Guest guest Report post Posted March 27, 2006 --harinder ji namskar..! aap marriage mein late ho gaye hein .aap kuch upaey kare and reply de....upaey... 1) 8kg. charri ( white jawar ) mandir mein de...2) aap per koi case bhee para hoga...aap ki sirrion ke niche aag lagne wala samaan rakha hein and roof per kachcha caol perra hein nikale....! reply back.... regards astrologer verma (lal kitab expert)panchkula cell 9815009302 - In lalkitab , " harinder232002 " <harinder232002 wrote: > > My dob 23-2-71, Pob- Pinjore, District - Ambala, Tob- 2.00am > > yet unmarried, any perdiction and remedies if any required for > marriage. > Thanks. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 28, 2006 --- ane kul purohit kob cow dhaan kervaey.. regards astrologer verma 09815009302 In lalkitab , " harinder232002 " <harinder232002 wrote: > > not married yet, could you predict and advise remedies if required, > regarding marriage. > Thanks. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 20, 2006 Dear Abhay, The native is running Rahu/Mars/Venus.i.e.the last bhukti in rahu MD. As whole Rahu MD has not fruitified the event,the last bhukti will also not fruitify the event. The event will fruityfy in next i.e.Jupiter MD,if horo shows so. More detailed reading will be posted soon. Regards, Milind Kulkarni. , " Abhay Godse " <abhaygodse wrote: > > Hello to ALL Group Members > > 18/09/1973, > 11:10 AM > Parel/Mumbai > > This boy is running Rahu Mahadasha => Mars Antara & Venus Vidasha > right now........ > Mars is in 6th House & it's star lord is Venus. Mars signifies > 6,1,7,12 houses. Question is regarding marriage. I think.......inspite > he is running Mars Anatara which signifies 6,1,12 houses.....he will > get married in this antara only. > > Prediction: He will get married or will at least get engaged in Mars > Antara & Venus vidasha............... & it will be an Love marriage (or > sort of love marriage) because of Mars & Venus........ > > Does anybody have any different comments on it? (if yes, give the > reasoning also) Secondly, whenever i took the ruling planets so far, > Mars was there. > > Regards > > Abhay > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 20, 2006 Dear Mr. Ramanathan Thanks for analysis !!!!! I will study it once again & will get back to the group if i have some queries on the analysis. Ravi will be in Mrugashirsha (venus sign & mars nakshatra) during 7 to 14th June 2006 Ravi will be in Bharani (mars sign & venus nakshatra) during 27the April to 10th May 2006 Regards Abhay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 20, 2006 Dear Mr. Raichur & Mr. Milind Kulkarni One more point................ Rahu is in 2nd house, strongly signifies 2nd, still, why marriage has not happended in Rahu MD? Secondly, Jup. strongly signifies 3,10 alongwith 2,5 So, when Rahu is more stong significator of 2nd house than Jup. then, how & why marriage will not take place in Rahu MD as per your analysis? & why & how it will take place in Jup. MD? Kindly explain this. Regards Abhay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 21, 2006 Dear Mr. Raichur & Mr. Milind Kulkarni Pls. also get back to me regarding my yesterday's mail about Ruling planets. Regards Abhay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2006 hi dear abhay godse, The date of birth, time and place of Shri Pramod Mahajan, indicated in " Maharashtracha Kundali Sangrah " is 30th October 1948 at 22-32 hours at Hyderabad, but some astrologers had some different time as 21-30 hours at Mehboobnagar, Hyderabad and the date is same 30th October 1948. I had solved his horoscope. The sublord of first house, ascendant, is Mercury and Mercury is in Mars nakshatra, and Mars is in Jupiter Sub, and sub sub is Moon, all this indicates that, Mercury being lord of 1st house, is in lord of 6th house, and jupiter is badhakesh and markesh being sublord of mercury, and moon is also markesh. As mars is the nakshatra of ascendant sublord, the event of accidental injuries in life has occurred. My prediction is that his health will be critical till 27-4-2006, and as present transit of dashas is Saturn/Jupiter/Jupiter/Jupiter (these are lords of 8th and 7th house), so dashas are also not that much favouring. Saturn is also the lord of 9th house, which is taken as giving life, so if any development in his health will take from 28th april, it will go slowly slowly improving,but it will take a very much long time. With best wishes, Ajay Pandav 9422202500 --- Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > Dear Members > > Can any EXPERIENCED group member.....throw light on > the following 2 > points........?? > > 18/09/1973 > 11:10 > Parel, Mumbai > > 1) Rahu is in 2nd house, strongly signifies 2nd, > still, why marriage > will not happen in Rahu MD? Last Mars bhukti is > gogin on in Rahu MD. > Secondly, Jup. strongly signifies 3,10 alongwith 2,5 > So, when Rahu is > more stong significator of 2nd house than Jup. then, > how & why marriage > will not take place in Rahu MD as per the analysis > give by Mr. Raichur & > Mr. Milind Kulkarni? & why & how it will take place > in Jup. MD? > > 2) Jup. is retro. now......if Jup. comes in ruling, > Rahu will also > should be considered.....If we discard Jup. because > it's retro. then, > should we also discard Rahu alongwith Jup.? > > Is anybody having answers to these queries......?? > > Regards > > Abhay > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Jagdish, How can astrology show a person will marry when he does not marry ? Cheers !!! Ash , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Respected Sir Ash > > Just an idea came in my mind. > > Suppose a person knows (with the help of astrology) that he is going to marry within a year. Now he decides that whatever offers come he will not marry. > > Then what will happen ? .....................(Sounds i have gone crazy.) > > I was just wondering and trying to see points-to-points details of effects of planets on us. > > If an AD is showing marriage then native might get offers of marriage (considering the native is Indian). But whether to marry or not to marry is completey dependent on the person. If the person is adamant not to marry in that particular AD, then will the AD change his mind ? Or the AD will go without marrying the native ? > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2006 Respected Sir Ash You got me. You got me absolutely right. We are on the same page here. So we can go ahead. Lets assume astrology is showing that the native is going to marry. Native decides that he wants to negate the prediction or he wants to prove it wrong or he wants to check the effects of planets on himself because of " denial of marriage by himself " . Then in this case, what will happen ? Best Wishes Jagdish ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Jagdish, How can astrology show a person will marry when he does not marry ? Cheers !!! Ash , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Respected Sir Ash > > Just an idea came in my mind. > > Suppose a person knows (with the help of astrology) that he is going to marry within a year. Now he decides that whatever offers come he will not marry. > > Then what will happen ? .....................(Sounds i have gone crazy.) > > I was just wondering and trying to see points-to-points details of effects of planets on us. > > If an AD is showing marriage then native might get offers of marriage (considering the native is Indian). But whether to marry or not to marry is completey dependent on the person. If the person is adamant not to marry in that particular AD, then will the AD change his mind ? Or the AD will go without marrying the native ? > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2006 Sorry to interfere Jagdish, I myself believe that there is a fate and that's why we are doing astrology here, right?, and that fate works. If an event has to take place, who can stop it, but at the same time there is the 10th house of karma. So, karma must be having a role to play. Krushna ji one day was explaining that how karma and bhagya (10th house and 9th house) are having a 2:12 relationship, so naturally to overcome bhagya, if we take the path of karma, it's not going to be easy, but then there is this karma house...right? now, coming to your question specifically, Krushna ji says planetpry effects can be overcome by man's efforts. In some old post I have read him saying that especially the destructive steps can be taken by man. In that particular post (dont have the message number now), he mentions that even if the chart shows child, but not to have it by man made meausres is in man's hand. --Manoshi , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Respected Sir Ash > > You got me. You got me absolutely right. We are on the same page here. So we can go ahead. > > Lets assume astrology is showing that the native is going to marry. Native decides that he wants to negate the prediction or he wants to prove it wrong or he wants to check the effects of planets on himself because of " denial of marriage by himself " . > > Then in this case, what will happen ? > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Jagdish, > How can astrology show a person will marry when he does not marry ? > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Prathamesn Chawan > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sir Ash > > > > Just an idea came in my mind. > > > > Suppose a person knows (with the help of astrology) that he is > going to marry within a year. Now he decides that whatever offers > come he will not marry. > > > > Then what will happen ? .....................(Sounds i have gone > crazy.) > > > > I was just wondering and trying to see points-to-points details > of effects of planets on us. > > > > If an AD is showing marriage then native might get offers of > marriage (considering the native is Indian). But whether to marry or > not to marry is completey dependent on the person. If the person is > adamant not to marry in that particular AD, then will the AD change > his mind ? Or the AD will go without marrying the native ? > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for > just 2?/min with Messenger with Voice. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Manoshi Ji You are most welcome to join the conversation. It is indeed true that " destructive " effects are easier to take than " constructive " . But their are still many things. And as we are progressing, science is showing very different things. Once i read an article on an " Infamous Sperm Bank. " This sperm bank has sperm of highly known scientist like Einstein, Heizenberg, James Chadwik etc. I dont know if this bank is still in operation or has been terminated. But lets assume a woman takes the sperm of Einstein and makes herself pregnant. Now how it will be shown in the horoscope of Einstein ? He is capable of giving babies even after some 60 years of his death. Can we say astrology is being failed here ? If we consider " Astrology " as a superb computer program. A computer program that can tell anything about future. And we feed the Einstein birth data to this program and tells it that Einstein is going to have baby after 60 years. Then do you think that the program will crash ? Best Wishes Jagdish Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: Sorry to interfere Jagdish, I myself believe that there is a fate and that's why we are doing astrology here, right?, and that fate works. If an event has to take place, who can stop it, but at the same time there is the 10th house of karma. So, karma must be having a role to play. Krushna ji one day was explaining that how karma and bhagya (10th house and 9th house) are having a 2:12 relationship, so naturally to overcome bhagya, if we take the path of karma, it's not going to be easy, but then there is this karma house...right? now, coming to your question specifically, Krushna ji says planetpry effects can be overcome by man's efforts. In some old post I have read him saying that especially the destructive steps can be taken by man. In that particular post (dont have the message number now), he mentions that even if the chart shows child, but not to have it by man made meausres is in man's hand. --Manoshi , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Respected Sir Ash > > You got me. You got me absolutely right. We are on the same page here. So we can go ahead. > > Lets assume astrology is showing that the native is going to marry. Native decides that he wants to negate the prediction or he wants to prove it wrong or he wants to check the effects of planets on himself because of " denial of marriage by himself " . > > Then in this case, what will happen ? > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Jagdish, > How can astrology show a person will marry when he does not marry ? > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , Prathamesn Chawan > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sir Ash > > > > Just an idea came in my mind. > > > > Suppose a person knows (with the help of astrology) that he is > going to marry within a year. Now he decides that whatever offers > come he will not marry. > > > > Then what will happen ? .....................(Sounds i have gone > crazy.) > > > > I was just wondering and trying to see points-to-points details > of effects of planets on us. > > > > If an AD is showing marriage then native might get offers of > marriage (considering the native is Indian). But whether to marry or > not to marry is completey dependent on the person. If the person is > adamant not to marry in that particular AD, then will the AD change > his mind ? Or the AD will go without marrying the native ? > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for > just 2?/min with Messenger with Voice. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 26, 2006 Dear Jagdish, For natural birth Karak is 12th house. House A for 5th as B. That says a lot. Why dont u take some proper charts. All these discussion are hypothetical. Lets get real here and solve some concrete charts and practice KAS. I hope that your curiosity gets solved in due course of time. Lets get back to KAS please. Cheers !!! Ash , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Dear Manoshi Ji > > You are most welcome to join the conversation. > > It is indeed true that " destructive " effects are easier to take than " constructive " . But their are still many things. > > And as we are progressing, science is showing very different things. Once i read an article on an " Infamous Sperm Bank. " This sperm bank has sperm of highly known scientist like Einstein, Heizenberg, James Chadwik etc. > > I dont know if this bank is still in operation or has been terminated. But lets assume a woman takes the sperm of Einstein and makes herself pregnant. > > Now how it will be shown in the horoscope of Einstein ? He is capable of giving babies even after some 60 years of his death. > > Can we say astrology is being failed here ? > > If we consider " Astrology " as a superb computer program. A computer program that can tell anything about future. And we feed the Einstein birth data to this program and tells it that Einstein is going to have baby after 60 years. Then do you think that the program will crash ? > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > Manoshi Chatterjee <khallopapa wrote: > Sorry to interfere Jagdish, > > I myself believe that there is a fate and that's why we are doing > astrology here, right?, and that fate works. If an event has to take > place, who can stop it, but at the same time there is the 10th house > of karma. So, karma must be having a role to play. Krushna ji one > day was explaining that how karma and bhagya (10th house and 9th > house) are having a 2:12 relationship, so naturally to overcome > bhagya, if we take the path of karma, it's not going to be easy, but > then there is this karma house...right? now, coming to your question > specifically, Krushna ji says planetpry effects can be overcome by > man's efforts. In some old post I have read him saying that > especially the destructive steps can be taken by man. In that > particular post (dont have the message number now), he mentions that > even if the chart shows child, but not to have it by man made > meausres is in man's hand. > > --Manoshi > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > Respected Sir Ash > > > > You got me. You got me absolutely right. We are on the same page > here. So we can go ahead. > > > > Lets assume astrology is showing that the native is going to > marry. Native decides that he wants to negate the prediction or he > wants to prove it wrong or he wants to check the effects of planets > on himself because of " denial of marriage by himself " . > > > > Then in this case, what will happen ? > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Jagdish > > ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > Dear Jagdish, > > How can astrology show a person will marry when he does not marry ? > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sir Ash > > > > > > Just an idea came in my mind. > > > > > > Suppose a person knows (with the help of astrology) that he is > > going to marry within a year. Now he decides that whatever offers > > come he will not marry. > > > > > > Then what will happen ? .....................(Sounds i have > gone > > crazy.) > > > > > > I was just wondering and trying to see points-to-points > details > > of effects of planets on us. > > > > > > If an AD is showing marriage then native might get offers of > > marriage (considering the native is Indian). But whether to marry > or > > not to marry is completey dependent on the person. If the person > is > > adamant not to marry in that particular AD, then will the AD > change > > his mind ? Or the AD will go without marrying the native ? > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries > for > > just 2?/min with Messenger with Voice. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 28, 2006 Dear Sri Raichurji, Where can I get the details of 4 step method developed by sri Gondhalekar as mentioned by you, as I would like to read and learn it. Regards Naidu KP Jiyo cricket on India cricket Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 29, 2006 Dear Sir, This is my chart.I was reading four step theory and I found that for me, the 7th house sub-lord is mercury which is in dual sign. 7th sublord- Mercury [3,6,9,10] starlord- Sun[5,10] sublord -Sun[5,10] star of sublord - Sun[5,10] There is no mention of 2,7,11 houses for this theory.So does this mean that there wont be any marriges for me. Thanks Amit Birth Data ---- 20 Jan 1983 12.20 PM 76.49 E,26.29 N (Gangapur City,Rajasthan) HANSKPVEDIC (AT) (DOT) COM PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL SUN. 10 6 7 9 Sat Sun Mer Mar :ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah MOON 12 13 4 48 Jup Sat Rah Rah :2nd 2 14 11 31 Ven Moo Jup Sat MARS 11 8 37 39 Sat Rah Rah Mar :3rd 3 8 47 35 Mer Rah Jup Jup MERC-R 9 26 48 43 Jup Sun Sun Rah :4th 4 2 51 39 Moo Jup Rah Ven JUP. 8 11 10 39 Mar Sat Moo Rah :5th 5 0 16 2 Sun Ket Ket Moo VEN. 10 24 40 51 Sat Mar Rah Sat :6th 6 4 26 38 Mer Sun Sat Mar SAT. 7 10 26 21 Ven Rah Jup Rah :7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat RAHU 3 9 18 32 Mer Rah Jup Mer :8th 8 14 11 31 Mar Sat Rah Ven KETU 9 9 18 32 Jup Ket Jup Rah :9th 9 8 47 35 Jup Ket Jup Sun URAN 8 14 21 41 Mar Sat Rah Ven :10th 10 2 51 39 Sat Sun Jup Rah NEPT 9 4 25 4 Jup Ket Moo Mer :11th 11 0 16 2 Sat Mar Mer Mer FOR. 3 21 22 21 Mer Jup Jup Moo :12th 12 4 26 38 Jup Sat Sat Sun PLUT 7 5 57 30 Ven Mar Moo Jup PROGRAMME BY RAICHURS OF GHATKOPAR CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For retrogression,Deg Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no planets in them are not printed.. *-*-* | * * * * | | * * * * | | * * * Mo 12 * | |3rd 3 * 2nd 2 * * 12t 12 * | | Ra 3 Fo 3 * * Asc 1 * * | | * * | | * * * * Ma 11| | * * * * 11t 11| | * * * * | | * * * * | | * 4th 4 * * * | * * * | * * * Ve 10 Su 10 * | | * * * 10t 10 * | | * * * * | |5th 5 * * * * | | * * * * | | * * | | * * Ju 8 * * Me 9 Ke 9| | * 6th 6 * 7th 7 * 8th 8 * 9th 9| | * Pl 7 * * Ur 8 * | | * Sa 7 * * Ne 9 * | | * * * * | *-*-* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 29, 2006 Dear Amit, I dont know about four stap theory but as per KP MER is sublord of 7 and 11th. No planet in the star of MER so MER is strong significatore of 7 and 11.so marrriage is promise. regards kanak ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: Dear Sir, This is my chart.I was reading four step theory and I found that for me, the 7th house sub-lord is mercury which is in dual sign. 7th sublord- Mercury [3,6,9,10] starlord- Sun[5,10] sublord -Sun[5,10] star of sublord - Sun[5,10] There is no mention of 2,7,11 houses for this theory.So does this mean that there wont be any marriges for me. Thanks Amit Birth Data ---- 20 Jan 1983 12.20 PM 76.49 E,26.29 N (Gangapur City,Rajasthan) HANSKPVEDIC (AT) (DOT) COM PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL SUN. 10 6 7 9 Sat Sun Mer Mar :ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah MOON 12 13 4 48 Jup Sat Rah Rah :2nd 2 14 11 31 Ven Moo Jup Sat MARS 11 8 37 39 Sat Rah Rah Mar :3rd 3 8 47 35 Mer Rah Jup Jup MERC-R 9 26 48 43 Jup Sun Sun Rah :4th 4 2 51 39 Moo Jup Rah Ven JUP. 8 11 10 39 Mar Sat Moo Rah :5th 5 0 16 2 Sun Ket Ket Moo VEN. 10 24 40 51 Sat Mar Rah Sat :6th 6 4 26 38 Mer Sun Sat Mar SAT. 7 10 26 21 Ven Rah Jup Rah :7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat RAHU 3 9 18 32 Mer Rah Jup Mer :8th 8 14 11 31 Mar Sat Rah Ven KETU 9 9 18 32 Jup Ket Jup Rah :9th 9 8 47 35 Jup Ket Jup Sun URAN 8 14 21 41 Mar Sat Rah Ven :10th 10 2 51 39 Sat Sun Jup Rah NEPT 9 4 25 4 Jup Ket Moo Mer :11th 11 0 16 2 Sat Mar Mer Mer FOR. 3 21 22 21 Mer Jup Jup Moo :12th 12 4 26 38 Jup Sat Sat Sun PLUT 7 5 57 30 Ven Mar Moo Jup PROGRAMME BY RAICHURS OF GHATKOPAR CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For retrogression,Deg Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no planets in them are not printed.. *-*-* | * * * * | | * * * * | | * * * Mo 12 * | |3rd 3 * 2nd 2 * * 12t 12 * | | Ra 3 Fo 3 * * Asc 1 * * | | * * | | * * * * Ma 11| | * * * * 11t 11| | * * * * | | * * * * | | * 4th 4 * * * | * * * | * * * Ve 10 Su 10 * | | * * * 10t 10 * | | * * * * | |5th 5 * * * * | | * * * * | | * * | | * * Ju 8 * * Me 9 Ke 9| | * 6th 6 * 7th 7 * 8th 8 * 9th 9| | * Pl 7 * * Ur 8 * | | * Sa 7 * * Ne 9 * | | * * * * | *-*-* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Dear ak_131 No. Since the 7th s/l/ is a significator of 5th, the house of love, and children, it does not mean " no marriage " . In fact besides 2,7,11 one considers 8, and 5 also for marriage. good luck ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: Dear Sir, This is my chart.I was reading four step theory and I found that for me, the 7th house sub-lord is mercury which is in dual sign. 7th sublord- Mercury [3,6,9,10] starlord- Sun[5,10] sublord -Sun[5,10] star of sublord - Sun[5,10] There is no mention of 2,7,11 houses for this theory.So does this mean that there wont be any marriges for me. Thanks Amit Birth Data ---- 20 Jan 1983 12.20 PM 76.49 E,26.29 N (Gangapur City,Rajasthan) HANSKPVEDIC (AT) (DOT) COM PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL SUN. 10 6 7 9 Sat Sun Mer Mar :ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah MOON 12 13 4 48 Jup Sat Rah Rah :2nd 2 14 11 31 Ven Moo Jup Sat MARS 11 8 37 39 Sat Rah Rah Mar :3rd 3 8 47 35 Mer Rah Jup Jup MERC-R 9 26 48 43 Jup Sun Sun Rah :4th 4 2 51 39 Moo Jup Rah Ven JUP. 8 11 10 39 Mar Sat Moo Rah :5th 5 0 16 2 Sun Ket Ket Moo VEN. 10 24 40 51 Sat Mar Rah Sat :6th 6 4 26 38 Mer Sun Sat Mar SAT. 7 10 26 21 Ven Rah Jup Rah :7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat RAHU 3 9 18 32 Mer Rah Jup Mer :8th 8 14 11 31 Mar Sat Rah Ven KETU 9 9 18 32 Jup Ket Jup Rah :9th 9 8 47 35 Jup Ket Jup Sun URAN 8 14 21 41 Mar Sat Rah Ven :10th 10 2 51 39 Sat Sun Jup Rah NEPT 9 4 25 4 Jup Ket Moo Mer :11th 11 0 16 2 Sat Mar Mer Mer FOR. 3 21 22 21 Mer Jup Jup Moo :12th 12 4 26 38 Jup Sat Sat Sun PLUT 7 5 57 30 Ven Mar Moo Jup PROGRAMME BY RAICHURS OF GHATKOPAR CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For retrogression,Deg Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no planets in them are not printed.. *-*-* | * * * * | | * * * * | | * * * Mo 12 * | |3rd 3 * 2nd 2 * * 12t 12 * | | Ra 3 Fo 3 * * Asc 1 * * | | * * | | * * * * Ma 11| | * * * * 11t 11| | * * * * | | * * * * | | * 4th 4 * * * | * * * | * * * Ve 10 Su 10 * | | * * * 10t 10 * | | * * * * | |5th 5 * * * * | | * * * * | | * * | | * * Ju 8 * * Me 9 Ke 9| | * 6th 6 * 7th 7 * 8th 8 * 9th 9| | * Pl 7 * * Ur 8 * | | * Sa 7 * * Ne 9 * | | * * * * | *-*-* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Kanka Bosnia I dis agree. 7th sublord is Merc. He cannot be significator of 7th or 11th. No planets in his stars, so he will signify the house where he resides, not 7th. He is strong significator of 9th and weak significatro of 3,6. No connection to 7th or 11th. There are 12 houses, only 9 planets, so the sub-lord will be common for more than one house, and we cannot say that the planet common to two houses signifies those houses. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Amit, I dont know about four stap theory but as per KP MER is sublord of 7 and 11th. No planet in the star of MER so MER is strong significatore of 7 and 11.so marrriage is promise. regards kanak ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: Dear Sir, This is my chart.I was reading four step theory and I found that for me, the 7th house sub-lord is mercury which is in dual sign. 7th sublord- Mercury [3,6,9,10] starlord- Sun[5,10] sublord -Sun[5,10] star of sublord - Sun[5,10] There is no mention of 2,7,11 houses for this theory.So does this mean that there wont be any marriges for me. Thanks Amit Birth Data ---- 20 Jan 1983 12.20 PM 76.49 E,26.29 N (Gangapur City,Rajasthan) HANSKPVEDIC (AT) (DOT) COM PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL SUN. 10 6 7 9 Sat Sun Mer Mar :ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah MOON 12 13 4 48 Jup Sat Rah Rah :2nd 2 14 11 31 Ven Moo Jup Sat MARS 11 8 37 39 Sat Rah Rah Mar :3rd 3 8 47 35 Mer Rah Jup Jup MERC-R 9 26 48 43 Jup Sun Sun Rah :4th 4 2 51 39 Moo Jup Rah Ven JUP. 8 11 10 39 Mar Sat Moo Rah :5th 5 0 16 2 Sun Ket Ket Moo VEN. 10 24 40 51 Sat Mar Rah Sat :6th 6 4 26 38 Mer Sun Sat Mar SAT. 7 10 26 21 Ven Rah Jup Rah :7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat RAHU 3 9 18 32 Mer Rah Jup Mer :8th 8 14 11 31 Mar Sat Rah Ven KETU 9 9 18 32 Jup Ket Jup Rah :9th 9 8 47 35 Jup Ket Jup Sun URAN 8 14 21 41 Mar Sat Rah Ven :10th 10 2 51 39 Sat Sun Jup Rah NEPT 9 4 25 4 Jup Ket Moo Mer :11th 11 0 16 2 Sat Mar Mer Mer FOR. 3 21 22 21 Mer Jup Jup Moo :12th 12 4 26 38 Jup Sat Sat Sun PLUT 7 5 57 30 Ven Mar Moo Jup PROGRAMME BY RAICHURS OF GHATKOPAR CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For retrogression,Deg Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no planets in them are not printed.. *-*-* | * * * * | | * * * * | | * * * Mo 12 * | |3rd 3 * 2nd 2 * * 12t 12 * | | Ra 3 Fo 3 * * Asc 1 * * | | * * | | * * * * Ma 11| | * * * * 11t 11| | * * * * | | * * * * | | * 4th 4 * * * | * * * | * * * Ve 10 Su 10 * | | * * * 10t 10 * | | * * * * | |5th 5 * * * * | | * * * * | | * * | | * * Ju 8 * * Me 9 Ke 9| | * 6th 6 * 7th 7 * 8th 8 * 9th 9| | * Pl 7 * * Ur 8 * | | * Sa 7 * * Ne 9 * | | * * * * | *-*-* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 30, 2006 Dear Raichur ji Sometimes......i have observed, " When a planet is a Sub lord of any house but......even if he is not signifying the house (no karyesh of that house), the planet give the result of that house in it's MD or AD " . For example, 10th SL is Mer. but....Mer. doesn't signify (no karyesh)10th house, still, in Mer. MD or AD , it will give result of 10th house like change in job etc. You have mentioned about 4step theory by Mr. Gondhalekar. Is the marriage period of this boy is coming in Jup. MD by this 4step theory? 18/09/1973, 11:10, mumbai anant raichur wrote: > Kanka Bosnia > I dis agree. 7th sublord is Merc. He cannot be significator of 7th > or 11th. > > No planets in his stars, so he will signify the house where he > resides, not 7th. > He is strong significator of 9th and weak significatro of 3,6. No > connection to 7th or > 11th. > There are 12 houses, only 9 planets, so the sub-lord will be common > for more than one house, and we cannot say that the planet common to > two houses signifies those houses. > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Amit, > > I dont know about four stap theory but as per KP MER is sublord of 7 > and 11th. No planet in the star of MER so MER is strong significatore > of 7 and 11.so marrriage is promise. > > regards > kanak > > ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: > Dear Sir, > This is my chart.I was reading four step theory and I found > that for me, the 7th house sub-lord is mercury which is in dual sign. > > 7th sublord- Mercury [3,6,9,10] > starlord- Sun[5,10] > sublord -Sun[5,10] > star of sublord - Sun[5,10] > > There is no mention of 2,7,11 houses for this theory.So does this mean > > that there wont be any marriges for me. > Thanks > Amit > Birth Data ---- > 20 Jan 1983 > 12.20 PM > 76.49 E,26.29 N (Gangapur City,Rajasthan) > > > HANSKPVEDIC (AT) (DOT) COM > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL > > SUN. 10 6 7 9 Sat Sun Mer Mar :ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > MOON 12 13 4 48 Jup Sat Rah Rah :2nd 2 14 11 31 Ven Moo Jup Sat > > MARS 11 8 37 39 Sat Rah Rah Mar :3rd 3 8 47 35 Mer Rah Jup Jup > > MERC-R 9 26 48 43 Jup Sun Sun Rah :4th 4 2 51 39 Moo Jup Rah Ven > > JUP. 8 11 10 39 Mar Sat Moo Rah :5th 5 0 16 2 Sun Ket Ket Moo > > VEN. 10 24 40 51 Sat Mar Rah Sat :6th 6 4 26 38 Mer Sun Sat Mar > > SAT. 7 10 26 21 Ven Rah Jup Rah :7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat > > RAHU 3 9 18 32 Mer Rah Jup Mer :8th 8 14 11 31 Mar Sat Rah Ven > > KETU 9 9 18 32 Jup Ket Jup Rah :9th 9 8 47 35 Jup Ket Jup Sun > > URAN 8 14 21 41 Mar Sat Rah Ven :10th 10 2 51 39 Sat Sun Jup Rah > > NEPT 9 4 25 4 Jup Ket Moo Mer :11th 11 0 16 2 Sat Mar Mer Mer > > FOR. 3 21 22 21 Mer Jup Jup Moo :12th 12 4 26 38 Jup Sat Sat Sun > > PLUT 7 5 57 30 Ven Mar Moo Jup > PROGRAMME BY RAICHURS OF GHATKOPAR > CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. > Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For > retrogression,Deg > Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no > planets > in them are not printed.. > > > * > *-* > | * * * > * | > | * * * > * | > | * * * Mo 12 * > > | > |3rd 3 * 2nd 2 * * 12t 12 * > | > | Ra 3 Fo 3 * * Asc 1 * * > | > | * * > | > | * * * * > Ma 11| > | * * * * > 11t 11| > | * * * * > > | > | * * * > * | > | * 4th 4 * * > * | > * * > * > | * * * Ve 10 Su 10 > * | > | * * * 10t 10 > * | > | * * * * > > | > |5th 5 * * * * > | > | * * * * > | > | * * > | > | * * Ju 8 * * Me > 9 Ke 9| > | * 6th 6 * 7th 7 * 8th 8 * > 9th 9| > | * Pl 7 * * Ur 8 * > > | > | * Sa 7 * * Ne 9 > * | > | * * * > * | > > *------- > --------------------------*-* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 3, 2006 Dear Aryan Your fixing houses is not correct Father of querrent 9th. Elder sister 11th from 9th= 7; @nd child of this person is 7th from this house=1st. So you decide as though the chart cast is of the person , i.e. 2nd daughter of elder sister of the father. What is the sublord of the 7th cusp? Find out if he is significator of 2,5,7 or 11. Then marriage is indicated. Next list the signigicators of 2nd,7th, and 11th house. Select from amongst these the strongest ones. A planet whose sub-lord indicates the other houses, is strong one to be selcted. If for example, MOON is signigicator of 2nd then if it is in Sub of say Merc, which is significtor of 7 or 11, choose it, BUT if the sub of Moon is significator of 6,1,10 then DO not select it. Having thus selected the planets which signify 2,7,11, then only CHECK RPs. and select the planets common to the above list and RPS. These will indicate the Dasa/Bhikti?antara Lords. This you have to select by common sense/judgement good luck 7th sublord is Moon: aryan aryan <aryan_concept wrote: respected gurus i am very new to the k.p concepts and this is my first posting in the forum. i am trying to learn k.p astrology but many a times get confused. today one of my friend asked me about his cousin sister`s(father`s immediate elder sister`s second child) marriage? he gave me number 237 and i calculated tihs number at 23:04 long-79:25:w lat- 43:40:n here is my analysis (according to my limited knowledge) father - 9 house immidiate elder - 11 house 2 child - 1 house marrige - 7 house 7csl - moon moon in- rahu star- rahu sub moon gives 1,3,6,10,11,12 and rahu gives 1,5,10,11,12 rahu is the decidinfg factor but it doesn`t negate the matter completely so i think the marriage will take place but the presence of 6 and 12 house confirms that marriage is going to be very late. now the question arrises when for that i took the ruling planet at the same lattitude r.p were -moon -mar -merc -merc -rahu she is running in rahu dasha and rahu is common so it`s confirmed that rahu dasha will give the marriage but which antra is the question? so the next antra which i get is of jupand than sat but they are not in the ruling planet so i think the next antra which is of mercury (also a ruling planet) will materialise the marriage in 2013. i want all guru ji to give there opinion on my fist number calculation. thanks tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Amit, You are absolutely right regarding 1st & 7th. What I would like to mention is those are not KP cusps except 1st & 7th by taking 14 28 16 for all cusps. 7th 7 14:28:15 Ve Ra Ke Ke (as per KPAstro 2.1) Regards, tw , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk wrote: > > Dear Sir, > In KP also , we have 1st cusp 180 degree opposite to 1st cusp... > so if 1st cusp is at 14.28 degrees then 7th cusp is also at 14.28 > libra .. and at 14.26 degrees, cuspal lord changes in libra(from > mercury to ketu) .. > Thanks > Amit > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > Do you refer the following > > > > 7th 7 14 28 16.03 Ven Rah Ket Ket (by Jagannatha Hora) > > > > which is not KP 7th cusp by the Placidus house system? > > > > > > If not so, which 7 th cusp position of longitudes you are talking? > > > > It may not be a difference in the SBL of 7th in your case. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > For 7th ,sublord changes to Ketu at the other calculation.. > > > Thanks > > > Amit > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > ASC 1 14 28 16 Mar Ven Ven Jup (16 not 32 sec) GH > > > > > > > > Up to sublord is the same and a slight difference in sub-sub > > lord. > > > > > > > > It may be the same with 7th SBL. > > > > 7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat > > > > 7th ---? ?------ GH > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant Raichur's > > > > > Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My > > BirthTime > > > is > > > > > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > > > > > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > > > > for > > > > > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > > > > > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > > > > > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > > > > > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - > > 1988 > > > > > > > > > > when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of Lagna > > > > comes at > > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > > > > > > > and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the Ayanamsha > > value > > > > > 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and > > > > > ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup > > > > > is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it > > changes > > > > my > > > > > 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 3, 2006 Dear Kanbir According to 4 step method, the person should get married beween 1st May to 30 Sep 2006. Good Luck. Donot ask for details. good luck karanbir_s0024 <karanbir_s0024 wrote: respected all kp,s astrologer kindly help me in pridicting the date of marriageof this girl as i have tried various method following are the particulars DOB=20-01-1978 TOB=14.00 POB = JALANDHAR LAT=31.19 N LONG=75.20 E Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 3, 2006 Dear Ahbay These days, I use the 4 step method for any predictions I make. good luck Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Raichur ji Sometimes......i have observed, " When a planet is a Sub lord of any house but......even if he is not signifying the house (no karyesh of that house), the planet give the result of that house in it's MD or AD " . For example, 10th SL is Mer. but....Mer. doesn't signify (no karyesh)10th house, still, in Mer. MD or AD , it will give result of 10th house like change in job etc. You have mentioned about 4step theory by Mr. Gondhalekar. Is the marriage period of this boy is coming in Jup. MD by this 4step theory? 18/09/1973, 11:10, mumbai anant raichur wrote: > Kanka Bosnia > I dis agree. 7th sublord is Merc. He cannot be significator of 7th > or 11th. > > No planets in his stars, so he will signify the house where he > resides, not 7th. > He is strong significator of 9th and weak significatro of 3,6. No > connection to 7th or > 11th. > There are 12 houses, only 9 planets, so the sub-lord will be common > for more than one house, and we cannot say that the planet common to > two houses signifies those houses. > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Amit, > > I dont know about four stap theory but as per KP MER is sublord of 7 > and 11th. No planet in the star of MER so MER is strong significatore > of 7 and 11.so marrriage is promise. > > regards > kanak > > ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: > Dear Sir, > This is my chart.I was reading four step theory and I found > that for me, the 7th house sub-lord is mercury which is in dual sign. > > 7th sublord- Mercury [3,6,9,10] > starlord- Sun[5,10] > sublord -Sun[5,10] > star of sublord - Sun[5,10] > > There is no mention of 2,7,11 houses for this theory.So does this mean > > that there wont be any marriges for me. > Thanks > Amit > Birth Data ---- > 20 Jan 1983 > 12.20 PM > 76.49 E,26.29 N (Gangapur City,Rajasthan) > > > HANSKPVEDIC (AT) (DOT) COM > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL > > SUN. 10 6 7 9 Sat Sun Mer Mar :ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > MOON 12 13 4 48 Jup Sat Rah Rah :2nd 2 14 11 31 Ven Moo Jup Sat > > MARS 11 8 37 39 Sat Rah Rah Mar :3rd 3 8 47 35 Mer Rah Jup Jup > > MERC-R 9 26 48 43 Jup Sun Sun Rah :4th 4 2 51 39 Moo Jup Rah Ven > > JUP. 8 11 10 39 Mar Sat Moo Rah :5th 5 0 16 2 Sun Ket Ket Moo > > VEN. 10 24 40 51 Sat Mar Rah Sat :6th 6 4 26 38 Mer Sun Sat Mar > > SAT. 7 10 26 21 Ven Rah Jup Rah :7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat > > RAHU 3 9 18 32 Mer Rah Jup Mer :8th 8 14 11 31 Mar Sat Rah Ven > > KETU 9 9 18 32 Jup Ket Jup Rah :9th 9 8 47 35 Jup Ket Jup Sun > > URAN 8 14 21 41 Mar Sat Rah Ven :10th 10 2 51 39 Sat Sun Jup Rah > > NEPT 9 4 25 4 Jup Ket Moo Mer :11th 11 0 16 2 Sat Mar Mer Mer > > FOR. 3 21 22 21 Mer Jup Jup Moo :12th 12 4 26 38 Jup Sat Sat Sun > > PLUT 7 5 57 30 Ven Mar Moo Jup > PROGRAMME BY RAICHURS OF GHATKOPAR > CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. > Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For > retrogression,Deg > Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no > planets > in them are not printed.. > > > * > *-* > | * * * > * | > | * * * > * | > | * * * Mo 12 * > > | > |3rd 3 * 2nd 2 * * 12t 12 * > | > | Ra 3 Fo 3 * * Asc 1 * * > | > | * * > | > | * * * * > Ma 11| > | * * * * > 11t 11| > | * * * * > > | > | * * * > * | > | * 4th 4 * * > * | > * * > * > | * * * Ve 10 Su 10 > * | > | * * * 10t 10 > * | > | * * * * > > | > |5th 5 * * * * > | > | * * * * > | > | * * > | > | * * Ju 8 * * Me > 9 Ke 9| > | * 6th 6 * 7th 7 * 8th 8 * > 9th 9| > | * Pl 7 * * Ur 8 * > > | > | * Sa 7 * * Ne 9 > * | > | * * * > * | > > *------- > --------------------------*-* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 3, 2006 Dear Ahbay These days, I use the 4 step method for any predictions I make. good luck Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Raichur ji Sometimes......i have observed, " When a planet is a Sub lord of any house but......even if he is not signifying the house (no karyesh of that house), the planet give the result of that house in it's MD or AD " . For example, 10th SL is Mer. but....Mer. doesn't signify (no karyesh)10th house, still, in Mer. MD or AD , it will give result of 10th house like change in job etc. You have mentioned about 4step theory by Mr. Gondhalekar. Is the marriage period of this boy is coming in Jup. MD by this 4step theory? 18/09/1973, 11:10, mumbai anant raichur wrote: > Kanka Bosnia > I dis agree. 7th sublord is Merc. He cannot be significator of 7th > or 11th. > > No planets in his stars, so he will signify the house where he > resides, not 7th. > He is strong significator of 9th and weak significatro of 3,6. No > connection to 7th or > 11th. > There are 12 houses, only 9 planets, so the sub-lord will be common > for more than one house, and we cannot say that the planet common to > two houses signifies those houses. > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear Amit, > > I dont know about four stap theory but as per KP MER is sublord of 7 > and 11th. No planet in the star of MER so MER is strong significatore > of 7 and 11.so marrriage is promise. > > regards > kanak > > ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: > Dear Sir, > This is my chart.I was reading four step theory and I found > that for me, the 7th house sub-lord is mercury which is in dual sign. > > 7th sublord- Mercury [3,6,9,10] > starlord- Sun[5,10] > sublord -Sun[5,10] > star of sublord - Sun[5,10] > > There is no mention of 2,7,11 houses for this theory.So does this mean > > that there wont be any marriges for me. > Thanks > Amit > Birth Data ---- > 20 Jan 1983 > 12.20 PM > 76.49 E,26.29 N (Gangapur City,Rajasthan) > > > HANSKPVEDIC (AT) (DOT) COM > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL > > SUN. 10 6 7 9 Sat Sun Mer Mar :ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > MOON 12 13 4 48 Jup Sat Rah Rah :2nd 2 14 11 31 Ven Moo Jup Sat > > MARS 11 8 37 39 Sat Rah Rah Mar :3rd 3 8 47 35 Mer Rah Jup Jup > > MERC-R 9 26 48 43 Jup Sun Sun Rah :4th 4 2 51 39 Moo Jup Rah Ven > > JUP. 8 11 10 39 Mar Sat Moo Rah :5th 5 0 16 2 Sun Ket Ket Moo > > VEN. 10 24 40 51 Sat Mar Rah Sat :6th 6 4 26 38 Mer Sun Sat Mar > > SAT. 7 10 26 21 Ven Rah Jup Rah :7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat > > RAHU 3 9 18 32 Mer Rah Jup Mer :8th 8 14 11 31 Mar Sat Rah Ven > > KETU 9 9 18 32 Jup Ket Jup Rah :9th 9 8 47 35 Jup Ket Jup Sun > > URAN 8 14 21 41 Mar Sat Rah Ven :10th 10 2 51 39 Sat Sun Jup Rah > > NEPT 9 4 25 4 Jup Ket Moo Mer :11th 11 0 16 2 Sat Mar Mer Mer > > FOR. 3 21 22 21 Mer Jup Jup Moo :12th 12 4 26 38 Jup Sat Sat Sun > > PLUT 7 5 57 30 Ven Mar Moo Jup > PROGRAMME BY RAICHURS OF GHATKOPAR > CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. > Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For > retrogression,Deg > Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no > planets > in them are not printed.. > > > * > *-* > | * * * > * | > | * * * > * | > | * * * Mo 12 * > > | > |3rd 3 * 2nd 2 * * 12t 12 * > | > | Ra 3 Fo 3 * * Asc 1 * * > | > | * * > | > | * * * * > Ma 11| > | * * * * > 11t 11| > | * * * * > > | > | * * * > * | > | * 4th 4 * * > * | > * * > * > | * * * Ve 10 Su 10 > * | > | * * * 10t 10 > * | > | * * * * > > | > |5th 5 * * * * > | > | * * * * > | > | * * > | > | * * Ju 8 * * Me > 9 Ke 9| > | * 6th 6 * 7th 7 * 8th 8 * > 9th 9| > | * Pl 7 * * Ur 8 * > > | > | * Sa 7 * * Ne 9 > * | > | * * * > * | > > *------- > --------------------------*-* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 3, 2006 Dear Mr. Raichur Yes, actually, since you use 4step method (by Mr. Gondhalekar) these days, that's why in my last mail also i had asked you that When do you think the marriage of that man will happen? I agree with you that it is difficult in Mars antardasha & it will be in Jup Mahadasha.......but can you also tell the correct Vidasha in Jup.-Jup. dasha?????? 18/09/1973, 11:10, Parel, Mumbai You have also given the date range to Kanbir, so, i am asking this to you. I hope you will reply. Thanks in advance. Regards Abhay anant raichur wrote: > Dear Ahbay > These days, I use the 4 step method for any predictions I make. > good luck > > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > Dear Raichur ji > > Sometimes......i have observed, " When a planet is a Sub lord of any > house but......even if he is not signifying the house (no karyesh of > that house), the planet give the result of that house in it's MD or > AD " . > For example, 10th SL is Mer. but....Mer. doesn't signify (no > karyesh)10th house, still, in Mer. MD or AD , it will give result of > 10th house like change in job etc. > > You have mentioned about 4step theory by Mr. Gondhalekar. Is the > marriage period of this boy is coming in Jup. MD by this 4step theory? > > 18/09/1973, 11:10, mumbai > > anant raichur wrote: > > > Kanka Bosnia > > I dis agree. 7th sublord is Merc. He cannot be significator of 7th > > > or 11th. > > > > No planets in his stars, so he will signify the house where he > > resides, not 7th. > > He is strong significator of 9th and weak significatro of 3,6. No > > connection to 7th or > > 11th. > > There are 12 houses, only 9 planets, so the sub-lord will be > common > > for more than one house, and we cannot say that the planet common to > > > two houses signifies those houses. > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Amit, > > > > I dont know about four stap theory but as per KP MER is sublord of > 7 > > and 11th. No planet in the star of MER so MER is strong > significatore > > of 7 and 11.so marrriage is promise. > > > > regards > > kanak > > > > ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > This is my chart.I was reading four step theory and I found > > that for me, the 7th house sub-lord is mercury which is in dual > sign. > > > > 7th sublord- Mercury [3,6,9,10] > > starlord- Sun[5,10] > > sublord -Sun[5,10] > > star of sublord - Sun[5,10] > > > > There is no mention of 2,7,11 houses for this theory.So does this > mean > > > > that there wont be any marriges for me. > > Thanks > > Amit > > Birth Data ---- > > 20 Jan 1983 > > 12.20 PM > > 76.49 E,26.29 N (Gangapur City,Rajasthan) > > > > > > HANSKPVEDIC (AT) (DOT) COM > > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 > > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > > > Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl > SsL > > > > SUN. 10 6 7 9 Sat Sun Mer Mar :ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven > Rah > > > > MOON 12 13 4 48 Jup Sat Rah Rah :2nd 2 14 11 31 Ven Moo Jup > Sat > > > > MARS 11 8 37 39 Sat Rah Rah Mar :3rd 3 8 47 35 Mer Rah Jup > Jup > > > > MERC-R 9 26 48 43 Jup Sun Sun Rah :4th 4 2 51 39 Moo Jup Rah > Ven > > > > JUP. 8 11 10 39 Mar Sat Moo Rah :5th 5 0 16 2 Sun Ket Ket > Moo > > > > VEN. 10 24 40 51 Sat Mar Rah Sat :6th 6 4 26 38 Mer Sun Sat > Mar > > > > SAT. 7 10 26 21 Ven Rah Jup Rah :7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer > Sat > > > > RAHU 3 9 18 32 Mer Rah Jup Mer :8th 8 14 11 31 Mar Sat Rah > Ven > > > > KETU 9 9 18 32 Jup Ket Jup Rah :9th 9 8 47 35 Jup Ket Jup > Sun > > > > URAN 8 14 21 41 Mar Sat Rah Ven :10th 10 2 51 39 Sat Sun Jup > Rah > > > > NEPT 9 4 25 4 Jup Ket Moo Mer :11th 11 0 16 2 Sat Mar Mer > Mer > > > > FOR. 3 21 22 21 Mer Jup Jup Moo :12th 12 4 26 38 Jup Sat Sat > Sun > > > > PLUT 7 5 57 30 Ven Mar Moo Jup > > PROGRAMME BY RAICHURS OF GHATKOPAR > > CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. > > Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For > > retrogression,Deg > > Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no > > planets > > in them are not printed.. > > > > > > * > > > *-* > > | * * * > > * | > > | * * * > > * | > > | * * * Mo 12 > * > > > > | > > |3rd 3 * 2nd 2 * * 12t 12 * > > | > > | Ra 3 Fo 3 * * Asc 1 * * > > | > > | * * > > | > > | * * * * > > Ma 11| > > | * * * * > > 11t 11| > > | * * * > * > > > > | > > | * * * > > * | > > | * 4th 4 * * > > * | > > * * > > * > > | * * * Ve 10 Su 10 > > * | > > | * * * 10t 10 > > * | > > | * * * > * > > > > | > > |5th 5 * * * * > > | > > | * * * * > > | > > | * * > > | > > | * * Ju 8 * * Me > > > 9 Ke 9| > > | * 6th 6 * 7th 7 * 8th 8 * > > 9th 9| > > | * Pl 7 * * Ur 8 > * > > > > | > > | * Sa 7 * * Ne 9 > > * | > > | * * * > > * | > > > > *------- > > --------------------------*-* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 3, 2006 respected anant ji thanks for the reply. i made a mistake in writing but i fixed the same houses as ur telling. when i said 11 house it was from the ninth house. and i have taken the chart as it is a chart of the father`s elder sister`s 2 child. i.e i have taken the first house for the daughter. please check the analysis again. and thanks for method anant raichur <raichurar wrote: Dear Aryan Your fixing houses is not correct Father of querrent 9th. Elder sister 11th from 9th= 7; @nd child of this person is 7th from this house=1st. So you decide as though the chart cast is of the person , i.e. 2nd daughter of elder sister of the father. What is the sublord of the 7th cusp? Find out if he is significator of 2,5,7 or 11. Then marriage is indicated. Next list the signigicators of 2nd,7th, and 11th house. Select from amongst these the strongest ones. A planet whose sub-lord indicates the other houses, is strong one to be selcted. If for example, MOON is signigicator of 2nd then if it is in Sub of say Merc, which is significtor of 7 or 11, choose it, BUT if the sub of Moon is significator of 6,1,10 then DO not select it. Having thus selected the planets which signify 2,7,11, then only CHECK RPs. and select the planets common to the above list and RPS. These will indicate the Dasa/Bhikti?antara Lords. This you have to select by common sense/judgement good luck 7th sublord is Moon: aryan aryan <aryan_concept wrote: respected gurus i am very new to the k.p concepts and this is my first posting in the forum. i am trying to learn k.p astrology but many a times get confused. today one of my friend asked me about his cousin sister`s(father`s immediate elder sister`s second child) marriage? he gave me number 237 and i calculated tihs number at 23:04 long-79:25:w lat- 43:40:n here is my analysis (according to my limited knowledge) father - 9 house immidiate elder - 11 house 2 child - 1 house marrige - 7 house 7csl - moon moon in- rahu star- rahu sub moon gives 1,3,6,10,11,12 and rahu gives 1,5,10,11,12 rahu is the decidinfg factor but it doesn`t negate the matter completely so i think the marriage will take place but the presence of 6 and 12 house confirms that marriage is going to be very late. now the question arrises when for that i took the ruling planet at the same lattitude r.p were -moon -mar -merc -merc -rahu she is running in rahu dasha and rahu is common so it`s confirmed that rahu dasha will give the marriage but which antra is the question? so the next antra which i get is of jupand than sat but they are not in the ruling planet so i think the next antra which is of mercury (also a ruling planet) will materialise the marriage in 2013. i want all guru ji to give there opinion on my fist number calculation. thanks tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Amit, You are absolutely right regarding 1st & 7th. What I would like to mention is those are not KP cusps except 1st & 7th by taking 14 28 16 for all cusps. 7th 7 14:28:15 Ve Ra Ke Ke (as per KPAstro 2.1) Regards, tw , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk wrote: > > Dear Sir, > In KP also , we have 1st cusp 180 degree opposite to 1st cusp... > so if 1st cusp is at 14.28 degrees then 7th cusp is also at 14.28 > libra .. and at 14.26 degrees, cuspal lord changes in libra(from > mercury to ketu) .. > Thanks > Amit > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > Do you refer the following > > > > 7th 7 14 28 16.03 Ven Rah Ket Ket (by Jagannatha Hora) > > > > which is not KP 7th cusp by the Placidus house system? > > > > > > If not so, which 7 th cusp position of longitudes you are talking? > > > > It may not be a difference in the SBL of 7th in your case. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear tw, > > > For 7th ,sublord changes to Ketu at the other calculation.. > > > Thanks > > > Amit > > > > > > , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amit, > > > > > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > ASC 1 14 28 16 Mar Ven Ven Jup (16 not 32 sec) GH > > > > > > > > Up to sublord is the same and a slight difference in sub-sub > > lord. > > > > > > > > It may be the same with 7th SBL. > > > > 7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer Sat > > > > 7th ---? ?------ GH > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ak_131 " <agrawal.amitk@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > I made my chart by KP Ayanamsha and By Shri Anant Raichur's > > > > > Software in Files section the Ayanamasha Value for My > > BirthTime > > > is > > > > > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > > > > > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > > > > for > > > > > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > > > > > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > > > > > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > > > > > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - > > 1988 > > > > > > > > > > when I calculated using the same Ayanamsha,the value of Lagna > > > > comes at > > > > > ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven Rah > > > > > > > > > > and when I calculated using Jagannath Hora for the Ayanamsha > > value > > > > > 23.31'48 " ,the Lagna comes at 14.28'32 " and > > > > > ASC 1 14 28 32 Mar Ven Ven Jup > > > > > is the value.Please confirm which one should I take,as it > > changes > > > > my > > > > > 7th sublord and a lot of sub-lords. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 3, 2006 Dear Abhay Godse In 4 step method, normally we fix the Dasa,Bhukti and Antara. One does not get into Sookshma. If one has to get a very close date, one has to use Transits. This is a bit complicated, and I do not do this unless It is for consultation for close friends. good luck Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: Dear Mr. Raichur Yes, actually, since you use 4step method (by Mr. Gondhalekar) these days, that's why in my last mail also i had asked you that When do you think the marriage of that man will happen? I agree with you that it is difficult in Mars antardasha & it will be in Jup Mahadasha.......but can you also tell the correct Vidasha in Jup.-Jup. dasha?????? 18/09/1973, 11:10, Parel, Mumbai You have also given the date range to Kanbir, so, i am asking this to you. I hope you will reply. Thanks in advance. Regards Abhay anant raichur wrote: > Dear Ahbay > These days, I use the 4 step method for any predictions I make. > good luck > > > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote: > Dear Raichur ji > > Sometimes......i have observed, " When a planet is a Sub lord of any > house but......even if he is not signifying the house (no karyesh of > that house), the planet give the result of that house in it's MD or > AD " . > For example, 10th SL is Mer. but....Mer. doesn't signify (no > karyesh)10th house, still, in Mer. MD or AD , it will give result of > 10th house like change in job etc. > > You have mentioned about 4step theory by Mr. Gondhalekar. Is the > marriage period of this boy is coming in Jup. MD by this 4step theory? > > 18/09/1973, 11:10, mumbai > > anant raichur wrote: > > > Kanka Bosnia > > I dis agree. 7th sublord is Merc. He cannot be significator of 7th > > > or 11th. > > > > No planets in his stars, so he will signify the house where he > > resides, not 7th. > > He is strong significator of 9th and weak significatro of 3,6. No > > connection to 7th or > > 11th. > > There are 12 houses, only 9 planets, so the sub-lord will be > common > > for more than one house, and we cannot say that the planet common to > > > two houses signifies those houses. > > > > > > Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > > Dear Amit, > > > > I dont know about four stap theory but as per KP MER is sublord of > 7 > > and 11th. No planet in the star of MER so MER is strong > significatore > > of 7 and 11.so marrriage is promise. > > > > regards > > kanak > > > > ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > This is my chart.I was reading four step theory and I found > > that for me, the 7th house sub-lord is mercury which is in dual > sign. > > > > 7th sublord- Mercury [3,6,9,10] > > starlord- Sun[5,10] > > sublord -Sun[5,10] > > star of sublord - Sun[5,10] > > > > There is no mention of 2,7,11 houses for this theory.So does this > mean > > > > that there wont be any marriges for me. > > Thanks > > Amit > > Birth Data ---- > > 20 Jan 1983 > > 12.20 PM > > 76.49 E,26.29 N (Gangapur City,Rajasthan) > > > > > > HANSKPVEDIC (AT) (DOT) COM > > PLACE: GANGAPUR;INDIA > > LAT. 26 , 29 NLONG 76 , 49 E > > DATE : 20 - 1 - 1983 : TIME: 12 H. 20 M. > > DASA BAL. : Sat 5 Y. 1 M. 9 Days: ENDS on 1 - 3 - 1988 > > AYANAMSA: 23 d. 31 m. 48 s. > > SIDERIAL TIME 19 : 53 : 37 > > > > Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl > SsL > > > > SUN. 10 6 7 9 Sat Sun Mer Mar :ASC 1 14 24 43 Mar Ven Ven > Rah > > > > MOON 12 13 4 48 Jup Sat Rah Rah :2nd 2 14 11 31 Ven Moo Jup > Sat > > > > MARS 11 8 37 39 Sat Rah Rah Mar :3rd 3 8 47 35 Mer Rah Jup > Jup > > > > MERC-R 9 26 48 43 Jup Sun Sun Rah :4th 4 2 51 39 Moo Jup Rah > Ven > > > > JUP. 8 11 10 39 Mar Sat Moo Rah :5th 5 0 16 2 Sun Ket Ket > Moo > > > > VEN. 10 24 40 51 Sat Mar Rah Sat :6th 6 4 26 38 Mer Sun Sat > Mar > > > > SAT. 7 10 26 21 Ven Rah Jup Rah :7th 7 14 24 43 Ven Rah Mer > Sat > > > > RAHU 3 9 18 32 Mer Rah Jup Mer :8th 8 14 11 31 Mar Sat Rah > Ven > > > > KETU 9 9 18 32 Jup Ket Jup Rah :9th 9 8 47 35 Jup Ket Jup > Sun > > > > URAN 8 14 21 41 Mar Sat Rah Ven :10th 10 2 51 39 Sat Sun Jup > Rah > > > > NEPT 9 4 25 4 Jup Ket Moo Mer :11th 11 0 16 2 Sat Mar Mer > Mer > > > > FOR. 3 21 22 21 Mer Jup Jup Moo :12th 12 4 26 38 Jup Sat Sat > Sun > > > > PLUT 7 5 57 30 Ven Mar Moo Jup > > PROGRAMME BY RAICHURS OF GHATKOPAR > > CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. > > Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For > > retrogression,Deg > > Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no > > planets > > in them are not printed.. > > > > > > * > > > *-* > > | * * * > > * | > > | * * * > > * | > > | * * * Mo 12 > * > > > > | > > |3rd 3 * 2nd 2 * * 12t 12 * > > | > > | Ra 3 Fo 3 * * Asc 1 * * > > | > > | * * > > | > > | * * * * > > Ma 11| > > | * * * * > > 11t 11| > > | * * * > * > > > > | > > | * * * > > * | > > | * 4th 4 * * > > * | > > * * > > * > > | * * * Ve 10 Su 10 > > * | > > | * * * 10t 10 > > * | > > | * * * > * > > > > | > > |5th 5 * * * * > > | > > | * * * * > > | > > | * * > > | > > | * * Ju 8 * * Me > > > 9 Ke 9| > > | * 6th 6 * 7th 7 * 8th 8 * > > 9th 9| > > | * Pl 7 * * Ur 8 > * > > > > | > > | * Sa 7 * * Ne 9 > > * | > > | * * * > > * | > > > > *------- > > --------------------------*-* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
