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Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

 

 

 

Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

interrupted,as my wife ws to give me medicine.

 

 

 

In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

then draw a Prashana kundali.

 

 

 

I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

house with Jup,Mer,Ven,- 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

situation.

 

As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

Pandit ji.

 

 

 

Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

 

because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

failing. With all my love.

 

 

 

Raj Bhardwaj

 

 

 

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag wrote:

>

> Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

>

> Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

>

> //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

> time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

>

> There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

thousand years back. There are others also.

>

> Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

to astrologers and human kind.

>

> To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

>

> I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

Particular.

>

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Raj rajbhardwaj1949

>

> Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

> Re: snake in dream

>

>

> Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

name ony one?

>

> Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

for your teaching.

>

> Raj Bhardwaj

>

> , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear raj

> > Why are u misleading people ?

> >

> > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

> >

> > if u donot want to help stay aside.

> >

> > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one

day.

> >

> > archita

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

> >

> > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

> > Re: snake in dream

> >

> > Â

> > Dear Dev,

> > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

> > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

kisses you ??????

> >

> > Raj Bhardwaj

> >

> > , Vattem Krishnan

<bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr Dev,

> > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

in Palani.

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÂÂ

 Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers

of Mans KarmaÂÂ

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dev <vdev17@>

> > > snake in dream

> > >

> > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear astrologers:

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > Dev

> > >

> > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > >

> > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

 

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Sir,Namskaram.Very interesting.I also find some thing given in detailed way in

Varhamihira's brahat Samhita.To relate and to study implication requires

anlaytical approach.

Greta that you worked on some of these aspects that helps members and

particulalry beginners like me.Thank you veru much Sincerely

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

Re: Re: snake in dream

 

Monday, March 1, 2010, 1:06 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Krishna ji,

 

 

 

As stated earlier, only two type of dreams are considered to be of significance.

Those are that occur without any relevant connection with known circumstances

while awake. Ie: a person who lives very to forest area might be in constant

fear of snakes & wild animals. So the dreams related to such animals are not

significant.

 

 

 

However, if a otherwise normal person who does not have any such connections

Ex: who lives in metro cities and have rarely seen a snake, dreams of snakes or

wild animals, then it could signify something. If you have seen a snake in the

day time and dreamt of it, it is nothing but a reflection of the mind- what you

actually saw which got connected with your inner subconscious fears.

 

 

 

It could be illness, Satru badha(enmity) , death and in some cases even

protection. At times these dreams speak of actual afflictions in the chart of a

person. It is in fact a gift - to know ones afflictions through dreams. It is

sign to correct that affliction.

 

 

 

A few months back I had posted a real prashna case which included the

 

interpretation of dream & nimitha.

 

 

 

One should learn to interpret dreams which is easy always. In the case of dev,

his saw his friend being attacked by snake- not him. So it does not affect him

directly, but his close friends could be victimized or in danger.

 

 

 

Once I had to participate in an Ashtamangala Prashna ( a 3 day event) at a

temple supposed to that of Lord Krishna. On the early hours I dreamt of two

tigers approaching me but soon realised that they did not intend to attack me. I

woke up. Later that day during the prashna (Vrischika Aruda with Jupiter in

Lagna & Mars in the 5th) it was established that the temple originally belonged

to Durga and there is another Badra Kali also there like two sisters. The tigers

I saw were the Vahana of devi and was actually telling me about their presence

there.

 

 

 

In another incidence, a few years back I used to dream of heavy destruction by

water. In a months period, I practically lost everything during stormy rains

with winds speed at more than 100klm per hr. Off coarse, I recovered everything

much faster than thought it could be by the grace of god. It was a situation I

predicted & argued with another well known astrologer almost 3 years before the

incidence.

 

 

 

There were lot of other dreams that did not had any significance at all. It is

very tricky and sometimes very difficult also.

 

 

 

I have written this not to create a phobia and let every member start posting

their dreams on the forum, but to gently show that there could be some

significance in some of them.

 

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

 

 

Mon, March 1, 2010 10:40:39 PM

 

Re: Re: snake in dream

 

 

 

Friends,

 

what matters the timing of dreams any dream of early morning hours after2 in the

night are stated to have significance.

 

Normally Rahu's intervention as part of dasa gives dreams.Most of the dreams

reportd related to either tigers or Nagdevata.

 

Those staying near to rivers ,water logs and amid green surrroundings report

dreams seeing snakes.

 

other near temples of Goddesses and forest areas,hillocks report seeing tigers

and cubs in dreams.In some cases it if rahu in 11th house and in others 3rd

house.Also dasas conncted with Moon/Rahuu or Rahu/moon and and pratyanatar rahu

along withVenus.

 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

 

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

 

Re: snake in dream

 

 

 

Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:34 AM

 

 

 

I am not too sure what it means to have a snake in dream, but I do know

snakes(cobra ofcourse) are a big part of hindu mythology ..You see Lord Shankar

with 5 snakes wrapped around his body, even the Shiv Ling is protected by a

snake, and all time Lord Vishnu is seen lying comfortably on a bed made of

snakes..

 

 

 

Lilly

 

 

 

, dev <vdev17 wrote:

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> Dear astrologers:

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with

another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but

then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> Dev

 

 

 

> 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

 

 

 

> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to

Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

 

 

 

>

 

 

 

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Dear Krishna ji,

 

As traditional practitioners of astrology, we are supposed to learn, understand

& utilize many related branches of this divine science.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Tue, March 2, 2010 10:56:31 AM

Re: Re: snake in dream

 

 

Sir,Namskaram. Very interesting. I also find some thing given in detailed way in

Varhamihira' s brahat Samhita.To relate and to study implication requires

anlaytical approach.

Greta that you worked on some of these aspects that helps members and

particulalry beginners like me.Thank you veru much Sincerely

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

Re: Re: snake in dream

 

Monday, March 1, 2010, 1:06 PM

 

 

 

Dear Krishna ji,

 

As stated earlier, only two type of dreams are considered to be of significance.

Those are that occur without any relevant connection with known circumstances

while awake. Ie: a person who lives very to forest area might be in constant

fear of snakes & wild animals. So the dreams related to such animals are not

significant.

 

However, if a otherwise normal person who does not have any such connections

Ex: who lives in metro cities and have rarely seen a snake, dreams of snakes or

wild animals, then it could signify something. If you have seen a snake in the

day time and dreamt of it, it is nothing but a reflection of the mind- what you

actually saw which got connected with your inner subconscious fears.

 

It could be illness, Satru badha(enmity) , death and in some cases even

protection. At times these dreams speak of actual afflictions in the chart of a

person. It is in fact a gift - to know ones afflictions through dreams. It is

sign to correct that affliction.

 

A few months back I had posted a real prashna case which included the

 

interpretation of dream & nimitha.

 

One should learn to interpret dreams which is easy always. In the case of dev,

his saw his friend being attacked by snake- not him. So it does not affect him

directly, but his close friends could be victimized or in danger.

 

Once I had to participate in an Ashtamangala Prashna ( a 3 day event) at a

temple supposed to that of Lord Krishna. On the early hours I dreamt of two

tigers approaching me but soon realised that they did not intend to attack me. I

woke up. Later that day during the prashna (Vrischika Aruda with Jupiter in

Lagna & Mars in the 5th) it was established that the temple originally belonged

to Durga and there is another Badra Kali also there like two sisters. The tigers

I saw were the Vahana of devi and was actually telling me about their presence

there.

 

In another incidence, a few years back I used to dream of heavy destruction by

water. In a months period, I practically lost everything during stormy rains

with winds speed at more than 100klm per hr. Off coarse, I recovered everything

much faster than thought it could be by the grace of god. It was a situation I

predicted & argued with another well known astrologer almost 3 years before the

incidence.

 

There were lot of other dreams that did not had any significance at all. It is

very tricky and sometimes very difficult also.

 

I have written this not to create a phobia and let every member start posting

their dreams on the forum, but to gently show that there could be some

significance in some of them.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

 

 

 

Mon, March 1, 2010 10:40:39 PM

 

Re: Re: snake in dream

 

Friends,

 

what matters the timing of dreams any dream of early morning hours after2 in the

night are stated to have significance.

 

Normally Rahu's intervention as part of dasa gives dreams.Most of the dreams

reportd related to either tigers or Nagdevata.

 

Those staying near to rivers ,water logs and amid green surrroundings report

dreams seeing snakes.

 

other near temples of Goddesses and forest areas,hillocks report seeing tigers

and cubs in dreams.In some cases it if rahu in 11th house and in others 3rd

house.Also dasas conncted with Moon/Rahuu or Rahu/moon and and pratyanatar rahu

along withVenus.

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma

 

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ > wrote:

 

Lilly <tigresslilly2005@ >

 

Re: snake in dream

 

 

 

Monday, March 1, 2010, 10:34 AM

 

I am not too sure what it means to have a snake in dream, but I do know

snakes(cobra ofcourse) are a big part of hindu mythology ..You see Lord Shankar

with 5 snakes wrapped around his body, even the Shiv Ling is protected by a

snake, and all time Lord Vishnu is seen lying comfortably on a bed made of

snakes..

 

Lilly

 

, dev <vdev17 wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear astrologers:

 

>

 

> I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with

another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but

then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

 

>

 

> Dev

 

> 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

 

> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to

Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

 

>

 

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Sairam to all respected astrologers,

As the discussion is going on about the dreams, i do keep seeing snake in my

dreams. Recently, last week, i had a dream, where i saw a sher in my dream. It

was a jungle scence. And there were houses too. Suddenly a sher appears. All

were terrified at the same time, all lied down on the ground, pretending to be

dead. A lion cross by me, smelled me too and then gone back. At the same time,

another lion too comes, i was fearless that time, and was having camera (mobile)

with me. So, when he came near me, with close approxomity, i clicked a photo

with the lion, and wanted to show to my friends and others. I got up and it was

mid night - brahmamuharat, about, 3. 20 a.m. I can still remember the scene as

its happening right now. I do fear of lions.

Another dream, which often comes to me, is that, i always see myself, floating

in the air, sometimes, walking on water, sometimes in dense forest. Whenever i

see myself drawning inside water , either, lake, pond, river, sea, i always see

that i come out safely from that, though i dont know swimming. And whenever i

see this dream, i know, i wl face a problems and wl come out of this situations.

So, i get prior intution if i m into or would fall for any probs, and also i

know, that even if i m in trouble, i wl come out of that situations. This i get

assured by seeing drawning in water and again coming out from it. 

My birth details are as follow :

Myself Pushpa Kumari, 9th July, 1975 11.50 p.m. Jamshedpur, Jharkhand, India.

Lalit ji has said, my horoscope needed for discussion.

M brought up in an orphange. Though, as m told, i got mother's love and

affection, its true too, but she was not my real parents. Its like foster

parents. not legally adopted child. 

I have a question - i want to settle down in my life as i have not seen real

family life, and want to know, how it is, but at the same time, i have

inclinations towards spiritual line too.

 

Thanking you With love and regardsPushpa

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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// it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.//

//my BP and sugar, both factors were going down//

Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of

blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your

dreams more astrologically.Try to maintain your sound health and take sound

sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any

thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic

exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications.

Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Raj <rajbhardwaj1949

 

Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM

Re: snake in dream

 

 

 

Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

 

Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine.

 

In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

then draw a Prashana kundali.

 

I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

situation.

 

As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

Pandit ji.

 

Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

 

because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

failing. With all my love.

 

Raj Bhardwaj

 

, " Suresh Babu.A.G "

<sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

>

> Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

>

> //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

> time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

>

> There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

thousand years back. There are others also.

>

> Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

to astrologers and human kind.

>

> To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

>

> I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

Particular.

>

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ...

>

> Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

> Re: snake in dream

>

>

> Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

name ony one?

>

> Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

for your teaching.

>

> Raj Bhardwaj

>

> , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear raj

> > Why are u misleading people ?

> >

> > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

> >

> > if u donot want to help stay aside.

> >

> > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one

day.

> >

> > archita

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

> >

> > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

> > Re: snake in dream

> >

> > Â

> > Dear Dev,

> > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

> > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

kisses you ??????

> >

> > Raj Bhardwaj

> >

> > , Vattem Krishnan

<bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr Dev,

> > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

in Palani.

> > >

> > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÂÂ

 Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers

of Mans KarmaÂÂ

> > >

> > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dev <vdev17@>

> > > snake in dream

> > >

> > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear astrologers:

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

> > >

> > > ÂÂ

> > >

> > > Dev

> > >

> > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > >

> > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

 

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Interpretation of Dreams is a part of jyotish. But it needs the assistance of

specialized persons. For instance, Lomash Samhita has a mantra for invoking the

Goddess of Svapna to answer questions which one is unable to solve while awake,

and this obscure verse required the help of a specialist Pt Kishor Nath Jha of

Allahabad to translate. The translator of Lomash Samhita Dr Girija Shankar

Shastri of Allahabad told me so.

 

Read Yoga Vaashishtha at leisure, slowly. There are four stages of human

existence : Jaagrata, Svapna, Sushupta, Turiya. Jaagrata has two varieties :

Conscious with or without real Self-Knowledge. A person attaining real

Self-Knowledge skips Sushupta and enters into Turiya-avasthaa which is another

name for Yoga-nidra. Normal nidra is one of the five cardinal sins (klishta

vrittis of chitta) which cannot be discarded without lifelong excruciating

tapasyaa. Literally, Nidraa means ni+draa, ie looking downwards, ie looking

towards physical and material and not towards the spiritual or divine. Constant

japa and meditation helps in diluting the hold of Nidraa. At this stage of

dilution, dreams of flying come. But when one sinks down towards lower levels of

consciousness then dreams of drowning & c come. Instead of wasting time over

interpreting dreams, please try to overcome sleep and dreams.

 

According to upanishadas, there are four types of mundane existence of Soul.

First three are (1) I am nothing, everything is God, (2) I am God, (3) I am a

point or Bindu in the Ocean Which is God, ie I am a part of God, and the fourth

is (4) I am body. If a person dreams of himself / herself as a physical body, he

/ she is bound to be reborn into this martyaloka. Bujt if he / she retains a

self-knowledge in any of the first three forms, then he / she is destined for

moksha (provided this higher state of consciousness is retained till death).

 

Persons dreaming of flying body want to escape from worldliness but cannot

because of lack of proper spiritual knowledge. Proper spiritual knowledge cannot

be attained by mere reading of spiritual books, although it may help in

clarifying doubts. Read Paatanjala-yoga-pradeepa by Swami Omananda Teertha

(Gitapress Gorakhpur, Rs 75). It will help you in clearing a lot of doubts and

will also show you the practical way out.

 

-vj

===================== ===

 

, pushpa kumari <pushpa_75_99 wrote:

>

>

> Sairam to all respected astrologers,

> As the discussion is going on about the dreams, i do keep seeing snake in my

dreams. Recently, last week, i had a dream, where i saw a sher in my dream. It

was a jungle scence. And there were houses too. Suddenly a sher appears. All

were terrified at the same time, all lied down on the ground, pretending to be

dead. A lion cross by me, smelled me too and then gone back. At the same time,

another lion too comes, i was fearless that time, and was having camera (mobile)

with me. So, when he came near me, with close approxomity, i clicked a photo

with the lion, and wanted to show to my friends and others. I got up and it was

mid night - brahmamuharat, about, 3. 20 a.m. I can still remember the scene as

its happening right now. I do fear of lions.

> Another dream, which often comes to me, is that, i always see myself, floating

in the air, sometimes, walking on water, sometimes in dense forest. Whenever i

see myself drawning inside water , either, lake, pond, river, sea, i always see

that i come out safely from that, though i dont know swimming. And whenever i

see this dream, i know, i wl face a problems and wl come out of this situations.

So, i get prior intution if i m into or would fall for any probs, and also i

know, that even if i m in trouble, i wl come out of that situations. This i get

assured by seeing drawning in water and again coming out from it. 

> My birth details are as follow :

> Myself Pushpa Kumari, 9th July, 1975 11.50 p.m. Jamshedpur, Jharkhand, India.

> Lalit ji has said, my horoscope needed for discussion.

> M brought up in an orphange. Though, as m told, i got mother's love and

affection, its true too, but she was not my real parents. Its like foster

parents. not legally adopted child. 

> I have a question - i want to settle down in my life as i have not seen real

family life, and want to know, how it is, but at the same time, i have

inclinations towards spiritual line too.

>

> Thanking you With love and regardsPushpa

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Raj Ji,

 

I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world and

therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from

dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which

causes you to worry about your death.

 

-vj

================ ===

, Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

>

> // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.//

> //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down//

> Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of

blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your

dreams more astrologically.Try to maintain your sound health and take sound

sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any

thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic

exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications.

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

>  

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Raj <rajbhardwaj1949

>

> Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM

> Re: snake in dream

>

>  

>

> Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

>

> Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

> caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

> morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

> my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

> condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

> tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

> Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

> watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

> dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

> interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine.

>

> In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

> from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

> comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

> one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

> Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

> texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

> then draw a Prashana kundali.

>

> I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

> pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

> kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

> house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

> 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

> pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

> Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

> Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

> working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

> appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

> chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

> situation.

>

> As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

> number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

> Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

> lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

> Pandit ji.

>

> Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

> factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

> type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

> help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

> close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

> die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

> out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

> If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

> to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

>

> because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

> failing. With all my love.

>

> Raj Bhardwaj

>

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

> >

> > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

> create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

> in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

> >

> > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

> > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

> >

> > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

> and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

> thousand years back. There are others also.

> >

> > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

> to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

> part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

> dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

> what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

> to astrologers and human kind.

> >

> > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

> the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

> >

> > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

> dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

> situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

> Particular.

> >

> >

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ...

> >

> > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

> > Re: snake in dream

> >

> >

> > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

> God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

> during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

> name ony one?

> >

> > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

> good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

> itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

> as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

> troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

> welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

> my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

> for your teaching.

> >

> > Raj Bhardwaj

> >

> > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

> ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear raj

> > > Why are u misleading people ?

> > >

> > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

> > >

> > > if u donot want to help stay aside.

> > >

> > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one

> day.

> > >

> > > archita

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

> > >

> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

> > > Re: snake in dream

> > >

> > > Â

> > > Dear Dev,

> > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

> read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

> > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

> you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

> kisses you ??????

> > >

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

> > >

> > > , Vattem Krishnan

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Mr Dev,

> > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

> Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

> in Palani.

> > > >

> > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

> services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'‚Â

> ÃÆ'‚Â Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers

> of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚Â

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dev <vdev17@>

> > > > snake in dream

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear astrologers:

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > >

> > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

> there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

> was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

> > > >

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > >

> > > > Dev

> > > >

> > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > >

> > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

> to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Pushpa Ji and Members,It is better we move away from snakes and dreams and find

discussions more meaningfully on restlessness and anxiety.Mr Dev has raised the

issues and it was answered.His reply/feed back substantiates to all his

doubts.Where as  Pushpa Ji,recently you have addressed your concerns to the

group.The issues now raised about intution etc confuses further about dreams.In

fact dreams as  part of jyotish  has been discussed substantially.So if you

want to ask about your premonitions/intutions etc that will be dealt seperately

from the header.

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, pushpa kumari <pushpa_75_99 wrote:

 

pushpa kumari <pushpa_75_99

Re: Re: snake in dream

 

Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 12:56 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sairam to all respected astrologers,

 

As the discussion is going on about the dreams, i do keep seeing snake in my

dreams. Recently, last week, i had a dream, where i saw a sher in my dream. It

was a jungle scence. And there were houses too. Suddenly a sher appears. All

were terrified at the same time, all lied down on the ground, pretending to be

dead. A lion cross by me, smelled me too and then gone back. At the same time,

another lion too comes, i was fearless that time, and was having camera (mobile)

with me. So, when he came near me, with close approxomity, i clicked a photo

with the lion, and wanted to show to my friends and others. I got up and it was

mid night - brahmamuharat, about, 3. 20 a.m. I can still remember the scene as

its happening right now. I do fear of lions.

 

Another dream, which often comes to me, is that, i always see myself, floating

in the air, sometimes, walking on water, sometimes in dense forest. Whenever i

see myself drawning inside water , either, lake, pond, river, sea, i always see

that i come out safely from that, though i dont know swimming. And whenever i

see this dream, i know, i wl face a problems and wl come out of this situations.

So, i get prior intution if i m into or would fall for any probs, and also i

know, that even if i m in trouble, i wl come out of that situations. This i get

assured by seeing drawning in water and again coming out from it. 

 

My birth details are as follow :

 

Myself Pushpa Kumari, 9th July, 1975 11.50 p.m. Jamshedpur, Jharkhand, India.

 

Lalit ji has said, my horoscope needed for discussion.

 

M brought up in an orphange. Though, as m told, i got mother's love and

affection, its true too, but she was not my real parents. Its like foster

parents. not legally adopted child. 

 

I have a question - i want to settle down in my life as i have not seen real

family life, and want to know, how it is, but at the same time, i have

inclinations towards spiritual line too.

 

 

 

Thanking you With love and regardsPushpa

 

 

 

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All Members,I think it is necessary to move out from all these issues.Shri

Vinaya Ji advice is most appropriate to one and all as far as this subject is

concerned.Let's not add further aspersions abot snakes,dreams and so on so

forth.

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, VJha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

 

VJha <vinayjhaa16

Re: snake in dream

 

Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 2:03 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Raj Ji,

 

 

 

I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world and

therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from

dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which

causes you to worry about your death.

 

 

 

-vj

 

============ ==== ===

 

, Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

 

>

 

> // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.//

 

> //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down//

 

> Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of

blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your

dreams more astrologically. Try to maintain your sound health and take sound

sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any

thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic

exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications.

 

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

>  

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

 

>

 

> Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM

 

> Re: snake in dream

 

>

 

>  

 

>

 

> Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

 

>

 

> Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

 

> caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

 

> morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

 

> my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

 

> condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

 

> tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

 

> Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

 

> watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

 

> dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

 

> interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine.

 

>

 

> In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

 

> from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

 

> comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

 

> one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

 

> Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

 

> texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

 

> then draw a Prashana kundali.

 

>

 

> I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

 

> pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

 

> kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

 

> house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

 

> 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

 

> pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

 

> Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

 

> Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

 

> working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

 

> appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

 

> chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

 

> situation.

 

>

 

> As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

 

> number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

 

> Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

 

> lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

 

> Pandit ji.

 

>

 

> Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

 

> factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

 

> type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

 

> help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

 

> close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

 

> die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

 

> out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

 

> If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

 

> to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

 

>

 

> because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

 

> failing. With all my love.

 

>

 

> Raj Bhardwaj

 

>

 

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

 

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

 

> >

 

> > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

 

> create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

 

> in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

 

> >

 

> > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

 

> > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

 

> >

 

> > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

 

> and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

 

> thousand years back. There are others also.

 

> >

 

> > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

 

> to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

 

> part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

 

> dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

 

> what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

 

> to astrologers and human kind.

 

> >

 

> > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

 

> the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

 

> >

 

> > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

 

> dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

 

> situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

 

> Particular.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ...

 

> >

 

> > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

 

> > Re: snake in dream

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

 

> God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

 

> during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

 

> name ony one?

 

> >

 

> > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

 

> good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

 

> itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

 

> as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

 

> troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

 

> welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

 

> my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

 

> for your teaching.

 

> >

 

> > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> >

 

> > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

 

> ...> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear raj

 

> > > Why are u misleading people ?

 

> > >

 

> > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

 

> > >

 

> > > if u donot want to help stay aside.

 

> > >

 

> > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one

 

> day.

 

> > >

 

> > > archita

 

> > >

 

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

 

> > >

 

> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

 

> > > Re: snake in dream

 

> > >

 

> > > Â

 

> > > Dear Dev,

 

> > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

 

> read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

 

> > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

 

> you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

 

> kisses you ??????

 

> > >

 

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> > >

 

> > > , Vattem Krishnan

 

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Mr Dev,

 

> > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

 

> Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

 

> in Palani.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

 

> services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets

WhileÃÆ'‚Â

 

> ÃÆ'‚Â Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral

Controllers

 

> of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > dev <vdev17@>

 

> > > > snake in dream

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dear astrologers:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

 

> there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

 

> was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dev

 

> > > >

 

> > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

 

> to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

 

>

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

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I am about 38 now... still now  i am suffering extremely by rahu dasa...

at my 16.5 age... when i cycling at village sides  it happens  to see few 

snakes ........

........and once (janvary 1989) I cut one dead (middle aged !) snake's

head....!!!!

........and brought it (snake's head) with me to home...... after 2_3 days  I

throw  it away or It some what lost.... with little fear I forgot

this......very immediatly some unwanted things started in my life....... BUT

REALLY I DONT KNOW STILL TODAY.....WHAT THE HELL HAPPENING IN MY LIFE.... I dont

know  what pariharam to do to stop and to recover from these losses.... YES

ITS UNSTOPPABLE 

( i may be a very good example for those reseaching RAHU DASA !!!)

DJEGAN

0/05/1972

12:00 PM (noon)

Bangalore

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

 

 

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

Re: snake in dream

 

Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 4:53 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

All Members,I think it is necessary to move out from all these issues.Shri

Vinaya Ji advice is most appropriate to one and all as far as this subject is

concerned.Let' s not add further aspersions abot snakes,dreams and so on so

forth.

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

 

VJha <vinayjhaa16@ >

Re: snake in dream

 

Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 2:03 AM

 

 

 

Raj Ji,

 

I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world and

therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from

dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which

causes you to worry about your death.

 

-vj

 

============ ==== ===

 

, Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

 

>

 

> // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.//

 

> //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down//

 

> Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of

blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your

dreams more astrologically. Try to maintain your sound health and take sound

sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any

thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic

exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications.

 

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

>  

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

 

>

 

> Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM

 

> Re: snake in dream

 

>

 

>  

 

>

 

> Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

 

>

 

> Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

 

> caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

 

> morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

 

> my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

 

> condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

 

> tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

 

> Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

 

> watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

 

> dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

 

> interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine.

 

>

 

> In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

 

> from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

 

> comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

 

> one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

 

> Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

 

> texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

 

> then draw a Prashana kundali.

 

>

 

> I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

 

> pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

 

> kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

 

> house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

 

> 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

 

> pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

 

> Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

 

> Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

 

> working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

 

> appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

 

> chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

 

> situation.

 

>

 

> As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

 

> number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

 

> Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

 

> lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

 

> Pandit ji.

 

>

 

> Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

 

> factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

 

> type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

 

> help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

 

> close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

 

> die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

 

> out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

 

> If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

 

> to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

 

>

 

> because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

 

> failing. With all my love.

 

>

 

> Raj Bhardwaj

 

>

 

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

 

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

 

> >

 

> > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

 

> create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

 

> in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

 

> >

 

> > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

 

> > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

 

> >

 

> > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

 

> and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

 

> thousand years back. There are others also.

 

> >

 

> > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

 

> to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

 

> part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

 

> dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

 

> what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

 

> to astrologers and human kind.

 

> >

 

> > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

 

> the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

 

> >

 

> > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

 

> dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

 

> situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

 

> Particular.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ...

 

> >

 

> > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

 

> > Re: snake in dream

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

 

> God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

 

> during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

 

> name ony one?

 

> >

 

> > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

 

> good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

 

> itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

 

> as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

 

> troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

 

> welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

 

> my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

 

> for your teaching.

 

> >

 

> > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> >

 

> > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

 

> ...> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear raj

 

> > > Why are u misleading people ?

 

> > >

 

> > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

 

> > >

 

> > > if u donot want to help stay aside.

 

> > >

 

> > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one

 

> day.

 

> > >

 

> > > archita

 

> > >

 

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

 

> > >

 

> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

 

> > > Re: snake in dream

 

> > >

 

> > > Â

 

> > > Dear Dev,

 

> > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

 

> read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

 

> > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

 

> you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

 

> kisses you ??????

 

> > >

 

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> > >

 

> > > , Vattem Krishnan

 

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Mr Dev,

 

> > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

 

> Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

 

> in Palani.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

 

> services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets

WhileÃÆ'‚Â

 

> ÃÆ'‚Â Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral

Controllers

 

> of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > dev <vdev17@>

 

> > > > snake in dream

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dear astrologers:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

 

> there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

 

> was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dev

 

> > > >

 

> > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

 

> to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

 

>

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

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--- On Tue, 3/2/10, jega soupra <djega2005 wrote:

 

 

jega soupra <djega2005

Re: snake in dream

 

Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 6:01 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am about 38 now... still now  i am suffering extremely by rahu dasa...

at my 16.5 age... when i cycling at village sides  it happens  to see few 

snakes ........

........and once (janvary 1989) I cut one dead (middle aged !) snake's

head....!!!!

........and brought it (snake's head) with me to home...... after 2_3 days  I

throw  it away or It some what lost.... with little fear I forgot

this......very immediatly some unwanted things started in my life....... BUT

REALLY I DONT KNOW STILL TODAY.....WHAT THE HELL HAPPENING IN MY LIFE.... I dont

know  what pariharam to do to stop and to recover from these losses.... YES

ITS UNSTOPPABLE 

( i may be a very good example for those reseaching RAHU DASA !!!)

DJEGAN

05/05/1972

12:00 PM (noon)

Bangalore

 

 

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 > wrote:

 

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 >

Re: snake in dream

 

Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 4:53 AM

 

 

 

All Members,I think it is necessary to move out from all these issues.Shri

Vinaya Ji advice is most appropriate to one and all as far as this subject is

concerned.Let' s not add further aspersions abot snakes,dreams and so on so

forth.

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, VJha <vinayjhaa16@ > wrote:

 

VJha <vinayjhaa16@ >

Re: snake in dream

 

Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 2:03 AM

 

 

 

Raj Ji,

 

I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world and

therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from

dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which

causes you to worry about your death.

 

-vj

 

============ ==== ===

 

, Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

 

>

 

> // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.//

 

> //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down//

 

> Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of

blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your

dreams more astrologically. Try to maintain your sound health and take sound

sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any

thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic

exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications.

 

> Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

>  

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

 

>

 

> Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM

 

> Re: snake in dream

 

>

 

>  

 

>

 

> Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

 

>

 

> Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

 

> caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

 

> morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

 

> my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

 

> condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

 

> tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

 

> Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

 

> watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

 

> dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

 

> interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine.

 

>

 

> In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

 

> from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

 

> comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

 

> one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

 

> Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

 

> texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

 

> then draw a Prashana kundali.

 

>

 

> I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

 

> pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

 

> kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

 

> house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

 

> 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

 

> pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

 

> Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

 

> Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

 

> working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

 

> appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

 

> chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

 

> situation.

 

>

 

> As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

 

> number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

 

> Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

 

> lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

 

> Pandit ji.

 

>

 

> Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

 

> factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

 

> type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

 

> help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

 

> close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

 

> die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

 

> out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

 

> If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

 

> to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

 

>

 

> because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

 

> failing. With all my love.

 

>

 

> Raj Bhardwaj

 

>

 

> , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

 

> <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

 

> >

 

> > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

 

> create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

 

> in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

 

> >

 

> > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

 

> > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

 

> >

 

> > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

 

> and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

 

> thousand years back. There are others also.

 

> >

 

> > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

 

> to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

 

> part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

 

> dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

 

> what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

 

> to astrologers and human kind.

 

> >

 

> > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

 

> the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

 

> >

 

> > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

 

> dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

 

> situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

 

> Particular.

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ...

 

> >

 

> > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

 

> > Re: snake in dream

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

 

> God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

 

> during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

 

> name ony one?

 

> >

 

> > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

 

> good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

 

> itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

 

> as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

 

> troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

 

> welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

 

> my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

 

> for your teaching.

 

> >

 

> > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> >

 

> > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

 

> ...> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear raj

 

> > > Why are u misleading people ?

 

> > >

 

> > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

 

> > >

 

> > > if u donot want to help stay aside.

 

> > >

 

> > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one

 

> day.

 

> > >

 

> > > archita

 

> > >

 

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

 

> > >

 

> > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

 

> > > Re: snake in dream

 

> > >

 

> > > Â

 

> > > Dear Dev,

 

> > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

 

> read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

 

> > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

 

> you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

 

> kisses you ??????

 

> > >

 

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> > >

 

> > > , Vattem Krishnan

 

> <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Mr Dev,

 

> > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

 

> Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

 

> in Palani.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

 

> services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets

WhileÃÆ'‚Â

 

> ÃÆ'‚Â Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral

Controllers

 

> of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > dev <vdev17@>

 

> > > > snake in dream

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dear astrologers:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

 

> there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

 

> was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dev

 

> > > >

 

> > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

 

> to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

 

>

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

 

> > > >

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Dear Vinay Ji and Misra Ji,

 

Vinay Ji, I feel good to see you back after your fruitful tour. Thanks for your

thoughts. Misra Ji, Thanks to you also for giving practical advice,which is well

taken by me. I will love to add here that I am not losing sleep over this issue,

really. I have seen the toughest times and death like situations in the past

too, right from my childhood. I am very confident that this situation, if it

realy shows up, will be overcome by my Scorpian lagna ,Capricorn Moon and AK

Sun..... And dear Rohini will understand this . Dear Rohini, you may like to add

10:05 in the Shukla Navami.With my best regards, and I look forward to more and

more of learning.

 

Raj Bhardwaj

 

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Raj Ji,

>

> I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world

and therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from

dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which

causes you to worry about your death.

>

> -vj

> ================ ===

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra@> wrote:

> >

> > // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.//

> > //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down//

> > Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of

blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your

dreams more astrologically.Try to maintain your sound health and take sound

sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any

thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic

exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications.

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@>

> >

> > Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM

> > Re: snake in dream

> >

> >  

> >

> > Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

> >

> > Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

> > caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

> > morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

> > my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

> > condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

> > tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

> > Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

> > watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

> > dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

> > interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine.

> >

> > In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

> > from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

> > comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

> > one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

> > Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

> > texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

> > then draw a Prashana kundali.

> >

> > I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

> > pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

> > kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

> > house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

> > 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

> > pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

> > Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

> > Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

> > working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

> > appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

> > chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

> > situation.

> >

> > As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

> > number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

> > Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

> > lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

> > Pandit ji.

> >

> > Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

> > factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

> > type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

> > help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

> > close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

> > die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

> > out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

> > If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

> > to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

> >

> > because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

> > failing. With all my love.

> >

> > Raj Bhardwaj

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

> > >

> > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

> > create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

> > in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

> > >

> > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

> > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

> > >

> > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

> > and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

> > thousand years back. There are others also.

> > >

> > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

> > to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

> > part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

> > dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

> > what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

> > to astrologers and human kind.

> > >

> > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

> > the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

> > >

> > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

> > dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

> > situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

> > Particular.

> > >

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ...

> > >

> > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

> > > Re: snake in dream

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

> > God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

> > during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

> > name ony one?

> > >

> > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

> > good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

> > itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

> > as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

> > troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

> > welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

> > my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

> > for your teaching.

> > >

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

> > >

> > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

> > ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear raj

> > > > Why are u misleading people ?

> > > >

> > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

> > > >

> > > > if u donot want to help stay aside.

> > > >

> > > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one

> > day.

> > > >

> > > > archita

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

> > > > Re: snake in dream

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > > Dear Dev,

> > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

> > read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

> > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

> > you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

> > kisses you ??????

> > > >

> > > > Raj Bhardwaj

> > > >

> > > > , Vattem Krishnan

> > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr Dev,

> > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

> > Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

> > in Palani.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

> > services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets WhileÃÆ'‚Â

> > ÃÆ'‚Â Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are neutral Controllers

> > of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dev <vdev17@>

> > > > > snake in dream

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear astrologers:

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

> > there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

> > was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Dev

> > > > >

> > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > > >

> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

> > to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

> >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Shri Bhardwaj Ji,

It is time we forget  the topic of snakes and dreams.we are interested in your

health. and pray to the Almighty for your recovery.As a very senior astrologer

you know several things.So we close the topic hereitself on the above caption as

suggested by Shri Mishra Ji,Jha Ji and even Shri Suresh Ji.

with regards

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Raj <rajbhardwaj1949 wrote:

 

Raj <rajbhardwaj1949

Re: snake in dream

 

Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 11:12 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Vinay Ji and Misra Ji,

 

 

 

Vinay Ji, I feel good to see you back after your fruitful tour. Thanks for your

thoughts. Misra Ji, Thanks to you also for giving practical advice,which is well

taken by me. I will love to add here that I am not losing sleep over this issue,

really. I have seen the toughest times and death like situations in the past

too, right from my childhood. I am very confident that this situation, if it

realy shows up, will be overcome by my Scorpian lagna ,Capricorn Moon and AK

Sun..... And dear Rohini will understand this . Dear Rohini, you may like to add

10:05 in the Shukla Navami.With my best regards, and I look forward to more and

more of learning.

 

 

 

Raj Bhardwaj

 

 

 

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Raj Ji,

 

>

 

> I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world

and therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from

dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which

causes you to worry about your death.

 

>

 

> -vj

 

> ============ ==== ===

 

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra @> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.//

 

> > //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down//

 

> > Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of

blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your

dreams more astrologically. Try to maintain your sound health and take sound

sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any

thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic

exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications.

 

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

> >  

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ >

 

> >

 

> > Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM

 

> > Re: snake in dream

 

> >

 

> >  

 

> >

 

> > Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

 

> >

 

> > Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

 

> > caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

 

> > morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

 

> > my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

 

> > condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

 

> > tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

 

> > Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

 

> > watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

 

> > dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

 

> > interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine.

 

> >

 

> > In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

 

> > from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

 

> > comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

 

> > one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

 

> > Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

 

> > texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

 

> > then draw a Prashana kundali.

 

> >

 

> > I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

 

> > pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

 

> > kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

 

> > house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

 

> > 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

 

> > pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

 

> > Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

 

> > Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

 

> > working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

 

> > appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

 

> > chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

 

> > situation.

 

> >

 

> > As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

 

> > number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

 

> > Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

 

> > lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

 

> > Pandit ji.

 

> >

 

> > Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

 

> > factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

 

> > type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

 

> > help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

 

> > close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

 

> > die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

 

> > out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

 

> > If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

 

> > to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

 

> >

 

> > because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

 

> > failing. With all my love.

 

> >

 

> > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> >

 

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

 

> > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

 

> > >

 

> > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

 

> > create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

 

> > in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

 

> > >

 

> > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

 

> > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

 

> > >

 

> > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

 

> > and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

 

> > thousand years back. There are others also.

 

> > >

 

> > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

 

> > to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

 

> > part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

 

> > dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

 

> > what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

 

> > to astrologers and human kind.

 

> > >

 

> > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

 

> > the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

 

> > >

 

> > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

 

> > dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

 

> > situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

 

> > Particular.

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ...

 

> > >

 

> > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

 

> > > Re: snake in dream

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

 

> > God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

 

> > during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

 

> > name ony one?

 

> > >

 

> > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

 

> > good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

 

> > itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

 

> > as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

 

> > troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

 

> > welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

 

> > my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

 

> > for your teaching.

 

> > >

 

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> > >

 

> > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

 

> > ...> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dear raj

 

> > > > Why are u misleading people ?

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

 

> > > >

 

> > > > if u donot want to help stay aside.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one

 

> > day.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > archita

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

 

> > > > Re: snake in dream

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Â

 

> > > > Dear Dev,

 

> > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

 

> > read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

 

> > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

 

> > you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

 

> > kisses you ??????

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> > > >

 

> > > > , Vattem Krishnan

 

> > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Mr Dev,

 

> > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

 

> > Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

 

> > in Palani.

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

 

> > services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets

WhileÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > ÃÆ'‚Â Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers

 

> > of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > dev <vdev17@>

 

> > > > > snake in dream

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Dear astrologers:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

 

> > there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

 

> > was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Dev

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

 

> > to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

 

> >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

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Dear Raj ji ,

 

I have not cursed u i only said not to hurt or tease others as this harms

oneself only , but this is true that i asked lord Krsna and balaram

(Sheshnaag) for help.

Nothing will happen to u BUT i am not saying beacuase of any power  

 

i do NOT  have any powers as me and my husband are Parcticles of dust of

servents of lord.noyhing more than that,

 

Intelligent people like u are needed in society.

 

so i just pray to my Kurma and govinda shaligram shila which is protector of our

family to nullify

all your problems to zero.

 

also i beg apology from members of this site if i did anything wrong.

 

GOD BLESS TO ALL MEMBERS.

Archita

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Raj <rajbhardwaj1949

 

Tue, March 2, 2010 9:42:01 PM

Re: snake in dream

 

 

Dear Vinay Ji and Misra Ji,

 

Vinay Ji, I feel good to see you back after your fruitful tour. Thanks for your

thoughts. Misra Ji, Thanks to you also for giving practical advice,which is well

taken by me. I will love to add here that I am not losing sleep over this issue,

really. I have seen the toughest times and death like situations in the past

too, right from my childhood. I am very confident that this situation, if it

realy shows up, will be overcome by my Scorpian lagna ,Capricorn Moon and AK

Sun..... And dear Rohini will understand this . Dear Rohini, you may like to add

10:05 in the Shukla Navami.With my best regards, and I look forward to more and

more of learning.

 

Raj Bhardwaj

 

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

>

> Raj Ji,

>

> I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world

and therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from

dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which

causes you to worry about your death.

>

> -vj

> ============ ==== ===

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra @> wrote:

> >

> > // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.//

> > //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down//

> > Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of

blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your

dreams more astrologically. Try to maintain your sound health and take sound

sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any

thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic

exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications.

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ >

> >

> > Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM

> > Re: snake in dream

> >

> >  

> >

> > Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

> >

> > Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

> > caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

> > morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

> > my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

> > condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

> > tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

> > Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

> > watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

> > dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

> > interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine.

> >

> > In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

> > from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

> > comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

> > one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

> > Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

> > texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

> > then draw a Prashana kundali.

> >

> > I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

> > pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

> > kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

> > house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

> > 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

> > pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

> > Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

> > Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

> > working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

> > appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

> > chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

> > situation.

> >

> > As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

> > number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

> > Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

> > lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

> > Pandit ji.

> >

> > Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

> > factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

> > type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

> > help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

> > close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

> > die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

> > out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

> > If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

> > to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

> >

> > because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

> > failing. With all my love.

> >

> > Raj Bhardwaj

> >

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

> > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

> > >

> > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

> > create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

> > in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

> > >

> > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

> > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

> > >

> > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

> > and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

> > thousand years back. There are others also.

> > >

> > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

> > to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

> > part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

> > dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

> > what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

> > to astrologers and human kind.

> > >

> > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

> > the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

> > >

> > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

> > dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

> > situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

> > Particular.

> > >

> > >

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ...

> > >

> > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

> > > Re: snake in dream

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

> > God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

> > during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

> > name ony one?

> > >

> > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

> > good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

> > itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

> > as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

> > troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

> > welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

> > my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

> > for your teaching.

> > >

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

> > >

> > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

> > ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear raj

> > > > Why are u misleading people ?

> > > >

> > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

> > > >

> > > > if u donot want to help stay aside.

> > > >

> > > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one

> > day.

> > > >

> > > > archita

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

> > > >

> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

> > > > Re: snake in dream

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > > Dear Dev,

> > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

> > read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

> > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

> > you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

> > kisses you ??????

> > > >

> > > > Raj Bhardwaj

> > > >

> > > > , Vattem Krishnan

> > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr Dev,

> > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

> > Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

> > in Palani.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

> > services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets

WhileÃÆ'‚Â

> > ÃÆ'‚Â Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers

> > of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dev <vdev17@>

> > > > > snake in dream

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear astrologers:

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

> > there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

> > was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Dev

> > > > >

> > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > > > >

> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

> > to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

> >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Raj ji

 

If u havent got my message i am saying this again

 

I have not cursed u but only said if we hurt or tease others than that problem

sometimes shifts to us .

 

I do not have any power i am very small bhakt nothing else

 

but me and my husband  pray  to lord krsna and ananta to finish all ur

problems. 

 

may lord listens to all prayers of Jyotish Members here who are worried for u .

 

shree anantaye namah

shree krishnaye namah

 

ARCHITA

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99

 

Tue, March 2, 2010 10:04:30 PM

Re: snake in dream

 

 

Dear Shri Bhardwaj Ji,

It is time we forget  the topic of snakes and dreams.we are interested in your

health. and pray to the Almighty for your recovery.As a very senior astrologer

you know several things.So we close the topic hereitself on the above caption as

suggested by Shri Mishra Ji,Jha Ji and even Shri Suresh Ji.

with regards

 

Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

 

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ .co. in> wrote:

 

Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ .co. in>

Re: snake in dream

 

Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 11:12 AM

 

 

 

Dear Vinay Ji and Misra Ji,

 

Vinay Ji, I feel good to see you back after your fruitful tour. Thanks for your

thoughts. Misra Ji, Thanks to you also for giving practical advice,which is well

taken by me. I will love to add here that I am not losing sleep over this issue,

really. I have seen the toughest times and death like situations in the past

too, right from my childhood. I am very confident that this situation, if it

realy shows up, will be overcome by my Scorpian lagna ,Capricorn Moon and AK

Sun..... And dear Rohini will understand this . Dear Rohini, you may like to add

10:05 in the Shukla Navami.With my best regards, and I look forward to more and

more of learning.

 

Raj Bhardwaj

 

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@ ...> wrote:

 

>

 

> Raj Ji,

 

>

 

> I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world

and therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from

dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which

causes you to worry about your death.

 

>

 

> -vj

 

> ============ ==== ===

 

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra @> wrote:

 

> >

 

> > // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.//

 

> > //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down//

 

> > Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of

blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your

dreams more astrologically. Try to maintain your sound health and take sound

sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any

thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic

exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications.

 

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

 

> >  

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> >

 

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ >

 

> >

 

> > Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM

 

> > Re: snake in dream

 

> >

 

> >  

 

> >

 

> > Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

 

> >

 

> > Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

 

> > caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

 

> > morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

 

> > my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

 

> > condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

 

> > tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

 

> > Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

 

> > watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

 

> > dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

 

> > interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine.

 

> >

 

> > In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

 

> > from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

 

> > comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

 

> > one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

 

> > Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

 

> > texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

 

> > then draw a Prashana kundali.

 

> >

 

> > I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

 

> > pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

 

> > kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

 

> > house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

 

> > 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

 

> > pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

 

> > Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

 

> > Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

 

> > working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

 

> > appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

 

> > chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

 

> > situation.

 

> >

 

> > As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

 

> > number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

 

> > Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

 

> > lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

 

> > Pandit ji.

 

> >

 

> > Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

 

> > factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

 

> > type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

 

> > help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

 

> > close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

 

> > die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

 

> > out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

 

> > If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

 

> > to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

 

> >

 

> > because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

 

> > failing. With all my love.

 

> >

 

> > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> >

 

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

 

> > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

 

> > >

 

> > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

 

> > create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

 

> > in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

 

> > >

 

> > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

 

> > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

 

> > >

 

> > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

 

> > and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

 

> > thousand years back. There are others also.

 

> > >

 

> > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

 

> > to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

 

> > part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

 

> > dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

 

> > what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

 

> > to astrologers and human kind.

 

> > >

 

> > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

 

> > the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

 

> > >

 

> > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

 

> > dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

 

> > situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

 

> > Particular.

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ...

 

> > >

 

> > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

 

> > > Re: snake in dream

 

> > >

 

> > >

 

> > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

 

> > God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

 

> > during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

 

> > name ony one?

 

> > >

 

> > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

 

> > good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

 

> > itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

 

> > as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

 

> > troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

 

> > welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

 

> > my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

 

> > for your teaching.

 

> > >

 

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> > >

 

> > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

 

> > ...> wrote:

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dear raj

 

> > > > Why are u misleading people ?

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

 

> > > >

 

> > > > if u donot want to help stay aside.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > making fun of others feeling  will make urself in trouble one

 

> > day.

 

> > > >

 

> > > > archita

 

> > > >

 

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

 

> > > > Re: snake in dream

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Â

 

> > > > Dear Dev,

 

> > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

 

> > read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

 

> > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

 

> > you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

 

> > kisses you ??????

 

> > > >

 

> > > > Raj Bhardwaj

 

> > > >

 

> > > > , Vattem Krishnan

 

> > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Mr Dev,

 

> > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

 

> > Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

 

> > in Palani.

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

 

> > services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets

WhileÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > ÃÆ'‚Â Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers

 

> > of Mans KarmaÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > dev <vdev17@>

 

> > > > > snake in dream

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

 

> > > > >

 

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> > > > >

 

> > > > > Dear astrologers:

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

 

> > there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

 

> > was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > ÃÆ'‚Â

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Dev

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

 

> > to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

 

> >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

> > > > >

 

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The serpant is a very powerful symbol in the deep layers of human psyche of ALL

cultures and Times! Scorpio and the 8th house are its home in the chart. Rahu

and Ketu are its executive symbols and determine whether the snake is

'contained' or running loose in the chart.

 

When mars rises in scorpio, for instance, there is an in-built protection that

is accorded to such an individual, possibly due to past good karmas. A further

'booster-dose' of karmic protection can be enjoyed by helping from time to time

others who have fallen in a karmic pit and can be served through being hoisted

out of randhra.

 

Astrology is a wonderful rope that can be utilized to help people climb out of

the randhra, also known as Hades -- the mythologic home of Pluto in western

mythology.

 

What the world needs is more Healing Energy, for us ALL!

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99 wrote:

>

> All Members,I think it is necessary to move out from all these issues.Shri

Vinaya Ji advice is most appropriate to one and all as far as this subject is

concerned.Let's not add further aspersions abot snakes,dreams and so on so

forth.

>

> Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

services)Dr.B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control

Them " Planets are neutral Controllers of Mans Karma 

>

> --- On Tue, 3/2/10, VJha <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> VJha <vinayjhaa16

> Re: snake in dream

>

> Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 2:03 AM

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>

Raj Ji,

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>

>

> I don't think anyone has cursed you. We need persons like you in this world

and therefore I request you to keep away from not only real snakes but also from

dreams of snakes as well as from threads about snakes in internet fora which

causes you to worry about your death.

>

>

>

> -vj

>

> ============ ==== ===

>

> , Dhirendra Nath Misra

<dhirendranathmisra wrote:

>

> >

>

> > // it appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent.//

>

> > //my BP and sugar, both factors were going down//

>

> > Dear Raj,By taking suitable medications regularly keep your B.P and level of

blood sugar normal and then every thing will be O.k.Don't try to analyse your

dreams more astrologically. Try to maintain your sound health and take sound

sleep at least for 6 hours and then you will not dream of snake or any

thing.Walking or light exercise is beneficial for thin people and calisthenic

exercise is harmful for those who are taking medications.

>

> > Dhirendra Nath Misra

>

> >  

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> >

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> > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

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> >

>

> > Tue, March 2, 2010 10:54:35 AM

>

> > Re: snake in dream

>

> >

>

> >  

>

> >

>

> > Dear Archita and Suresh Bibu,,

>

> >

>

> > Dear Archita, I did not know that you have so much powers that when you

>

> > caution or curse someone, it happens so quickly. On 1 March (early

>

> > morning) I started feeling uneasy and lifeless. Family members checked

>

> > my BP and sugar, both factors were going down. After medication, my

>

> > condition was stable and I came home by 5 PM,with advice to rest. After

>

> > tiring day in hospital, I slept and had a dream of a pair of Nag and

>

> > Nagin, busy in their dance of passion. There was huge rush of people to

>

> > watch them hissing and almost flying, coiled tightly with each other.The

>

> > dream must have been for a duration of about 5-6 minutes but it was

>

> > interrupted, as my wife ws to give me medicine.

>

> >

>

> > In the night I had some strength and opened my computer and read mail

>

> > from Suresh Bibu and few other friends on the subject. I read the

>

> > comments of Suresh- " To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas "

>

> > one has to grow beyond the text books & particularly that of

>

> > Horashastras " . I take it that in such a situation while going beyond

>

> > texts, we should fall back upon the dreams. It is only then that we can

>

> > then draw a Prashana kundali.

>

> >

>

> > I recollected the time of my dream and it must have occurred between 7

>

> > pm to 7-10. So I took the meantime of 7:5 PM and drew the Prshana

>

> > kundali. It was fascinating to see the 12th house. Lagnesh Sun in 7th

>

> > house with Jup,Mer,Ven, - 9th lord Mar debilitated and retro in 12th,

>

> > 12th lord Moon in lagna, 6th and 7th lord Sat retro in 2nd house. Rashi

>

> > pratyavartan between 2nd and 7th lord. Rahu in 5th. 8th lord Jup in

>

> > Vyaya bhava 7th. Neech Mars has drishti on 3rd, 6th and 7th house.

>

> > Saturn has drishti on 4th , 8th and 11th house. Everything negative ! On

>

> > working out the Ayur from the prashana lagna and it's navamsha, it

>

> > appeared clearly to me that my death is imminent. I opened my birth

>

> > chart and juxtaposed with my current dashas, and it confirmed death like

>

> > situation.

>

> >

>

> > As I am not well and also short of money, I cannot afford travel to a

>

> > number of places indicated by jyotishis like go for parikrama of

>

> > Govardhan parvat. I also do not have money to call for pandits for 11

>

> > lakh japa of Mahamrityunjaya japa and yagya, as suggested by the local

>

> > Pandit ji.

>

> >

>

> > Therefore from all the visible factors and my financial and health

>

> > factors, it is foregone conclusion that my death is imminent. I am the

>

> > type of person, who will rather like to die than to ask any financial

>

> > help from friends and relatives. I have shared the situation with my

>

> > close friend, and requested him to post a message on the group, when I

>

> > die with relevant details of the death for jyotishis to make something

>

> > out of this whole episode. But, I have a little hope from dear Archita.

>

> > If you have powers to give effective curse do you also have some power

>

> > to make it ineffective ? Perhaps some hope that for a dying jyotishi ,

>

> >

>

> > because miracles do happen still , when everything else seems to be

>

> > failing. With all my love.

>

> >

>

> > Raj Bhardwaj

>

> >

>

> > , " Suresh Babu.A.G "

>

> > <sureshbabuag@ ...> wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear Raj Bahadur & others,

>

> > >

>

> > > Though it is not my intention to interfere in this exchange or to

>

> > create fear psychosis in anything and every thing a person goes through

>

> > in day to day life, I cannot help notice your comment

>

> > >

>

> > > //Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or during your part

>

> > > time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just name ony one? //

>

> > >

>

> > > There are many scriptures that has provided detailed account of dreams

>

> > and their significance. One of them is Prashna Marga written about a

>

> > thousand years back. There are others also.

>

> > >

>

> > > Now if you study carefully, dreams are studied as part of Nimitha etc

>

> > to indicate some outcome. This is only one use . Study of dreams is also

>

> > part of Medicine - Both Ayurveda & Homeopathy. In fact this linking of

>

> > dreams with medical condition and tripartite agreement with planets is

>

> > what makes its study more useful with regard to Astrology & interesting

>

> > to astrologers and human kind.

>

> > >

>

> > > To understand & " feel " " Nimithas " & " lalshanas " one has to grow beyond

>

> > the text books & particularly that of Horashastras.

>

> > >

>

> > > I shall make a suggestion: next time when some tells about their

>

> > dreams, take a prashna (udaya lagna is enough) and try to analyse the

>

> > situation and provide your opinion. Look at the 12th house in

>

> > Particular.

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> > >

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> > >

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> > >

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> > >

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> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > > Raj rajbhardwaj1949@ ...

>

> > >

>

> > > Sun, February 28, 2010 7:48:06 PM

>

> > > Re: snake in dream

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Dear Teacher Archita Khera,Karan Kumari...I will take your curse as

>

> > God's blesings. Which scripture is taught by you in your school, or

>

> > during your part time jyotish learning, about the dreams , please just

>

> > name ony one?

>

> > >

>

> > > Do you also dream and would you like to share, if you ever had any

>

> > good/ill/bad efect after the dream,in the mornings or in the night

>

> > itself ? If so, can you also give explanatory notes ? Now don't take it

>

> > as fun of any of your feelings. As it is, I have been facing only

>

> > troubles,since my birth, so any fresh trouble/curse from anyone is a

>

> > welcome addition in my vast treasure of bad karmas.I can only send you

>

> > my love and best wishes, because I have never cursed anyone.Shall wait

>

> > for your teaching.

>

> > >

>

> > > Raj Bhardwaj

>

> > >

>

> > > , Karan Kumari <architakhera@

>

> > ...> wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Dear raj

>

> > > > Why are u misleading people ?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

>

> > > >

>

> > > > if u donot want to help stay aside.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > making fun of others feeling ÃÆ'‚ will make urself in trouble one

>

> > day.

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> > > >

>

> > > > archita

>

> > > >

>

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> > > > Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ ...>

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

>

> > > > Re: snake in dream

>

> > > >

>

> > > > ÃÆ'‚

>

> > > > Dear Dev,

>

> > > > Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't

>

> > read too much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

>

> > > > Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps

>

> > you,someone gives you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone

>

> > kisses you ??????

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Raj Bhardwaj

>

> > > >

>

> > > > , Vattem Krishnan

>

> > <bursar_99@ ..> wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Mr Dev,

>

> > > > > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan

>

> > Parikrama.In case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple

>

> > in Palani.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling

>

> > services)Dr. B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets

WhileÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

>

> > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers

>

> > of Mans KarmaÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > dev <vdev17@>

>

> > > > > snake in dream

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

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> > > > > Dear astrologers:

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> > > > >

>

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was

>

> > there with another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I

>

> > was frightened but then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Dev

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go

>

> > to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

>

> >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

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Thanks for sharing Vinay_ji. A question, if I may: In --

 

" (1) I am nothing, everything is God "

 

There is a bit of ambiguity, I think. If everything is God why remains the sense

of " I " even as a 'nothing'?

 

Residual awareness after all those 'human lifetimes', perhaps??

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, " VJha " <vinayjhaa16 wrote:

>

> Interpretation of Dreams is a part of jyotish. But it needs the assistance of

specialized persons. For instance, Lomash Samhita has a mantra for invoking the

Goddess of Svapna to answer questions which one is unable to solve while awake,

and this obscure verse required the help of a specialist Pt Kishor Nath Jha of

Allahabad to translate. The translator of Lomash Samhita Dr Girija Shankar

Shastri of Allahabad told me so.

>

> Read Yoga Vaashishtha at leisure, slowly. There are four stages of human

existence : Jaagrata, Svapna, Sushupta, Turiya. Jaagrata has two varieties :

Conscious with or without real Self-Knowledge. A person attaining real

Self-Knowledge skips Sushupta and enters into Turiya-avasthaa which is another

name for Yoga-nidra. Normal nidra is one of the five cardinal sins (klishta

vrittis of chitta) which cannot be discarded without lifelong excruciating

tapasyaa. Literally, Nidraa means ni+draa, ie looking downwards, ie looking

towards physical and material and not towards the spiritual or divine. Constant

japa and meditation helps in diluting the hold of Nidraa. At this stage of

dilution, dreams of flying come. But when one sinks down towards lower levels of

consciousness then dreams of drowning & c come. Instead of wasting time over

interpreting dreams, please try to overcome sleep and dreams.

>

> According to upanishadas, there are four types of mundane existence of Soul.

First three are (1) I am nothing, everything is God, (2) I am God, (3) I am a

point or Bindu in the Ocean Which is God, ie I am a part of God, and the fourth

is (4) I am body. If a person dreams of himself / herself as a physical body, he

/ she is bound to be reborn into this martyaloka. Bujt if he / she retains a

self-knowledge in any of the first three forms, then he / she is destined for

moksha (provided this higher state of consciousness is retained till death).

>

> Persons dreaming of flying body want to escape from worldliness but cannot

because of lack of proper spiritual knowledge. Proper spiritual knowledge cannot

be attained by mere reading of spiritual books, although it may help in

clarifying doubts. Read Paatanjala-yoga-pradeepa by Swami Omananda Teertha

(Gitapress Gorakhpur, Rs 75). It will help you in clearing a lot of doubts and

will also show you the practical way out.

>

> -vj

> ===================== ===

>

> , pushpa kumari <pushpa_75_99@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Sairam to all respected astrologers,

> > As the discussion is going on about the dreams, i do keep seeing snake in my

dreams. Recently, last week, i had a dream, where i saw a sher in my dream. It

was a jungle scence. And there were houses too. Suddenly a sher appears. All

were terrified at the same time, all lied down on the ground, pretending to be

dead. A lion cross by me, smelled me too and then gone back. At the same time,

another lion too comes, i was fearless that time, and was having camera (mobile)

with me. So, when he came near me, with close approxomity, i clicked a photo

with the lion, and wanted to show to my friends and others. I got up and it was

mid night - brahmamuharat, about, 3. 20 a.m. I can still remember the scene as

its happening right now. I do fear of lions.

> > Another dream, which often comes to me, is that, i always see myself,

floating in the air, sometimes, walking on water, sometimes in dense

forest. Whenever i see myself drawning inside water , either, lake, pond, river,

sea, i always see that i come out safely from that, though i dont know swimming.

And whenever i see this dream, i know, i wl face a problems and wl come out of

this situations. So, i get prior intution if i m into or would fall for any

probs, and also i know, that even if i m in trouble, i wl come out of that

situations. This i get assured by seeing drawning in water and again coming out

from it. 

> > My birth details are as follow :

> > Myself Pushpa Kumari, 9th July, 1975 11.50 p.m. Jamshedpur, Jharkhand,

India.

> > Lalit ji has said, my horoscope needed for discussion.

> > M brought up in an orphange. Though, as m told, i got mother's love and

affection, its true too, but she was not my real parents. Its like foster

parents. not legally adopted child. 

> > I have a question - i want to settle down in my life as i have not seen real

family life, and want to know, how it is, but at the same time, i have

inclinations towards spiritual line too.

> >

> > Thanking you With love and regardsPushpa

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Hi, RR Ji.

 

In regards to your comment, regarding this subject. I just have to say, it is

proven that every religion has special meaning when it comes to dreams of

serpants, scorpians, snakes. Look at the mayan culture and the early Egyptian,

Greek, Chinese and Roman culture. When you look at ancient history, and review

the heiroglyphics, serpants were very important in the early ages of time and

mankind.

 

Animals, in general, were revered or abhorred. Snakes or serpants, since the

beginning of time, have always had significance in every culture in some way,

shape or form. There have medicinal and remedial effects created to fix the dire

suffering from this. Egyptian cultures worshipped cats and thought it was a bad

omen, if you

killed one. Just recently in the news, they did a story on how they

found a cat temple in Alexandria, ancient Egypt.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/jan/19/egypt-cat-god-temple-bastet

 

 

Although, I am sikh, married to a man from a different culture, who is very

open-minded in the differences of the cultures and accepts that although there

are differences in the religions, the basic fundamentals are the same. The

omnipresent.

 

Astrology has a link to both the religion as well as daily interactions of

having your spiritual, emotional and physical being conjoined to meet with the

Omnipresent. That is why we end up in our latter days, after having to go

through a midlife crisis, becoming more spiritual with the hopes of going to our

maker and have our karma justified.

 

People genuinely ask astrologers to make us whole as a person and to end our

sufferings so we can feel better, in the spiritual, metaphyisical and emotional

way. WE want to be healed from our suffering

 

There are great Muslim, Jewish, Catholic/Christian, and Sikh

spiritualists/healers. (i,e. who have faith in astrology and the power it

brings-predictive or not. It is a true blessing. (i.e. Sant Isher Singh,

predicted his own death and was a great spiritual healer who people revered from

all over the world Nostradamus predicted WWI, II and 09/11. Mayan Astrology, and

there is Chinese Feng Shui). In all these cases, studies have shown astrology is

about healing, which these people were noted. Any epic stories, you hear all

noblemen went to astrologers to predict what would happen in their lives, and

did not do anything without their astrologers advise of yay or nay. Of course,

people were killed over this too, i.e. Salem Witch hunt.

 

Bottom line, dreams can help us to know what is going in our lives. Therefore,

both astrology and dreams are simultaneous predictors of what is going through

our life and ultimately deals with how can we as a human being heal our lives to

get the next stage.

 

Sorry for the long book, but I concur with KrishnanJi talking about the same

thing over and over again..is really not that educational.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Param Kaur Grewal-Iqbal

 

 

 

 

________________________________

rohinicrystal <jyotish_vani

 

Tue, March 2, 2010 4:48:31 PM

Re: snake in dream

 

 

Paramjit_jee,

 

Please do not think of this question as an expression of flippancy, but if this

were indeed true, Muslims, Christians, Jews and possibly a few other religious

types would never dream of serpants!

 

I am afraid, we might have to dig deeper than merely religious symbols of one

religion (dominant as it may be in this world or at least this forum) in order

to really explore and understand Randhra: The home of the Serpant Symbol!

 

Regards,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

, Param Iqbal <param530@.. .> wrote:

>

> I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji.

Therefore, when I used to have these dreams. It was recommended I go to to pray

to Lord Shiva at a temple, and pour milk on him and ask for his guidance and I

did.

>

>

> Kind Regards,

>

> Param Kaur Iqbal

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Karan Kumari <architakhera@ ...>

>

> Sat, February 27, 2010 11:30:52 PM

> Re: snake in dream

>

>

> Dear raj

> Why are u misleading people ?

>

> Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

>

> if u donot want to help stay aside.

>

> making fun of others feeling will make urself in trouble one day.

>

> archita

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ .co. in>

>

> Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

> Re: snake in dream

>

>

> Dear Dev,

> Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too

much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

> Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives

you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ??????

>

> Raj Bhardwaj

>

> , Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@ ..>

wrote:

> >

> > Mr Dev,

> > Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In

case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani.

> >

> > Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets

are neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÂ

> >

> > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17@> wrote:

> >

> > dev <vdev17@>

> > snake in dream

> >

> > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear astrologers:

> >

> > Â

> >

> > I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with

another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but

then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

> >

> > Â

> >

> > Dev

> >

> > 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> >

> > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to

Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

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Dear One

Take little more cautions, a snake in dream may also refer to deceiving by some

one near to you or to be specific some one near to you may harm you or cheat you

in near future

 

--- On Sun, 28/2/10, Param Iqbal <param530 wrote:

 

 

Param Iqbal <param530

Re: snake in dream

 

Sunday, 28 February, 2010, 10:50 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji.

Therefore, when I used to have these dreams. It was recommended I go to to pray

to Lord Shiva at a temple, and pour milk on him and ask for his guidance and I

did.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Param Kaur Iqbal

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Karan Kumari <architakhera@ >

 

Sat, February 27, 2010 11:30:52 PM

Re: snake in dream

 

Dear raj

Why are u misleading people ?

 

Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

 

if u donot want to help stay aside.

 

making fun of others feeling will make urself in trouble one day.

 

archita

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ .co. in>

 

Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

Re: snake in dream

 

Dear Dev,

Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too

much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives

you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ??????

 

Raj Bhardwaj

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

>

> Mr Dev,

> Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In

case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani.

>

> Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÂ

>

> --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17 wrote:

>

> dev <vdev17

> snake in dream

>

> Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

>

Â

>

>

>

Dear astrologers:

>

> Â

>

> I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with

another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but

then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

>

> Â

>

> Dev

>

> 1-2-62 2.30am New Delhi

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

>

> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to

Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.

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Osho : Why the serpent Symboloism of

Kundalini ?.

Why has the serpent been chosen as a symbol of kundalini?

Please explain all the reasons. In the symbol used by theosophy, a coiled

serpent with his tail in the mouth is shown. In the symbol of the ramakrishna

mission, the tail of the serpent touches the hood. Please explain the meaning

of these?

 

" The serpent symbol for the kundalini is very apt and meaningful. Perhaps

there is no better symbol than this. Therefore, not only the kundalini but also

the serpent has undergone a great many travels in the symbol form. Nowhere in

the world is there a religion in which the serpent has not been depicted

somewhere. This is because the serpent has many qualities that tally with the

kundalini.

 

The very first thing that occurs to the mind at the mention of the serpent is

the motion of sliding - crawling. The very first experience of kundalini is

that of something moving within. You feel as if something has moved within -

just as a serpent moves. Another thing that comes to mind with the very notion

of a serpent is that it has no legs, yet it moves. It has no means of movement

- it is sheer energy - yet it travels. The third thing that comes to the mind

is that when a serpent sits it forms coils. When the kundalini lies asleep

within us it too rests in the same manner.

 

When a long thing has to accommodate itself in a small place it has to coil up;

there is no other way for it. A very big power is seated on a very small center

so it can only coil itself up. Now when the snake gets up it unwinds the coils

one by one; as it rises the coil unwinds. In the same way we feel kundalini

unwinding within when the kundalini energy rises within us.

 

The serpent sometimes in playfulness catches its tail in its mouth. This

holding of the tail in the mouth is also a significant symbol. This is a

valuable symbol and many recognized it as such. It is valuable because it

suggests that when the kundalini is fully awakened it will become circular and

begin to form its own circuit within. Its hood will catch hold of its own tail;

the serpent will become a circle. Now when a symbol is made to depict male

sadhana, male spiritual practice, it will catch the tail by its mouth; it will

be aggressive. If the symbol is arrived at by female sadhana, female spiritual

practices, the tail will just be touching the hood. This is a surrendering tail

-- one that is not held in the mouth. This is the only difference and no more.

 

The hood of the serpent also became purposeful. The tail is very narrow whereas

the hood is very broad. When kundalini awakens fully it reaches up to the

sahasrara. It opens and spreads like the hood of the serpent; it expands

enormously. It is as if many flowers bloom in it. Then its tail becomes very

small.

 

When the serpent stands up it is a wonderful sight; it stands erect on the tip

of its tail. It is almost a miracle. The serpent is an invertebrate, a creature

with no bones, and yet it can perform this act. It can only be with the help of

the vital energy within it, because there is no other substantial means for it

to stand erect. It stands by the strength of its own willpower; it has no

material strength to rely on. So it is also when the kundalini awakens: it has

no physical support; it is an immaterial energy.

 

These were the reasons why the serpent was chosen as a symbol. There are many

other reasons too. For instance, it is an innocent creature; hence, the Hindu

god Shiva -- who is also called " the innocent Shiva " -- carries it on

his head. On its own the serpent never troubles anybody, but if it is disturbed

it can be very dangerous. The same applies to the kundalini. It is a very

innocent power; it does not trouble you on its own. But if you disturb it the

wrong way you will find yourself in trouble. It can prove very dangerous. So

the symbol of a serpent reminds us that it is dangerous to disturb the

kundalini in the wrong way. Keeping all this in mind, there was no other symbol

more apt than that of the serpent.

 

All over the world the snake stands as the symbol of wisdom. Jesus has said,

" Be clever and intelligent like a snake and as innocent as a dove. "

The snake is a very intelligent creature -- very alert, very watchful and very

sharp and quick. These are all its qualities. The kundalini is also like this.

You reach the ultimate peak of wisdom through it; it is very swift, and also

very powerful. In the old days, when this symbol was chosen for the kundalini,

perhaps there was nothing better than the serpent. Even now there is nothing

better.

 

Perhaps in the future there may be a new symbol -- like the rocket. Some future

concept may grasp the kundalini as being like the rocket. Its journey is the

same; it travels from one sky to another, from one planet to another, and there

is void in between. It can become a symbol. The age decides the symbol.

 

This symbol was chosen when man was very close to the animal kingdom. All our

symbols of those times have been taken from animals, because that was all that

our knowledge consisted of so we tried to find symbols in them. The serpent was

thus the most apt symbol to define the kundalini.

 

In those days we could not say that kundalini is like electricity; when we talk

today we can say so. Five thousand years ago kundalini could not be talked

about in terms of electricity because there was no notion of electricity. But

the snake has the quality of electricity. This is hard for us to believe

because many of us have no experience of the snake. We may have no experience

of the kundalini whatsoever, but we hardly have any experience of snakes

either. The serpent is a myth for us.

 

Recently a survey was taken in London and it was found that seven hundred

thousand children had never seen a cow. Now

these children who have not seen a cow cannot possibly have any idea of a

snake. So their whole way of thinking and reflecting - and their symbols - will

be quite different.

 

Now the serpent is obsolete: it is no longer an important part of our life.

Once upon a time it was very near to us; it was our neighbor and was with us

all the twenty-four hours of the day. It was then that man noticed its agility,

its intelligence, its movements, and the ease with which it carried itself

about. It was then that man realized also how dangerous a creature it could be.

There are stories of a serpent guarding an infant, and it is so innocent...

There are instances when it has bitten the most fierce person and killed him,

so dangerous it can be. So both of these possibilities are in it.

 

When man was very close to the serpent he must have watched it closely. The

subject of kundalini also began at about the same time, and both the serpent

and the kundalini were found similar in their qualities. But all symbols are

meaningful, and if they have come to us through the ages there is a

suitability, a rhythm in them. But now it is bound to break.

 

The symbol of the serpent will not last long. We shall not be able to call the

kundalini serpent power, because now where is the poor serpent? It is no longer

our neighbor; we have no connection with it. We do not even see him on the

roads. So as we have no connection with it whatsoever, this question arises. It

could never arise before when it was the only symbol. " Osho

Differences

have come about because of symbols. A Mohammed cannot conceive of a Buddha's

symbol. It is impossible! The environments of the two were so different. Even

the word god can be a burden if it is not conceived of as a symbol that

corresponds to your individuality.

For

example, Mohammed could not conceive of God as compassion. Compassion did not

exist anywhere in his environment. Everything was so terrifying, so dangerous,

that God had to be conceived of differently. Crossing from one country to the

next, slaughtering, the people in Mohammed's environment could not conceive of

a God that was not cruel. An uncruel God, a compassionate God, would have been

unreal to them because the concept wouldn't have corresponded to their reality.

To

a Hindu, God is seen through the environment. The nature is beautiful, the soil

is fertile; the race is deeply rooted in the earth. Everything is flowing and

flowing in a particular direction, and the movement is very slow, just like the

Ganges. It is not terrifying and dangerous. So

the Hindu god is bound to be a Krishna,

dancing and playing on his flute. This image comes from the environment and

from the racial mind and its experiences.

Because

yoga developed in an agricultural society, it has agricultural symbols: a

flower, a snake, etcetera -- but they are just symbols. Buddha did not even

talk about kundalini, but if he had, he would not have talked about serpent

power; nor would Mahavira have talked about it. They came from royal families:

the symbols that were congenial to other people were not congenial to them.

They used other symbols.

Buddha

and Mahavira came from royal palaces. The snake was not a reality there. But to

the peasants it was a great reality, one could not remain unacquainted with it.

And it was dangerous too; one had to be aware of it. But to Buddha and Mahavira

it was not a reality at all.

Buddha

could not talk of snakes; he talked of flowers. Flowers were known to him, more

known to him than to anybody else. He had seen many flowers, but only living

ones. The palace gardeners were instructed by his father to see that no dying

flower would be seen by him, Gautama. He was to see only young flowers, so the

whole night the gardens were prepared for him. In the morning when he came, not

a dead leaf, not a dead flower, could be seen, only flowers coming to life.

So

flowering was a reality to him in a way in which it is not to us. Then when he

came to his realization, he spoke about it as a process of flowers and flowers,

opening and opening. The reality is something else, but the metaphor comes from

Buddha.

These

metaphors are not unreal, they are not just poetry. They correspond to your

nature; you belong to them, they belong to you. The denial of symbols has

proved drastic and dangerous. You have denied and denied everything that is not

materially real, and rituals and symbols have taken their revenge; they come

back again, they get through. They are there in your clothes, in your temples,

in your poetries, your deeds. The symbols will have their revenge, they will

come back. They cannot be denied because they belong to your nature.

When it comes to your mind that something has begun to open

and flower, you will have to conceive of what is happening in some way. The

moment thought comes in, thought brings its own category. So you will say

" flowering, " you will say " opening, " you will say

" penetration. " The thing itself can be understood through so many

metaphors. The metaphor depends on you, it depends on your mind. And what it

depends on, depends on so many things -- for example, your life experiences

Regards

Kulbir Bains

 

 

 

 

________________________________

 

 

 

, Param Iqbal <param530@.. .> wrote:

>

> I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji.

Therefore, when I used to have these dreams. It was recommended I go to to pray

to Lord Shiva at a temple, and pour milk on him and ask for his guidance and I

did.

>

>

> Kind Regards,

>

> Param Kaur Iqbal

 

 

 

 

 

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RR Ji,

 

The topic you want to discuss is forbidden for Logic. I had directly quoted from

upanishadas. I myself belong to the third variety known as Bindu-yoga ( " I am a

Bindu of Consciousness in a boundless Sindhu of Collective Consciousness or

God " ). A moksha-maargi cannot chose, he/she has to follow what is given by the

Guru. The real Guru has power to convince his/her Shishyas by dint of his/her

Divine Consciousness and arguments become redundant there.

 

Since the option " I am nothing, everything is God " was not taught to me, I am

as much an expert of this line of moksha as you. But I have sufficient

experience of these unworldly things to request you to abstain from

experimenting with worldly logic in Upa-nishadic Rahasyas. Upa+nishada means " to

sit close to (one's Guru) for receiving spiritual Knowledge " . In upanishadas,

Upanishada was also called Rahasya. Spiritual Rahasya cannot be transmitted

through preachings, it requires sixth sense, at least for the transmitter.

 

Now, come to the philosophical level. " I am a Bindu of Consciousness in a

boundless Sindhu of Collective Consciousness or God " belongs to

Vishishta-advaita Darshana. But " I am Brahm " and " I am nthiong and Everything

is Brahma " are different manifestations of Advaita Darshana. " I am nothing and

Everything is Brahma " is the preceding stage of final Advaita " I am Brahm " ,

because " I am nothing " is for the Ego (Aham) and " Everything is Brahma "

includes the real Self.

 

But these words will do no good unless and until Kriya-yoga is practised for

suffucient duration.

 

-vj

======================= ===

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Thanks for sharing Vinay_ji. A question, if I may: In --

>

> " (1) I am nothing, everything is God "

>

> There is a bit of ambiguity, I think. If everything is God why remains the

sense of " I " even as a 'nothing'?

>

> Residual awareness after all those 'human lifetimes', perhaps??

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Interpretation of Dreams is a part of jyotish. But it needs the assistance

of specialized persons. For instance, Lomash Samhita has a mantra for invoking

the Goddess of Svapna to answer questions which one is unable to solve while

awake, and this obscure verse required the help of a specialist Pt Kishor Nath

Jha of Allahabad to translate. The translator of Lomash Samhita Dr Girija

Shankar Shastri of Allahabad told me so.

> >

> > Read Yoga Vaashishtha at leisure, slowly. There are four stages of human

existence : Jaagrata, Svapna, Sushupta, Turiya. Jaagrata has two varieties :

Conscious with or without real Self-Knowledge. A person attaining real

Self-Knowledge skips Sushupta and enters into Turiya-avasthaa which is another

name for Yoga-nidra. Normal nidra is one of the five cardinal sins (klishta

vrittis of chitta) which cannot be discarded without lifelong excruciating

tapasyaa. Literally, Nidraa means ni+draa, ie looking downwards, ie looking

towards physical and material and not towards the spiritual or divine. Constant

japa and meditation helps in diluting the hold of Nidraa. At this stage of

dilution, dreams of flying come. But when one sinks down towards lower levels of

consciousness then dreams of drowning & c come. Instead of wasting time over

interpreting dreams, please try to overcome sleep and dreams.

> >

> > According to upanishadas, there are four types of mundane existence of Soul.

First three are (1) I am nothing, everything is God, (2) I am God, (3) I am a

point or Bindu in the Ocean Which is God, ie I am a part of God, and the fourth

is (4) I am body. If a person dreams of himself / herself as a physical body, he

/ she is bound to be reborn into this martyaloka. Bujt if he / she retains a

self-knowledge in any of the first three forms, then he / she is destined for

moksha (provided this higher state of consciousness is retained till death).

> >

> > Persons dreaming of flying body want to escape from worldliness but cannot

because of lack of proper spiritual knowledge. Proper spiritual knowledge cannot

be attained by mere reading of spiritual books, although it may help in

clarifying doubts. Read Paatanjala-yoga-pradeepa by Swami Omananda Teertha

(Gitapress Gorakhpur, Rs 75). It will help you in clearing a lot of doubts and

will also show you the practical way out.

> >

> > -vj

> > ===================== ===

> >

> > , pushpa kumari <pushpa_75_99@>

wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Sairam to all respected astrologers,

> > > As the discussion is going on about the dreams, i do keep seeing snake in

my dreams. Recently, last week, i had a dream, where i saw a sher in my dream.

It was a jungle scence. And there were houses too. Suddenly a sher appears. All

were terrified at the same time, all lied down on the ground, pretending to be

dead. A lion cross by me, smelled me too and then gone back. At the same time,

another lion too comes, i was fearless that time, and was having camera (mobile)

with me. So, when he came near me, with close approxomity, i clicked a photo

with the lion, and wanted to show to my friends and others. I got up and it was

mid night - brahmamuharat, about, 3. 20 a.m. I can still remember the scene as

its happening right now. I do fear of lions.

> > > Another dream, which often comes to me, is that, i always see myself,

floating in the air, sometimes, walking on water, sometimes in dense

forest. Whenever i see myself drawning inside water , either, lake, pond, river,

sea, i always see that i come out safely from that, though i dont know swimming.

And whenever i see this dream, i know, i wl face a problems and wl come out of

this situations. So, i get prior intution if i m into or would fall for any

probs, and also i know, that even if i m in trouble, i wl come out of that

situations. This i get assured by seeing drawning in water and again coming out

from it. 

> > > My birth details are as follow :

> > > Myself Pushpa Kumari, 9th July, 1975 11.50 p.m. Jamshedpur, Jharkhand,

India.

> > > Lalit ji has said, my horoscope needed for discussion.

> > > M brought up in an orphange. Though, as m told, i got mother's love and

affection, its true too, but she was not my real parents. Its like foster

parents. not legally adopted child. 

> > > I have a question - i want to settle down in my life as i have not seen

real family life, and want to know, how it is, but at the same time, i have

inclinations towards spiritual line too.

> > >

> > > Thanking you With love and regardsPushpa

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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The topic is not bad. Experiences from members together with their DOBs & c may

help astrologers to find something worthwhile.

 

-vj

======================= ===

, " rohinicrystal " <jyotish_vani

wrote:

>

> Thanks for sharing Vinay_ji. A question, if I may: In --

>

> " (1) I am nothing, everything is God "

>

> There is a bit of ambiguity, I think. If everything is God why remains the

sense of " I " even as a 'nothing'?

>

> Residual awareness after all those 'human lifetimes', perhaps??

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

> , " VJha " <vinayjhaa16@> wrote:

> >

> > Interpretation of Dreams is a part of jyotish. But it needs the assistance

of specialized persons. For instance, Lomash Samhita has a mantra for invoking

the Goddess of Svapna to answer questions which one is unable to solve while

awake, and this obscure verse required the help of a specialist Pt Kishor Nath

Jha of Allahabad to translate. The translator of Lomash Samhita Dr Girija

Shankar Shastri of Allahabad told me so.

> >

> > Read Yoga Vaashishtha at leisure, slowly. There are four stages of human

existence : Jaagrata, Svapna, Sushupta, Turiya. Jaagrata has two varieties :

Conscious with or without real Self-Knowledge. A person attaining real

Self-Knowledge skips Sushupta and enters into Turiya-avasthaa which is another

name for Yoga-nidra. Normal nidra is one of the five cardinal sins (klishta

vrittis of chitta) which cannot be discarded without lifelong excruciating

tapasyaa. Literally, Nidraa means ni+draa, ie looking downwards, ie looking

towards physical and material and not towards the spiritual or divine. Constant

japa and meditation helps in diluting the hold of Nidraa. At this stage of

dilution, dreams of flying come. But when one sinks down towards lower levels of

consciousness then dreams of drowning & c come. Instead of wasting time over

interpreting dreams, please try to overcome sleep and dreams.

> >

> > According to upanishadas, there are four types of mundane existence of Soul.

First three are (1) I am nothing, everything is God, (2) I am God, (3) I am a

point or Bindu in the Ocean Which is God, ie I am a part of God, and the fourth

is (4) I am body. If a person dreams of himself / herself as a physical body, he

/ she is bound to be reborn into this martyaloka. Bujt if he / she retains a

self-knowledge in any of the first three forms, then he / she is destined for

moksha (provided this higher state of consciousness is retained till death).

> >

> > Persons dreaming of flying body want to escape from worldliness but cannot

because of lack of proper spiritual knowledge. Proper spiritual knowledge cannot

be attained by mere reading of spiritual books, although it may help in

clarifying doubts. Read Paatanjala-yoga-pradeepa by Swami Omananda Teertha

(Gitapress Gorakhpur, Rs 75). It will help you in clearing a lot of doubts and

will also show you the practical way out.

> >

> > -vj

> > ===================== ===

> >

> > , pushpa kumari <pushpa_75_99@>

wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Sairam to all respected astrologers,

> > > As the discussion is going on about the dreams, i do keep seeing snake in

my dreams. Recently, last week, i had a dream, where i saw a sher in my dream.

It was a jungle scence. And there were houses too. Suddenly a sher appears. All

were terrified at the same time, all lied down on the ground, pretending to be

dead. A lion cross by me, smelled me too and then gone back. At the same time,

another lion too comes, i was fearless that time, and was having camera (mobile)

with me. So, when he came near me, with close approxomity, i clicked a photo

with the lion, and wanted to show to my friends and others. I got up and it was

mid night - brahmamuharat, about, 3. 20 a.m. I can still remember the scene as

its happening right now. I do fear of lions.

> > > Another dream, which often comes to me, is that, i always see myself,

floating in the air, sometimes, walking on water, sometimes in dense

forest. Whenever i see myself drawning inside water , either, lake, pond, river,

sea, i always see that i come out safely from that, though i dont know swimming.

And whenever i see this dream, i know, i wl face a problems and wl come out of

this situations. So, i get prior intution if i m into or would fall for any

probs, and also i know, that even if i m in trouble, i wl come out of that

situations. This i get assured by seeing drawning in water and again coming out

from it. 

> > > My birth details are as follow :

> > > Myself Pushpa Kumari, 9th July, 1975 11.50 p.m. Jamshedpur, Jharkhand,

India.

> > > Lalit ji has said, my horoscope needed for discussion.

> > > M brought up in an orphange. Though, as m told, i got mother's love and

affection, its true too, but she was not my real parents. Its like foster

parents. not legally adopted child. 

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real family life, and want to know, how it is, but at the same time, i have

inclinations towards spiritual line too.

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Dear Raj Bhardwaj Ji,

We all are with you and prey to god for your best of health.Will you plz give

your birth detail to work on your birth chart,so that the remedy for your quick

recovery may be advised by some expert in this group.May god bless you with very

very fast recovery to serve the humanity.

 

With Regards,

 

Rakesh kumar

 

 

 

 

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Dear RR Ji,

Your question regarding Vinay ji post (i) " I am nothing every thing is god " If

I every thing is god is every thing then why " I " remaining as a nothing.is not a

question of mental level.It relates to the refined stage of  wisdom called

" pragya " .and when a soul got the experience of self realization then the truth

appeared it self.This question is not the matter of discussion but at last Vinay

Ji has given a direction also that we can learn some thing very great through

" Patanjali Yog Sutra " This is a authentic book on practical yoga science,but

there are very rare who have the practical knowledge about it.I apologize if any

of my comment hurt any body.

 

Regards,

Rakesh Kumar   

 

 

 

 

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Dear All

 

if u saw a snake in the dreams it means

 

1-secret enemies

 

2- women

 

3-child

 

4-throne

 

5-livelihood

 

 

 

if someone dreams that a snake bites him/her, it means he will do forbidden

things.

 

 

 

thank u

 

 

 

 

 

 

sanjeev_vatsa1973

Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:50:17 +0530

Re: snake in dream

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear One

Take little more cautions, a snake in dream may also refer to deceiving by some

one near to you or to be specific some one near to you may harm you or cheat you

in near future

 

--- On Sun, 28/2/10, Param Iqbal <param530 wrote:

 

Param Iqbal <param530

Re: snake in dream

 

Sunday, 28 February, 2010, 10:50 PM

 

 

 

I agree. I was told if you dream of Snakes, it has to do with Shiv Ji.

Therefore, when I used to have these dreams. It was recommended I go to to pray

to Lord Shiva at a temple, and pour milk on him and ask for his guidance and I

did.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Param Kaur Iqbal

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Karan Kumari <architakhera@ >

 

Sat, February 27, 2010 11:30:52 PM

Re: snake in dream

 

Dear raj

Why are u misleading people ?

 

Dreams have great significance acc to ancient scriptures

 

if u donot want to help stay aside.

 

making fun of others feeling will make urself in trouble one day.

 

archita

 

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Raj <rajbhardwaj1949@ .co. in>

 

Sat, February 27, 2010 6:04:17 PM

Re: snake in dream

 

Dear Dev,

Watching snakes in dream is just like any other dream, please don't read too

much into it. What if in the coming nights you dream about

Nehru,Gandhi, Aishwarya, Ravana, Lalu etc, and someone slaps you,someone gives

you Rose, someone gives you abuses and then someone kisses you ??????

 

Raj Bhardwaj

 

, Vattem Krishnan <bursar_99@. ..>

wrote:

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> Mr Dev,

> Where r u situated.if near to Delhi,please perforform govardhan Parikrama.In

case in south,visit and pray in Subrhamanayeswarar temple in Palani.

>

> Vattem Krishnan Cyber Jyotish Services(For all counseling services)Dr.

B.V.Raman " Fools Obey Planets While  Wisemen Can Control Them " Planets are

neutral Controllers of Mans KarmaÂ

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> --- On Thu, 2/25/10, dev <vdev17 wrote:

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> dev <vdev17

> snake in dream

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> Thursday, February 25, 2010, 11:17 PM

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Dear astrologers:

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> I again had a snake dream again around 5 days back where I was there with

another unknown person. The snake came to him and bit him. I was frightened but

then it went back. I was happy. Pl clarify.

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> Dev

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