Guest guest Report post Posted August 22, 2007 Dear Ms Preeti Hope you are in best of your health and spirits. You have a good chart overall and your marriage seems after April 2008. With Best Wishes Narinder Juneja www.MyWebAstrologer.com K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.INDIA - brpsur Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:08 PM [Om Krishna Guru] marriage Sir,I have a querry regading marriage . when i will get married.My details:Name: PreetiDOB : 12.08.1981TOB : 02:10AMPOB : Bhubaneswar (20n14 85e50)Please answer my querry.I have got a proposal having the following details:Name : rajeshDOB : 28.06.1977TOB : 11:50PMPOB : 21n56 86e43Whether this proposal will lead to marriage.ThanksPreeti Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 22, 2007 ||Om Gurave Namah||Best RegardsAjay Zharotiaajayzharotia On 22-Aug-07, at 1:34 PM, MyWebAstrologer.com wrote: Dear Ms Preeti Hope you are in best of your health and spirits. You have a good chart overall and your marriage seems after April 2008.With Best Wishes Narinder Junejawww.MyWebAstrologer.com K-3/22, Basement, DLF phase-2,Gurgaon-122002, Haryana.INDIA-brpsur Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:08 PM[Om Krishna Guru] marriageSir,I have a querry regading marriage . when i will get married.My details:Name: PreetiDOB : 12.08.1981TOB : 02:10AMPOB : Bhubaneswar (20n14 85e50)Please answer my querry.I have got a proposal having the following details:Name : rajeshDOB : 28.06.1977TOB : 11:50PMPOB : 21n56 86e43Whether this proposal will lead to marriage.ThanksPreeti Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear List Members, Please look into this chart and find out the cause of non-marital issue till now. As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from Cp to Sg. The Sagi asc.comes correct as per the co-incident. What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8 and 2/12 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th matter. 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are influenced by 6th lord either through occupation, conjunction or by occupation in the navamsa of 6th lord. 5. Su is aspected by Sa. 6. No blessings are present in the chart. 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by Sa and Ju both. But this delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa. But this moderation is inactive. 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su but this damage is controlled by the aspect of Ju on Ve. The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 when the native was passing through Sa antara in Ju main. Me is fully eager to give the event during its antara period but the native did not get the fruit of the event. 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. Ju being LoD its aspect on house C is also benefic. Why the native could not marry till this time ? Can you members please give us the rason for non marital. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraNote: forwarded message attached. 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. I am 42 years of age and have not been succesful in finding a life partner for myself. Between the age of 25-28 my parents were looking out for a boy but usually the boys came out to be cheats. Hence I had dispensed off with idea of Marriage altogether. After 8-9 years I tried to search for a person myself through matrimonial portals but was not successful. Please I would like to know the reasons why I have been unlucky in finding a partner for myself and is there any hope left My birth details are 9th December 1965 Time 9:30 AM Place Lucknow, India My chart details are as below with Capricorn bein my Ascendant 10 Capricorn Ve 11 Aquarius Sa 12 Pisces 1 Aries 2 Taurus Mo 2 Taurus Ra 3 Gemini Ju 4 Cancer 5 Leo 6 Virgo 7 Libra 8 Scorpio Su 8 Scorpio Me 8 Scorpio Ke 9 Sagitarius Ma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Ramesh and Anup, When the Karak is very spoilt then that might spoil the event or deny it or delay it very much in life. Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve is in nak of Sun, its distance to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects a luminiary. Ve is FK for marriage is very spoilt. Other things regarding the validity of birth time I haven’t been able to check due to lack of time. But I just wanted to point this out to you that first things we must check the Karaks. That controls the status of house B. Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising order, which is not so with Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you all can figure out between yourselfs. Other good points u have written are influence of 6th lord etc are very nice and well covered. If you want to do a full rectification then u should get more data and try to study it closely. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of ramesh mishra Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM Fwd: Marriage Dear List Members, Please look into this chart and find out the cause of non-marital issue till now. As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from Cp to Sg. The Sagi asc.comes correct as per the co-incident. What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8 and 2/12 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th matter. 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are influenced by 6th lord either through occupation, conjunction or by occupation in the navamsa of 6th lord. 5. Su is aspected by Sa. 6. No blessings are present in the chart. 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by Sa and Ju both. But this delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa. But this moderation is inactive. 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su but this damage is controlled by the aspect of Ju on Ve. The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 when the native was passing through Sa antara in Ju main. Me is fully eager to give the event during its antara period but the native did not get the fruit of the event. 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. Ju being LoD its aspect on house C is also benefic. Why the native could not marry till this time ? Can you members please give us the rason for non marital. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Note: forwarded message attached. 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Ramesh and list members, As Ramesh wrote, the non-marital status is only justified if lagna is taken as Sagg. Ramesh has already given detailed reading about this.I want to add more reasons for non-marital status like... 1] Mer and Jup is retro, placed in 12th and 7th house in Rasi chart 2] Saturn, the FK is with Ven in navamsa and Venus being 6th lord is in house A, (sign of saturn) 3]The native is more of Venusian qualitied as seen from lagna and Moon in D3,D9,D30.Distance of Venus from Sun also shows this. 4]This also shows some relationship might have been there, causing more delay.Her brilliancy shows her confidence for getting married at her own will. 5]One zero in 2nd house by Saturn is one of a syptom for this non-marital status. 6] looking at basic strength of 5th,7th,12th house its below 84 points. 7] 5 planets gets more than 4 points, affecting status of the chart accordingly to negative side. 8]Retro jup is also affecting house C.(being 9th from 7th) More reasons are expected from other members. Regards Anup --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear List Members, > Please look into this chart and find out the > cause of non-marital issue till now. > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc > from Cp to Sg. The Sagi asc.comes correct as > per the co-incident. > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is > 6/8, 6/8 and 2/12 > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th > matter. > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C > are influenced by 6th lord either through > occupation, conjunction or by occupation in the > navamsa of 6th lord. > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused > by Sa and Ju both. But this delay is also > moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa. But > this moderation is inactive. > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su > but this damage is controlled by the aspect of > Ju on Ve. > The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 > when the native was passing through Sa antara > in Ju main. > Me is fully eager to give the event during > its antara period but the native did not get > the fruit of the event. > 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. > Ju being LoD its aspect on house C is also > benefic. > Why the native could not marry till this time > ? > Can you members please give us the rason for > non marital. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in > your inbox. > To: > " vinitaramani " <vinitaom > Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:56:08 -0000 > Marriage > > I am 42 years of age and have not been > succesful in finding a life > partner for myself. Between the age of 25-28 my > parents were looking > out for a boy but usually the boys came out to > be cheats. Hence I > had dispensed off with idea of > Marriage altogether. After 8-9 years I tried to > search for a person > myself through matrimonial portals but was not > successful. Please I > would like to know the reasons why I have been > unlucky in finding a > partner for myself and is there any hope left > My birth details are > > 9th December 1965 Time 9:30 AM Place Lucknow, > India > > My chart details are as below with Capricorn > bein my Ascendant > > 10 Capricorn Ve > 11 Aquarius Sa > 12 Pisces > 1 Aries > 2 Taurus Mo > 2 Taurus Ra > 3 Gemini Ju > 4 Cancer > 5 Leo > 6 Virgo > 7 Libra > 8 Scorpio Su > 8 Scorpio Me > 8 Scorpio Ke > 9 Sagitarius Ma > > > Regards Anup ______________________________\ ____ Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness./webhosting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Anup, i dont get points 1st 7th and 8th. can you please elaborate on them. thanks/regards harjeet , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Ramesh and list members, > > As Ramesh wrote, the non-marital status is only > justified if lagna is taken as Sagg. > Ramesh has already given detailed reading about > this.I want to add more reasons for non-marital > status like... > 1] Mer and Jup is retro, placed in 12th and 7th > house in Rasi chart > 2] Saturn, the FK is with Ven in navamsa and > Venus being 6th lord is in house A, (sign of > saturn) > 3]The native is more of Venusian qualitied as > seen from lagna and Moon in D3,D9,D30.Distance of > Venus from Sun also shows this. > 4]This also shows some relationship might have > been there, causing more delay.Her brilliancy > shows her confidence for getting married at her > own will. > 5]One zero in 2nd house by Saturn is one of a > syptom for this non-marital status. > 6] looking at basic strength of 5th,7th,12th > house its below 84 points. > 7] 5 planets gets more than 4 points, affecting > status of the chart accordingly to negative side. > 8]Retro jup is also affecting house C.(being 9th > from 7th) > > More reasons are expected from other members. > > Regards > Anup > > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 > wrote: > > > Dear List Members, > > Please look into this chart and find out the > > cause of non-marital issue till now. > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc > > from Cp to Sg. The Sagi asc.comes correct as > > per the co-incident. > > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is > > 6/8, 6/8 and 2/12 > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th > > matter. > > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C > > are influenced by 6th lord either through > > occupation, conjunction or by occupation in the > > navamsa of 6th lord. > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused > > by Sa and Ju both. But this delay is also > > moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa. But > > this moderation is inactive. > > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su > > but this damage is controlled by the aspect of > > Ju on Ve. > > The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 > > when the native was passing through Sa antara > > in Ju main. > > Me is fully eager to give the event during > > its antara period but the native did not get > > the fruit of the event. > > 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. > > Ju being LoD its aspect on house C is also > > benefic. > > Why the native could not marry till this time > > ? > > Can you members please give us the rason for > > non marital. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in > > your inbox. > To: > > > " vinitaramani " <vinitaom > > Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:56:08 -0000 > > Marriage > > > > I am 42 years of age and have not been > > succesful in finding a life > > partner for myself. Between the age of 25-28 my > > parents were looking > > out for a boy but usually the boys came out to > > be cheats. Hence I > > had dispensed off with idea of > > Marriage altogether. After 8-9 years I tried to > > search for a person > > myself through matrimonial portals but was not > > successful. Please I > > would like to know the reasons why I have been > > unlucky in finding a > > partner for myself and is there any hope left > > My birth details are > > > > 9th December 1965 Time 9:30 AM Place Lucknow, > > India > > > > My chart details are as below with Capricorn > > bein my Ascendant > > > > 10 Capricorn Ve > > 11 Aquarius Sa > > 12 Pisces > > 1 Aries > > 2 Taurus Mo > > 2 Taurus Ra > > 3 Gemini Ju > > 4 Cancer > > 5 Leo > > 6 Virgo > > 7 Libra > > 8 Scorpio Su > > 8 Scorpio Me > > 8 Scorpio Ke > > 9 Sagitarius Ma > > > > > > > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, When you say DBCE points, Which house you are referring to ? Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. From traditional VA. Look at the chart from moon. And 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect of shani. Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari between shani and mangal. How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds someone in shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in guru-shukra ? 95-97 time frame ? Satish P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna should be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and take capri lagna. If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in 8th and retro. How is overall health of the native ? --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might spoil > the event or deny it or > delay it very much in life. > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve is in > nak of Sun, its distance > to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects a > luminiary. Ve is FK for > marriage is very spoilt. > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth time I > haven't been able to > check due to lack of time. But I just wanted to > point this out to you that > first things we must check the Karaks. That > controls the status of house B. > > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising order, > which is not so with > Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you all > can figure out between > yourselfs. > > > > Other good points u have written are influence of > 6th lord etc are very nice > and well covered. > > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u should > get more data and try > to study it closely. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM > > Fwd: > Marriage > > > > Dear List Members, > > Please look into this chart and find out the cause > of non-marital issue till > now. > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from Cp > to Sg. The Sagi > asc.comes correct as per the co-incident. > > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8 > and 2/12 > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th matter. > > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are > influenced by 6th lord > either through occupation, conjunction or by > occupation in the navamsa of > 6th lord. > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by Sa > and Ju both. But this > delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on > Sa. But this moderation > is inactive. > > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su but this > damage is controlled by > the aspect of Ju on Ve. > > The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 when the > native was passing > through Sa antara in Ju main. > > Me is fully eager to give the event during its > antara period but the native > did not get the fruit of the event. > > 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. Ju > being LoD its aspect on > house C is also benefic. > > Why the native could not marry till this time ? > > Can you members please give us the rason for non > marital. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > _____ > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your > inbox. Click > <http://in.rd./tagline_mail_4/*http:/help./l/in//mail > /mail/tools/tools-08.html/> here. > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Satish, By DBCE points I mean by 3:6:10:11 points from 1st house they are in ascending order for Cap lagna. For Sag it was not so. Read Venus as NK instead of FK. I saw this chart and wrote this mail in Haste due to lack of time. I have just written that mail to highlight the KAS law about Ve to Sun > 43deg20 and Ve asp by Sa and Sa asp Luminary and also Ve in nak of Sun. Such charts generally have problem. Here Ve is NK and its status is spoilt. Rest, rectification, one needs more data and events to confirm. In either case, i.e. even in few mins, the status of Venus will not change, maybe its position in some d charts but that is going too much in detail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Tuesday August 28, 2007 3:16 PM To: RE: Fwd: Marriage Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, When you say DBCE points, Which house you are referring to ? Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. From traditional VA. Look at the chart from moon. And 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect of shani. Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari between shani and mangal. How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds someone in shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in guru-shukra ? 95-97 time frame ? Satish P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna should be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and take capri lagna. If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in 8th and retro. How is overall health of the native ? --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might spoil > the event or deny it or > delay it very much in life. > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve is in > nak of Sun, its distance > to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects a > luminiary. Ve is FK for > marriage is very spoilt. > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth time I > haven't been able to > check due to lack of time. But I just wanted to > point this out to you that > first things we must check the Karaks. That > controls the status of house B. > > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising order, > which is not so with > Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you all > can figure out between > yourselfs. > > > > Other good points u have written are influence of > 6th lord etc are very nice > and well covered. > > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u should > get more data and try > to study it closely. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM > > Fwd: > Marriage > > > > Dear List Members, > > Please look into this chart and find out the cause > of non-marital issue till > now. > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from Cp > to Sg. The Sagi > asc.comes correct as per the co-incident. > > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8 > and 2/12 > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th matter. > > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are > influenced by 6th lord > either through occupation, conjunction or by > occupation in the navamsa of > 6th lord. > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by Sa > and Ju both. But this > delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on > Sa. But this moderation > is inactive. > > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su but this > damage is controlled by > the aspect of Ju on Ve. > > The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 when the > native was passing > through Sa antara in Ju main. > > Me is fully eager to give the event during its > antara period but the native > did not get the fruit of the event. > > 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. Ju > being LoD its aspect on > house C is also benefic. > > Why the native could not marry till this time ? > > Can you members please give us the rason for non > marital. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > _____ > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your > inbox. Click > <http://in.rd./tagline_mail_4/*http:/help./l/in//mail > /mail/tools/tools-08.html/> here. > > > > ________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Anup, taking asc as saggi. mars becomes lord of E. would we still consider its effect as malefic on 7th house? thanks/regards harjeet , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > I am trying to give a little detail > > 1]Jup (lord of 1st house) is retro, and more > points, will also give result for 3rd,1st and > 11th house malefically.Here 11th house is house C > for 7th so result is reduced.Similarly lord of > 7th is in 12th , so status of 7th is enhanced in > negtaive way. > > 2]5 Planets with more points, means benefic for > the their respective placements and malefic for > their aspects with the same power. Among these > ,Venus is mostly effected with more points, being > lord of 6th in karkasthan.MARS > aspect with 4 points can also be treated malefic. > > > 3]The 8th points is covered i think in first > point. > > I may be wrong but its my understanding as per > few archives i have gone through. > > Regards > Anup > > > > --- harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > i dont get points 1st 7th and 8th. > > can you please elaborate on them. > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > --- In > > , > > " Anup. M " > > <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ramesh and list members, > > > > > > As Ramesh wrote, the non-marital status is > > only > > > justified if lagna is taken as Sagg. > > > Ramesh has already given detailed reading > > about > > > this.I want to add more reasons for > > non-marital > > > status like... > > > 1] Mer and Jup is retro, placed in 12th and > > 7th > > > house in Rasi chart > > > 2] Saturn, the FK is with Ven in navamsa and > > > Venus being 6th lord is in house A, (sign of > > > saturn) > > > 3]The native is more of Venusian qualitied as > > > seen from lagna and Moon in > > D3,D9,D30.Distance of > > > Venus from Sun also shows this. > > > 4]This also shows some relationship might > > have > > > been there, causing more delay.Her brilliancy > > > shows her confidence for getting married at > > her > > > own will. > > > 5]One zero in 2nd house by Saturn is one of a > > > syptom for this non-marital status. > > > 6] looking at basic strength of 5th,7th,12th > > > house its below 84 points. > > > 7] 5 planets gets more than 4 points, > > affecting > > > status of the chart accordingly to negative > > side. > > > 8]Retro jup is also affecting house C.(being > > 9th > > > from 7th) > > > > > > More reasons are expected from other members. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > Please look into this chart and find out > > the > > > > cause of non-marital issue till now. > > > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the > > Asc > > > > from Cp to Sg. The Sagi asc.comes correct > > as > > > > per the co-incident. > > > > What is seen in the chart is given > > hereunder. > > > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is > > > > 6/8, 6/8 and 2/12 > > > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for > > 7th > > > > matter. > > > > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B > > and C > > > > are influenced by 6th lord either through > > > > occupation, conjunction or by occupation in > > the > > > > navamsa of 6th lord. > > > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > > > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > > > > 7.There is combined delay in the chart > > caused > > > > by Sa and Ju both. But this delay is also > > > > moderated due to the aspect of Ju on Sa. > > But > > > > this moderation is inactive. > > > > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from > > Su > > > > but this damage is controlled by the aspect > > of > > > > Ju on Ve. > > > > The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec > > 1990 > > > > when the native was passing through Sa > > antara > > > > in Ju main. > > > > Me is fully eager to give the event > > during > > > > its antara period but the native did not > > get > > > > the fruit of the event. > > > > 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th > > house. > > > > Ju being LoD its aspect on house C is also > > > > benefic. > > > > Why the native could not marry till this > > time > > > > ? > > > > Can you members please give us the rason > > for > > > > non marital. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails > > in > > > > your inbox. > To: > > > > > > > " vinitaramani " <vinitaom@> > > > > Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:56:08 -0000 > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > I am 42 years of age and have not been > > > > succesful in finding a life > > > > partner for myself. Between the age of > > 25-28 my > > > > parents were looking > > > > out for a boy but usually the boys came out > > to > > > > be cheats. Hence I > > > > had dispensed off with idea of > > > > Marriage altogether. After 8-9 years I > > tried to > > > > search for a person > > > > myself through matrimonial portals but was > > not > > > > successful. 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Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Satish, I have a question. Under what circumstance will you check from Moon instead of Lagna or Sun. There are things like Blessings, lagna and 7th and also from mo and sun and their 7th etc we are checking also for say intelligence we do check lagna su and mo in which dreshkon, trishansa and navamsa they fall in. For timing of event, In one or two cases, I have seen Krushanji asking me to check from Moon as well but that was particularly in case of Death. So I am curious to know if you follow any fixed procedure for that i.e to select the timing from Lagna, Sun or Moon or what procedure do u follow or if u have come across this in particular VA texts, you can write a bit on that. It will be good learning. Can you please write a bit more on that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Tuesday August 28, 2007 3:16 PM To: RE: Fwd: Marriage Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, When you say DBCE points, Which house you are referring to ? Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. From traditional VA. Look at the chart from moon. And 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect of shani. Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari between shani and mangal. How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds someone in shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in guru-shukra ? 95-97 time frame ? Satish P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna should be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and take capri lagna. If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in 8th and retro. How is overall health of the native ? --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might spoil > the event or deny it or > delay it very much in life. > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve is in > nak of Sun, its distance > to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects a > luminiary. Ve is FK for > marriage is very spoilt. > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth time I > haven't been able to > check due to lack of time. But I just wanted to > point this out to you that > first things we must check the Karaks. That > controls the status of house B. > > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising order, > which is not so with > Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you all > can figure out between > yourselfs. > > > > Other good points u have written are influence of > 6th lord etc are very nice > and well covered. > > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u should > get more data and try > to study it closely. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM > > Fwd: > Marriage > > > > Dear List Members, > > Please look into this chart and find out the cause > of non-marital issue till > now. > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from Cp > to Sg. The Sagi > asc.comes correct as per the co-incident. > > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8 > and 2/12 > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th matter. > > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are > influenced by 6th lord > either through occupation, conjunction or by > occupation in the navamsa of > 6th lord. > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by Sa > and Ju both. But this > delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on > Sa. But this moderation > is inactive. > > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su but this > damage is controlled by > the aspect of Ju on Ve. > > The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 when the > native was passing > through Sa antara in Ju main. > > Me is fully eager to give the event during its > antara period but the native > did not get the fruit of the event. > > 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. Ju > being LoD its aspect on > house C is also benefic. > > Why the native could not marry till this time ? > > Can you members please give us the rason for non > marital. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > _____ > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your > inbox. Click > <http://in.rd./tagline_mail_4/*http:/help./l/in//mail > /mail/tools/tools-08.html/> here. > > > > ________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Anup, here we dont have event yet... mainly Nk and karaksthan afflicted seems to be the main cause of not having the event yet. as pointed out by Ashji again lord of lagna and 7th from it and similarly for mars and moon are all 6:8.. and sun and 7th is 1:4 in any case lord of D and E are always eager to give the event if the chart allows the quality would depend on the points of course. thanks/regards harjeet , " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear Harjeet, > > Yes,as you know Lod and LoE are always eager to > give event.Now Mars having 4 points,can be > treated as planet with more points (39 divided by > 12).Even in 7th house Mars get only 2 points in > SAV chart.In summary chart ,total Mars points are > 39 as comapared to 144, is weak in every house > including 7th.So, when Mars will be LoE or LoD, > the result will be malefic. > > Regards > Anup > > > > > > --- harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi > wrote: > > > Dear Anup, > > taking asc as saggi. > > mars becomes lord of E. > > would we still consider its effect as malefic > > on 7th house? > > thanks/regards > > harjeet > > > > --- In > > , > > " Anup. M " > > <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Harjeet, > > > I am trying to give a little detail > > > > > > 1]Jup (lord of 1st house) is retro, and more > > > points, will also give result for 3rd,1st and > > > 11th house malefically.Here 11th house is > > house C > > > for 7th so result is reduced.Similarly lord > > of > > > 7th is in 12th , so status of 7th is enhanced > > in > > > negtaive way. > > > > > > 2]5 Planets with more points, means benefic > > for > > > the their respective placements and malefic > > for > > > their aspects with the same power. Among > > these > > > ,Venus is mostly effected with more points, > > being > > > lord of 6th in karkasthan.MARS > > > aspect with 4 points can also be treated > > malefic. > > > > > > > > > 3]The 8th points is covered i think in first > > > point. > > > > > > I may be wrong but its my understanding as > > per > > > few archives i have gone through. > > > > > > Regards > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > --- harjeet bakshi <harjeet_bakshi@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Anup, > > > > i dont get points 1st 7th and 8th. > > > > can you please elaborate on them. > > > > thanks/regards > > > > harjeet > > > > --- In > > > > , > > > > " Anup. M " > > > > <dalh_1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh and list members, > > > > > > > > > > As Ramesh wrote, the non-marital status > > is > > > > only > > > > > justified if lagna is taken as Sagg. > > > > > Ramesh has already given detailed reading > > > > about > > > > > this.I want to add more reasons for > > > > non-marital > > > > > status like... > > > > > 1] Mer and Jup is retro, placed in 12th > > and > > > > 7th > > > > > house in Rasi chart > > > > > 2] Saturn, the FK is with Ven in navamsa > > and > > > > > Venus being 6th lord is in house A, > > (sign of > > > > > saturn) > > > > > 3]The native is more of Venusian > > qualitied as > > > > > seen from lagna and Moon in > > > > D3,D9,D30.Distance of > > > > > Venus from Sun also shows this. > > > > > 4]This also shows some relationship might > > > > have > > > > > been there, causing more delay.Her > > brilliancy > > > > > shows her confidence for getting married > > at > > > > her > > > > > own will. > > > > > 5]One zero in 2nd house by Saturn is one > > of a > > > > > syptom for this non-marital status. > > > > > 6] looking at basic strength of > > 5th,7th,12th > > > > > house its below 84 points. > > > > > 7] 5 planets gets more than 4 points, > > > > affecting > > > > > status of the chart accordingly to > > negative > > > > side. > > > > > 8]Retro jup is also affecting house > > C.(being > > > > 9th > > > > > from 7th) > > > > > > > > > > More reasons are expected from other > > members. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Anup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > Please look into this chart and find > > out > > > > the > > > > > > cause of non-marital issue till now. > > > > > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed > > the > > > > Asc > > > > > > from Cp to Sg. The Sagi asc.comes > > correct > > > > as > > > > > > per the co-incident. > > > > > > What is seen in the chart is given > > > > hereunder. > > > > > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and > > Mo is > > > > > > 6/8, 6/8 and 2/12 > > > > > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > > > > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A > > for > > > > 7th > > > > > > matter. > > > > > > 4. All the significant houses viz. > > A,B > > > > and C > > > > > > are influenced by 6th lord either > > through > > > > > > occupation, conjunction or by > > occupation in > > > > the > > > > > > navamsa of 6th lord. > > > > > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > > > > > 6. No blessings are present in the > > chart. > > > > > > 7.There is combined delay in the > > chart > > > > caused > > > > > > by Sa and Ju both. But this delay is > > also > > > > > > moderated due to the aspect of Ju on > > Sa. > > > > But > > > > > > this moderation is inactive. > > > > > > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace > > from > > > > Su > > > > > > but this damage is controlled by the > > aspect > > > > of > > > > > > Ju on Ve. > > > > > > The accumulated delay is over on 7 > > Dec > > > > 1990 > > > > > > when the native was passing through Sa > > > > antara > > > > > > in Ju main. > > > > > > Me is fully eager to give the event > > > > during > > > > > > its antara period but the native did > > not > > > > get > > > > > > the fruit of the event. > > > > > > 9. Two benefics are present in the > > 7th > > > > house. > > > > > > Ju being LoD its aspect on house C is > > also > > > > > > benefic. > > > > > > Why the native could not marry till > > this > > > > time > > > > > > ? > > > === message truncated === > > > Regards > Anup > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Travel. > http://travel./ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Ash, As per parashara one has to judge the chart from lagna or moon whichever is stronger. Some also look at it from the Sun. But moon is the fastest moving graha in the zodiac and it is a important and sensitive point in the chart. As it is said " Yatha Manasthiti Thatha Paristhisti " Literally meaning, the physical circumtances are a reflection of the mental circumstances. If the moon is severlely afflicted all the rajayogas and dhana yogas can come to a nought. Many times if moon has more planets with it or is exalted then it takes precedence over lagna. After the age of 30-32 ( maturity of moon) the chart works equally well from moon. Some charts work the best from moon. Sometimes events can be used to see which chart is dominating. V.D Bhat in his books have given many examples of similar looking charts except position of moon and how it changes the entire picture. Satish P.S. In the chart under discussion, I mentioned about shukra dasha but realized that it is aspecting house B. Can LoD and LoE give results even if they aspect houses A,B, or C ? How eager is NK to give the result of house B ? --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Satish, > > > > I have a question. Under what circumstance will you > check from Moon instead > of Lagna or Sun. > > > > There are things like Blessings, lagna and 7th and > also from mo and sun and > their 7th etc we are checking also for say > intelligence we do check lagna su > and mo in which dreshkon, trishansa and navamsa they > fall in. > > > > For timing of event, In one or two cases, I have > seen Krushanji asking me to > check from Moon as well but that was particularly in > case of Death. > > > > So I am curious to know if you follow any fixed > procedure for that i.e to > select the timing from Lagna, Sun or Moon or what > procedure do u follow or > if u have come across this in particular VA texts, > you can write a bit on > that. It will be good learning. > > > > Can you please write a bit more on that. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On > Behalf Of SPK > Tuesday August 28, 2007 3:16 PM > > RE: Fwd: > Marriage > > > > Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, > > When you say DBCE points, Which house you are > referring to ? > > Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. > > From traditional VA. Look at the chart from moon. > And > 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect of > shani. > Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari between > shani and mangal. > > How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? > > I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds someone > in > shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in guru-shukra > ? > 95-97 time frame ? > > Satish > > P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna should > be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and take > capri > lagna. > > If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in 8th > and > retro. How is overall health of the native ? > --- Ash <kas <kas%40ashtro.ca> > > wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might > spoil > > the event or deny it or > > delay it very much in life. > > > > > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve is in > > nak of Sun, its distance > > to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects a > > luminiary. Ve is FK for > > marriage is very spoilt. > > > > > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth time > I > > haven't been able to > > check due to lack of time. But I just wanted to > > point this out to you that > > first things we must check the Karaks. That > > controls the status of house B. > > > > > > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising > order, > > which is not so with > > Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you all > > can figure out between > > yourselfs. > > > > > > > > Other good points u have written are influence of > > 6th lord etc are very nice > > and well covered. > > > > > > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u > should > > get more data and try > > to study it closely. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> > vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> > vents ] > On > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM > > > > Fwd: > > Marriage > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > Please look into this chart and find out the cause > > of non-marital issue till > > now. > > > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from > Cp > > to Sg. The Sagi > > asc.comes correct as per the co-incident. > > > > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. > > > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8 > > and 2/12 > > > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th > matter. > > > > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are > > influenced by 6th lord > > either through occupation, conjunction or by > > occupation in the navamsa of > > 6th lord. > > > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > > > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > > > > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by > Sa > > and Ju both. But this > > delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on > > Sa. But this moderation > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Satish, Thanks for your quick reply. I am still not clear on the methodology to follow. As per your mail, we should see 1) Moon if its unccha i.e. in Taurus 2) If Moon is with more planets What happens if Ra is with Mo or Ketu? As per some books it can either be very bad as it spoils the mind makes one obsessive and at in some other time it might be called shakti yog which might give exceptional powers. So in such case what to do or how to consider Moon. Lets say Mo in Ta and with Ra or Ketu. I do not have the book of V.D Bhatt, if he has given us some methodology to judge which to take or how to systematically compare i.e. what steps to follow systematically then it will be great. I am not clear on what is meant when you said that chart works well? I thought once u select Mo or Lagna or Sun then we should follow that? Is there any reason why this changes w.r.t age ? Is some comparison given for evaluating Sun as well i.e to choose the most powerful from Lagna , Moon or Sun? Yes, thanks for the translating the Sanskrit shoke its appreciated. If you get a chance, can you please give a step by step approach for proper selection of the stronger of Lagna, Sun or Moon please it will be great. Thanks Ps: I will reply to your query on the chart in my next mail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Tuesday August 28, 2007 7:13 PM RE: Fwd: Marriage Dear Ash, As per parashara one has to judge the chart from lagna or moon whichever is stronger. Some also look at it from the Sun. But moon is the fastest moving graha in the zodiac and it is a important and sensitive point in the chart. As it is said " Yatha Manasthiti Thatha Paristhisti " Literally meaning, the physical circumtances are a reflection of the mental circumstances. If the moon is severlely afflicted all the rajayogas and dhana yogas can come to a nought. Many times if moon has more planets with it or is exalted then it takes precedence over lagna. After the age of 30-32 ( maturity of moon) the chart works equally well from moon. Some charts work the best from moon. Sometimes events can be used to see which chart is dominating. V.D Bhat in his books have given many examples of similar looking charts except position of moon and how it changes the entire picture. Satish P.S. In the chart under discussion, I mentioned about shukra dasha but realized that it is aspecting house B. Can LoD and LoE give results even if they aspect houses A,B, or C ? How eager is NK to give the result of house B ? --- Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Satish, > > > > I have a question. Under what circumstance will you > check from Moon instead > of Lagna or Sun. > > > > There are things like Blessings, lagna and 7th and > also from mo and sun and > their 7th etc we are checking also for say > intelligence we do check lagna su > and mo in which dreshkon, trishansa and navamsa they > fall in. > > > > For timing of event, In one or two cases, I have > seen Krushanji asking me to > check from Moon as well but that was particularly in > case of Death. > > > > So I am curious to know if you follow any fixed > procedure for that i.e to > select the timing from Lagna, Sun or Moon or what > procedure do u follow or > if u have come across this in particular VA texts, > you can write a bit on > that. It will be good learning. > > > > Can you please write a bit more on that. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On > Behalf Of SPK > Tuesday August 28, 2007 3:16 PM > > RE: Fwd: > Marriage > > > > Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, > > When you say DBCE points, Which house you are > referring to ? > > Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. > > From traditional VA. Look at the chart from moon. > And > 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect of > shani. > Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari between > shani and mangal. > > How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? > > I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds someone > in > shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in guru-shukra > ? > 95-97 time frame ? > > Satish > > P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna should > be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and take > capri > lagna. > > If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in 8th > and > retro. How is overall health of the native ? > --- Ash <kas <kas%40ashtro.ca> > > wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might > spoil > > the event or deny it or > > delay it very much in life. > > > > > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve is in > > nak of Sun, its distance > > to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects a > > luminiary. Ve is FK for > > marriage is very spoilt. > > > > > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth time > I > > haven't been able to > > check due to lack of time. But I just wanted to > > point this out to you that > > first things we must check the Karaks. That > > controls the status of house B. > > > > > > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising > order, > > which is not so with > > Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you all > > can figure out between > > yourselfs. > > > > > > > > Other good points u have written are influence of > > 6th lord etc are very nice > > and well covered. > > > > > > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u > should > > get more data and try > > to study it closely. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro. <http://www.ashtro.ca> > ca> http://www.ashtro. > <http://www.ashtro.ca> ca > > > > _____ > > > > astrologyandtiminge > <%40> > vents > > [astrologyandtiminge > <%40> > vents ] > On > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM > > > > Fwd: > > Marriage > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > Please look into this chart and find out the cause > > of non-marital issue till > > now. > > > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from > Cp > > to Sg. The Sagi > > asc.comes correct as per the co-incident. > > > > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. > > > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8 > > and 2/12 > > > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th > matter. > > > > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are > > influenced by 6th lord > > either through occupation, conjunction or by > > occupation in the navamsa of > > 6th lord. > > > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > > > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > > > > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by > Sa > > and Ju both. But this > > delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on > > Sa. But this moderation > === message truncated === ________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 In the chart under discussion, I mentioned about shukra dasha but realized that it is aspecting house B. Can LoD and LoE give results even if they aspect houses A,B, or C ? How eager is NK to give the result of house B ? Dear Satish, LoD and LoE are eager to give result. If they aspect House A, B or C then they themselves OR their SD’s can step in and give the result. LoD and LoE are special. Karak’s control the status of House B. For timing of event LoD and LoE are special and we are also giving or add +5 points in the WS to separate them from the other planets. LoD and LoE act based on their ownership, irrespective of the points. So they are eager by nature to deliver the timing of event. I hope it’s clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Satish, Can you plz elaborate this more.You wrote that when Moon is afflicted ,all rajayogas and dhanyogas come to a nought. But here in KAS, even Sun and Moon are never treated bad, not even being 6th lord or 12th lord. So how the quality of the chart be approached considering Moon affliction by some other aspect or conjuction? And what about " Sudarshan chakra " a combined view from Asc, Moon and Sun from these three different reckoning points? This is also considered for auspicious and inauspicious happenings and the age period of their occurence. Regards, Anup --- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > Dear Ash, > > As per parashara one has to judge the chart > from lagna > or moon whichever is stronger. Some also look > at it > from the Sun. But moon is the fastest moving > graha in > the zodiac and it is a important and sensitive > point > in the chart. As it is said > " Yatha Manasthiti Thatha Paristhisti " > > Literally meaning, the physical circumtances > are a > reflection of the mental circumstances. > > If the moon is severlely afflicted all the > rajayogas > and dhana yogas can come to a nought. Many > times if > moon has more planets with it or is exalted > then it > takes precedence over lagna. After the age of > 30-32 ( > maturity of moon) the chart works equally well > from > moon. Some charts work the best from moon. > Sometimes > events can be used to see which chart is > dominating. > > V.D Bhat in his books have given many examples > of > similar looking charts except position of moon > and how > it changes the entire picture. > > Satish > > P.S. > > In the chart under discussion, I mentioned > about > shukra dasha but realized that it is aspecting > house > B. Can LoD and LoE give results even if they > aspect > houses A,B, or C ? How eager is NK to give the > result > of house B ? > > --- Ash <kas wrote: > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > I have a question. Under what circumstance > will you > > check from Moon instead > > of Lagna or Sun. > > > > > > > > There are things like Blessings, lagna and > 7th and > > also from mo and sun and > > their 7th etc we are checking also for say > > intelligence we do check lagna su > > and mo in which dreshkon, trishansa and > navamsa they > > fall in. > > > > > > > > For timing of event, In one or two cases, I > have > > seen Krushanji asking me to > > check from Moon as well but that was > particularly in > > case of Death. > > > > > > > > So I am curious to know if you follow any > fixed > > procedure for that i.e to > > select the timing from Lagna, Sun or Moon or > what > > procedure do u follow or > > if u have come across this in particular VA > texts, > > you can write a bit on > > that. It will be good learning. > > > > > > > > Can you please write a bit more on that. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of SPK > > Tuesday August 28, 2007 3:16 PM > > > > RE: Fwd: > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, > > > > When you say DBCE points, Which house you are > > referring to ? > > > > Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. > > > > From traditional VA. Look at the chart from > moon. > > And > > 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect > of > > shani. > > Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari > between > > shani and mangal. > > > > How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? > > > > I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds > someone > > in > > shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in > guru-shukra > > ? > > 95-97 time frame ? > > > > Satish > > > > P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna > should > > be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and > take > > capri > > lagna. > > > > If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in > 8th > > and > > retro. How is overall health of the native ? > > --- Ash <kas > <kas%40ashtro.ca> > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > > > > > > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that > might > > spoil > > > the event or deny it or > > > delay it very much in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also > Ve is in > > > nak of Sun, its distance > > > to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa > aspects a > > > luminiary. Ve is FK for > > > marriage is very spoilt. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other things regarding the validity of > birth time > > I > > > haven't been able to > > > check due to lack of time. But I just > wanted to > > > point this out to you that > > > first things we must check the Karaks. That > > > controls the status of house B. > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === Regards Anup ______________________________\ ____ Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness./webhosting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet, Satish and all, Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. Please look at rasi chart. Jup is in house B and he aspects Sa, LoA. Is it not delay caused by Ju. FK is Sa who is weak in WS but NK Ve is strong in WS for 7th. This Ve is spoiled so both the karakas are spoiled and weak enough to deny the event. The saving point I observed that Ju LoD though retrograted is in house B with strong 6 bindus thus helping the house D.Due to its retrogression its nature is enhanced.Ju antara will be eager to give the event but Ju antara starts very late in her life. Ve is SD to Ju and Ve is also 6th lord .Her marital life is also indicated with disharmony.It is expected that marriage should take place either during the planets who are weak or by the planet of 6th lord. Ve is through 26 Feb 2010 and 28 Apr 2013.The marriage is expected in its 3 rd sector running through 08 Apr 2012 to 28 Apr 2013. When we go more closer then Apr/May 2012 is expected the probable time of marriage. According to my concept, I may be wrong also, I reject the denial but late marriage might be there. The problem is that how to get the feed back ? May Krushnaji spare some time to guide us . Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraSPK <aquaris_rising wrote: Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup,When you say DBCE points, Which house you arereferring to ?Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. From traditional VA. Look at the chart from moon. And7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect ofshani.Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari betweenshani and mangal. How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ?I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds someone inshani -shukra dasha. What transpired in guru-shukra ?95-97 time frame ?SatishP.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna shouldbe sagi or capri. I go by what is given and take caprilagna.If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in 8th andretro. How is overall health of the native ?--- Ash <kas wrote:> Dear Ramesh and Anup,> > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might spoil> the event or deny it or> delay it very much in life. > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve is in> nak of Sun, its distance> to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects a> luminiary. Ve is FK for> marriage is very spoilt. > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth time I> haven't been able to> check due to lack of time. But I just wanted to> point this out to you that> first things we must check the Karaks. That> controls the status of house B.> > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising order,> which is not so with> Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you all> can figure out between> yourselfs.> > > > Other good points u have written are influence of> 6th lord etc are very nice> and well covered.> > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u should> get more data and try> to study it closely. > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On> Behalf Of ramesh mishra> Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM> > Fwd: > Marriage> > > > Dear List Members,> > Please look into this chart and find out the cause> of non-marital issue till> now.> > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from Cp> to Sg. The Sagi> asc.comes correct as per the co-incident.> > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder.> > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8> and 2/12> > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43> > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th matter.> > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are> influenced by 6th lord> either through occupation, conjunction or by> occupation in the navamsa of> 6th lord.> > 5. Su is aspected by Sa.> > 6. No blessings are present in the chart.> > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by Sa> and Ju both. But this> delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on> Sa. But this moderation> is inactive.> > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su but this> damage is controlled by> the aspect of Ju on Ve.> > The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 when the> native was passing> through Sa antara in Ju main.> > Me is fully eager to give the event during its> antara period but the native> did not get the fruit of the event.> > 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. Ju> being LoD its aspect on> house C is also benefic.> > Why the native could not marry till this time ?> > Can you members please give us the rason for non> marital.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > Note: forwarded message attached.> > > > _____ > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your> inbox. Click><http://in.rd./tagline_mail_4/*http:/help./l/in//mail> /mail/tools/tools-08.html/> here.> > > > ________Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Searchhttp://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage in your inbox. Click here for happy ending. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Ash, Procedure might be look which is strongest amongst Lagna, Su and Mo and check from there.See if Mo is the strongest planet amongst Lagna and Su then we may check the event taking Mo as lagna. We have to pay special attention while doing so. I do not know what Satish may be thinking. Thanks and regards. Ramesh MishraAsh <kas wrote: Dear Satish, I have a question. Under what circumstance will you check from Moon instead of Lagna or Sun. There are things like Blessings, lagna and 7th and also from mo and sun and their 7th etc we are checking also for say intelligence we do check lagna su and mo in which dreshkon, trishansa and navamsa they fall in. For timing of event, In one or two cases, I have seen Krushanji asking me to check from Moon as well but that was particularly in case of Death. So I am curious to know if you follow any fixed procedure for that i.e to select the timing from Lagna, Sun or Moon or what procedure do u follow or if u have come across this in particular VA texts, you can write a bit on that. It will be good learning. Can you please write a bit more on that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPKTuesday August 28, 2007 3:16 PM Subject: RE: Fwd: Marriage Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup,When you say DBCE points, Which house you arereferring to ?Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. From traditional VA. Look at the chart from moon. And7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect ofshani.Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari betweenshani and mangal. How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ?I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds someone inshani -shukra dasha. What transpired in guru-shukra ?95-97 time frame ?SatishP.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna shouldbe sagi or capri. I go by what is given and take caprilagna.If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in 8th andretro. How is overall health of the native ?--- Ash <kas wrote:> Dear Ramesh and Anup,> > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might spoil> the event or deny it or> delay it very much in life. > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve is in> nak of Sun, its distance> to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects a> luminiary. Ve is FK for> marriage is very spoilt. > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth time I> haven't been able to> check due to lack of time. But I just wanted to> point this out to you that> first things we must check the Karaks. That> controls the status of house B.> > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising order,> which is not so with> Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you all> can figure out between> yourselfs.> > > > Other good points u have written are influence of> 6th lord etc are very nice> and well covered.> > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u should> get more data and try> to study it closely. > > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca> > _____ > > > On> Behalf Of ramesh mishra> Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM> > Fwd: > Marriage> > > > Dear List Members,> > Please look into this chart and find out the cause> of non-marital issue till> now.> > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from Cp> to Sg. The Sagi> asc.comes correct as per the co-incident.> > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder.> > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8> and 2/12> > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43> > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th matter.> > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are> influenced by 6th lord> either through occupation, conjunction or by> occupation in the navamsa of> 6th lord.> > 5. Su is aspected by Sa.> > 6. No blessings are present in the chart.> > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by Sa> and Ju both. But this> delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on> Sa. But this moderation> is inactive.> > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su but this> damage is controlled by> the aspect of Ju on Ve.> > The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 when the> native was passing> through Sa antara in Ju main.> > Me is fully eager to give the event during its> antara period but the native> did not get the fruit of the event.> > 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. Ju> being LoD its aspect on> house C is also benefic.> > Why the native could not marry till this time ?> > Can you members please give us the rason for non> marital.> > Thanks and regards.> > Ramesh Mishra> > Note: forwarded message attached.> > > > _____ > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your> inbox. Click><http://in.rd./tagline_mail_4/*http:/help./l/in//mail> /mail/tools/tools-08.html/> here.> > > > ________Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Searchhttp://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2007 Dear Ash, Anup and all, Here is few past events given by native.Can now asc be fixed whether it is Cp or Saggi. a.She is an asthma patient. b.Started career in IT at the age of 23 yrs. c.Had streneous relation with Mother and youngest sister. d.Mother died in Aug 2003 e.Started talking very late. Thanks and regard Ramesh MishraAsh <kas wrote: In the chart under discussion, I mentioned aboutshukra dasha but realized that it is aspecting houseB. Can LoD and LoE give results even if they aspecthouses A,B, or C ? How eager is NK to give the resultof house B ?Dear Satish, LoD and LoE are eager to give result. If they aspect House A, B or C then they themselves OR their SD’s can step in and give the result. LoD and LoE are special. Karak’s control the status of House B. For timing of event LoD and LoE are special and we are also giving or add +5 points in the WS to separate them from the other planets. LoD and LoE act based on their ownership, irrespective of the points. So they are eager by nature to deliver the timing of event. I hope it’s clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2007 Dear Ramesh, As you are saying see strength of lagna, moon or sun in a natal chart and then we sld consider lagna as strogest factor.Cant we access this applying KAS rules and then proceed for an event? This may be a clash of rules itself if we go from BAV to summary chart and D-charts. Hope you will understand what i want to say. For example,an event may be feasible from Moon chart and not in lagna or taking sun as lagna. Regards Anup --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Ash, > Procedure might be look which is strongest > amongst Lagna, Su and Mo and check from > there.See if Mo is the strongest planet amongst > Lagna and Su then we may check the event taking > Mo as lagna. > We have to pay special attention while doing > so. > I do not know what Satish may be thinking. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Ash <kas wrote: > Dear Satish, > > I have a question. Under what circumstance > will you check from Moon instead of Lagna or > Sun. > > There are things like Blessings, lagna and > 7th and also from mo and sun and their 7th etc > we are checking also for say intelligence we do > check lagna su and mo in which dreshkon, > trishansa and navamsa they fall in. > > For timing of event, In one or two cases, I > have seen Krushanji asking me to check from > Moon as well but that was particularly in case > of Death. > > So I am curious to know if you follow any > fixed procedure for that i.e to select the > timing from Lagna, Sun or Moon or what > procedure do u follow or if u have come across > this in particular VA texts, you can write a > bit on that. It will be good learning. > > Can you please write a bit more on that. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of SPK > Tuesday August 28, 2007 3:16 PM > > RE: Fwd: > Marriage > > > Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, > > When you say DBCE points, Which house you are > referring to ? > > Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. > > From traditional VA. Look at the chart from > moon. And > 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect > of > shani. > Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari > between > shani and mangal. > > How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? > > I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds > someone in > shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in > guru-shukra ? > 95-97 time frame ? > > Satish > > P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna > should > be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and > take capri > lagna. > > If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in > 8th and > retro. How is overall health of the native ? > --- Ash <kas wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might > spoil > > the event or deny it or > > delay it very much in life. > > > > > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve > is in > > nak of Sun, its distance > > to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects > a > > luminiary. Ve is FK for > > marriage is very spoilt. > > > > > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth > time I > > haven't been able to > > check due to lack of time. But I just wanted > to > > point this out to you that > > first things we must check the Karaks. That > > controls the status of house B. > > > > > > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising > order, > > which is not so with > > Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you > all > > can figure out between > > yourselfs. > > > > > > > > Other good points u have written are > influence of > > 6th lord etc are very nice > > and well covered. > > > > > > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u > should > > get more data and try > > to study it closely. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM > > > > Fwd: > > Marriage > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > Please look into this chart and find out the > cause > > of non-marital issue till > > now. > > > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc > from Cp > > to Sg. The Sagi > > asc.comes correct as per the co-incident. > > > > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. > > > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is > 6/8, 6/8 > > and 2/12 > > > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th > matter. > > > > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C > are > > influenced by 6th lord > > either through occupation, conjunction or by > > occupation in the navamsa of > > 6th lord. > > > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > > > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > === message truncated === Regards Anup ______________________________\ ____ Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv./collections/222 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2007 Dear Anup, If moon is severley afflicted basically the chart stature is reduced. Just as severly afflicted 9th lord will redude the status of the chart. Think of these as lenses through which quality of chart has to be ascertained. Strong lagna/lagna lord, strong 9th house/9th lord. Do the same from moon lagna. If all these factors are in good order the results or qulaity of results will be better and will flow without obstruction. Moon is very sensitive, if moon is in gandanta severly afflicted ( Say with Rahu/ketu, shani and mangal) the quality of results will suffer. In the extreme case the person may be retarded, etc. so naturally all the yogas have to be seen through these lenses. As ash has pointed out, the quality of result can depend on strength or dignity of karaka. Think of moon as a super karaka( Super because, mind is where it all happens and chandra is karaka for mind). Prafulla has mentioned how to look for which lagna is stronger. Unfortunately many times it is judement call. Satish --- " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Satish, > > Can you plz elaborate this more.You > wrote that when Moon is afflicted ,all rajayogas > and dhanyogas come to a nought. > > But here in KAS, even Sun and Moon are never > treated bad, not even being 6th lord or 12th > lord. > So how the quality of the chart be approached > considering Moon affliction by some other aspect > or conjuction? > > And what about " Sudarshan chakra " a combined view > from Asc, Moon and Sun from these three different > reckoning points? > > This is also considered for auspicious and > inauspicious happenings and the age period of > their occurence. > > Regards, > Anup > > > > --- SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > As per parashara one has to judge the chart > > from lagna > > or moon whichever is stronger. Some also look > > at it > > from the Sun. But moon is the fastest moving > > graha in > > the zodiac and it is a important and sensitive > > point > > in the chart. As it is said > > " Yatha Manasthiti Thatha Paristhisti " > > > > Literally meaning, the physical circumtances > > are a > > reflection of the mental circumstances. > > > > If the moon is severlely afflicted all the > > rajayogas > > and dhana yogas can come to a nought. Many > > times if > > moon has more planets with it or is exalted > > then it > > takes precedence over lagna. After the age of > > 30-32 ( > > maturity of moon) the chart works equally well > > from > > moon. Some charts work the best from moon. > > Sometimes > > events can be used to see which chart is > > dominating. > > > > V.D Bhat in his books have given many examples > > of > > similar looking charts except position of moon > > and how > > it changes the entire picture. > > > > Satish > > > > P.S. > > > > In the chart under discussion, I mentioned > > about > > shukra dasha but realized that it is aspecting > > house > > B. Can LoD and LoE give results even if they > > aspect > > houses A,B, or C ? How eager is NK to give the > > result > > of house B ? > > > > --- Ash <kas wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a question. Under what circumstance > > will you > > > check from Moon instead > > > of Lagna or Sun. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are things like Blessings, lagna and > > 7th and > > > also from mo and sun and > > > their 7th etc we are checking also for say > > > intelligence we do check lagna su > > > and mo in which dreshkon, trishansa and > > navamsa they > > > fall in. > > > > > > > > > > > > For timing of event, In one or two cases, I > > have > > > seen Krushanji asking me to > > > check from Moon as well but that was > > particularly in > > > case of Death. > > > > > > > > > > > > So I am curious to know if you follow any > > fixed > > > procedure for that i.e to > > > select the timing from Lagna, Sun or Moon or > > what > > > procedure do u follow or > > > if u have come across this in particular VA > > texts, > > > you can write a bit on > > > that. It will be good learning. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please write a bit more on that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On > > > Behalf Of SPK > > > Tuesday August 28, 2007 3:16 PM > > > > > > RE: Fwd: > > > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, > > > > > > When you say DBCE points, Which house you are > > > referring to ? > > > > > > Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. > > > > > > From traditional VA. Look at the chart from > > moon. > > > And > > > 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect > > of > > > shani. > > > Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari > > between > > > shani and mangal. > > > > > > How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? > > > > > > I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds > > someone > > > in > > > shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in > > guru-shukra > > > ? > > > 95-97 time frame ? > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna > > should > > > be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and > > take > > > capri > > > lagna. > > > > > > If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in > > 8th > > > and > > > retro. How is overall health of the native ? > > > --- Ash <kas > > <kas%40ashtro.ca> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2007 Ramesh, I am taking lagna as Makar so I do not have jupiter delay. Lets see with the new data whether the lagna is sagi or capri Satish --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet, Satish and all, > Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. > Please look at rasi chart. Jup is in house B and he > aspects Sa, LoA. Is it not delay caused by Ju. > FK is Sa who is weak in WS but NK Ve is strong in > WS for 7th. This Ve is spoiled so both the karakas > are spoiled and weak enough to deny the event. > The saving point I observed that Ju LoD though > retrograted is in house B with strong 6 bindus thus > helping the house D.Due to its retrogression its > nature is enhanced.Ju antara will be eager to give > the event but Ju antara starts very late in her > life. > Ve is SD to Ju and Ve is also 6th lord .Her > marital life is also indicated with disharmony.It is > expected that marriage should take place either > during the planets who are weak or by the planet of > 6th lord. > Ve is through 26 Feb 2010 and 28 Apr 2013.The > marriage is expected in its 3 rd sector running > through 08 Apr 2012 to 28 Apr 2013. > When we go more closer then Apr/May 2012 is > expected the probable time of marriage. > According to my concept, I may be wrong also, I > reject the denial but late marriage might be there. > The problem is that how to get the feed back ? > May Krushnaji spare some time to guide us . > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, > > When you say DBCE points, Which house you are > referring to ? > > Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. > > From traditional VA. Look at the chart from moon. > And > 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect of > shani. > Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari between > shani and mangal. > > How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? > > I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds someone > in > shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in guru-shukra > ? > 95-97 time frame ? > > Satish > > P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna should > be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and take > capri > lagna. > > If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in 8th > and > retro. How is overall health of the native ? > --- Ash <kas wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might > spoil > > the event or deny it or > > delay it very much in life. > > > > > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve is in > > nak of Sun, its distance > > to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects a > > luminiary. Ve is FK for > > marriage is very spoilt. > > > > > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth time > I > > haven't been able to > > check due to lack of time. But I just wanted to > > point this out to you that > > first things we must check the Karaks. That > > controls the status of house B. > > > > > > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising > order, > > which is not so with > > Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you all > > can figure out between > > yourselfs. > > > > > > > > Other good points u have written are influence of > > 6th lord etc are very nice > > and well covered. > > > > > > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u > should > > get more data and try > > to study it closely. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM > > > > Fwd: > > Marriage > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > Please look into this chart and find out the cause > > of non-marital issue till > > now. > > > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from > Cp > > to Sg. The Sagi > > asc.comes correct as per the co-incident. > > > > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. > > > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8 > > and 2/12 > > > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th > matter. > > > > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are > > influenced by 6th lord > > either through occupation, conjunction or by > > occupation in the navamsa of > > 6th lord. > > > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > > > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > > > > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by > Sa > > and Ju both. But this > > delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on > > Sa. But this moderation > > is inactive. > > > > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su but > this > > damage is controlled by > > the aspect of Ju on Ve. > > > > The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 when > the > > native was passing > > through Sa antara in Ju main. > > > > Me is fully eager to give the event during its > > antara period but the native > > did not get the fruit of the event. > > > > 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. Ju > > being LoD its aspect on > > house C is also benefic. > > > > Why the native could not marry till this time ? > > > > Can you members please give us the rason for non > > marital. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2007 Dear Ramesh, Any information on the native physical appearace will be benefiacial. 1. Tall compared to peers or family Or Short /Stout 2. With makar lagna. 3rd lord in 6th points to disputes with younger siblings. Can't say about mother. 4th lord is in 12th , moon with rahu with lahiri and with guru with kAS ayanash. 3. Can't say why shani-shani gave mother's death 4. talking late can be due to budh retro and in extreme conjuction( within minutes) of ketu and aspected by shani. Budh controls speech. When did the native start speaking ? Satish --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Dear Ash, Anup and all, > Here is few past events given by native.Can now > asc be fixed whether it is Cp or Saggi. > a.She is an asthma patient. > b.Started career in IT at the age of 23 yrs. > c.Had streneous relation with Mother and youngest > sister. > d.Mother died in Aug 2003 > e.Started talking very late. > Thanks and regard > Ramesh Mishra > > Ash <kas wrote: > > In the chart under discussion, I mentioned about > shukra dasha but realized that it is aspecting house > B. Can LoD and LoE give results even if they aspect > houses A,B, or C ? How eager is NK to give the > result > of house B ? > > Dear Satish, > > LoD and LoE are eager to give result. If they > aspect House A, B or C then they themselves OR their > SD’s can step in and give the result. LoD and LoE > are special. > > Karak’s control the status of House B. For timing > of event LoD and LoE are special and we are also > giving or add +5 points in the WS to separate them > from the other planets. > > LoD and LoE act based on their ownership, > irrespective of the points. So they are eager by > nature to deliver the timing of event. > > I hope it’s clear. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. > Click here to know how. ______________________________\ ____ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2007 Dear Satish, talking late can also be possible since 2nd house has 6th lord in it and a zero in 2nd house taking saggi lagna ? thanks/regards harjeet , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, > > Any information on the native physical appearace will > be benefiacial. > > 1. Tall compared to peers or family Or Short /Stout > 2. With makar lagna. 3rd lord in 6th points to > disputes with younger siblings. Can't say about > mother. 4th lord is in 12th , moon with rahu with > lahiri and with guru with kAS ayanash. > 3. Can't say why shani-shani gave mother's death > 4. talking late can be due to budh retro and in > extreme conjuction( within minutes) of ketu and > aspected by shani. Budh controls speech. When did the > native start speaking ? > > Satish > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 > wrote: > > > Dear Ash, Anup and all, > > Here is few past events given by native.Can now > > asc be fixed whether it is Cp or Saggi. > > a.She is an asthma patient. > > b.Started career in IT at the age of 23 yrs. > > c.Had streneous relation with Mother and youngest > > sister. > > d.Mother died in Aug 2003 > > e.Started talking very late. > > Thanks and regard > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Ash <kas wrote: > > > > In the chart under discussion, I mentioned about > > shukra dasha but realized that it is aspecting house > > B. Can LoD and LoE give results even if they aspect > > houses A,B, or C ? How eager is NK to give the > > result > > of house B ? > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > LoD and LoE are eager to give result. If they > > aspect House A, B or C then they themselves OR their > > SD's can step in and give the result. LoD and LoE > > are special. > > > > Karak's control the status of House B. For timing > > of event LoD and LoE are special and we are also > > giving or add +5 points in the WS to separate them > > from the other planets. > > > > LoD and LoE act based on their ownership, > > irrespective of the points. So they are eager by > > nature to deliver the timing of event. > > > > I hope it's clear. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. > > Click here to know how. > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. > http://get.games./proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2007 Dear Ramesh, may be a chance when jupiter enters saggi this nov end.. aspecting the 7th house and may be rectifying the flaw in chart further... mercury antra is going on... which has decent strength too .. its in 12th house i guess and having 5 points if i am not mistaken..? thanks/regards harjeet , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Ash,Anup, Harjeet, Satish and all, > Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. > Please look at rasi chart. Jup is in house B and he aspects Sa, LoA. Is it not delay caused by Ju. > FK is Sa who is weak in WS but NK Ve is strong in WS for 7th. This Ve is spoiled so both the karakas are spoiled and weak enough to deny the event. > The saving point I observed that Ju LoD though retrograted is in house B with strong 6 bindus thus helping the house D.Due to its retrogression its nature is enhanced.Ju antara will be eager to give the event but Ju antara starts very late in her life. > Ve is SD to Ju and Ve is also 6th lord .Her marital life is also indicated with disharmony.It is expected that marriage should take place either during the planets who are weak or by the planet of 6th lord. > Ve is through 26 Feb 2010 and 28 Apr 2013.The marriage is expected in its 3 rd sector running through 08 Apr 2012 to 28 Apr 2013. > When we go more closer then Apr/May 2012 is expected the probable time of marriage. > According to my concept, I may be wrong also, I reject the denial but late marriage might be there. > The problem is that how to get the feed back ? > May Krushnaji spare some time to guide us . > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, > > When you say DBCE points, Which house you are > referring to ? > > Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. > > From traditional VA. Look at the chart from moon. And > 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect of > shani. > Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari between > shani and mangal. > > How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? > > I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds someone in > shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in guru-shukra ? > 95-97 time frame ? > > Satish > > P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna should > be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and take capri > lagna. > > If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in 8th and > retro. How is overall health of the native ? > --- Ash <kas wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might spoil > > the event or deny it or > > delay it very much in life. > > > > > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve is in > > nak of Sun, its distance > > to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects a > > luminiary. Ve is FK for > > marriage is very spoilt. > > > > > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth time I > > haven't been able to > > check due to lack of time. But I just wanted to > > point this out to you that > > first things we must check the Karaks. That > > controls the status of house B. > > > > > > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising order, > > which is not so with > > Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you all > > can figure out between > > yourselfs. > > > > > > > > Other good points u have written are influence of > > 6th lord etc are very nice > > and well covered. > > > > > > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u should > > get more data and try > > to study it closely. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > _____ > > > > > > On > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM > > > > Fwd: > > Marriage > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > Please look into this chart and find out the cause > > of non-marital issue till > > now. > > > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc from Cp > > to Sg. The Sagi > > asc.comes correct as per the co-incident. > > > > What is seen in the chart is given hereunder. > > > > 1. The 7th lord from Lagna, Sun and Mo is 6/8, 6/8 > > and 2/12 > > > > 2. Su to Ve distance is > 43 > > > > 3.Ve is 6th lord and occupy house A for 7th matter. > > > > 4. All the significant houses viz. A,B and C are > > influenced by 6th lord > > either through occupation, conjunction or by > > occupation in the navamsa of > > 6th lord. > > > > 5. Su is aspected by Sa. > > > > 6. No blessings are present in the chart. > > > > 7.There is combined delay in the chart caused by Sa > > and Ju both. But this > > delay is also moderated due to the aspect of Ju on > > Sa. But this moderation > > is inactive. > > > > 8. Ve is spoiled due to its distace from Su but this > > damage is controlled by > > the aspect of Ju on Ve. > > > > The accumulated delay is over on 7 Dec 1990 when the > > native was passing > > through Sa antara in Ju main. > > > > Me is fully eager to give the event during its > > antara period but the native > > did not get the fruit of the event. > > > > 9. Two benefics are present in the 7th house. Ju > > being LoD its aspect on > > house C is also benefic. > > > > Why the native could not marry till this time ? > > > > Can you members please give us the rason for non > > marital. > > > > Thanks and regards. > > > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your > > inbox. Click > > > <http://in.rd./tagline_mail_4/*http:/help./l/in//mail > > /mail/tools/tools-08.html/> here. > > > > > > > > > > ________ > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search > http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz > > > > > > > Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage in your inbox. Click here for happy ending. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 29, 2007 Dear Anup, You might have found in archives that most of the timeGuru Shri Krushna ji repeatedily mentioned to check up the chart from lagna,Su and Mo.But he never mentioned about the strongest among these three lagnas. I assumed that he meant to choose the strongest among these three and consider the strongest lagna. So we should check up while analysing the chart. May be Ash may clear this doubt. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra --- " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > As you are saying see strength of > lagna, moon or sun in a natal chart and then we > sld consider lagna as strogest factor.Cant we > access this applying KAS rules and then proceed > for an event? > This may be a clash of rules itself if we go from > BAV to summary chart and D-charts. > Hope you will understand what i want to say. > For example,an event may be feasible from Moon > chart and not in lagna or taking sun as lagna. > > > > Regards > Anup > > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 > wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > Procedure might be look which is strongest > > amongst Lagna, Su and Mo and check from > > there.See if Mo is the strongest planet amongst > > Lagna and Su then we may check the event taking > > Mo as lagna. > > We have to pay special attention while doing > > so. > > I do not know what Satish may be thinking. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > Ash <kas wrote: > > Dear Satish, > > > > I have a question. Under what circumstance > > will you check from Moon instead of Lagna or > > Sun. > > > > There are things like Blessings, lagna and > > 7th and also from mo and sun and their 7th etc > > we are checking also for say intelligence we do > > check lagna su and mo in which dreshkon, > > trishansa and navamsa they fall in. > > > > For timing of event, In one or two cases, I > > have seen Krushanji asking me to check from > > Moon as well but that was particularly in case > > of Death. > > > > So I am curious to know if you follow any > > fixed procedure for that i.e to select the > > timing from Lagna, Sun or Moon or what > > procedure do u follow or if u have come across > > this in particular VA texts, you can write a > > bit on that. It will be good learning. > > > > Can you please write a bit more on that. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of SPK > > Tuesday August 28, 2007 3:16 PM > > > > RE: Fwd: > > Marriage > > > > > > Dear Ash,Ramesh, Anup, > > > > When you say DBCE points, Which house you are > > referring to ? > > > > Is there a Ju delay ? I do not see it. > > > > From traditional VA. Look at the chart from > > moon. And > > 7th from moon is spoilt. Sun, Ketu and aspect > > of > > shani. > > Shukra is spoiled as being in papakartari > > between > > shani and mangal. > > > > How do you get Shukra as FK for this chart ? > > > > I wouldn't be suprised if the native finds > > someone in > > shani -shukra dasha. What transpired in > > guru-shukra ? > > 95-97 time frame ? > > > > Satish > > > > P.S. Do not have enough data to say the lagna > > should > > be sagi or capri. I go by what is given and > > take capri > > lagna. > > > > If it is sagi lagna it will put lagna lord in > > 8th and > > retro. How is overall health of the native ? > > --- Ash <kas wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh and Anup, > > > > > > > > > > > > When the Karak is very spoilt then that might > > spoil > > > the event or deny it or > > > delay it very much in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here just check the status of Venus. Also Ve > > is in > > > nak of Sun, its distance > > > to Sun is 45 and Ve is with Sa and Sa aspects > > a > > > luminiary. Ve is FK for > > > marriage is very spoilt. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other things regarding the validity of birth > > time I > > > haven't been able to > > > check due to lack of time. But I just wanted > > to > > > point this out to you that > > > first things we must check the Karaks. That > > > controls the status of house B. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also as per Cap her DBCE points are in rising > > order, > > > which is not so with > > > Sag. So also confirm that. Other things you > > all > > > can figure out between > > > yourselfs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Other good points u have written are > > influence of > > > 6th lord etc are very nice > > > and well covered. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to do a full rectification then u > > should > > > get more data and try > > > to study it closely. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> > > http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On > > > Behalf Of ramesh mishra > > > Tuesday August 28, 2007 11:49 AM > > > > > > Fwd: > > > Marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > Please look into this chart and find out the > > cause > > > of non-marital issue till > > > now. > > > > > > As Anup amended the TOB and changed the Asc > > from Cp > > > to Sg. The Sagi > === message truncated === Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. 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