Guest guest Report post Posted March 5, 2010 Param Ji, //In Sikhism, white snakes were talked about and considered very good and and black snakes are not, especially if they had their toungues out.// Any reference ?. Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Fri, 5/3/10, Param Iqbal <param530 wrote: Param Iqbal <param530 Re: snake in dream Friday, 5 March, 2010, 1:19 AM  Understandable RRJi, per your request, you wanted a complete synopsis of all the various culture/religions and their interpretations and meaning of snakes, not I. Historically, the fundamentals are the same, but it is the culture that adds their own spin to the same stories/problems. In my opinion, the fundamentals of dreaming about a snake is either a good thing or not. In Hinduism and Sikhism, white snakes were talked about and considered very good and and black snakes are not, especially if they had their toungues out. Therefore, Sikhs have been known to appease Shiv Ji, at least that is what I have seen in my experience with my family and friends in the UK, where I used to go vacation every couple of years, US, where I have always lived and India, when I used to go visit my dad's family as well as Canada, where my family lives and my family in Seattle and NY/New Jersey in the Us. Our family is deeply religious in Sikhism, and we were not that into Hinduism, but I do have cousins who are Muslim and Hindu's. I grew up in private school where I had morning mass at 6 am in the morning in England. So I was extremely blessed to have the opportunity to be able to view all cultures with an open mind. Not too mention, California has a fantastic pot of gold of different ethnic backgrounds and we are not limited to one group of people. There is nothing like this wonderful state now going to Pot due to the economy. We always went to our family astrologer, who was Hindu-Punjabi, and he would prescribe us remedies for Mata Ji and Shiv Ji when we had dream afflictions. Alas, that wonderful man is no longer with us, but he was a great man to work with. He was open minded and was great at helping us with getting our rashi's and afflictions outlined for us and assisting us with remedial help. A true gem, who is sorely missed. On my in-laws side who are Muslim, they, too, see religious leaders who recommend certain remedies when there are dream afflictions with prayers and other stuff. However, since I have digressed, talking about my personal experiences. I was merely pointing out that cultures and religions try to appease the weakness through prayer and remedies. But since you wanted a comparison, who but yourself would be good at this, since you are more wiser than I and a true Jyotish. I am just a bystander. :-) Kind Regards, Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal ____________ _________ _________ __ rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ hotmail.com> Thu, March 4, 2010 3:16:37 PM Re: snake in dream Let me try and take you back to the original issue which remained addressed in your earlier responses :-) You wrote: ||||||||||| > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji. ||||||||||| I responded: > > Please do not think of this question as an expression of flippancy, but if this were indeed true, Muslims, Christians, Jews and possibly a few other religious types would never dream of serpants! > > ||||||||||| Obviously, the point I was raising was that the statement associating snake-dreams and Shivji is literally only applicable to those who believe in Shivji! Other religions too dream of snakes but the significances may be different! Hopefully you will see the irrelevance in your recent responses to the original matter, if not (highly likely -- that is fine too!) :-) A good example of Thread-drift/ topic-drift. Rohiniranjan , Param Iqbal <param530@.. .> wrote: > > Go for it, RR Ji. Why don't you present it to us? :-) I dare ya! > > > Kind Regards, > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Wed, March 3, 2010 7:00:33 PM > Re: snake in dream > > > Should we be mixing up " religions " and 'cultures', so recklessly? It dulls the acuity of evidence, sister! > > Before nailing the coffin shut as the expression goes, on this matter, the least one can do is to find and compare the significances of the 'snake dreams' in different MAJOR and EXISTING religions and draw a comparison and conclusion. > > It PAINS me to see how glibly and in a hand-waving way, we treat such serious matters such as dreams and nimitta which has caused obvious personal pain to an esteemed contributor on this forum, who did not deserve this and it just goes to demonstrate our collective spiritual maturity! And our seriousness and sincerity as a group! > > Is this what Jyotish and Divination has come down to...? > > Very SAD and DISTURBING, indeed! > > But to each his own, I suppose! > > Rohiniranjan > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > Hi, RR Ji. > > > > In regards to your comment, regarding this subject. I just have to say, it is proven that every religion has special meaning when it comes to dreams of serpants, scorpians, snakes. Look at the mayan culture and the early Egyptian, Greek, Chinese and Roman culture. When you look at ancient history, and review the heiroglyphics, serpants were very important in the early ages of time and mankind. > > > > Animals, in general, were revered or abhorred. Snakes or serpants, since the beginning of time, have always had significance in every culture in some way, shape or form. There have medicinal and remedial effects created to fix the dire suffering from this. Egyptian cultures worshipped cats and thought it was a bad omen, if you > > killed one. Just recently in the news, they did a story on how they > > found a cat temple in Alexandria, ancient Egypt. http://www.guardian ..co.uk/science/ 2010/jan/ 19/egypt- cat-god-temple- bastet > > > > > > Although, I am sikh, married to a man from a different culture, who is very open-minded in the differences of the cultures and accepts that although there are differences in the religions, the basic fundamentals are the same. The omnipresent. > > > > Astrology has a link to both the religion as well as daily interactions of having your spiritual, emotional and physical being conjoined to meet with the Omnipresent. That is why we end up in our latter days, after having to go through a midlife crisis, becoming more spiritual with the hopes of going to our maker and have our karma justified. > > > > People genuinely ask astrologers to make us whole as a person and to end our sufferings so we can feel better, in the spiritual, metaphyisical and emotional way. WE want to be healed from our suffering > > > > There are great Muslim, Jewish, Catholic/Christian, and Sikh spiritualists/ healers. (i,e. who have faith in astrology and the power it brings-predictive or not. It is a true blessing. (i.e. Sant Isher Singh, predicted his own death and was a great spiritual healer who people revered from all over the world Nostradamus predicted WWI, II and 09/11. Mayan Astrology, and there is Chinese Feng Shui). In all these cases, studies have shown astrology is about healing, which these people were noted. Any epic stories, you hear all noblemen went to astrologers to predict what would happen in their lives, and did not do anything without their astrologers advise of yay or nay. Of course, people were killed over this too, i.e. Salem Witch hunt. > > > > Bottom line, dreams can help us to know what is going in our lives. Therefore, both astrology and dreams are simultaneous predictors of what is going through our life and ultimately deals with how can we as a human being heal our lives to get the next stage. > > > > Sorry for the long book, but I concur with KrishnanJi talking about the same thing over and over again..is really not that educational. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Tue, March 2, 2010 4:48:31 PM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Paramjit_jee, > > > > Please do not think of this question as an expression of flippancy, but if this were indeed true, Muslims, Christians, Jews and possibly a few other religious types would never dream of serpants! > > > > I am afraid, we might have to dig deeper than merely religious symbols of one religion (dominant as it may be in this world or at least this forum) in order to really explore and understand Randhra: The home of the Serpant Symbol! > > > > Regards, > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji. Therefore, when I used to have these dreams. It was recommended I go to to pray to Lord Shiva at a temple, and pour milk on him and ask for his guidance and I did. > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Param Kaur Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 11:30:52 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > making fun of others feeling will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > archita > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ .co. in> > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev, > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 5, 2010 Dear Sir, We r too much engrossed with external orientation and forgetting that we as huamn beings and individual can think,plan and do for our own betterment. Our sage when they had nother thing/activity except to explore Nature and focus on human system along with cosmic nature of universe they expressed their views and explained the relationship of man with nature,god and many other latent fields of studies.Those observation,studies were actually having origin in classical and itehasa on ancient lore.Some us as the worlds order is rapidly changing to materialistic order,these hidden fields of studies and knowledge is also comiing to awreness by way of publication and by other mass media methods.No doubt Astrology rating have gone very high.Occult sciences along allied fields of knowledge too are reaching to the markets by way publications ,CDs and other short films.The popular entertainment through celluloid means too is also helping the common to enhance his interest in these areas.Today Scientifically orieted planetaria evokes lot lot of interest and the lattest solar eclipse is one such instance in which millions all over globe evinced keen interest. All these varied interest seems to have effect on huamn minds and making him a stereo typa than an innovative and dynamic personality.The destinity of past karmas seems to be a big bug to erode mental strength.Finally the old form of entertainment of katputalees seems to take cnter stage as most of us tend to think nothing is on our hands.The consequential sceptism need relook and review.we need to be more questioning ourselves and make oursleves responsible to work for our growth development however difficult it might seems to be.In the process we r becoming strong mentally and prepare oursleves to fight all odds.End of the day we gain ,get good rest and no other naxiety,worry or distrubed sleep.Dreams too remain distant.AStrology too advocates in every body's life harmony and peace and the ways one become more contended and at ease. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Thu, 3/4/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: snake in dream Thursday, March 4, 2010, 10:03 PM  Some of the weakest muscles in human body are those in the eyes and that hold the neck up, Paramjit jee! When we humans have been looking up towards the skies too long with our neck muscles extended and our eye muscles too focussed on the HEAVENS, it is advisable to put the astro-telescopes aside and to let the tired eye and neck muscles relax! And when we do that, from time to time, what ensues? Our necks relax, our head bows down and what do we see, next? Our Feet and where those rest: Ground zero or Earthly reality! Just a thought...! Rohiniranjan , Param Iqbal <param530@.. .> wrote: > > Just another side not RR Ji, I thought the purpose of Jyotish Remedies is to help people out and not to bring people down. As so many people look to this forum to help them with their problems, how can one answer, which may not be liked, based on your opinion, not possibly be helpful for someone else? > > > Kind Regards, > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Param Iqbal <param530@.. .> > > Thu, March 4, 2010 5:19:08 PM > Re: snake in dream > > > > > Understandable RRJi, per your request, you wanted a complete synopsis of all the various culture/religions and their interpretations and meaning of snakes, not I. Historically, the fundamentals are the same, but it is the culture that adds their own spin to the same stories/problems. > > In my opinion, the fundamentals of dreaming about a snake is either a good thing or not. In Hinduism and Sikhism, white snakes were talked about and considered very good and and black snakes are not, especially if they had their toungues out. Therefore, Sikhs have been known to appease Shiv Ji, at least that is what I have seen in my experience with my family and friends in the UK, where I used to go vacation every couple of years, US, where I have always lived and India, when I used to go visit my dad's family as well as Canada, where my family lives and my family in Seattle and NY/New Jersey in the Us. > > Our family is deeply religious in Sikhism, and we were not that into Hinduism, but I do have cousins who are Muslim and Hindu's. I grew up in private school where I had morning mass at 6 am in the morning in England. So I was extremely blessed to have the opportunity to be able to view all cultures with an open mind. Not too mention, California has a fantastic pot of gold of different ethnic backgrounds and we are not limited to one group of people. There is nothing like this wonderful state now going to Pot due to the economy. > > We always went to our family astrologer, who was Hindu-Punjabi, and he would prescribe us > remedies for Mata Ji and Shiv Ji when we had dream afflictions. Alas, that wonderful man is no longer with us, but he was a great man to > work with. He was open minded and was great at helping us with getting our rashi's and afflictions outlined for us and assisting us with remedial help. A true gem, who is sorely missed. > > On my in-laws side who are Muslim, they, too, see religious leaders who recommend certain remedies when there are dream afflictions with prayers and other stuff. > > However, since I have digressed, talking about my personal experiences. I was merely pointing out that cultures and religions try to appease the weakness through prayer and remedies. > > But since you wanted a comparison, who but yourself would be good at this, since you are more wiser than I and a true Jyotish. I am just a bystander. :-) > > > Kind Regards, > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > Thu, March 4, 2010 3:16:37 PM > Re: snake in dream > > > Let me try and take you back to the original issue which remained addressed in your earlier responses :-) > > You wrote: > ||||||||||| > > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji. > ||||||||||| > > I responded: > > > Please do not think of this question as an expression of flippancy, but if this were indeed true, Muslims, Christians, Jews and possibly a few other religious types would never dream of serpants! > > > > ||||||||||| > > Obviously, the point I was raising was that the statement associating snake-dreams and Shivji is literally only applicable to those who believe in Shivji! > > Other religions too dream of snakes but the significances may be different! > > Hopefully you will see the irrelevance in your recent responses to the original matter, if not (highly likely -- that is fine too!) :-) > > A good example of Thread-drift/ topic-drift. > > Rohiniranjan > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > Go for it, RR Ji. Why don't you present it to us? :-) I dare ya! > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Wed, March 3, 2010 7:00:33 PM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Should we be mixing up " religions " and 'cultures', so recklessly? It dulls the acuity of evidence, sister! > > > > Before nailing the coffin shut as the expression goes, on this matter, the least one can do is to find and compare the significances of the 'snake dreams' in different MAJOR and EXISTING religions and draw a comparison and conclusion. > > > > It PAINS me to see how glibly and in a hand-waving way, we treat such serious matters such as dreams and nimitta which has caused obvious personal pain to an esteemed contributor on this forum, who did not deserve this and it just goes to demonstrate our collective spiritual maturity! And our seriousness and sincerity as a group! > > > > Is this what Jyotish and Divination has come down to...? > > > > Very SAD and DISTURBING, indeed! > > > > But to each his own, I suppose! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, RR Ji. > > > > > > In regards to your comment, regarding this subject. I just have to say, it is proven that every religion has special meaning when it comes to dreams of serpants, scorpians, snakes. Look at the mayan culture and the early Egyptian, Greek, Chinese and Roman culture. When you look at ancient history, and review the heiroglyphics, serpants were very important in the early ages of time and mankind. > > > > > > Animals, in general, were revered or abhorred. Snakes or serpants, since the beginning of time, have always had significance in every culture in some way, shape or form. There have medicinal and remedial effects created to fix the dire suffering from this. Egyptian cultures worshipped cats and thought it was a bad omen, if you > > > killed one. Just recently in the news, they did a story on how they > > > found a cat temple in Alexandria, ancient Egypt. http://www.guardian ..co.uk/science/ 2010/jan/ 19/egypt- cat-god-temple- bastet > > > > > > > > > Although, I am sikh, married to a man from a different culture, who is very open-minded in the differences of the cultures and accepts that although there are differences in the religions, the basic fundamentals are the same. The omnipresent. > > > > > > Astrology has a link to both the religion as well as daily interactions of having your spiritual, emotional and physical being conjoined to meet with the Omnipresent. That is why we end up in our latter days, after having to go through a midlife crisis, becoming more spiritual with the hopes of going to our maker and have our karma justified. > > > > > > People genuinely ask astrologers to make us whole as a person and to end our sufferings so we can feel better, in the spiritual, metaphyisical and emotional way. WE want to be healed from our suffering > > > > > > There are great Muslim, Jewish, Catholic/Christian, and Sikh spiritualists/ healers. (i,e. who have faith in astrology and the power it brings-predictive or not. It is a true blessing. (i.e. Sant Isher Singh, predicted his own death and was a great spiritual healer who people revered from all over the world Nostradamus predicted WWI, II and 09/11. Mayan Astrology, and there is Chinese Feng Shui). In all these cases, studies have shown astrology is about healing, which these people were noted. Any epic stories, you hear all noblemen went to astrologers to predict what would happen in their lives, and did not do anything without their astrologers advise of yay or nay. Of course, people were killed over this too, i.e. Salem Witch hunt. > > > > > > Bottom line, dreams can help us to know what is going in our lives. Therefore, both astrology and dreams are simultaneous predictors of what is going through our life and ultimately deals with how can we as a human being heal our lives to get the next stage. > > > > > > Sorry for the long book, but I concur with KrishnanJi talking about the same thing over and over again..is really not that educational. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Tue, March 2, 2010 4:48:31 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Paramjit_jee, > > > > > > Please do not think of this question as an expression of flippancy, but if this were indeed true, Muslims, Christians, Jews and possibly a few other religious types would never dream of serpants! > > > > > > I am afraid, we might have to dig deeper than merely religious symbols of one religion (dominant as it may be in this world or at least this forum) in order to really explore and understand Randhra: The home of the Serpant Symbol! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji. Therefore, when I used to have these dreams. It was recommended I go to to pray to Lord Shiva at a temple, and pour milk on him and ask for his guidance and I did. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > Param Kaur Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 11:30:52 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > > > making fun of others feeling will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > > > archita > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev, > > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 5, 2010 Dear Rohini, This one sentence on knives in our hands just begins to link both Deepaks, one whom I know and the one whom I have started knowing ! " This Bikash Roy ! He doesn't speak our language, Aatma ka Aheri, the hunter of the soul! What the hell does it mean ! " Sir, better beware of him, he knows the usage of the language like ammunition ! He always comes to know the truth, in any given situation, and yes, he really is the -hunter of the Soul! Oh yes, I think I agree with you, there is some thing…he always carries a smile and he does not lose cool any time as a defense counsel. - From Court Martial Rohini, I am engrossed in the thread these days and don't feel like working …just remembering and somehow finding out Deepaks & am at ease. Raj Bhardwaj , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani wrote: > > You are right! We should be more careful when we pick up knives in our hands! > > Rohiniranjan > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > Da, here you have been caught red-handed, including celibates among baby-boomers ( " 'baby-boomers' tend to be generally more > > resilient " )!! > > > > -vj > > ===================== === > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes I agree! I have notice that 'baby-boomers' tend to be generally more resilient and have tougher skins than the younger generations! > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > <OOPS! Before posting this, I should have located my Teflon Kavach, now that the rotten tamatars and Andaas are sure to become Air-borne and North-bound!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I fail to see what was offending !! I was quoting others because I do not want to quote myself, although I had profusely quoted myself in bachelor's examination three decades ago and got topmost grade ! > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > , " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I was not criticising Vinay Jha Jee. He was merely quoting others, so there is no reason to confuse my question as criticism. > > > > > > > > > > I find that there is too much 'sensitivity' in some of these forums even though it is a 'sounding board'! > > > > > > > > > > Everyone expresses their personal perspective here just as you did. The question of offense does not arise, please rest assured :-) > > > > > > > > > > These are very *disturbed* times is all I can observe! > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kumar <rakesh_771119@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR Ji, > > > > > > Your question regarding Vinay ji post (i) " I am nothing every thing is god " If I every thing is god is every thing then why " I " remaining as a nothing.is not a question of mental level.It relates to the refined stage of wisdom called " pragya " .and when a soul got the experience of self realization then the truth appeared it self.This question is not the matter of discussion but at last Vinay Ji has given a direction also that we can learn some thing very great through " Patanjali Yog Sutra " This is a authentic book on practical yoga science,but there are very rare who have the practical knowledge about it.I apologize if any of my comment hurt any body. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 5, 2010 Param ji, //Sikhs have been known to appease Shiv Ji// you must be referring to Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Chandi Charitar Ukat Bilas “De hey Shiva var mohey ehay Shubh karman te kabhon na taron. Na daron ar siyon jab jaye laron nishchay kar apni jeet karon. Ar Sikh hon apne hi mann ko eh lalach han gun ton ochron. Jab aav ki audh nidhan baney At hi run mein tab joojh maron. " “O God of power, bless me this endowment, That nothing deters me from gracious and righteous deeds. And when fight I must, I fight for sure to victory with determination. That I am instructed in wisdom only by my higher mind, That I crave ever to utter thy praise. When comes the end of my life, I die fighting in the thick of a righteous war with limitless courage " Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Fri, 5/3/10, Param Iqbal <param530 wrote: Param Iqbal <param530 Re: snake in dream Friday, 5 March, 2010, 1:19 AM  Understandable RRJi, per your request, you wanted a complete synopsis of all the various culture/religions and their interpretations and meaning of snakes, not I. Historically, the fundamentals are the same, but it is the culture that adds their own spin to the same stories/problems. In my opinion, the fundamentals of dreaming about a snake is either a good thing or not. In Hinduism and Sikhism, white snakes were talked about and considered very good and and black snakes are not, especially if they had their toungues out. Therefore, Sikhs have been known to appease Shiv Ji, at least that is what I have seen in my experience with my family and friends in the UK, where I used to go vacation every couple of years, US, where I have always lived and India, when I used to go visit my dad's family as well as Canada, where my family lives and my family in Seattle and NY/New Jersey in the Us. Our family is deeply religious in Sikhism, and we were not that into Hinduism, but I do have cousins who are Muslim and Hindu's. I grew up in private school where I had morning mass at 6 am in the morning in England. So I was extremely blessed to have the opportunity to be able to view all cultures with an open mind. Not too mention, California has a fantastic pot of gold of different ethnic backgrounds and we are not limited to one group of people. There is nothing like this wonderful state now going to Pot due to the economy. We always went to our family astrologer, who was Hindu-Punjabi, and he would prescribe us remedies for Mata Ji and Shiv Ji when we had dream afflictions. Alas, that wonderful man is no longer with us, but he was a great man to work with. He was open minded and was great at helping us with getting our rashi's and afflictions outlined for us and assisting us with remedial help. A true gem, who is sorely missed. On my in-laws side who are Muslim, they, too, see religious leaders who recommend certain remedies when there are dream afflictions with prayers and other stuff. However, since I have digressed, talking about my personal experiences. I was merely pointing out that cultures and religions try to appease the weakness through prayer and remedies. But since you wanted a comparison, who but yourself would be good at this, since you are more wiser than I and a true Jyotish. I am just a bystander. :-) Kind Regards, Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal ____________ _________ _________ __ MARKETPLACE Hobbies & Activities Zone: Find others who share your passions! Explore new interests. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Un • Terms of Use . The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 5, 2010 Shivji is not a religious leader! He is not even a prophet or Awatar. HE IS GOD (for Hindus, at least) :-) All dream symbolisms always have personal reference. Personal in individual sense if one is an atheist, personal in a communal/cohort sense if a group of people adopt a common theology or shared imagery or shared symbolism, etc. All I say is that these 'personalizations' must be considered when figuring out what a dream means. There are no cookie-cutter, soft-cover solutions which apply universally. As they say, what is meaningful for the goose may not be so for the gandar... Thanks for chatting! Rohiniranjan , Param Iqbal <param530 wrote: > > > > Understandable RRJi, per your request, you wanted a complete synopsis of all the various culture/religions and their interpretations and meaning of snakes, not I. Historically, the fundamentals are the same, but it is the culture that adds their own spin to the same stories/problems. > > In my opinion, the fundamentals of dreaming about a snake is either a good thing or not. In Hinduism and Sikhism, white snakes were talked about and considered very good and and black snakes are not, especially if they had their toungues out. Therefore, Sikhs have been known to appease Shiv Ji, at least that is what I have seen in my experience with my family and friends in the UK, where I used to go vacation every couple of years, US, where I have always lived and India, when I used to go visit my dad's family as well as Canada, where my family lives and my family in Seattle and NY/New Jersey in the Us. > > Our family is deeply religious in Sikhism, and we were not that into Hinduism, but I do have cousins who are Muslim and Hindu's. I grew up in private school where I had morning mass at 6 am in the morning in England. So I was extremely blessed to have the opportunity to be able to view all cultures with an open mind. Not too mention, California has a fantastic pot of gold of different ethnic backgrounds and we are not limited to one group of people. There is nothing like this wonderful state now going to Pot due to the economy. > > We always went to our family astrologer, who was Hindu-Punjabi, and he would prescribe us > remedies for Mata Ji and Shiv Ji when we had dream afflictions. Alas, that wonderful man is no longer with us, but he was a great man to > work with. He was open minded and was great at helping us with getting our rashi's and afflictions outlined for us and assisting us with remedial help. A true gem, who is sorely missed. > > On my in-laws side who are Muslim, they, too, see religious leaders who recommend certain remedies when there are dream afflictions with prayers and other stuff. > > However, since I have digressed, talking about my personal experiences. I was merely pointing out that cultures and religions try to appease the weakness through prayer and remedies. > > But since you wanted a comparison, who but yourself would be good at this, since you are more wiser than I and a true Jyotish. I am just a bystander. :-) > > > Kind Regards, > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > ________________________________ > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > > Thu, March 4, 2010 3:16:37 PM > Re: snake in dream > > > Let me try and take you back to the original issue which remained addressed in your earlier responses :-) > > You wrote: > ||||||||||| > > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji. > ||||||||||| > > I responded: > > > Please do not think of this question as an expression of flippancy, but if this were indeed true, Muslims, Christians, Jews and possibly a few other religious types would never dream of serpants! > > > > ||||||||||| > > Obviously, the point I was raising was that the statement associating snake-dreams and Shivji is literally only applicable to those who believe in Shivji! > > Other religions too dream of snakes but the significances may be different! > > Hopefully you will see the irrelevance in your recent responses to the original matter, if not (highly likely -- that is fine too!) :-) > > A good example of Thread-drift/ topic-drift. > > Rohiniranjan > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > Go for it, RR Ji. Why don't you present it to us? :-) I dare ya! > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > Wed, March 3, 2010 7:00:33 PM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Should we be mixing up " religions " and 'cultures', so recklessly? It dulls the acuity of evidence, sister! > > > > Before nailing the coffin shut as the expression goes, on this matter, the least one can do is to find and compare the significances of the 'snake dreams' in different MAJOR and EXISTING religions and draw a comparison and conclusion. > > > > It PAINS me to see how glibly and in a hand-waving way, we treat such serious matters such as dreams and nimitta which has caused obvious personal pain to an esteemed contributor on this forum, who did not deserve this and it just goes to demonstrate our collective spiritual maturity! And our seriousness and sincerity as a group! > > > > Is this what Jyotish and Divination has come down to...? > > > > Very SAD and DISTURBING, indeed! > > > > But to each his own, I suppose! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, RR Ji. > > > > > > In regards to your comment, regarding this subject. I just have to say, it is proven that every religion has special meaning when it comes to dreams of serpants, scorpians, snakes. Look at the mayan culture and the early Egyptian, Greek, Chinese and Roman culture. When you look at ancient history, and review the heiroglyphics, serpants were very important in the early ages of time and mankind. > > > > > > Animals, in general, were revered or abhorred. Snakes or serpants, since the beginning of time, have always had significance in every culture in some way, shape or form. There have medicinal and remedial effects created to fix the dire suffering from this. Egyptian cultures worshipped cats and thought it was a bad omen, if you > > > killed one. Just recently in the news, they did a story on how they > > > found a cat temple in Alexandria, ancient Egypt. http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/jan/19/egypt-cat-god-temple-bastet > > > > > > > > > Although, I am sikh, married to a man from a different culture, who is very open-minded in the differences of the cultures and accepts that although there are differences in the religions, the basic fundamentals are the same. The omnipresent. > > > > > > Astrology has a link to both the religion as well as daily interactions of having your spiritual, emotional and physical being conjoined to meet with the Omnipresent. That is why we end up in our latter days, after having to go through a midlife crisis, becoming more spiritual with the hopes of going to our maker and have our karma justified. > > > > > > People genuinely ask astrologers to make us whole as a person and to end our sufferings so we can feel better, in the spiritual, metaphyisical and emotional way. WE want to be healed from our suffering > > > > > > There are great Muslim, Jewish, Catholic/Christian, and Sikh spiritualists/ healers. (i,e. who have faith in astrology and the power it brings-predictive or not. It is a true blessing. (i.e. Sant Isher Singh, predicted his own death and was a great spiritual healer who people revered from all over the world Nostradamus predicted WWI, II and 09/11. Mayan Astrology, and there is Chinese Feng Shui). In all these cases, studies have shown astrology is about healing, which these people were noted. Any epic stories, you hear all noblemen went to astrologers to predict what would happen in their lives, and did not do anything without their astrologers advise of yay or nay. Of course, people were killed over this too, i.e. Salem Witch hunt. > > > > > > Bottom line, dreams can help us to know what is going in our lives. Therefore, both astrology and dreams are simultaneous predictors of what is going through our life and ultimately deals with how can we as a human being heal our lives to get the next stage. > > > > > > Sorry for the long book, but I concur with KrishnanJi talking about the same thing over and over again..is really not that educational. > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > > > > Tue, March 2, 2010 4:48:31 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Paramjit_jee, > > > > > > Please do not think of this question as an expression of flippancy, but if this were indeed true, Muslims, Christians, Jews and possibly a few other religious types would never dream of serpants! > > > > > > I am afraid, we might have to dig deeper than merely religious symbols of one religion (dominant as it may be in this world or at least this forum) in order to really explore and understand Randhra: The home of the Serpant Symbol! > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , Param Iqbal <param530@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji. Therefore, when I used to have these dreams. It was recommended I go to to pray to Lord Shiva at a temple, and pour milk on him and ask for his guidance and I did. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > Param Kaur Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 11:30:52 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > > > making fun of others feeling will make urself in trouble one day. > > > > > > > > archita > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ .co. in> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev, > > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ?????? > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'Æ'‚ ÃÆ'Æ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Raj-Dada :-) An ordinary ant like me just does not have it in it -- what is needed to solve a puzzle like you have placed before us all :-) Ants may seem rather anxious and running helter-skelter, but they are also very patient and thus have survived through evolution, I suppose :-) Ants will wait patiently for clarity! In the meantime, work needs to be done, granules of sugar and other goodies to be carried to home, just in case it rains! For an ant three things are shashwat: hunger, humility and homing! Interestingly, the other species that too has survived the longest in the animal kingdom throughout creation too has the same three Hs as the motivation for life! I am talking about birds who fly from north to south hemisphere and all the way back home, again and again. And the Fish too (even the large mammals that look like fish: Whales!), the same three Hs. The insects belong to scorpio, the fish to pisces, but which rashi represents the birds? Even though they fly up high, most of the time, they are humble, fragile, and yet almost immortal as species through evolution! Perhaps one may need to move to finer divisions than kshetra to arrive at and find the BIRDS! (no reference to the scary movie by Alfred Hitchcock!) But since horror and threats were involved in the thread, a reference to BIRDS may not be entirely out of context! Stay well, Ma say aisie hi prarthanaa hai! Rohiniranjan , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949 wrote: > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > This one sentence on knives in our hands just begins to link both > Deepaks, one whom I know and the one whom I have started knowing ! > > > > " This Bikash Roy ! He doesn't speak our language, Aatma ka > Aheri, the hunter of the soul! What the hell does it mean ! > > > > " Sir, better beware of him, he knows the usage of the language like > ammunition ! He always comes to know the truth, in any given situation, > and yes, he really is the -hunter of the Soul! > > > > Oh yes, I think I agree with you, there is some thing…he always > carries a smile and he does not lose cool any time as a defense > counsel. - From Court Martial > > > > Rohini, I am engrossed in the thread these days and don't feel like > working …just remembering and somehow finding out Deepaks & am at > ease. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > You are right! We should be more careful when we pick up knives in our > hands! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > > > Da, here you have been caught red-handed, including celibates among > baby-boomers ( " 'baby-boomers' tend to be generally more > > > resilient " )!! > > > > > > -vj > > > ===================== === > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes I agree! I have notice that 'baby-boomers' tend to be > generally more resilient and have tougher skins than the younger > generations! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > <OOPS! Before posting this, I should have located my Teflon > Kavach, now that the rotten tamatars and Andaas are sure to become > Air-borne and North-bound!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I fail to see what was offending !! I was quoting others because > I do not want to quote myself, although I had profusely quoted myself in > bachelor's examination three decades ago and got topmost grade ! > > > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was not criticising Vinay Jha Jee. He was merely quoting > others, so there is no reason to confuse my question as criticism. > > > > > > > > > > > > I find that there is too much 'sensitivity' in some of these > forums even though it is a 'sounding board'! > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone expresses their personal perspective here just as you > did. The question of offense does not arise, please rest assured :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > These are very *disturbed* times is all I can observe! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kumar > <rakesh_771119@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR Ji, > > > > > > > Your question regarding Vinay ji post (i) " I am nothing > every thing is god " If I every thing is god is every thing then > why " I " remaining as a nothing.is not a question of mental level.It > relates to the refined stage of wisdom called " pragya " .and when a soul > got the experience of self realization then the truth appeared it > self.This question is not the matter of discussion but at last Vinay Ji > has given a direction also that we can learn some thing very great > through " Patanjali Yog Sutra " This is a authentic book on practical yoga > science,but there are very rare who have the practical knowledge about > it.I apologize if any of my comment hurt any body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > Homepage. http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Dear Sir, Winged creatures are much better and happier for many reasons.3H,RKM. inspiring concepts for many ,even to film are always engrossing and diverts time from devils workshop. The thread of dreams difficult to live and may be even if some body haunts need to go into shell and then make a small world of our own and live with big hope of betterment. Practicalities are life have worth to live,pursue and progress.Allowing the devils to over take and to surrender does not abode well.our pursuits always endorse pleasure and happiness.More a very good sleep that denies dreams.  Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Fri, 3/5/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: snake in dream Friday, March 5, 2010, 8:10 PM  Raj-Dada :-) An ordinary ant like me just does not have it in it -- what is needed to solve a puzzle like you have placed before us all :-) Ants may seem rather anxious and running helter-skelter, but they are also very patient and thus have survived through evolution, I suppose :-) Ants will wait patiently for clarity! In the meantime, work needs to be done, granules of sugar and other goodies to be carried to home, just in case it rains! For an ant three things are shashwat: hunger, humility and homing! Interestingly, the other species that too has survived the longest in the animal kingdom throughout creation too has the same three Hs as the motivation for life! I am talking about birds who fly from north to south hemisphere and all the way back home, again and again. And the Fish too (even the large mammals that look like fish: Whales!), the same three Hs. The insects belong to scorpio, the fish to pisces, but which rashi represents the birds? Even though they fly up high, most of the time, they are humble, fragile, and yet almost immortal as species through evolution! Perhaps one may need to move to finer divisions than kshetra to arrive at and find the BIRDS! (no reference to the scary movie by Alfred Hitchcock!) But since horror and threats were involved in the thread, a reference to BIRDS may not be entirely out of context! Stay well, Ma say aisie hi prarthanaa hai! Rohiniranjan , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > This one sentence on knives in our hands just begins to link both > Deepaks, one whom I know and the one whom I have started knowing ! > > > > " This Bikash Roy ! He doesn't speak our language, Aatma ka > Aheri, the hunter of the soul! What the hell does it mean ! > > > > " Sir, better beware of him, he knows the usage of the language like > ammunition ! He always comes to know the truth, in any given situation, > and yes, he really is the -hunter of the Soul! > > > > Oh yes, I think I agree with you, there is some thing…he always > carries a smile and he does not lose cool any time as a defense > counsel. - From Court Martial > > > > Rohini, I am engrossed in the thread these days and don't feel like > working …just remembering and somehow finding out Deepaks & am at > ease. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > You are right! We should be more careful when we pick up knives in our > hands! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > > > Da, here you have been caught red-handed, including celibates among > baby-boomers ( " 'baby-boomers' tend to be generally more > > > resilient " )! ! > > > > > > -vj > > > ============ ========= === > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes I agree! I have notice that 'baby-boomers' tend to be > generally more resilient and have tougher skins than the younger > generations! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > <OOPS! Before posting this, I should have located my Teflon > Kavach, now that the rotten tamatars and Andaas are sure to become > Air-borne and North-bound! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I fail to see what was offending !! I was quoting others because > I do not want to quote myself, although I had profusely quoted myself in > bachelor's examination three decades ago and got topmost grade ! > > > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was not criticising Vinay Jha Jee. He was merely quoting > others, so there is no reason to confuse my question as criticism. > > > > > > > > > > > > I find that there is too much 'sensitivity' in some of these > forums even though it is a 'sounding board'! > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone expresses their personal perspective here just as you > did. The question of offense does not arise, please rest assured :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > These are very *disturbed* times is all I can observe! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kumar > <rakesh_771119@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR Ji, > > > > > > > Your question regarding Vinay ji post (i) " I am nothing > every thing is god " If I every thing is god is every thing then > why " I " remaining as a nothing.is not a question of mental level.It > relates to the refined stage of wisdom called " pragya " .and when a soul > got the experience of self realization then the truth appeared it > self.This question is not the matter of discussion but at last Vinay Ji > has given a direction also that we can learn some thing very great > through " Patanjali Yog Sutra " This is a authentic book on practical yoga > science,but there are very rare who have the practical knowledge about > it.I apologize if any of my comment hurt any body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 LOCUSTS (TIDDIes), Krishnan-dada, are winged creatures too and we all know what they have been doing! For at least 2000 years, which is how long Bible has been around, I suppose! Perhaps these pests existed even in the more ancient times when the VEDAS were revealed to Mrityuloka! :-( RR_, , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Dear Sir, > Winged creatures are much better and happier for many reasons.3H,RKM. inspiring concepts for many ,even to film are always engrossing and diverts time from devils workshop. > The thread of dreams difficult to live and may be even if some body haunts need to go into shell and then make a small world of our own and live with big hope of betterment. Practicalities are life have worth to live,pursue and progress.Allowing the devils to over take and to surrender does not abode well.our pursuits always endorse pleasure and happiness.More a very good sleep that denies dreams. >  > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Fri, 3/5/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: snake in dream > > Friday, March 5, 2010, 8:10 PM >  > > > Raj-Dada :-) > > > > An ordinary ant like me just does not have it in it -- what is needed to solve a puzzle like you have placed before us all :-) > > > > Ants may seem rather anxious and running helter-skelter, but they are also very patient and thus have survived through evolution, I suppose :-) > > > > Ants will wait patiently for clarity! In the meantime, work needs to be done, granules of sugar and other goodies to be carried to home, just in case it rains! For an ant three things are shashwat: hunger, humility and homing! > > > > Interestingly, the other species that too has survived the longest in the animal kingdom throughout creation too has the same three Hs as the motivation for life! I am talking about birds who fly from north to south hemisphere and all the way back home, again and again. > > > > And the Fish too (even the large mammals that look like fish: Whales!), the same three Hs. > > > > The insects belong to scorpio, the fish to pisces, but which rashi represents the birds? Even though they fly up high, most of the time, they are humble, fragile, and yet almost immortal as species through evolution! > > > > Perhaps one may need to move to finer divisions than kshetra to arrive at and find the BIRDS! (no reference to the scary movie by Alfred Hitchcock!) > > > > But since horror and threats were involved in the thread, a reference to BIRDS may not be entirely out of context! > > > > Stay well, Ma say aisie hi prarthanaa hai! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > This one sentence on knives in our hands just begins to link both > > > Deepaks, one whom I know and the one whom I have started knowing ! > > > > > > > > > > > > " This Bikash Roy ! He doesn't speak our language, Aatma ka > > > Aheri, the hunter of the soul! What the hell does it mean ! > > > > > > > > > > > > " Sir, better beware of him, he knows the usage of the language like > > > ammunition ! He always comes to know the truth, in any given situation, > > > and yes, he really is the -hunter of the Soul! > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh yes, I think I agree with you, there is some thing…he always > > > carries a smile and he does not lose cool any time as a defense > > > counsel. - From Court Martial > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohini, I am engrossed in the thread these days and don't feel like > > > working …just remembering and somehow finding out Deepaks & am at > > > ease. > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > You are right! We should be more careful when we pick up knives in our > > > hands! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Da, here you have been caught red-handed, including celibates among > > > baby-boomers ( " 'baby-boomers' tend to be generally more > > > > > resilient " )! ! > > > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > > ============ ========= === > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I agree! I have notice that 'baby-boomers' tend to be > > > generally more resilient and have tougher skins than the younger > > > generations! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > <OOPS! Before posting this, I should have located my Teflon > > > Kavach, now that the rotten tamatars and Andaas are sure to become > > > Air-borne and North-bound! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fail to see what was offending !! I was quoting others because > > > I do not want to quote myself, although I had profusely quoted myself in > > > bachelor's examination three decades ago and got topmost grade ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was not criticising Vinay Jha Jee. He was merely quoting > > > others, so there is no reason to confuse my question as criticism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find that there is too much 'sensitivity' in some of these > > > forums even though it is a 'sounding board'! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone expresses their personal perspective here just as you > > > did. The question of offense does not arise, please rest assured :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are very *disturbed* times is all I can observe! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kumar > > > <rakesh_771119@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR Ji, > > > > > > > > > Your question regarding Vinay ji post (i) " I am nothing > > > every thing is god " If I every thing is god is every thing then > > > why " I " remaining as a nothing.is not a question of mental level.It > > > relates to the refined stage of wisdom called " pragya " .and when a soul > > > got the experience of self realization then the truth appeared it > > > self.This question is not the matter of discussion but at last Vinay Ji > > > has given a direction also that we can learn some thing very great > > > through " Patanjali Yog Sutra " This is a authentic book on practical yoga > > > science,but there are very rare who have the practical knowledge about > > > it.I apologize if any of my comment hurt any body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Rohini Dada, Bible and Vedas once informed about prithvi and also created jharnas to enjoy(might be for the pleasure of Adma and Eve). Now it is turn of Moon to experience tiddies as ice globules r seen and present there.Let's see how these winged creature dram about the new order.Humans ofcourse endured many things and experiences the life in this newly invented world. Tiddies make a dreaming matter for our bipeds to observe and know about their cycles.Nightmare to our poor men who toil and work for their bread in the fields.Also tiddies become prey to many but their numbers and forms are always scare for any body. Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma --- On Fri, 3/5/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: snake in dream Friday, March 5, 2010, 9:38 PM  LOCUSTS (TIDDIes), Krishnan-dada, are winged creatures too and we all know what they have been doing! For at least 2000 years, which is how long Bible has been around, I suppose! Perhaps these pests existed even in the more ancient times when the VEDAS were revealed to Mrityuloka! :-( RR_, , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > Winged creatures are much better and happier for many reasons.3H,RKM. inspiring concepts for many ,even to film are always engrossing and diverts time from devils workshop. > The thread of dreams difficult to live and may be even if some body haunts need to go into shell and then make a small world of our own and live with big hope of betterment. Practicalities are life have worth to live,pursue and progress.Allowing the devils to over take and to surrender does not abode well.our pursuits always endorse pleasure and happiness.More a very good sleep that denies dreams. >  > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Fri, 3/5/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > Re: snake in dream > > Friday, March 5, 2010, 8:10 PM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Raj-Dada :-) > > > > An ordinary ant like me just does not have it in it -- what is needed to solve a puzzle like you have placed before us all :-) > > > > Ants may seem rather anxious and running helter-skelter, but they are also very patient and thus have survived through evolution, I suppose :-) > > > > Ants will wait patiently for clarity! In the meantime, work needs to be done, granules of sugar and other goodies to be carried to home, just in case it rains! For an ant three things are shashwat: hunger, humility and homing! > > > > Interestingly, the other species that too has survived the longest in the animal kingdom throughout creation too has the same three Hs as the motivation for life! I am talking about birds who fly from north to south hemisphere and all the way back home, again and again. > > > > And the Fish too (even the large mammals that look like fish: Whales!), the same three Hs. > > > > The insects belong to scorpio, the fish to pisces, but which rashi represents the birds? Even though they fly up high, most of the time, they are humble, fragile, and yet almost immortal as species through evolution! > > > > Perhaps one may need to move to finer divisions than kshetra to arrive at and find the BIRDS! (no reference to the scary movie by Alfred Hitchcock!) > > > > But since horror and threats were involved in the thread, a reference to BIRDS may not be entirely out of context! > > > > Stay well, Ma say aisie hi prarthanaa hai! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > This one sentence on knives in our hands just begins to link both > > > Deepaks, one whom I know and the one whom I have started knowing ! > > > > > > > > > > > > " This Bikash Roy ! He doesn't speak our language, Aatma ka > > > Aheri, the hunter of the soul! What the hell does it mean ! > > > > > > > > > > > > " Sir, better beware of him, he knows the usage of the language like > > > ammunition ! He always comes to know the truth, in any given situation, > > > and yes, he really is the -hunter of the Soul! > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh yes, I think I agree with you, there is some thing…he always > > > carries a smile and he does not lose cool any time as a defense > > > counsel. - From Court Martial > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohini, I am engrossed in the thread these days and don't feel like > > > working …just remembering and somehow finding out Deepaks & am at > > > ease. > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > You are right! We should be more careful when we pick up knives in our > > > hands! > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Da, here you have been caught red-handed, including celibates among > > > baby-boomers ( " 'baby-boomers' tend to be generally more > > > > > resilient " )! ! > > > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > > ============ ========= === > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I agree! I have notice that 'baby-boomers' tend to be > > > generally more resilient and have tougher skins than the younger > > > generations! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > <OOPS! Before posting this, I should have located my Teflon > > > Kavach, now that the rotten tamatars and Andaas are sure to become > > > Air-borne and North-bound! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fail to see what was offending !! I was quoting others because > > > I do not want to quote myself, although I had profusely quoted myself in > > > bachelor's examination three decades ago and got topmost grade ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was not criticising Vinay Jha Jee. He was merely quoting > > > others, so there is no reason to confuse my question as criticism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find that there is too much 'sensitivity' in some of these > > > forums even though it is a 'sounding board'! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone expresses their personal perspective here just as you > > > did. The question of offense does not arise, please rest assured :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are very *disturbed* times is all I can observe! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kumar > > > <rakesh_771119@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR Ji, > > > > > > > > > Your question regarding Vinay ji post (i) " I am nothing > > > every thing is god " If I every thing is god is every thing then > > > why " I " remaining as a nothing.is not a question of mental level.It > > > relates to the refined stage of wisdom called " pragya " .and when a soul > > > got the experience of self realization then the truth appeared it > > > self.This question is not the matter of discussion but at last Vinay Ji > > > has given a direction also that we can learn some thing very great > > > through " Patanjali Yog Sutra " This is a authentic book on practical yoga > > > science,but there are very rare who have the practical knowledge about > > > it.I apologize if any of my comment hurt any body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Poor men (and women) who toil in their do bigha zameen are so tired by the end of the day that they just get sleep; no dreams or nightmares! As do those with 'zameers'... Rohiniranjan , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote: > > Rohini Dada, > Bible and Vedas once informed about prithvi and also created jharnas to enjoy(might be for the pleasure of Adma and Eve). > Now it is turn of Moon to experience tiddies as ice globules r seen and present there.Let's see how these winged creature dram about the new order.Humans ofcourse endured many things and experiences the life in this newly invented world. > Tiddies make a dreaming matter for our bipeds to observe and know about their cycles.Nightmare to our poor men who toil and work for their bread in the fields.Also tiddies become prey to many but their numbers and forms are always scare for any body. > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > --- On Fri, 3/5/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: snake in dream > > Friday, March 5, 2010, 9:38 PM >  > > > LOCUSTS (TIDDIes), Krishnan-dada, are winged creatures too and we all know what they have been doing! For at least 2000 years, which is how long Bible has been around, I suppose! Perhaps these pests existed even in the more ancient times when the VEDAS were revealed to Mrityuloka! :-( > > > > RR_, > > > > , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > Winged creatures are much better and happier for many reasons.3H,RKM. inspiring concepts for many ,even to film are always engrossing and diverts time from devils workshop. > > > The thread of dreams difficult to live and may be even if some body haunts need to go into shell and then make a small world of our own and live with big hope of betterment. Practicalities are life have worth to live,pursue and progress.Allowing the devils to over take and to surrender does not abode well.our pursuits always endorse pleasure and happiness.More a very good sleep that denies dreams. > > >  > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/5/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani@ ...> > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Friday, March 5, 2010, 8:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj-Dada :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > An ordinary ant like me just does not have it in it -- what is needed to solve a puzzle like you have placed before us all :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ants may seem rather anxious and running helter-skelter, but they are also very patient and thus have survived through evolution, I suppose :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ants will wait patiently for clarity! In the meantime, work needs to be done, granules of sugar and other goodies to be carried to home, just in case it rains! For an ant three things are shashwat: hunger, humility and homing! > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, the other species that too has survived the longest in the animal kingdom throughout creation too has the same three Hs as the motivation for life! I am talking about birds who fly from north to south hemisphere and all the way back home, again and again. > > > > > > > > > > > > And the Fish too (even the large mammals that look like fish: Whales!), the same three Hs. > > > > > > > > > > > > The insects belong to scorpio, the fish to pisces, but which rashi represents the birds? Even though they fly up high, most of the time, they are humble, fragile, and yet almost immortal as species through evolution! > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps one may need to move to finer divisions than kshetra to arrive at and find the BIRDS! (no reference to the scary movie by Alfred Hitchcock!) > > > > > > > > > > > > But since horror and threats were involved in the thread, a reference to BIRDS may not be entirely out of context! > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay well, Ma say aisie hi prarthanaa hai! > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one sentence on knives in our hands just begins to link both > > > > > > > Deepaks, one whom I know and the one whom I have started knowing ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This Bikash Roy ! He doesn't speak our language, Aatma ka > > > > > > > Aheri, the hunter of the soul! What the hell does it mean ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Sir, better beware of him, he knows the usage of the language like > > > > > > > ammunition ! He always comes to know the truth, in any given situation, > > > > > > > and yes, he really is the -hunter of the Soul! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh yes, I think I agree with you, there is some thing…he always > > > > > > > carries a smile and he does not lose cool any time as a defense > > > > > > > counsel. - From Court Martial > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohini, I am engrossed in the thread these days and don't feel like > > > > > > > working …just remembering and somehow finding out Deepaks & am at > > > > > > > ease. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right! We should be more careful when we pick up knives in our > > > > > > > hands! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha " vinayjhaa16@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Da, here you have been caught red-handed, including celibates among > > > > > > > baby-boomers ( " 'baby-boomers' tend to be generally more > > > > > > > > > resilient " )! ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > > > > > > ============ ========= === > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I agree! I have notice that 'baby-boomers' tend to be > > > > > > > generally more resilient and have tougher skins than the younger > > > > > > > generations! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <OOPS! Before posting this, I should have located my Teflon > > > > > > > Kavach, now that the rotten tamatars and Andaas are sure to become > > > > > > > Air-borne and North-bound! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fail to see what was offending !! I was quoting others because > > > > > > > I do not want to quote myself, although I had profusely quoted myself in > > > > > > > bachelor's examination three decades ago and got topmost grade ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -vj > > > > > > > > > > > , " rohinicrystal " > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was not criticising Vinay Jha Jee. He was merely quoting > > > > > > > others, so there is no reason to confuse my question as criticism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find that there is too much 'sensitivity' in some of these > > > > > > > forums even though it is a 'sounding board'! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone expresses their personal perspective here just as you > > > > > > > did. The question of offense does not arise, please rest assured :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These are very *disturbed* times is all I can observe! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR_, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > <rakesh_771119@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear RR Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your question regarding Vinay ji post (i) " I am nothing > > > > > > > every thing is god " If I every thing is god is every thing then > > > > > > > why " I " remaining as a nothing.is not a question of mental level.It > > > > > > > relates to the refined stage of wisdom called " pragya " .and when a soul > > > > > > > got the experience of self realization then the truth appeared it > > > > > > > self.This question is not the matter of discussion but at last Vinay Ji > > > > > > > has given a direction also that we can learn some thing very great > > > > > > > through " Patanjali Yog Sutra " This is a authentic book on practical yoga > > > > > > > science,but there are very rare who have the practical knowledge about > > > > > > > it.I apologize if any of my comment hurt any body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > > > > > Homepage. http://in.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 In my personal and insignificant life, praaji, there was one occasion when I chose to move from the blessings of Mahakaal's pradesh to Chandigarh and experienced my TRUE AWAKENING (closer to Kailash, physically, I suppose?) and then ended up in Kashi, back again in Baba's lap! Such wonderful lessons in those few years (actually in a few days and even moments during those many years!) that I was able to close the BOOK and OPEN a new one! I am still reading that one. Sometimes, *shaktipat* arrives in the form of a companion during a journey on a bus on Grand Trunk Road -- created by Sher Singh Suri, I believe...? And, without any magic, drama or fanfare! Like that advocate that was right there and ready to help and give when Bhikaaran needed a helping hand...! Rohiniranjan , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Param ji, > //Sikhs have been known to appease Shiv Ji// > you must be referring to Guru Gobind Singh Ji's > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Respected SiRR Ji, I apologize from core of my heart for my act of omission, Not that I didn't believe your word of honour to consider the correspondence about Author of lalkitab as private; I was in dilemma lest it casts a wrong impression about the book. but now i have the courage to make it public. Sir, Apart from What i Wrote on the Subject earlier. One person Whom I considered as the most advanced in lalkitab system told me, that during his posting in Himachal Pradesh Pundit Rup Chand Joshi Ji , in his dream or semi conscious state was contacted by some souls of Divinators. These souls were of Divinators executed by a Queen of North India. Thereafter begun the process of writing Lalkitab. Pt. Ji. never claimed its authorship. Many translations and translations are in the market but never a claim rather even a remote comment has been made by Pt Ji's family. And Sir, I do believe in it. This may appear as a story but as Osho put it Story (Kahani) is after all Kaha(uttered)ni(not) Regards Kulbir Bains --- On Sat, 6/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani Re: snake in dream Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:44 AM Â In my personal and insignificant life, praaji, there was one occasion when I chose to move from the blessings of Mahakaal's pradesh to Chandigarh and experienced my TRUE AWAKENING (closer to Kailash, physically, I suppose?) and then ended up in Kashi, back again in Baba's lap! Such wonderful lessons in those few years (actually in a few days and even moments during those many years!) that I was able to close the BOOK and OPEN a new one! I am still reading that one. Sometimes, *shaktipat* arrives in the form of a companion during a journey on a bus on Grand Trunk Road -- created by Sher Singh Suri, I believe...? And, without any magic, drama or fanfare! Like that advocate that was right there and ready to help and give when Bhikaaran needed a helping hand...! Rohiniranjan , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > Param ji, > //Sikhs have been known to appease Shiv Ji// > you must be referring to Guru Gobind Singh Ji's > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Dear Kulbir, This shows how good hearted person you are! I have learnt and understood a lot from your exchange of mails in this thread, few were realy gems. God bless you in serving the humanity at large. Raj Bhardwaj , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Respected SiRR Ji, > I apologize from core of my heart for my act of omission, > Not that I didn't believe your word of honour to consider the correspondence about Author of lalkitab as private; I was in dilemma lest it casts a wrong impression about the book. but now i have the courage to make it public. > Sir, Apart from What i Wrote on the Subject earlier. One person Whom I considered as the most advanced in lalkitab system told me, that during his posting in Himachal Pradesh Pundit Rup Chand Joshi Ji , in his dream or semi conscious state was contacted by some souls of Divinators. These souls were of Divinators executed by a Queen of North India. > Thereafter begun the process of writing Lalkitab. Pt. Ji. never claimed its authorship. Many translations and translations are in the market but never a claim rather even a remote comment has been made by Pt Ji's family. > And Sir, I do believe in it. > This may appear as a story but as Osho put it Story (Kahani) is after all Kaha(uttered)ni(not) > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: snake in dream > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:44 AM > Â > > > In my personal and insignificant life, praaji, there was one occasion when I chose to move from the blessings of Mahakaal's pradesh to Chandigarh and experienced my TRUE AWAKENING (closer to Kailash, physically, I suppose?) and then ended up in Kashi, back again in Baba's lap! > > > > Such wonderful lessons in those few years (actually in a few days and even moments during those many years!) that I was able to close the BOOK and OPEN a new one! I am still reading that one. > > > > Sometimes, *shaktipat* arrives in the form of a companion during a journey on a bus on Grand Trunk Road -- created by Sher Singh Suri, I believe...? And, without any magic, drama or fanfare! Like that advocate that was right there and ready to help and give when Bhikaaran needed a helping hand...! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Param ji, > > > //Sikhs have been known to appease Shiv Ji// > > > you must be referring to Guru Gobind Singh Ji's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 6, 2010 Kulbir praaji, Thanks for sharing so transparently. And absolutely no apologies necessary! These are very uncertain, disturbing and " disturbed " times (just look around ....!) and discretion indeed is the better part of valour, these days! Warm regards, Rohiniranjan , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Respected SiRR Ji, > I apologize from core of my heart for my act of omission, > Not that I didn't believe your word of honour to consider the correspondence about Author of lalkitab as private; I was in dilemma lest it casts a wrong impression about the book. but now i have the courage to make it public. > Sir, Apart from What i Wrote on the Subject earlier. One person Whom I considered as the most advanced in lalkitab system told me, that during his posting in Himachal Pradesh Pundit Rup Chand Joshi Ji , in his dream or semi conscious state was contacted by some souls of Divinators. These souls were of Divinators executed by a Queen of North India. > Thereafter begun the process of writing Lalkitab. Pt. Ji. never claimed its authorship. Many translations and translations are in the market but never a claim rather even a remote comment has been made by Pt Ji's family. > And Sir, I do believe in it. > This may appear as a story but as Osho put it Story (Kahani) is after all Kaha(uttered)ni(not) > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > --- On Sat, 6/3/10, rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani wrote: > > rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani > Re: snake in dream > > Saturday, 6 March, 2010, 6:44 AM > Â > > > In my personal and insignificant life, praaji, there was one occasion when I chose to move from the blessings of Mahakaal's pradesh to Chandigarh and experienced my TRUE AWAKENING (closer to Kailash, physically, I suppose?) and then ended up in Kashi, back again in Baba's lap! > > > > Such wonderful lessons in those few years (actually in a few days and even moments during those many years!) that I was able to close the BOOK and OPEN a new one! I am still reading that one. > > > > Sometimes, *shaktipat* arrives in the form of a companion during a journey on a bus on Grand Trunk Road -- created by Sher Singh Suri, I believe...? And, without any magic, drama or fanfare! Like that advocate that was right there and ready to help and give when Bhikaaran needed a helping hand...! > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Param ji, > > > //Sikhs have been known to appease Shiv Ji// > > > you must be referring to Guru Gobind Singh Ji's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 8, 2010 , " Raj " <rajbhardwaj1949 wrote: > > > Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,, > > > > Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you > caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early > morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked > my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my > condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After > tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and > Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to > watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The > dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was > interrupted,as my wife ws to give me medicine. > > > > In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail > from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the > comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " > one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of > Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond > texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can > then draw a Prashana kundali. > > > > I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7 > pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana > kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th > house with Jup,Mer,Ven,- 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th, > 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi > pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in > Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house. > Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On > working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it > appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth > chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like > situation. > > As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a > number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of > Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11 > lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local > Pandit ji. > > > > Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health > factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the > type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial > help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my > close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I > die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something > out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita. > If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power > to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi , > > because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be > failing. With all my love. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " > <sureshbabuag@> wrote: > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to > create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through > in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams > and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a > thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc > to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also > part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of > dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is > what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting > to astrologers and human kind. > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond > the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their > dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the > situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in > Particular. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as > God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or > during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just > name ony one? > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any > good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night > itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it > as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only > troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a > welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you > my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait > for your teaching. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear raj > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one > day. > > > > > > archita > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > >  > > > Dear Dev, > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't > read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps > you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone > kisses you ?????? > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan > Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple > in Palani. > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While >  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers > of Mans Karma > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was > there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I > was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi >>>>>>> Respected Raj Ji, Plz check tour sleeping posture at night If you sleep in right posture you will have to phase the same trouble again.There is a medical cause behind it that we have to face snakes and such type of horror scens which disturb us.So plz try to sleep in left posture,because if you sleep in left posture your inhaling stars from right nosture and you enjoy the effect of " Surya Chkra " of our kundalini this will give you energy and you will find your self energetic. If you sleep in right posture your " chander Chkra " Ida nadi is functioning and cool effect is collected by you.At night hour when the temprature is low in punjab side and you are already much exerted after that you sleep in right poster you will loose the energy level due to cold effect collected by by the cool breez from the chander nadi. i think you and other members of this group can easily under stand the reason behind it that why a person see the snakes in the dreams.That's all. May god bless you with fine health and more enegetic to serve the humanity. With sincere regards, Rakesh Kumar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go > to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Dear Raj sir, I was quite saddened to see your following mail. You have helped so many people with all sincerity and I really pray to Mahadev that he bestows a very long and healthy life upon you. I am way younger than you in age, but still want to emphatically request you to not to harbor any negative thoughts. I am so very tempted to go to my Puja room and start praying for me, but unfortunately for some reasons for the last one year or so, my Pooja has completed stopped and my Pooja room is not in order as it should be. However, I intend to start my pooja as soon as I can and I would definitely devote one mala of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra for your healthy life. I am sure your well wishers in this list would also do the same. I have lot of faith in Mahadev and I strongly feel everything will be OK with your health. Best regards  ________________________________ VJha <vinayjhaa16 Tue, March 2, 2010 2:03:20 AM Re: snake in dream  Raj Ji, I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world and therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which causes you to worry about your death. -vj ============ ==== === , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.// > //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down// > Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your dreams more astrologically. Try to maintain your sound health and take sound sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications. > Dhirendra Nath Misra >  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM > Re: snake in dream > >  > > Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,, > > Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you > caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early > morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked > my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my > condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After > tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and > Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to > watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The > dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was > interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine. > > In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail > from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the > comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " > one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of > Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond > texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can > then draw a Prashana kundali. > > I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7 > pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana > kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th > house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th, > 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi > pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in > Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house. > Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On > working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it > appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth > chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like > situation. > > As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a > number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of > Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11 > lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local > Pandit ji. > > Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health > factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the > type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial > help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my > close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I > die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something > out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita. > If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power > to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi , > > because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be > failing. With all my love. > > Raj Bhardwaj > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to > create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through > in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams > and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a > thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc > to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also > part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of > dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is > what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting > to astrologers and human kind. > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond > the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their > dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the > situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in > Particular. > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ... > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as > God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or > during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just > name ony one? > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any > good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night > itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it > as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only > troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a > welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you > my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait > for your teaching. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear raj > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one > day. > > > > > > archita > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > >  > > > Dear Dev, > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't > read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps > you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone > kisses you ?????? > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan > Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple > in Palani. > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'‚ > ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers > of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was > there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I > was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go > to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 14, 2010 My Dear Baby Iyer, Thanks a lot for your moving and encouraging words for my well being. I am really fine now and doing my work,as before. I shall feel happy if you are able to re-arrange your pooja room and and start Your regular pooja. May be, I also get inspired by you and can do my poojas regularly, which have stopped for past 5 years (except for the pooja for cleansing and energising the stones/rudrakshas for those who come to me regularly,with the belief that it helps them). My sincere thanks for your kind and caring words. With best wishes and blessings to you. Raj Bhardwaj , Baby Iyer <iyerbaby wrote: > > Dear Raj sir, > I was quite saddened to see your following mail. You have helped so many people with all sincerity and I really pray to Mahadev that he bestows a very long and healthy life upon you. I am way younger than you in age, but still want to emphatically request you to not to harbor any negative thoughts. I am so very tempted to go to my Puja room and start praying for me, but unfortunately for some reasons for the last one year or so, my Pooja has completed stopped and my Pooja room is not in order as it should be. However, I intend to start my pooja as soon as I can and I would definitely devote one mala of Maha Mrityunjay Mantra for your healthy life. I am sure your well wishers in this list would also do the same. I have lot of faith in Mahadev and I strongly feel everything will be OK with your health. > Best regards > >  > > > > ________________________________ > VJha <vinayjhaa16 > > Tue, March 2, 2010 2:03:20 AM > Re: snake in dream > >  > Raj Ji, > > I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world and therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which causes you to worry about your death. > > -vj > ============ ==== === > , Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra wrote: > > > > // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.// > > //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down// > > Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your dreams more astrologically. Try to maintain your sound health and take sound sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications. > > Dhirendra Nath Misra > >  > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM > > Re: snake in dream > > > >  > > > > Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,, > > > > Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you > > caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early > > morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked > > my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my > > condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After > > tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and > > Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to > > watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The > > dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was > > interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine. > > > > In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail > > from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the > > comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " > > one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of > > Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond > > texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can > > then draw a Prashana kundali. > > > > I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7 > > pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana > > kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th > > house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th, > > 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi > > pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in > > Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house. > > Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On > > working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it > > appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth > > chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like > > situation. > > > > As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a > > number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of > > Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11 > > lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local > > Pandit ji. > > > > Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health > > factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the > > type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial > > help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my > > close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I > > die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something > > out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita. > > If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power > > to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi , > > > > because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be > > failing. With all my love. > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > , " Suresh Babu.A.G " > > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others, > > > > > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to > > create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through > > in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment > > > > > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part > > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? // > > > > > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams > > and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a > > thousand years back. There are others also. > > > > > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc > > to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also > > part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of > > dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is > > what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting > > to astrologers and human kind. > > > > > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond > > the text books & particularly that of Horashastras. > > > > > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their > > dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the > > situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in > > Particular. > > > > > > > > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ... > > > > > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as > > God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or > > during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just > > name ony one? > > > > > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any > > good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night > > itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it > > as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only > > troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a > > welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you > > my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait > > for your teaching. > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@ > > ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear raj > > > > Why are u misleading people ? > > > > > > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures > > > > > > > > if u donot want to help stay aside. > > > > > > > > making fun of others feeling ÃÆ'‚ will make urself in trouble one > > day. > > > > > > > > archita > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...> > > > > > > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM > > > > Re: snake in dream > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Dear Dev, > > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't > > read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about > > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps > > you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone > > kisses you ?????? > > > > > > > > Raj Bhardwaj > > > > > > > > , Vattem Krishnan > > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mr Dev, > > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan > > Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple > > in Palani. > > > > > > > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling > > services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers > > of Mans KarmaÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dev <vdev17@> > > > > > snake in dream > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear astrologers: > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was > > there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I > > was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go > > to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
