various threads, are doing so from Live cases

> in

> > > their circles.

> > >

> > > Therefore the Sages shlokas can never be wrong and neither a good

> > > astrologer who knows his job can be, in most of the cases, and it

> would

> > > not be right to compare the shlokas in general with a placement in

> > > general, without going deep in the meaning of the shloka or going

> deep

> > > in the placement of a planetary position if one wants to compare

> with

> > > what is mentioned in the shloka.

> > >

> > > I am happy that the shlokas are not entirely applicable ad verbatim,

> > > otherwise every Tom or Dick would have become a astrologer and

> taught

> > > Harry too how to predict.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Love and regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Sreenadh "

> > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > Interesting! [:-?] But as usual, since I am more interesting in

> > > > verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the

> > > > classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -

> > > > 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

> > > > NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH

> > > > Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

> > > > Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

> > > > Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

> > > > (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

> > > > [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by

> extra

> > > > effort. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some

> point

> > > > of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in

> power

> > > > and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives)

> > > will

> > > > blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth

> > > would

> > > > come), generally unluckiness prevails]

> > > > 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

> > > > Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

> > > > Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute

> > > > Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

> > > > (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

> > > > [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th

> lord

> > > > is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a

> patient.

> > > > If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that

> Rahu in

> > > > 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and

> 8th

> > > > lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If

> Rahu

> > > is

> > > > in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as

> well),

> > > > 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60

> years

> > > of

> > > > age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

> > > > This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much

> > > > courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual

> > > > experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th

> house

> > > and

> > > > for whom Rahus dasa is over?

> > > > Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at

> all

> > > in

> > > > tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > > , " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > > > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal

> financial

> > > > > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to

> the

> > > > > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the

> > > variations

> > > > > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths

> > > associated

> > > > > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come

> through to

> > > > > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes

> > > > without

> > > > > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted.

> It

> > > > may

> > > > > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives

> > > Life,

> > > > > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy

> received

> > > > after

> > > > > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after

> termination

> > > or

> > > > > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money

> received

> > > > after

> > > > > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry

> received.

> > > > (Dowry

> > > > > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These

> cases

> > > > are

> > > > > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who

> amass

> > > > > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would

> earn

> > > > > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai

> > > > Ambani,

> > > > > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful

> > > means.

> > > > > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of

> > > > derogatorily

> > > > > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to

> the

> > > > > common man, He is still respected by people like myself.

> Dhirubhai

> > > > > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt

> lakhs

> > > and

> > > > > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the

> Index

> > > > even

> > > > > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to

> > > > > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the

> planet

> > > in

> > > > > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him

> to

> > > the

> > > > > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get

> a

> > > > > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in

> > > losses.

> > > > > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example

> given,

> > > is

> > > > > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the

> native

> > > will

> > > > > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the

> > > > > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the

> > > > horoscope.

> > > > > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet ,

> and

> > > > it

> > > > > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu

> does

> > > > give

> > > > > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have

> also

> > > > > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord

> is

> > > > > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time

> on

> > > > > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be

> > > > percieved

> > > > > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

dear sirs,

even i have rahu in the 8th house in Tula raashi and the 8th lord is

Venus in lagna exalted 27deg.

My venus mahadasha is going on. And my venus-venus-rahu has gone medium,

it has increased my devotion to god more.

I am also a new person to astrology.

Rahu in 8th with hershal. In Tula.

regards,

kanishk.

At 03:13 PM 8/11/2009, you wrote:

Respected Scholars,

Thanks for the reply. I just wanted to present my case being eighth Rahu

and eighth lord Budh in Kendra ie 10th house. I was under Rahu Mahadasa

from june 67 to june 85.As far as I remember this period by and large has

been very good. I excelled in studies, remained topper througout and was

in the middle of engineering degree in 1985. I did top the engineering

exam.Please note I am giving this information for your further research

and not to test your knowledge, BTW I know nothing about astrology

With warm regards

P Aggarwal

--- In

 

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Respected Aggarwal ji,

>

> The astrologers here have initiated some discussions and broken

the

> myths that Rahu is just bad only. They have been able to prove that

rahu

> is good in the 8th and also the 8th Lord is good. So connclusion is

that

> no planet can be termed as good or bad completely and neither Lord

of

> evil house too. They can in some Horoscopes do very well for the

native,

> whereas in others can prove very much destructive too. But no

definite

> rule can be termed for them as Good or Bad unless only one planet

is

> stationed in only one House without other planets in the

sky-Horoscope.

>

> Regards to your chart, it is now for you to show us some light,

since

> your Rahu dasha is over as accepted by you. There is no need for

anyone

> of us to appear for any tests. We have nothing to prove to anybody.

We

> are not perfect. We need inputs from members like you to show us

what

> you have experienced and many others like you, to actually know

the

> effects of the planets, to make our knowledge near perfect.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- In

 

, " mistry64in "

> <mistry64in@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Scholars,

> > I have eighth Rahu and Rahu Dasha is also over. Can you throw

some

> light

> > My DOB 9-9-1964

> > My TOB 11:50 Hrs

> > My POB Ganganagar(Rajasthan)

> > with warm regards

> > P Aggarwal

> > --- In

 

, " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadhji,

> > >

> > > The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be

perfect

> to

> > > understand when and where the writings of the sages could

be

> applicable.

> > > A sweetmeat is sweet and meant to be consumed, but not by

a

> diabetic.

> > > Snake Poison may become a medicine for a terminally ill

person in

> pain

> > > but for others it will remain a poison. The shlokas are

couplets

> which

> > > carried discussions before they were memorised between the

Sage and

> his

> > > disciples, and the small shloka cannot contain the

entirety of the

> > > discussions which could have happened between the Master

and the

> > > students. This was given at the end of the day to make a

nutshell

> note

> > > and remember what has been talked about. The shlokas

cannot be fully

> > > comprehended by us unless we get the power of intutions

supplied to

> us

> > > from within. I never reject the shlokas what they say, but

do not

> cling

> > > to these in rigidity. For me personally verifications are

not

> justified

> > > because I feel they could not be wrong. It is only our

understanding

> > > which is limited if we do not find what is happenning to

be there

> also

> > > in the wordings of the shloka in reference.

> > >

> > > When a shloka mentions that " Sun in 5th will give so

n so results

> > > ............ " one cannot just accept it as a scholboy

memorising a

> poem,

> > > because when the writer has written the results he has not

taken the

> > > other planets, their positions, their constellations,

their

> > > avasthas,aspects, etc. in assessment. This he has left for

us to do

> and

> > > amalgamate all results from various angles and then

prepare the

> > > judgement. Ifyou read the results given by your own

goodslef you

> > > willfind these words in the results like - if aspected by

benefics,

> > > unaspected ,Exalted ,Lord is strong etc. " .

> > >

> > > Unless it is a quiz, it is assumed that the members who

are putting

> up

> > > details of charts, in various threads, are doing so from

Live cases

> in

> > > their circles.

> > >

> > > Therefore the Sages shlokas can never be wrong and neither

a good

> > > astrologer who knows his job can be, in most of the cases,

and it

> would

> > > not be right to compare the shlokas in general with a

placement in

> > > general, without going deep in the meaning of the shloka

or going

> deep

> > > in the placement of a planetary position if one wants to

compare

> with

> > > what is mentioned in the shloka.

> > >

> > > I am happy that the shlokas are not entirely applicable ad

verbatim,

> > > otherwise every Tom or Dick would have become a astrologer

and

> taught

> > > Harry too how to predict.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Love and regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

 

, " Sreenadh "

> > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > Interesting! [:-?] But as usual, since I am more

interesting in

> > > > verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will

quote what the

> > > > classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -

> > > > 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

> > > > NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH

> > > > Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

> > > > Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

> > > > Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

> > > > (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

> > > > [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble

caused by

> extra

> > > > effort. He will loss all his money and people's

support (at some

> point

> > > > of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though

the people in

> power

> > > > and scholars will respect him, the people close to

him (relatives)

> > > will

> > > > blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow

(and wealth

> > > would

> > > > come), generally unluckiness prevails]

> > > > 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

> > > > Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

> > > > Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe

balayute

> > > > Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

> > > > (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

> > > > [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by

benefics, and 8th

> lord

> > > > is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will

become a

> patient.

> > > > If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only.

But if that

> Rahu in

> > > > 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by

benefics and

> 8th

> > > > lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years

of age. If

> Rahu

> > > is

> > > > in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by

benefics as

> well),

> > > > 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may

live upto 60

> years

> > > of

> > > > age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

> > > > This is a very interesting and strong observation! If

takes much

> > > > courage to speakout such strong results! What are

your actual

> > > > experiences - can anyone provide real charts with

Rahu in 8th

> house

> > > and

> > > > for whom Rahus dasa is over?

> > > > Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th

house is not at

> all

> > > in

> > > > tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in

this group.

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > > --- In

 

, " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > > > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than

the normal

> financial

> > > > > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary.

While agreeing to

> the

> > > > > points presented by your goodself, let me also

present the

> > > variations

> > > > > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break

the myths

> > > associated

> > > > > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would

only come

> through to

> > > > > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a

pre-requsite which goes

> > > > without

> > > > > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not

always tainted.

> It

> > > > may

> > > > > come to be received after some sorrowful

hapenning in a natives

> > > Life,

> > > > > but not necessarily coming from taint. For

example legacy

> received

> > > > after

> > > > > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd

received after

> termination

> > > or

> > > > > retirement from job/service. For example

Insurance money

> received

> > > > after

> > > > > accident or someones death in family. For

example Dowry

> received.

> > > > (Dowry

> > > > > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy

about). These

> cases

> > > > are

> > > > > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The

Bogus Gurus who

> amass

> > > > > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty

Politician would

> earn

> > > > > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh

Bacchan, Dhirubhai

> > > > Ambani,

> > > > > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money

through rightful

> > > means.

> > > > > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been

written of

> > > > derogatorily

> > > > > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make

a difference to

> the

> > > > > common man, He is still respected by people like

myself.

> Dhirubhai

> > > > > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many

have eearnt

> lakhs

> > > and

> > > > > married of their daughters and is still today a

pivot of the

> Index

> > > > even

> > > > > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan

theres no need to

> > > > > explain, but astrologically has Chitra

constellation on the

> planet

> > > in

> > > > > his 8th again related to the houses of gains

which brought him

> to

> > > the

> > > > > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th

will never get

> a

> > > > > person money from the Stock market, and instead

will bring in

> > > losses.

> > > > > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in

the example

> given,

> > > is

> > > > > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or

the 6th, the

> native

> > > will

> > > > > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again

bringing us to the

> > > > > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be

there in the

> > > > horoscope.

> > > > > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil

or bad planet ,

> and

> > > > it

> > > > > has been proved conclusively with few example

charts that Rahu

> does

> > > > give

> > > > > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may

call it. We have

> also

> > > > > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad

or the 8th Lord

> is

> > > > > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on

while spending time

> on

> > > > > these Groups, to break myths and bring the

truths closer to be

> > > > percieved

> > > > > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

 

 

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Dear friend,

 

You will get education, by any other planet. or the 4th house and 5th house..

the powerful moon or sun.  the jupiter may be in a gud position, can make aspect

with 4th and 5h house.

 

may be the rahu has +vly effected with jupiter or mercury. may be a rahu is in

virgo, mithuna, dhanu or meena rashi.

 

 

one can get good education, only from +ve 4th and 5th house. else less chance.

OR +ve moon.

 

another it is good, u have crossed this in ur childhood. Next dasa is for 85 -01

for guru and 01 -17 is for shani dasa. now ur in shani dasa.

 

Still than u faced financial problem that moment. in ur family.  The reason u

did well in rahu dasa, because ur rahu is in budha rashi, ie gemini or virgo. 

in this sign budha give good reults. So u did well, same time period u faced

financial problem.

 

there is no other logic.

 

so friend, u can not predict any thing with a single factor. the whole kundli

should be there.

 

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 11/8/09, mistry64in <mistry64in wrote:

 

mistry64in <mistry64in

Re: Rahu in 8th House

 

Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 2:43 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Respected Scholars,

 

Thanks for the reply. I just wanted to present my case being eighth Rahu and

eighth lord Budh in Kendra ie 10th house. I was under Rahu Mahadasa from june 67

to june 85.As far as I remember this period by and large has been very good. I

excelled in studies, remained topper througout and was in the middle of

engineering degree in 1985. I did top the engineering exam.Please note I am

giving this information for your further research and not to test your

knowledge, BTW I know nothing about astrology

 

With warm regards

 

P Aggarwal

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@

....> wrote:

 

>

 

>

 

> Respected Aggarwal ji,

 

>

 

> The astrologers here have initiated some discussions and broken the

 

> myths that Rahu is just bad only. They have been able to prove that rahu

 

> is good in the 8th and also the 8th Lord is good. So connclusion is that

 

> no planet can be termed as good or bad completely and neither Lord of

 

> evil house too. They can in some Horoscopes do very well for the native,

 

> whereas in others can prove very much destructive too. But no definite

 

> rule can be termed for them as Good or Bad unless only one planet is

 

> stationed in only one House without other planets in the sky-Horoscope..

 

>

 

> Regards to your chart, it is now for you to show us some light, since

 

> your Rahu dasha is over as accepted by you. There is no need for anyone

 

> of us to appear for any tests. We have nothing to prove to anybody. We

 

> are not perfect. We need inputs from members like you to show us what

 

> you have experienced and many others like you, to actually know the

 

> effects of the planets, to make our knowledge near perfect.

 

>

 

> regards/Bhaskar.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " mistry64in "

 

> <mistry64in@ > wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Respected Scholars,

 

> > I have eighth Rahu and Rahu Dasha is also over. Can you throw some

 

> light

 

> > My DOB 9-9-1964

 

> > My TOB 11:50 Hrs

 

> > My POB Ganganagar(Rajastha n)

 

> > with warm regards

 

> > P Aggarwal

 

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

 

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear Sreenadhji,

 

> > >

 

> > > The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be perfect

 

> to

 

> > > understand when and where the writings of the sages could be

 

> applicable.

 

> > > A sweetmeat is sweet and meant to be consumed, but not by a

 

> diabetic.

 

> > > Snake Poison may become a medicine for a terminally ill person in

 

> pain

 

> > > but for others it will remain a poison. The shlokas are couplets

 

> which

 

> > > carried discussions before they were memorised between the Sage and

 

> his

 

> > > disciples, and the small shloka cannot contain the entirety of the

 

> > > discussions which could have happened between the Master and the

 

> > > students. This was given at the end of the day to make a nutshell

 

> note

 

> > > and remember what has been talked about. The shlokas cannot be fully

 

> > > comprehended by us unless we get the power of intutions supplied to

 

> us

 

> > > from within. I never reject the shlokas what they say, but do not

 

> cling

 

> > > to these in rigidity. For me personally verifications are not

 

> justified

 

> > > because I feel they could not be wrong. It is only our understanding

 

> > > which is limited if we do not find what is happenning to be there

 

> also

 

> > > in the wordings of the shloka in reference.

 

> > >

 

> > > When a shloka mentions that " Sun in 5th will give so n so results

 

> > > ............ " one cannot just accept it as a scholboy memorising a

 

> poem,

 

> > > because when the writer has written the results he has not taken the

 

> > > other planets, their positions, their constellations, their

 

> > > avasthas,aspects, etc. in assessment. This he has left for us to do

 

> and

 

> > > amalgamate all results from various angles and then prepare the

 

> > > judgement. Ifyou read the results given by your own goodslef you

 

> > > willfind these words in the results like - if aspected by benefics,

 

> > > unaspected ,Exalted ,Lord is strong etc. " .

 

> > >

 

> > > Unless it is a quiz, it is assumed that the members who are putting

 

> up

 

> > > details of charts, in various threads, are doing so from Live cases

 

> in

 

> > > their circles.

 

> > >

 

> > > Therefore the Sages shlokas can never be wrong and neither a good

 

> > > astrologer who knows his job can be, in most of the cases, and it

 

> would

 

> > > not be right to compare the shlokas in general with a placement in

 

> > > general, without going deep in the meaning of the shloka or going

 

> deep

 

> > > in the placement of a planetary position if one wants to compare

 

> with

 

> > > what is mentioned in the shloka.

 

> > >

 

> > > I am happy that the shlokas are not entirely applicable ad verbatim,

 

> > > otherwise every Tom or Dick would have become a astrologer and

 

> taught

 

> > > Harry too how to predict.

 

> > >

 

> > > best wishes,

 

> > >

 

> > > Love and regards,

 

> > >

 

> > > Bhaskar.

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh "

 

> > > <sreesog@> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

> > > > Interesting! [:-?] But as usual, since I am more interesting in

 

> > > > verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the

 

> > > > classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -

 

> > > > 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

 

> > > > NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH

 

> > > > Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

 

> > > > Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

 

> > > > Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

 

> > > > (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

 

> > > > [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by

 

> extra

 

> > > > effort. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some

 

> point

 

> > > > of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in

 

> power

 

> > > > and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives)

 

> > > will

 

> > > > blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth

 

> > > would

 

> > > > come), generally unluckiness prevails]

 

> > > > 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

 

> > > > Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

 

> > > > Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute

 

> > > > Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

 

> > > > (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

 

> > > > [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th

 

> lord

 

> > > > is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a

 

> patient.

 

> > > > If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that

 

> Rahu in

 

> > > > 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and

 

> 8th

 

> > > > lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If

 

> Rahu

 

> > > is

 

> > > > in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as

 

> well),

 

> > > > 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60

 

> years

 

> > > of

 

> > > > age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

 

> > > > This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much

 

> > > > courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual

 

> > > > experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th

 

> house

 

> > > and

 

> > > > for whom Rahus dasa is over?

 

> > > > Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at

 

> all

 

> > > in

 

> > > > tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.

 

> > > > Love and regards,

 

> > > > Sreenadh

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

 

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Dear Neelamji,

 

> > > > > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal

 

> financial

 

> > > > > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to

 

> the

 

> > > > > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the

 

> > > variations

 

> > > > > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths

 

> > > associated

 

> > > > > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come

 

> through to

 

> > > > > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes

 

> > > > without

 

> > > > > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted..

 

> It

 

> > > > may

 

> > > > > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives

 

> > > Life,

 

> > > > > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy

 

> received

 

> > > > after

 

> > > > > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after

 

> termination

 

> > > or

 

> > > > > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money

 

> received

 

> > > > after

 

> > > > > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry

 

> received.

 

> > > > (Dowry

 

> > > > > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These

 

> cases

 

> > > > are

 

> > > > > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who

 

> amass

 

> > > > > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would

 

> earn

 

> > > > > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai

 

> > > > Ambani,

 

> > > > > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful

 

> > > means.

 

> > > > > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of

 

> > > > derogatorily

 

> > > > > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to

 

> the

 

> > > > > common man, He is still respected by people like myself.

 

> Dhirubhai

 

> > > > > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt

 

> lakhs

 

> > > and

 

> > > > > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the

 

> Index

 

> > > > even

 

> > > > > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to

 

> > > > > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the

 

> planet

 

> > > in

 

> > > > > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him

 

> to

 

> > > the

 

> > > > > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get

 

> a

 

> > > > > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in

 

> > > losses.

 

> > > > > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example

 

> given,

 

> > > is

 

> > > > > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the

 

> native

 

> > > will

 

> > > > > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the

 

> > > > > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the

 

> > > > horoscope.

 

> > > > > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet ,

 

> and

 

> > > > it

 

> > > > > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu

 

> does

 

> > > > give

 

> > > > > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have

 

> also

 

> > > > > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord

 

> is

 

> > > > > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time

 

> on

 

> > > > > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be

 

> > > > percieved

 

> > > > > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

 

> > > >

 

> > >

 

> >

 

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear friend,

 

Pisces lagna with exalted venus itself is

 

sufficient to induce spirituality into you.

 

Regards,

 

Mrutyunjay Tripathy

 

 

, kanishk

<kanishk.chakravarty wrote:

>

> dear sirs,

>

> even i have rahu in the 8th house in Tula raashi and

> the 8th lord is Venus in lagna exalted 27deg.

> My venus mahadasha is going on. And my venus-venus-rahu has gone

> medium, it has increased my devotion to god more.

> I am also a new person to astrology.

>

> Rahu in 8th with hershal. In Tula.

> regards,

> kanishk.

>

> At 03:13 PM 8/11/2009, you wrote:

> >

> >

> >Respected Scholars,

> >Thanks for the reply. I just wanted to present my case being eighth

> >Rahu and eighth lord Budh in Kendra ie 10th house. I was under Rahu

> >Mahadasa from june 67 to june 85.As far as I remember this period by

> >and large has been very good. I excelled in studies, remained topper

> >througout and was in the middle of engineering degree in 1985. I did

> >top the engineering exam.Please note I am giving this information

> >for your further research and not to test your knowledge, BTW I know

> >nothing about astrology

> >With warm regards

> >P Aggarwal

> >--- In

>

><%40>@yah\

oogroups.com,

> > " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected Aggarwal ji,

> > >

> > > The astrologers here have initiated some discussions and broken the

> > > myths that Rahu is just bad only. They have been able to prove that rahu

> > > is good in the 8th and also the 8th Lord is good. So connclusion is that

> > > no planet can be termed as good or bad completely and neither Lord of

> > > evil house too. They can in some Horoscopes do very well for the native,

> > > whereas in others can prove very much destructive too. But no definite

> > > rule can be termed for them as Good or Bad unless only one planet is

> > > stationed in only one House without other planets in the sky-Horoscope.

> > >

> > > Regards to your chart, it is now for you to show us some light, since

> > > your Rahu dasha is over as accepted by you. There is no need for anyone

> > > of us to appear for any tests. We have nothing to prove to anybody. We

> > > are not perfect. We need inputs from members like you to show us what

> > > you have experienced and many others like you, to actually know the

> > > effects of the planets, to make our knowledge near perfect.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In

> >

<%40>@yaho\

ogroups.com,

> > " mistry64in "

> > > <mistry64in@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Scholars,

> > > > I have eighth Rahu and Rahu Dasha is also over. Can you throw some

> > > light

> > > > My DOB 9-9-1964

> > > > My TOB 11:50 Hrs

> > > > My POB Ganganagar(Rajasthan)

> > > > with warm regards

> > > > P Aggarwal

> > > > --- In

> >

<%40>@yaho\

ogroups.com,

> > " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sreenadhji,

> > > > >

> > > > > The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be perfect

> > > to

> > > > > understand when and where the writings of the sages could be

> > > applicable.

> > > > > A sweetmeat is sweet and meant to be consumed, but not by a

> > > diabetic.

> > > > > Snake Poison may become a medicine for a terminally ill person in

> > > pain

> > > > > but for others it will remain a poison. The shlokas are couplets

> > > which

> > > > > carried discussions before they were memorised between the Sage and

> > > his

> > > > > disciples, and the small shloka cannot contain the entirety of the

> > > > > discussions which could have happened between the Master and the

> > > > > students. This was given at the end of the day to make a nutshell

> > > note

> > > > > and remember what has been talked about. The shlokas cannot be fully

> > > > > comprehended by us unless we get the power of intutions supplied to

> > > us

> > > > > from within. I never reject the shlokas what they say, but do not

> > > cling

> > > > > to these in rigidity. For me personally verifications are not

> > > justified

> > > > > because I feel they could not be wrong. It is only our understanding

> > > > > which is limited if we do not find what is happenning to be there

> > > also

> > > > > in the wordings of the shloka in reference.

> > > > >

> > > > > When a shloka mentions that " Sun in 5th will give so n so results

> > > > > ............ " one cannot just accept it as a scholboy memorising a

> > > poem,

> > > > > because when the writer has written the results he has not taken the

> > > > > other planets, their positions, their constellations, their

> > > > > avasthas,aspects, etc. in assessment. This he has left for us to do

> > > and

> > > > > amalgamate all results from various angles and then prepare the

> > > > > judgement. Ifyou read the results given by your own goodslef you

> > > > > willfind these words in the results like - if aspected by benefics,

> > > > > unaspected ,Exalted ,Lord is strong etc. " .

> > > > >

> > > > > Unless it is a quiz, it is assumed that the members who are putting

> > > up

> > > > > details of charts, in various threads, are doing so from Live cases

> > > in

> > > > > their circles.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore the Sages shlokas can never be wrong and neither a good

> > > > > astrologer who knows his job can be, in most of the cases, and it

> > > would

> > > > > not be right to compare the shlokas in general with a placement in

> > > > > general, without going deep in the meaning of the shloka or going

> > > deep

> > > > > in the placement of a planetary position if one wants to compare

> > > with

> > > > > what is mentioned in the shloka.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am happy that the shlokas are not entirely applicable ad verbatim,

> > > > > otherwise every Tom or Dick would have become a astrologer and

> > > taught

> > > > > Harry too how to predict.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> >

<%40>@yaho\

ogroups.com,

> > " Sreenadh "

> > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > > > Interesting! [:-?] But as usual, since I am more interesting in

> > > > > > verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the

> > > > > > classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -

> > > > > > 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

> > > > > > NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH

> > > > > > Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

> > > > > > Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

> > > > > > Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

> > > > > > (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

> > > > > > [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by

> > > extra

> > > > > > effort. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some

> > > point

> > > > > > of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in

> > > power

> > > > > > and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives)

> > > > > will

> > > > > > blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth

> > > > > would

> > > > > > come), generally unluckiness prevails]

> > > > > > 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

> > > > > > Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

> > > > > > Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute

> > > > > > Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

> > > > > > (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

> > > > > > [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th

> > > lord

> > > > > > is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a

> > > patient.

> > > > > > If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that

> > > Rahu in

> > > > > > 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and

> > > 8th

> > > > > > lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If

> > > Rahu

> > > > > is

> > > > > > in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as

> > > well),

> > > > > > 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60

> > > years

> > > > > of

> > > > > > age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

> > > > > > This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much

> > > > > > courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual

> > > > > > experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th

> > > house

> > > > > and

> > > > > > for whom Rahus dasa is over?

> > > > > > Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at

> > > all

> > > > > in

> > > > > > tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.

> > > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > > Sreenadh

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In

> >

<%40>@yaho\

ogroups.com,

> > " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > > > > > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal

> > > financial

> > > > > > > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to

> > > the

> > > > > > > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the

> > > > > variations

> > > > > > > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths

> > > > > associated

> > > > > > > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come

> > > through to

> > > > > > > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes

> > > > > > without

> > > > > > > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted.

> > > It

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives

> > > > > Life,

> > > > > > > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy

> > > received

> > > > > > after

> > > > > > > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after

> > > termination

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money

> > > received

> > > > > > after

> > > > > > > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry

> > > received.

> > > > > > (Dowry

> > > > > > > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These

> > > cases

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who

> > > amass

> > > > > > > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would

> > > earn

> > > > > > > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai

> > > > > > Ambani,

> > > > > > > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful

> > > > > means.

> > > > > > > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of

> > > > > > derogatorily

> > > > > > > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to

> > > the

> > > > > > > common man, He is still respected by people like myself.

> > > Dhirubhai

> > > > > > > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt

> > > lakhs

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the

> > > Index

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to

> > > > > > > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the

> > > planet

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him

> > > to

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get

> > > a

> > > > > > > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in

> > > > > losses.

> > > > > > > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example

> > > given,

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the

> > > native

> > > > > will

> > > > > > > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the

> > > > > > > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the

> > > > > > horoscope.

> > > > > > > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet ,

> > > and

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu

> > > does

> > > > > > give

> > > > > > > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have

> > > also

> > > > > > > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord

> > > is

> > > > > > > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time

> > > on

> > > > > > > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be

> > > > > > percieved

> > > > > > > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Namesta Ritu g,

 

It was very nice to hear tht u r studying ASTROLOGY from last 5 years,

well according to u tht sani gives bad results in 8th house as u should tht sani is karka for 8th house (longetivity) n sun gives good results according to u well sun in 8th house gives lot of health problems n stomach problems n acute acidity seeing 2th house or wit 2th lord, Thanks Mohit

--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Ritu Malhotra <ritukm.2005 wrote:

Ritu Malhotra <ritukm.2005Re: Re: Rahu in 8th House Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 9:14 AM

 

 

 

 

Dear friends,I have studied astrology for last 5 years. Topic : Rahu position in 8th houseThe position of rahu in 8th house is not supposed to be good. 8th house is a sick house. all malefic and beneficial planets gives bad results, when comes in this house.shani gives extremely bad results in 8th house. surya give good results in this house, protect from illness and other health related issues. but surya should not make any relationship with his enemies, ie shani, rahu, ketu and mangal also.if rahu is alone in this house, native will face health related issues in his life. if get effected with any malefice planet ie mangal, shani, mercury than give more issue, Exception : Exalted rahu in 8th house is good, protect from illness, bu native will face financial problem, he

can waste a lot of money in his life.Falls rahu in 8th house, person will face more helth probs. if dasa of rahu is going on than he will face more health and financial issue in his life.gocahr effect : if in natal chart, rahu is in 8th house, in gochar or current transit of rahu, comes in 8th house, that the duration of 1.5yrs of rahu will give bad results to native from natal or lagan chart. guru chandal yoga in 8th house : guru and rahu in 8th house give more bad reults. chadara rahu yoga in 8th house : fickle minded, emotional, brain unrest, mentally disturb, think un necessary always, allergy , acidity problems, dull brain. lazy, common cold cough

problem, poor decision making, always think what to do or not, so rahu give bad resuls in 8th houseRITU --- On Tue, 11/8/09, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote:

venkatachala pathi <pathiav >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th Houseancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, 11 August, 2009, 1:45 AM

 

 

 

Respected Astrologer Friends,

 

I have been with great interest studying many contributions from learned friends, and I thought to send in my views. I have many references to list in support of my observations which could lengthen this reply. I would like to be precise.

 

Generally, occupying 8th house from Lagna or Chandra position for Rahu, it is not a good position. Perhaps, in very few cases to quote, its association with a good planet in that house, in a favourable sign, will give good results in its sub-period in the major period of a favourable planet. I have also found such sub-period to uccur to a native after 42 years, make native financially comfortable, wealthy in his early standards, and also acquire properties or assets - many accredited and related to the favourable Planets influencing the Desa Natha.

Also, if the owner of 8th house occupies the eighth house with Rahu or aspect Rahu, the native falls sick --range and intensity of sickness directly related to those attributed to the aspecting planet and its occupation - during the major or sub periods or transit of Rahu in that house of occupation in 'Gochara' movement. Further, Rahu in 8th house, usually tends to make native face many difficulties from his children, financial crises in family and in native's own health when Rahu has any form of 'sambandha' with the performing Desa, during its influencing periods. Further, such occupation of 8th house Rahu, will induce the native to have high sex urge and may gratify it by having secret liaisons with women/man of ill repute, to have sexually transmitted disease and bring ill-repute for rest of his/her life with sufferings. A mis-placed Rahu, without any 'sambanda' of good relations with benefic

planets in the chart, placed in 8th house from lagna, the native will suffer trouble caused by his enemies, live in desperation, and - in given relations with Desa Natha - there is chance of his getting incarcerated. There could be an effect for this native to have a partner in life through marriage, who would talk ruthlessly all the time, inviting unpleasant married life.

 

Regards to all,

A.V.Pathi,

 

 

 

 

Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ >ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, August 11, 2009 8:27:24 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th House

Respected Sreenadh g, Well i did an example of my Dad who has Rahu in 8th house is live n kicking at the age of 62yrs Well his Birth Details r 19-08-1947 Time is 11.05.00 am Place is Dehradun, Thanks Mohit--- On Mon, 8/10/09, Sreenadh <sreesog > wrote:Sreenadh <sreesog >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th Houseancient_indian_ astrologyMonday, August 10, 2009, 6:35 PM Dear Bhaskar ji, Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say

about Rahu in 8th house -1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani - NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)[if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra effort.. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally unluckiness prevails]2) As per Brigu Sutra - Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute Swache shashti

varshani va jeevitam (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23) [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)] This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences

- can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over? Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Neelamji,> Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial> gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the> points presented by your goodself, let me also present the variations> taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths associated> with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to> pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes without> saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted. It may> come to

be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives Life,> but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received after> fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination or> retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received after> accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received. (Dowry> is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases are> not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass> wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would earn> wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai Ambani,> or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful means.> Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of derogatorily> in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the> common man, He is still

respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai> Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs and> married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index even> after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to> explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet in> his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to the> state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a> person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in losses.> Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example given, is> connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native will> not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the> conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the horoscope.> We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and

it> has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does give> good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also> broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is> always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on> these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be percieved> by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

 

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Respected Bhaskar g,

                                     Well i agree wit u tht no planets can be

termed to be good or bad 

 But no definite

rule can be termed for them as Good or Bad unless only one planet is

stationed in only one House without other planets in the sky-Horoscope.I agree

wit u completely, Thanks Mohit

--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

 

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

Re: Rahu in 8th House

 

Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:27 AM

 

Respected Aggarwal ji,

 

The astrologers here have initiated some discussions and broken the

myths that Rahu is just bad only. They have been able to prove that rahu

is good in the 8th and also the 8th Lord is good. So connclusion is that

no planet can be termed as good or bad completely and neither Lord of

evil house too. They can in some Horoscopes do very well for the native,

whereas in others can prove very much destructive too. But no definite

rule can be termed for them as Good or Bad unless only one planet is

stationed in only one House without other planets in the sky-Horoscope.

 

Regards to your chart, it is now for you to show us some light, since

your Rahu dasha is over as accepted by you. There is no need for anyone

of us to appear for any tests. We have nothing to prove to anybody. We

are not perfect. We need inputs from members like you to show us what

you have experienced and many others like you, to actually know the

effects of the planets, to make our knowledge near perfect.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, " mistry64in "

<mistry64in@ ...> wrote:

>

> Respected Scholars,

> I have eighth Rahu and Rahu Dasha is also over. Can you throw some

light

> My DOB 9-9-1964

> My TOB 11:50 Hrs

> My POB Ganganagar(Rajastha n)

> with warm regards

> P Aggarwal

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Sreenadhji,

> >

> > The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be perfect

to

> > understand when and where the writings of the sages could be

applicable.

> > A sweetmeat is sweet and meant to be consumed, but not by a

diabetic.

> > Snake Poison may become a medicine for a terminally ill person in

pain

> > but for others it will remain a poison. The shlokas are couplets

which

> > carried discussions before they were memorised between the Sage and

his

> > disciples, and the small shloka cannot contain the entirety of the

> > discussions which could have happened between the Master and the

> > students. This was given at the end of the day to make a nutshell

note

> > and remember what has been talked about. The shlokas cannot be fully

> > comprehended by us unless we get the power of intutions supplied to

us

> > from within. I never reject the shlokas what they say, but do not

cling

> > to these in rigidity. For me personally verifications are not

justified

> > because I feel they could not be wrong. It is only our understanding

> > which is limited if we do not find what is happenning to be there

also

> > in the wordings of the shloka in reference.

> >

> > When a shloka mentions that " Sun in 5th will give so n so results

> > ............ " one cannot just accept it as a scholboy memorising a

poem,

> > because when the writer has written the results he has not taken the

> > other planets, their positions, their constellations, their

> > avasthas,aspects, etc. in assessment. This he has left for us to do

and

> > amalgamate all results from various angles and then prepare the

> > judgement. Ifyou read the results given by your own goodslef you

> > willfind these words in the results like - if aspected by benefics,

> > unaspected ,Exalted ,Lord is strong etc. " .

> >

> > Unless it is a quiz, it is assumed that the members who are putting

up

> > details of charts, in various threads, are doing so from Live cases

in

> > their circles.

> >

> > Therefore the Sages shlokas can never be wrong and neither a good

> > astrologer who knows his job can be, in most of the cases, and it

would

> > not be right to compare the shlokas in general with a placement in

> > general, without going deep in the meaning of the shloka or going

deep

> > in the placement of a planetary position if one wants to compare

with

> > what is mentioned in the shloka.

> >

> > I am happy that the shlokas are not entirely applicable ad verbatim,

> > otherwise every Tom or Dick would have become a astrologer and

taught

> > Harry too how to predict.

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > Love and regards,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh "

> > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > Interesting! [:-?] But as usual, since I am more interesting in

> > > verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the

> > > classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -

> > > 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

> > > NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH

> > > Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

> > > Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

> > > Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

> > > (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

> > > [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by

extra

> > > effort. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some

point

> > > of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in

power

> > > and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives)

> > will

> > > blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth

> > would

> > > come), generally unluckiness prevails]

> > > 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

> > > Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

> > > Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute

> > > Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

> > > (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

> > > [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th

lord

> > > is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a

patient.

> > > If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that

Rahu in

> > > 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and

8th

> > > lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If

Rahu

> > is

> > > in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as

well),

> > > 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60

years

> > of

> > > age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

> > > This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much

> > > courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual

> > > experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th

house

> > and

> > > for whom Rahus dasa is over?

> > > Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at

all

> > in

> > > tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal

financial

> > > > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to

the

> > > > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the

> > variations

> > > > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths

> > associated

> > > > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come

through to

> > > > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes

> > > without

> > > > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted.

It

> > > may

> > > > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives

> > Life,

> > > > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy

received

> > > after

> > > > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after

termination

> > or

> > > > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money

received

> > > after

> > > > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry

received.

> > > (Dowry

> > > > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These

cases

> > > are

> > > > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who

amass

> > > > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would

earn

> > > > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai

> > > Ambani,

> > > > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful

> > means.

> > > > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of

> > > derogatorily

> > > > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to

the

> > > > common man, He is still respected by people like myself.

Dhirubhai

> > > > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt

lakhs

> > and

> > > > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the

Index

> > > even

> > > > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to

> > > > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the

planet

> > in

> > > > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him

to

> > the

> > > > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get

a

> > > > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in

> > losses.

> > > > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example

given,

> > is

> > > > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the

native

> > will

> > > > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the

> > > > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the

> > > horoscope.

> > > > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet ,

and

> > > it

> > > > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu

does

> > > give

> > > > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have

also

> > > > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord

is

> > > > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time

on

> > > > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be

> > > percieved

> > > > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

>

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Respected Sunil g,

 

Well Sir i m sorry if i have put luggage in Gurujans, Well Sunil g the question was Rahu & Ketu in 8th house how does he signify good result of two charts put up by me ,Well Sunil g i couldnt able to jutifies it ,but looking further in Varga charts (Specially D-10 charts) signifies both charts good results(specially chart of Ketu dasha gave him fantatics results) So i though rather confusing the talks n getting on to the other sides of talks so i though of keeping quiet Sir... Hope it u understood it (Well no one till now talked of varga chart on the topic of Rahu in 8th House) , Sorry n Thanks Mohit--- On Tue, 8/11/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Rahu in 8th House Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 8:09 AM

Dear Mohit JI Can u giv some astrological reasons also along with ur mails other than putting that luggage of explaing it over and over again ( as many times it will drag discussions to diffrnt aspects which is already discussed in grp ,sure sreenadh ji was quoting rishi Hora s and not predicting any spl charts -so u r mail comes under longitivity part tho sreenadh ji mail it is mentioned that rahu in 8th house can giv bad effects to even longitivity ) on other ppl s shoulder and then this discussion will b more lively and colorful than dry where many many prediction seekers r ready to pounce frm every nook and corner of grp the momnt they find some discussions related to their chart is there .Even many dont care where rahu sits in chart even .The momnt they see the rahu discussions posts the charts without even

respecting the other persons time he spent on such discussions and taunting them in the name of discussion So i request u to add u r share also in discussion ,sure u may say u r novice in astrology or old student ,let it b ,but pls contribute more frm ur side too .Hope u understand my points and u will contribute more and add more power to discussions as we all r jointly investigating and not simply declaring results on every astro dictums .Thanks for posting data s and keep it up rgrds sunil nair ancient_indian_ astrology, Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Sreenadh g,> > Well i did an example of

my Dad who has Rahu in 8th house is live n kicking at the age of 62yrs Well his Birth Details r 19-08-1947 Time is 11.05.00 am Place is Dehradun, Thanks Mohit> > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Sreenadh sreesog [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th House> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, August 10, 2009, 6:35 PM> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -> 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -> NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH> Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH> Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti> Sramagranthikrid

randhrago bradhnasatruH> (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)> [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra effort.. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally unluckiness prevails]> 2) As per Brigu Sutra -> Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman> Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute> Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam>

(Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)> [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]> This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences - can anyone

provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over?> Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Neelamji,> > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial> > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the> > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the variations> > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths associated> > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to> > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes without> > saying. The wealth

received from the 8th is not always tainted. It may> > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives Life,> > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received after> > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination or> > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received after> > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received. (Dowry> > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases are> > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass> > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would earn> > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai Ambani,> > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful means.> > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of

derogatorily> > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the> > common man, He is still respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai> > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs and> > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index even> > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to> > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet in> > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to the> > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a> > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in losses.> > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example given, is> > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native will> > not get wealth from the Stock markets.

Again bringing us to the> > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the horoscope.> > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and it> > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does give> > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also> > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is> > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on> > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be percieved> > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.>

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Dear Mohit ji One of the late lessons in my life was astrology cannot b taught tru net fora s and chat s as u are seeing a purticular charts only and and still not ready to explore the Goldmine already waiting to b explored and u want me or others to decode every charts for u sure the discussion abt Nodes or planets in 8th House but u hav to use previous discussions happened in grp ,some discussions may b very older ,every time i or no one in world has time nor resources to work for 24 hrs in retyping all that ,or even search or reproduce it for u and any one ,even under this tread i discussed many times -how nodes r giving results many time s can u tell me how rahu and ketu givs results ??according to some grp of astrologers ketu in mithuna is debilated and why it shud giv good results ?? and when rahu even if it is in exlatation house and good House why it is not giving good results ??pls think and digest all discussion s happened in this grp since day one of its incorporation and come with ur answers rgrds sunil nair , Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33 wrote:>> Respected Sunil g,> > Well Sir i m sorry if i have put luggage in Gurujans, Well Sunil g the question was Rahu & Ketu in 8th house how does he signify good result of two charts put up by me ,Well Sunil g i couldnt able to jutifies it ,but looking further in Varga charts (Specially D-10 charts) signifies both charts good results(specially chart of Ketu dasha gave him fantatics results) So i though rather confusing the talks n getting on to the other sides of talks so i though of keeping quiet Sir... Hope it u understood it (Well no one till now talked of varga chart on the topic of Rahu in 8th House) , Sorry n Thanks Mohit> --- On Tue, 8/11/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: Rahu in 8th House> > Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 8:09 AM> > > > > > > > Dear Mohit JI > > Can u giv some astrological reasons also along with ur mails other than putting that luggage of explaing it over and over again ( as many times it will drag discussions to diffrnt aspects which is already discussed in grp ,sure sreenadh ji was quoting rishi Hora s and not predicting any spl charts -so u r mail comes under longitivity part tho sreenadh ji mail it is mentioned that rahu in 8th house can giv bad effects to even longitivity ) on other ppl s shoulder and then this discussion will b more lively and colorful than dry where many many prediction seekers r ready to pounce frm every nook and corner of grp the momnt they find some discussions related to their chart is there .Even many dont care where rahu sits in chart even .The momnt they see the rahu discussions posts the charts without even respecting the other persons time he spent on such discussions and taunting them in the name of discussion > > So i request u to add u r share also in discussion ,sure u may say u r novice in astrology or old student ,let it b ,but pls contribute more frm ur side too .> > Hope u understand my points and u will contribute more and add more power to discussions as we all r jointly investigating and not simply declaring results on every astro dictums .> > Thanks for posting data s and keep it up > > rgrds sunil nair > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33@ ...> wrote:> >> > Respected Sreenadh g,> > > > Well i did an example of my Dad who has Rahu in 8th house is live n kicking at the age of 62yrs Well his Birth Details r 19-08-1947 Time is 11.05.00 am Place is Dehradun, Thanks Mohit> > > > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th House> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, August 10, 2009, 6:35 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -> > 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -> > NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH> > Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH> > Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti> > Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH> > (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)> > [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra effort.. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally unluckiness prevails]> > 2) As per Brigu Sutra -> > Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman> > Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute> > Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam> > (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)> > [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]> > This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over?> > Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Neelamji,> > > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial> > > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the> > > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the variations> > > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths associated> > > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to> > > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes without> > > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted. It may> > > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives Life,> > > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received after> > > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination or> > > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received after> > > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received. (Dowry> > > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases are> > > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass> > > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would earn> > > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai Ambani,> > > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful means.> > > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of derogatorily> > > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the> > > common man, He is still respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai> > > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs and> > > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index even> > > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to> > > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet in> > > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to the> > > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a> > > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in losses.> > > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example given, is> > > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native will> > > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the> > > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the horoscope.> > > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and it> > > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does give> > > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also> > > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is> > > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on> > > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be percieved> > > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.> >>

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Dear Dushyant Trivedi ji, The chart you give DOES NOT qualify for the bad result the sage quotes. Why? I will explain - read the blow notes carefully -===The result attributed to Rahu in 8th can be said for any malefic

planet. The sages spell out such strong results to confirm our belief

in astrology, otherwise they could have mentioned several minor good

results such combinations can provide - but that was not the intention.

I will clarify. Please look at it this way. * For Rahu in 8th to give short life -

1) Rahu should be placed along with one or more malefics in 8th

house (because Rahus gives the results of malefics it is placed along

with as per laghu parasari) & 2) The 8th lord should be weak (i.e. 8th lord should be either combust or debilitated)

3) No benefic should conjuct with or aspect Rahu (since as per

Brihat jataka "Yapya bhavanti subhekshita" - i.e. if aspected by

benefics the bad results become hidden and will not materialize)

4) The Rahu dasa should happen during the corresponding period

(because the planets can give their results only during their dasa or

antara) When the above four conditions gets satisfied, Rahu will

DEFINITELY kill the native for sure - that too at around the age of 32

years for sure. This is certain and without doubt - a fact - if you

believe in the sages. * Now comes the question, what if some of

these conditions are not present? What if Rahu is placed in 8th, when

the 8th lord is strong, Rahu is conjunct with some benefics? The

answer is pretty pretty clear! Sanivat Rahu (Rahu is like Saturn) - the

significator of longivity! Rahu in 8th INCREASES longevity! When

conjunct with some benefic Rahus is supposed to give the results of

that benefic making things all the more positive - for e.g. increasing

longevity. 8th lord is strong again means that Rahu is supposed to

convey that result - i.e. increase longevity! To add to it if Rahu dasa

is not happening also then what to predict - alas what bad results such

a Rahu can give, except good! Hope you see the point! Now

analyze the Rahu in 8th in horoscope based on the above pointer and

tell me - DID THE SAGES GOT IT WRONG? I think NO - the problem is with

our understanding.=== Now what about the chart you have provided? At first glance it seems that the chart given by you satisfies the conditions with - * Rahu in 8th ( one condition satisfied) * But there is no malefic along with Rahu in 8th (one condition not satisfied) * 8th lord Sun in debilitation (one more condition satisfied?) * No benefic placed along with Rahu (one more condition satisfied) * Rahu dasa was running from 1934 to 1952 (one more condition satisfied) But all our mis-understanding becomes corrected when we look at the chart closely! * Rahu in 8th (since Sanivat Rahu) increases longevity since Rahu is the significator of longevity. * The depositor of Rahu (8th lord) Sun is in debilitation BUT (it is a big but!) in Dwadasa varga Sun has NINE out of 12 vargas! Sun the 8th lord is EXTREMELY POWERFUL in this chart and not at all weak! (I am using Chandrahari Ayanamsa) Rahu is supposed to give the results of the house in which it is placed, and thus INCREASE LONGEVITY for this chart. Who will predict longevity problem and short life for such a chart except longevity?!! Rahu being the significator of longevity is the life giver and not the life taker for this chart! Hope you see the point. Love and regards,Sreenadh , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:>> Dear Mr. Sreenadh,> > The example given by me amply proves what Bhaskarji says. The native is in his 86th year and got riches in his Rahu Mahadasha.> > He has always faced stomach problems now and then. The moment he feels his stomach is upset he reduces his food intake and within couple of days he is alright.> > For ready reference the details are as under> > DOB 16th Oct 1923> TOB 14.20 IST> POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat> > D. D. TRIVEDI

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Dear Bhaskar ji, //The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be perfect to

understand when and where the writings of the sages could be applicable.// You are right. I have given some elaboration of both the bad and good result I am pointing to in the post: /message/23570Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > Dear Sreenadhji,> > The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be perfect to> understand when and where the writings of the sages could be applicable.> A sweetmeat is sweet and meant to be consumed, but not by a diabetic.> Snake Poison may become a medicine for a terminally ill person in pain> but for others it will remain a poison. The shlokas are couplets which> carried discussions before they were memorised between the Sage and his> disciples, and the small shloka cannot contain the entirety of the> discussions which could have happened between the Master and the> students. This was given at the end of the day to make a nutshell note> and remember what has been talked about. The shlokas cannot be fully> comprehended by us unless we get the power of intutions supplied to us> from within. I never reject the shlokas what they say, but do not cling> to these in rigidity. For me personally verifications are not justified> because I feel they could not be wrong. It is only our understanding> which is limited if we do not find what is happenning to be there also> in the wordings of the shloka in reference.> > When a shloka mentions that "Sun in 5th will give so n so results> ............" one cannot just accept it as a scholboy memorising a poem,> because when the writer has written the results he has not taken the> other planets, their positions, their constellations, their> avasthas,aspects, etc. in assessment. This he has left for us to do and> amalgamate all results from various angles and then prepare the> judgement. Ifyou read the results given by your own goodslef you> willfind these words in the results like - if aspected by benefics,> unaspected ,Exalted ,Lord is strong etc.".> > Unless it is a quiz, it is assumed that the members who are putting up> details of charts, in various threads, are doing so from Live cases in> their circles.> > Therefore the Sages shlokas can never be wrong and neither a good> astrologer who knows his job can be, in most of the cases, and it would> not be right to compare the shlokas in general with a placement in> general, without going deep in the meaning of the shloka or going deep> in the placement of a planetary position if one wants to compare with> what is mentioned in the shloka.> > I am happy that the shlokas are not entirely applicable ad verbatim,> otherwise every Tom or Dick would have become a astrologer and taught> Harry too how to predict.> > best wishes,> > Love and regards,> > Bhaskar.

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Dear Mr. Sreenadh,

 

If you go through my mail once again I hgave stated why Rahu has given good results. Hope my understanding is right.

 

The reasons are Rahu acted like Shani which is lagnesh and hence good.

Rahu is in the nakshatra of Venus which is swagrahi in the 10th house ans Venus being yoga karaka planet for Capricorn lagna.

 

However it has given Stomach poblem.

 

D. D. Trivedi--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Rahu in 8th House Date: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 9:40 PM

Dear Dushyant Trivedi ji, The chart you give DOES NOT qualify for the bad result the sage quotes. Why? I will explain - read the blow notes carefully -===The result attributed to Rahu in 8th can be said for any malefic planet. The sages spell out such strong results to confirm our belief in astrology, otherwise they could have mentioned several minor good results such combinations can provide - but that was not the intention. I will clarify. Please look at it this way. * For Rahu in 8th to give short life - 1) Rahu should be placed along with one or more malefics in 8th house (because Rahus gives the results of malefics it is placed along with as per laghu parasari) & 2) The 8th lord should be weak (i.e. 8th lord should be either combust or debilitated) 3) No benefic should conjuct with or

aspect Rahu (since as per Brihat jataka "Yapya bhavanti subhekshita" - i.e. if aspected by benefics the bad results become hidden and will not materialize) 4) The Rahu dasa should happen during the corresponding period (because the planets can give their results only during their dasa or antara) When the above four conditions gets satisfied, Rahu will DEFINITELY kill the native for sure - that too at around the age of 32 years for sure. This is certain and without doubt - a fact - if you believe in the sages. * Now comes the question, what if some of these conditions are not present? What if Rahu is placed in 8th, when the 8th lord is strong, Rahu is conjunct with some benefics? The answer is pretty pretty clear! Sanivat Rahu (Rahu is like Saturn) - the significator of longivity! Rahu in 8th INCREASES longevity! When conjunct with some benefic Rahus is supposed to give the results of that benefic

making things all the more positive - for e.g. increasing longevity. 8th lord is strong again means that Rahu is supposed to convey that result - i.e. increase longevity! To add to it if Rahu dasa is not happening also then what to predict - alas what bad results such a Rahu can give, except good! Hope you see the point! Now analyze the Rahu in 8th in horoscope based on the above pointer and tell me - DID THE SAGES GOT IT WRONG? I think NO - the problem is with our understanding.=== Now what about the chart you have provided? At first glance it seems that the chart given by you satisfies the conditions with - * Rahu in 8th ( one condition satisfied) * But there is no malefic along with Rahu in 8th (one condition not satisfied) * 8th lord Sun in debilitation (one more condition satisfied?) * No benefic placed along with Rahu (one more condition satisfied) * Rahu

dasa was running from 1934 to 1952 (one more condition satisfied) But all our mis-understanding becomes corrected when we look at the chart closely! * Rahu in 8th (since Sanivat Rahu) increases longevity since Rahu is the significator of longevity. * The depositor of Rahu (8th lord) Sun is in debilitation BUT (it is a big but!) in Dwadasa varga Sun has NINE out of 12 vargas! Sun the 8th lord is EXTREMELY POWERFUL in this chart and not at all weak! (I am using Chandrahari Ayanamsa) Rahu is supposed to give the results of the house in which it is placed, and thus INCREASE LONGEVITY for this chart. Who will predict longevity problem and short life for such a chart except longevity?!! Rahu being the significator of longevity is the life giver and not the life taker for this chart! Hope you see the point. Love

and regards,Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, dushyant trivedi <trivedi20@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Mr. Sreenadh,> > The example given by me amply proves what Bhaskarji says. The native is in his 86th year and got riches in his Rahu Mahadasha.> > He has always faced stomach problems now and then. The moment he feels his stomach is upset he reduces his food intake and within couple of days he is alright.> > For ready reference the details are as under> > DOB 16th Oct 1923> TOB 14.20 IST> POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat> > D. D. TRIVEDI

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Dear Mohit ji, Interesting. Your dad is 62 years of age as of now and let us see which of the combination spelled-out by sage Bhrigu applies to your dad's chart. 1) If Rahu is in 8th house (and is non-conjunct and unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak and there if Rahu is conjunct with a malefic and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might

live upto less than 32 years only. This combination does not apply to your dad's chart since the 8th lord is strong since it is EXALTED IN NAVAMSA. Further no other malefic conjunct with Rahu in 8th; this too points to the fact that the above combination do not apply to your dad's chart.2) But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. Again since the 8th lord is strong due to EXALTED IN NAVAMSA the above combination do not apply to your dad's chart.3) If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes). Certainly this combination applies to your dad's chart. What does the sage say? "Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam" may be I should transilate it as - "If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age OR MORE (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)" Now the question is - when will the death come and will Rahu will have any connection to it? The answer would be that Yes, Rahu do have a connection to death for this horoscope and death may happen during Rahu antara during Saturn's dasa - i.e between 2012 -2015 at between 65 to 68 years of age. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Mohit Virmani <mohitvirmani33 wrote:>> Respected Sreenadh g,> > Well i did an example of my Dad who has Rahu in 8th house is live n kicking at the age of 62yrs Well his Birth Details r 19-08-1947 Time is 11.05.00 am Place is Dehradun, Thanks Mohit> > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Sreenadh sreesog Re: Rahu in 8th House> > Monday, August 10, 2009, 6:35 PM> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -> 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -> NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH> Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH> Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti> Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH> (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)> [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra effort.. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power and scholars will respect him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally unluckiness prevails]> 2) As per Brigu Sutra -> Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman> Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute> Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam> (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)> [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]> This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over?> Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh

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Dear Venkatachala Pathi ji, Thanks for the informative mail. Love and regards,Sreenadh , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Respected Astrologer Friends,> > I have been with great interest studying many contributions from learned friends, and I thought to send in my views. I have many references to list in support of my observations which could lengthen this reply. I would like to be precise.> > Generally, occupying 8th house from Lagna or Chandra position for Rahu, it is not a good position. Perhaps, in very few cases to quote, its association with a good planet in that house, in a favourable sign, will give good results in its sub-period in the major period of a favourable planet. I have also found such sub-period to uccur to a native after 42 years, make native financially comfortable, wealthy in his early standards, and also acquire properties or assets - many accredited and related to the favourable Planets influencing the Desa Natha. > Also, if the owner of 8th house occupies the eighth house with Rahu or aspect Rahu, the native falls sick --range and intensity of sickness directly related to those attributed to the aspecting planet and its occupation - during the major or sub periods or transit of Rahu in that house of occupation in 'Gochara' movement. Further, Rahu in 8th house, usually tends to make native face many difficulties from his children, financial crises in family and in native's own health when Rahu has any form of 'sambandha' with the performing Desa, during its influencing periods. Further, such occupation of 8th house Rahu, will induce the native to have high sex urge and may gratify it by having secret liaisons with women/man of ill repute, to have sexually transmitted disease and bring ill-repute for rest of his/her life with sufferings. A mis-placed Rahu, without any 'sambanda' of good relations with benefic planets in the chart, placed in 8th house from> lagna, the native will suffer trouble caused by his enemies, live in desperation, and - in given relations with Desa Natha - there is chance of his getting incarcerated. There could be an effect for this native to have a partner in life through marriage, who would talk ruthlessly all the time, inviting unpleasant married life.> > Regards to all,> A.V.Pathi,

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Dear Ritu ji, Thanks for the informative mail. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Ritu Malhotra <ritukm.2005 wrote:>> Dear friends,> > I have studied astrology for last 5 years. > > > Topic : Rahu position in 8th house> > The position of rahu in 8th house is not supposed to be good. 8th house is a sick house. all malefic and beneficial planets gives bad results, when comes in this house.> > shani gives extremely bad results in 8th house. surya give good results in this house, protect from illness and other health related issues. but surya should not make any relationship with his enemies, ie shani, rahu, ketu and mangal also.> > if rahu is alone in this house, native will face health related issues in his life. if get effected with any malefice planet ie mangal, shani, mercury than give more issue, > > Exception : Exalted rahu in 8th house is good, protect from illness, bu native will face financial problem, he can waste a lot of money in his life.> > > Falls rahu in 8th house, person will face more helth probs. if dasa of rahu is going on than he will face more health and financial issue in his life.> > > gocahr effect : if in natal chart, rahu is in 8th house, in gochar or current transit of rahu, comes in 8th house, that the duration of 1.5yrs of rahu will give bad results to native from natal or lagan chart. > > > guru chandal yoga in 8th house : guru and rahu in 8th house give more bad reults. > > chadara rahu yoga in 8th house : fickle minded, emotional, brain unrest, mentally disturb, think un necessary always, allergy , acidity problems, dull brain. lazy, common cold cough problem, poor decision making, always think what to do or not, > > > so rahu give bad resuls in 8th house> > > > > > > > > RITU

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Dear Dushyant ji and Mohit ji,

 

Thank you for the inputs given to us on this thread .

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, Mohit Virmani

<mohitvirmani33 wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskar g,

> Well i agree wit u tht no planets

can be termed to be good or bad

> But no definite

> rule can be termed for them as Good or Bad unless only one planet is

> stationed in only one House without other planets in the

sky-Horoscope.I agree wit u completely, Thanks Mohit

> --- On Tue, 8/11/09, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Rahu in 8th House

>

> Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:27 AM

>

> Respected Aggarwal ji,

>

> The astrologers here have initiated some discussions and broken the

> myths that Rahu is just bad only. They have been able to prove that

rahu

> is good in the 8th and also the 8th Lord is good. So connclusion is

that

> no planet can be termed as good or bad completely and neither Lord of

> evil house too. They can in some Horoscopes do very well for the

native,

> whereas in others can prove very much destructive too. But no definite

> rule can be termed for them as Good or Bad unless only one planet is

> stationed in only one House without other planets in the

sky-Horoscope.

>

> Regards to your chart, it is now for you to show us some light, since

> your Rahu dasha is over as accepted by you. There is no need for

anyone

> of us to appear for any tests. We have nothing to prove to anybody. We

> are not perfect. We need inputs from members like you to show us what

> you have experienced and many others like you, to actually know the

> effects of the planets, to make our knowledge near perfect.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " mistry64in "

> <mistry64in@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Scholars,

> > I have eighth Rahu and Rahu Dasha is also over. Can you throw some

> light

> > My DOB 9-9-1964

> > My TOB 11:50 Hrs

> > My POB Ganganagar(Rajastha n)

> > with warm regards

> > P Aggarwal

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Sreenadhji,

> > >

> > > The Sages can never be wrong. It is only us who may not be perfect

> to

> > > understand when and where the writings of the sages could be

> applicable.

> > > A sweetmeat is sweet and meant to be consumed, but not by a

> diabetic.

> > > Snake Poison may become a medicine for a terminally ill person in

> pain

> > > but for others it will remain a poison. The shlokas are couplets

> which

> > > carried discussions before they were memorised between the Sage

and

> his

> > > disciples, and the small shloka cannot contain the entirety of the

> > > discussions which could have happened between the Master and the

> > > students. This was given at the end of the day to make a nutshell

> note

> > > and remember what has been talked about. The shlokas cannot be

fully

> > > comprehended by us unless we get the power of intutions supplied

to

> us

> > > from within. I never reject the shlokas what they say, but do not

> cling

> > > to these in rigidity. For me personally verifications are not

> justified

> > > because I feel they could not be wrong. It is only our

understanding

> > > which is limited if we do not find what is happenning to be there

> also

> > > in the wordings of the shloka in reference.

> > >

> > > When a shloka mentions that " Sun in 5th will give so n so results

> > > ............ " one cannot just accept it as a scholboy memorising

a

> poem,

> > > because when the writer has written the results he has not taken

the

> > > other planets, their positions, their constellations, their

> > > avasthas,aspects, etc. in assessment. This he has left for us to

do

> and

> > > amalgamate all results from various angles and then prepare the

> > > judgement. Ifyou read the results given by your own goodslef you

> > > willfind these words in the results like - if aspected by

benefics,

> > > unaspected ,Exalted ,Lord is strong etc. " .

> > >

> > > Unless it is a quiz, it is assumed that the members who are

putting

> up

> > > details of charts, in various threads, are doing so from Live

cases

> in

> > > their circles.

> > >

> > > Therefore the Sages shlokas can never be wrong and neither a good

> > > astrologer who knows his job can be, in most of the cases, and it

> would

> > > not be right to compare the shlokas in general with a placement in

> > > general, without going deep in the meaning of the shloka or going

> deep

> > > in the placement of a planetary position if one wants to compare

> with

> > > what is mentioned in the shloka.

> > >

> > > I am happy that the shlokas are not entirely applicable ad

verbatim,

> > > otherwise every Tom or Dick would have become a astrologer and

> taught

> > > Harry too how to predict.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Love and regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh "

> > > <sreesog@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > > > Interesting! [:-?] But as usual, since I am more interesting in

> > > > verifying the results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the

> > > > classics has to say about Rahu in 8th house -

> > > > 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

> > > > NripaiH panditair vandito ninditaH swaiH

> > > > Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

> > > > Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

> > > > Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

> > > > (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

> > > > [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by

> extra

> > > > effort. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some

> point

> > > > of his life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in

> power

> > > > and scholars will respect him, the people close to him

(relatives)

> > > will

> > > > blame him. Even though occasionally luck would follow (and

wealth

> > > would

> > > > come), generally unluckiness prevails]

> > > > 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

> > > > Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

> > > > Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute

> > > > Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

> > > > (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

> > > > [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th

> lord

> > > > is weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a

> patient.

> > > > If so, he might live upto less than 32 years only. But if that

> Rahu in

> > > > 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics

and

> 8th

> > > > lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age. If

> Rahu

> > > is

> > > > in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as

> well),

> > > > 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60

> years

> > > of

> > > > age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

> > > > This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much

> > > > courage to speakout such strong results! What are your actual

> > > > experiences - can anyone provide real charts with Rahu in 8th

> house

> > > and

> > > > for whom Rahus dasa is over?

> > > > Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not

at

> all

> > > in

> > > > tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.

> > > > Love and regards,

> > > > Sreenadh

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > > > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal

> financial

> > > > > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to

> the

> > > > > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the

> > > variations

> > > > > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths

> > > associated

> > > > > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come

> through to

> > > > > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which

goes

> > > > without

> > > > > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always

tainted.

> It

> > > > may

> > > > > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a

natives

> > > Life,

> > > > > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy

> received

> > > > after

> > > > > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after

> termination

> > > or

> > > > > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money

> received

> > > > after

> > > > > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry

> received.

> > > > (Dowry

> > > > > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These

> cases

> > > > are

> > > > > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who

> amass

> > > > > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician

would

> earn

> > > > > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai

> > > > Ambani,

> > > > > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful

> > > means.

> > > > > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of

> > > > derogatorily

> > > > > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference

to

> the

> > > > > common man, He is still respected by people like myself.

> Dhirubhai

> > > > > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt

> lakhs

> > > and

> > > > > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the

> Index

> > > > even

> > > > > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need

to

> > > > > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the

> planet

> > > in

> > > > > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him

> to

> > > the

> > > > > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never

get

> a

> > > > > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in

> > > losses.

> > > > > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example

> given,

> > > is

> > > > > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the

> native

> > > will

> > > > > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to

the

> > > > > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the

> > > > horoscope.

> > > > > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet

,

> and

> > > > it

> > > > > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu

> does

> > > > give

> > > > > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have

> also

> > > > > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th

Lord

> is

> > > > > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending

time

> on

> > > > > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be

> > > > percieved

> > > > > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Respected Sir,

 

you have rightly said that astrology can not be taught through forums and

internet chats. an accurate reply.  now a days a lot of people want to learnt it

in an easy way through books and forums without practical knowledge.  Practical

knowledge is a must. only theory will lead to wrong analysis.

 

with regards,

T.R.RAO,

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 11/8/09, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala

Re: Rahu in 8th House

 

Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 9:00 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Mohit ji

 

One of the late lessons in my life was astrology cannot b taught tru net fora s

and chat s

 

as u are seeing a purticular charts only and and still not ready to explore the

Goldmine already waiting to b explored and u want me or others  to decode every

charts for u

 

sure the discussion abt Nodes or planets in 8th House  but u hav to use previous

discussions happened in grp ,some discussions may b very older ,every time i or

no one in world has time nor resources to work for 24 hrs in retyping all that

,or even search or reproduce it for u and any one ,even under this tread i

discussed many times -how nodes r giving results many time s 

 

can u tell me how rahu and ketu givs results ??

 

according to some grp of astrologers ketu in mithuna is debilated and why it

shud giv good results ??  and when rahu even if it is in exlatation house  and

good House why it is not giving good results ??

 

pls think and digest all discussion s happened in this grp since day one of its

incorporation and come with ur answers

 

rgrds sunil nair

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Mohit Virmani

<mohitvirmani33@ ...> wrote:

>

> Respected Sunil g,

>  

>                          Well Sir i m sorry if i have put luggage in Gurujans,

Well Sunil g the question was Rahu & Ketu in 8th house how does he signify good

result of  two charts put up by me ,Well Sunil g i couldnt able to jutifies it

,but looking further in Varga charts (Specially D-10 charts) signifies both

charts good results(specially chart of Ketu dasha gave him fantatics results) So

i though rather confusing the talks n getting on to the other sides of talks so

i though of keeping quiet Sir... Hope it u understood it (Well no one till now

talked of varga chart on the topic of Rahu in 8th House) , Sorry n Thanks Mohit

> --- On Tue, 8/11/09, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:

>

>

> sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th House

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 8:09 AM

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> Dear Mohit JI

>

>   Can u giv some astrological reasons also along with ur mails other than

putting that luggage of explaing it over and over again ( as many times it will

drag discussions to diffrnt aspects which is already discussed in grp ,sure

sreenadh ji was quoting rishi Hora s and not predicting any spl charts -so u r

mail comes under longitivity part tho sreenadh ji mail it is mentioned that rahu

in 8th house can giv bad effects to even longitivity )   on other ppl s

shoulder  and then this discussion will b more lively  and colorful than dry

where  many many prediction seekers  r ready to pounce frm every nook and corner

of grp the momnt they find some discussions related to their chart is there 

..Even many dont care where rahu sits in chart  even .The momnt they see the 

rahu discussions  posts the charts without even respecting the other persons

time he spent on such discussions and taunting them in the name of discussion

>

> So i request u to add u r share also in discussion ,sure u may say u r novice

in astrology or old student ,let it b ,but pls contribute more frm ur side too 

..

>

> Hope u understand my points and u will contribute more and add more power to

discussions as we all r jointly investigating and not simply declaring results

on every astro dictums .

>

> Thanks for posting data s and keep it up

>

> rgrds sunil nair

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Mohit Virmani

<mohitvirmani33@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Sreenadh g,

> >  

> >                                    Well i did an example of my Dad who has

Rahu in 8th house is live n kicking at the age of 62yrs Well his Birth Details r

19-08-1947 Time is 11.05.00 am Place is Dehradun, Thanks Mohit

> >

> > --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Sreenadh sreesog@

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th House

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Monday, August 10, 2009, 6:35 PM

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >    Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the

results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say about

Rahu in 8th house -

> > 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

> >   NripaiH panditair vandito  ninditaH swaiH

> >   Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

> >  Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

> >  Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

> >                    (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

> > [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra

effort.. He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his

life, especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power and scholars

will respect him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even

though occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally

unluckiness prevails]

> > 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

> >   Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

> >   Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute

> >   Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

> >                                      (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

> >  [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is

weak and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he

might live upto less than 32 years only.  But if that Rahu in 8th is placed

along with benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the

native may live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along

with or aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well,

then he may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

> >   This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage

to speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences - can anyone

provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over?

> > Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in

tune with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.

> > Love and regards,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Neelamji,

> > > Yes you are right. Riches would mean more than the normal financial

> > > gains of wealth or a meagre monthly salary. While agreeing to the

> > > points presented by your goodself, let me also present the variations

> > > taking the subjects named by you, so as to break the myths associated

> > > with the 8th House. Income from 8th house would only come through to

> > > pass, if the native has Dhan Yogas, is a pre-requsite which goes without

> > > saying. The wealth received from the 8th is not always tainted. It may

> > > come to be received after some sorrowful hapenning in a natives Life,

> > > but not necessarily coming from taint. For example legacy received after

> > > fathers death. For example Gratuity fubd received after termination or

> > > retirement from job/service. For example Insurance money received after

> > > accident or someones death in family. For example Dowry received. (Dowry

> > > is also a unhappy receipt and not to feel happy about). These cases are

> > > not cases of any tainted wealth received. The Bogus Gurus who amass

> > > wealth, is a case of tainted wealth. The dirty Politician would earn

> > > wealth through underhand dealings. Amitabh Bacchan, Dhirubhai Ambani,

> > > or Dhirendra Bhramachari have all earnt money through rightful means.

> > > Though Shri Dhirendra Bhramachari may have been written of derogatorily

> > > in a Popular astrologers books, it does not make a difference to the

> > > common man, He is still respected by people like myself. Dhirubhai

> > > Ambani is a man through comapnies of whom, many have eearnt lakhs and

> > > married of their daughters and is still today a pivot of the Index even

> > > after many years of his death. Amitabh Bacchan theres no need to

> > > explain, but astrologically has Chitra constellation on the planet in

> > > his 8th again related to the houses of gains which brought him to the

> > > state he is today. The 8th if connected with 5th will never get a

> > > person money from the Stock market, and instead will bring in losses.

> > > Unless this 8th Lord apart from being in 5th in the example given, is

> > > connected with either the 2nd, or the 11th or the 6th, the native will

> > > not get wealth from the Stock markets. Again bringing us to the

> > > conclusions that Wealth giving Yogas have to be there in the horoscope.

> > > We have also broken the myth that Rahu is a evil or bad planet , and it

> > > has been proved conclusively with few example charts that Rahu does give

> > > good money,wealth and riches whatever one may call it. We have also

> > > broken the myth that the 8th house is always bad or the 8th Lord is

> > > always evil. This is what I was aiming at on while spending time on

> > > these Groups, to break myths and bring the truths closer to be percieved

> > > by one and all. regards, Bhaskar.

> >

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Respected Sreenadh ji,

 

                                 Ya it was very interesting tht ur earlier didnt

confirm of Sage saying , now tht i m very much clear, Thanks u so much talking

pains sir , sir i will wanna ask u (if time permit sir)more thing tht Saturn

inspite his Saturn is yoga karka in his chart didnt gave him results expect of

parental fore fathers property, Plz if u can add on it , Thanks Mohit

--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

 

Sreenadh <sreesog

Re: Rahu in 8th House

 

Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 4:50 PM

 

 

Dear Mohit ji,

    Interesting.  Your dad is 62 years of age as of now and let us see which of

the combination spelled-out by sage Bhrigu applies to your dad's chart.

 

1)  If Rahu is in 8th house (and is non-conjunct and unaspected by benefics, and

8th lord is weak and there if Rahu is conjunct with a malefic and if Rahu dasa

comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might

live upto less than 32 years only. 

   This combination does not apply to your dad's chart since the 8th lord is

strong since it is EXALTED IN NAVAMSA. Further no other malefic conjunct with

Rahu in 8th; this too points to the fact that the above combination do not apply

to your dad's chart.

2) But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with benefics (but unaspected by

benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may live upto 45 years of age.

  Again since the 8th lord is strong due to EXALTED IN NAVAMSA the above

combination do not apply to your dad's chart.

3) If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as

well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of

age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes).

   Certainly this combination applies to your dad's chart. What does the sage

say? " Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam " may be I should transilate it as -

" If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or aspected by benefics as

well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he may live upto 60 years of

age OR MORE (even if the dasa of Rahu comes) "

  Now the question is - when will the death come and will Rahu will have any

connection to it? The answer would be that Yes, Rahu do have a connection to

death for this horoscope and death may happen during Rahu antara during Saturn's

dasa - i.e between 2012 -2015 at between 65 to 68 years of age.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Mohit Virmani

<mohitvirmani33@ ...> wrote:

>

> Respected Sreenadh g,

>  

>                                    Well i did an example of my Dad who has

Rahu in 8th house is live n kicking at the age of 62yrs Well his Birth Details r

19-08-1947 Time is 11.05.00 am Place is Dehradun, Thanks Mohit

>

> --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:

>

>

> Sreenadh sreesog

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Rahu in 8th House

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Monday, August 10, 2009, 6:35 PM

>

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>  

>

>

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>    Interesting! But as usual, since I am more interesting in verifying the

results quoted by the sages, I will quote what the classics has to say about

Rahu in 8th house -

> 1) As per Chamatkara Chintamani -

>   NripaiH panditair vandito  ninditaH swaiH

>   Sakrid bhagyalabho asakrid bhramsa evaH

>  Dhanam jatakam tam janascha tyajanti

>  Sramagranthikrid randhrago bradhnasatruH

>                    (Chamatkara Chintamani 8-8)

> [if Rahu is in 8th house, will cause stomach trouble caused by extra effort..

He will loss all his money and people's support (at some point of his life,

especially in Rahu dasa). Even though the people in power and scholars will

respect him, the people close to him (relatives) will blame him. Even though

occasionally luck would follow (and wealth would come), generally unluckiness

prevails]

> 2) As per Brigu Sutra -

>   Atirogi dwatrimsad varshayushman

>   Subhayute panchaschatvarimsad varshe bhavathipe balayute

>   Swache shashti varshani va jeevitam

>                                      (Brigusutram Ch.8 Sl 22-23)

>  [if Rahu is in 8th house (and is unaspected by benefics, and 8th lord is weak

and if Rahu dasa comes then) the native will become a patient. If so, he might

live upto less than 32 years only.  But if that Rahu in 8th is placed along with

benefics (but unaspected by benefics and 8th lord is weak) then the native may

live upto 45 years of age. If Rahu is in 8th house and (placed along with or

aspected by benefics as well), 8th lord is strong or exalted as well, then he

may live upto 60 years of age (even if the dasa of Rahu comes)]

>   This is a very interesting and strong observation! If takes much courage to

speakout such strong results! What are your actual experiences - can anyone

provide real charts with Rahu in 8th house and for whom Rahus dasa is over?

> Note: As you could see the results for Rahu in8th house is not at all in tune

with some of the results given by Bhaskar ji in this group.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh