Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > Marc > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as good..and > society is insane, mad. > -geo- > Madness cannot be the norm. Society is just society. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:52 AM Re: Common Sense (Toomie) Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > Marc > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as good..and > society is insane, mad. > -geo- > Madness cannot be the norm. Society is just society. toombaru That is very clear. Roll another one... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > committing genocides, > > constant warfare, > > economic breakdown, > > atomic bombs, > > global warming, > > etc... > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in all this? > > " Common sense " at work. > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. Common sense is the misery of the dream of division, of separate existence in time. Common sense necessarily undermines itself periodically (and instantly). The undermining of common sense is evidenced as a gap in time, empty of thought content, void space within experiences. This gap in the known cannot be seen by the naked eye of common sense. It is like the blind spot on the retina. One implodes. Timelessly. -- D -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in all this? > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > P.S. " peace, happiness and love " are not descriptive of this at all, nor is " spirituality " . > > > > Words/concepts are like child's trinkets, 'pulling' the formless into transitory form. > > > > The reality is absolutely unlike anything it's imagined to be. > > > > No word, sentence or mental picture comes anywhere near to capturing this. > > > > It's all dream. > > > > > > I would suggest we all wake up from our mutual wet dream, before > the bombs of indifference fall, right there, where you lie sleeping. > > ~A It would be nice if bombs could wake one up. But bombs just create more trauma to be survived, and to manage. More food for " I, " the dream character's imaginary center. A dream character can't wake up. Where awakeness is, no dream character can be there to know about. Therefore, the dream of having an existence dies, as awakeness is. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:57 AM > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:19 AM > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:18 AM > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " > > > > > > > > involved > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as > > > > > good..and > > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only madness existing....can only be yours.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Everything is IT. Humans eat fruits and meat but not wood. Some humans > > > > eat > > > > excrements. I feel sick with that. I feel " somehting " whem children are > > > > miss-treated. I feel " something " with atom bombs. Some love it. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > do you realy expect " something " different when the eyes of the identity > > > called " geo " look at the world....?..... > > > > > > wake up > > > > > > the world is only about worldly things > > > > > > and ever will be... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > It is not geo as some identity looking at the world - wake up! > > > -geo- > > > > > > > si si geo.... > > > > the eyes of geo are seeing this your mentionned " bombs " .... > > some other eyes are seeing something else... > > > > geo> Geo or marc can not look or see. Even consciousness can not see. > > > > geo can only see what he Is... > > marc can only see what he Is... > > > > geo> Look carefully. Not geo and marc seeing. When there is seing what one > > is - if that is really the case - then one is consciousness, one is > > everything that falls upon the senses...whic is indeed the world. So now we > > are ble to say " I am the world " - but not geo or marc. > > > > > > > > wake up... > > want to fight the bombs with some appearent others?.... > > ...if so....you are already dead.... > > > > Marc > > > > Did I say I want to fight bombs? Where? > > -geo- > > > > good... > > then everything is fine... > > > Marc Everything is not fine. Everything is very far from fine. Indeed, there is rampant ugliness of apparently separated me's and their mutual self-admiration, self-lust, self-fear, acquisitiveness, blindness, panic, need for each other, fear of each other, aggression, obliviousness, cannibalism, destructiveness, self-destructiveness. This dream manifests choicelessly. If unfolds choicelessly. Its beginning is in its end. One aware is undisturbed by even the worse nightmare of manifesting images. I am this suffering. I am this fear. And thus, I am beyond this dream, in the midst of it. Not " I " as a particular I of a particular being. One is awake, choicelessly. Awareness manifests the dream, is the dream, and is as is, as the dream ends. Aware, this is the end of the dream, now. It is always the end of the world. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:11 AM > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:57 AM > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:19 AM > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:18 AM > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " > > > > > > > > > involved > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and > > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as > > > > > > good..and > > > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only madness existing....can only be yours.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Everything is IT. Humans eat fruits and meat but not wood. Some humans > > > > > eat > > > > > excrements. I feel sick with that. I feel " somehting " whem children > > > > > are > > > > > miss-treated. I feel " something " with atom bombs. Some love it. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you realy expect " something " different when the eyes of the identity > > > > called " geo " look at the world....?..... > > > > > > > > wake up > > > > > > > > the world is only about worldly things > > > > > > > > and ever will be... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > It is not geo as some identity looking at the world - wake up! > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > si si geo.... > > > > > > the eyes of geo are seeing this your mentionned " bombs " .... > > > some other eyes are seeing something else... > > > > > > geo> Geo or marc can not look or see. Even consciousness can not see. > > > > > > geo can only see what he Is... > > > marc can only see what he Is... > > > > > > geo> Look carefully. Not geo and marc seeing. When there is seing what one > > > is - if that is really the case - then one is consciousness, one is > > > everything that falls upon the senses...whic is indeed the world. So now > > > we > > > are ble to say " I am the world " - but not geo or marc. > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up... > > > want to fight the bombs with some appearent others?.... > > > ...if so....you are already dead.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Did I say I want to fight bombs? Where? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > good... > > > > then everything is fine... > > > > Marc > > > > It there is interest lets dig a bit more. > > Are you able to say " I am the world " ? What is marc then? > > -geo- > > > > i have no problems with what i see....it's just fine... > > how about you?....having problems?.... > > > Marc A me saying it is fine, asking another me across a distance if it is having problems - this is not fine. this is the dream of separation. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > P.S. " peace, happiness and love " are not descriptive of this at all, nor is " spirituality " . > > > > > > Words/concepts are like child's trinkets, 'pulling' the formless into transitory form. > > > > > > The reality is absolutely unlike anything it's imagined to be. > > > > > > No word, sentence or mental picture comes anywhere near to capturing this. > > > > > > It's all dream. > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest we all wake up from our mutual wet dream, before > > the bombs of indifference fall, right there, where you lie sleeping. > > > > ~A > > There is no plan in place the counter natural selection. > > Tribes of men are programmed to wipe each other out. > > > > > > toombaru " They are programmed. " Nonsense. Poppycock. Tommyrot. And who are you, as you observe these programmed machines - the programmer? Where do you think you are observing these programmed selves from? Mount Olympus? You can't comment about what you are. Nice try, though. ;-) - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:32 AM > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:11 AM > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:57 AM > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:19 AM > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:18 AM > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " > > > > > > > > > involved > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and > > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as > > > > > > good..and > > > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only madness existing....can only be yours.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Everything is IT. Humans eat fruits and meat but not wood. Some > > > > > humans > > > > > eat > > > > > excrements. I feel sick with that. I feel " somehting " whem children > > > > > are > > > > > miss-treated. I feel " something " with atom bombs. Some love it. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you realy expect " something " different when the eyes of the > > > > identity > > > > called " geo " look at the world....?..... > > > > > > > > wake up > > > > > > > > the world is only about worldly things > > > > > > > > and ever will be... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > It is not geo as some identity looking at the world - wake up! > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > si si geo.... > > > > > > the eyes of geo are seeing this your mentionned " bombs " .... > > > some other eyes are seeing something else... > > > > > > geo> Geo or marc can not look or see. Even consciousness can not see. > > > > > > geo can only see what he Is... > > > marc can only see what he Is... > > > > > > geo> Look carefully. Not geo and marc seeing. When there is seing what > > > one > > > is - if that is really the case - then one is consciousness, one is > > > everything that falls upon the senses...whic is indeed the world. So now > > > we > > > are ble to say " I am the world " - but not geo or marc. > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up... > > > want to fight the bombs with some appearent others?.... > > > ...if so....you are already dead.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Did I say I want to fight bombs? Where? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > good... > > > > then everything is fine... > > > > Marc > > > > It there is interest lets dig a bit more. > > Are you able to say " I am the world " ? What is marc then? > > -geo- > > > > i have no problems with what i see....it's just fine... > > how about you?....having problems?.... > > Marc > > I like to look into this stuff - thats all. No need for problems to do it - > just joy. > -geo- That's all we need, a bunch of joyful advaita idiots pretending to be blissed out while the world is on fire. Look up the meaning of the word " delusion. " It may be of some value at this point. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > Marc > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as good..and > > society is insane, mad. > > -geo- > Madness cannot be the norm. > > Society is just society. > > > > toombaru Have you no shame? - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > P.S. " peace, happiness and love " are not descriptive of this at all, nor is " spirituality " . > > > > > > > > Words/concepts are like child's trinkets, 'pulling' the formless into transitory form. > > > > > > > > The reality is absolutely unlike anything it's imagined to be. > > > > > > > > No word, sentence or mental picture comes anywhere near to capturing this. > > > > > > > > It's all dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest we all wake up from our mutual wet dream, before > > > the bombs of indifference fall, right there, where you lie sleeping. > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no plan in place but natural selection. > > > > Tribes of men are programmed to wipe each other out. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > " They are programmed. " > > Nonsense. Poppycock. Tommyrot. > > And who are you, as you observe these programmed machines - the programmer? > > Where do you think you are observing these programmed selves from? > > Mount Olympus? > > You can't comment about what you are. > > Nice try, though. > > ;-) > > - D - > Survival and reproduction is the program......is the self. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as good..and > > > society is insane, mad. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Madness cannot be the norm. > > > > Society is just society. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > Have you no shame? > > - D - > I wash my car with mine. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:13 PM Re: Common Sense (Toomie) Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:32 AM > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:11 AM > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:57 AM > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:19 AM > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:18 AM > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " > > > > > > > > > involved > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as > > > > > > good..and > > > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only madness existing....can only be yours.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Everything is IT. Humans eat fruits and meat but not wood. Some > > > > > humans > > > > > eat > > > > > excrements. I feel sick with that. I feel " somehting " whem > > > > > children > > > > > are > > > > > miss-treated. I feel " something " with atom bombs. Some love it. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you realy expect " something " different when the eyes of the > > > > identity > > > > called " geo " look at the world....?..... > > > > > > > > wake up > > > > > > > > the world is only about worldly things > > > > > > > > and ever will be... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > It is not geo as some identity looking at the world - wake up! > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > si si geo.... > > > > > > the eyes of geo are seeing this your mentionned " bombs " .... > > > some other eyes are seeing something else... > > > > > > geo> Geo or marc can not look or see. Even consciousness can not see. > > > > > > geo can only see what he Is... > > > marc can only see what he Is... > > > > > > geo> Look carefully. Not geo and marc seeing. When there is seing what > > > one > > > is - if that is really the case - then one is consciousness, one is > > > everything that falls upon the senses...whic is indeed the world. So > > > now > > > we > > > are ble to say " I am the world " - but not geo or marc. > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up... > > > want to fight the bombs with some appearent others?.... > > > ...if so....you are already dead.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Did I say I want to fight bombs? Where? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > good... > > > > then everything is fine... > > > > Marc > > > > It there is interest lets dig a bit more. > > Are you able to say " I am the world " ? What is marc then? > > -geo- > > > > i have no problems with what i see....it's just fine... > > how about you?....having problems?.... > > Marc > > I like to look into this stuff - thats all. No need for problems to do > it - > just joy. > -geo- That's all we need, a bunch of joyful advaita idiots pretending to be blissed out while the world is on fire. Look up the meaning of the word " delusion. " It may be of some value at this point. - D - errr..er...eheehem...did I say something so revolting? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:21 PM Re: Common Sense (Toomie) Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > > <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " > > > > > > > involved in all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and > > > > > > love > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > P.S. " peace, happiness and love " are not descriptive of this at all, > > > > nor is " spirituality " . > > > > > > > > Words/concepts are like child's trinkets, 'pulling' the formless > > > > into transitory form. > > > > > > > > The reality is absolutely unlike anything it's imagined to be. > > > > > > > > No word, sentence or mental picture comes anywhere near to capturing > > > > this. > > > > > > > > It's all dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest we all wake up from our mutual wet dream, before > > > the bombs of indifference fall, right there, where you lie sleeping. > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no plan in place but natural selection. > > > > Tribes of men are programmed to wipe each other out. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > " They are programmed. " > > Nonsense. Poppycock. Tommyrot. > > And who are you, as you observe these programmed machines - the > programmer? > > Where do you think you are observing these programmed selves from? > > Mount Olympus? > > You can't comment about what you are. > > Nice try, though. > > ;-) > > - D - > Survival and reproduction is the program......is the self. toombaru Well...it is not the self actualy. There is none. But those are the main organic powers that feed the illusion of having one. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > P.S. " peace, happiness and love " are not descriptive of this at all, nor is " spirituality " . > > > > > > > > > > Words/concepts are like child's trinkets, 'pulling' the formless into transitory form. > > > > > > > > > > The reality is absolutely unlike anything it's imagined to be. > > > > > > > > > > No word, sentence or mental picture comes anywhere near to capturing this. > > > > > > > > > > It's all dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest we all wake up from our mutual wet dream, before > > > > the bombs of indifference fall, right there, where you lie sleeping. > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no plan in place but natural selection. > > > > > > Tribes of men are programmed to wipe each other out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > " They are programmed. " > > > > Nonsense. Poppycock. Tommyrot. > > > > And who are you, as you observe these programmed machines - the programmer? > > > > Where do you think you are observing these programmed selves from? > > > > Mount Olympus? > > > > You can't comment about what you are. > > > > Nice try, though. > > > > ;-) > > > > - D - > > > > > > > Survival and reproduction is the program......is the self. > > > > > toombaru So, being able to observe this and state this, you are somewhere where survival, reproduction, and programming are not an issue, correct? Thus, you can look down and see all the creatures being programmed, reproducing, and surviving. Or are you saying that you are a programmed creature who has learned how to step out of itself, observe its programmed responses, without that observation itself being programmed? - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as good..and > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Madness cannot be the norm. > > > > > > Society is just society. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > Have you no shame? > > > > - D - > > > > > > I wash my car with mine. > > > > toombaru You are mad, and shameless. I will stay off the road when you are driving your car. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as good..and > > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Madness cannot be the norm. > > > > > > > > Society is just society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Have you no shame? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > I wash my car with mine. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > You are mad, and shameless. > > I will stay off the road when you are driving your car. > > - D - > What road, Dan? Don't you know all roads lead to nowhere? (and back again ;-) ~A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:13 PM > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:32 AM > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:11 AM > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:57 AM > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:19 AM > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:18 AM > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " > > > > > > > > > > involved > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as > > > > > > > good..and > > > > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only madness existing....can only be yours.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything is IT. Humans eat fruits and meat but not wood. Some > > > > > > humans > > > > > > eat > > > > > > excrements. I feel sick with that. I feel " somehting " whem > > > > > > children > > > > > > are > > > > > > miss-treated. I feel " something " with atom bombs. Some love it. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you realy expect " something " different when the eyes of the > > > > > identity > > > > > called " geo " look at the world....?..... > > > > > > > > > > wake up > > > > > > > > > > the world is only about worldly things > > > > > > > > > > and ever will be... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > It is not geo as some identity looking at the world - wake up! > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > si si geo.... > > > > > > > > the eyes of geo are seeing this your mentionned " bombs " .... > > > > some other eyes are seeing something else... > > > > > > > > geo> Geo or marc can not look or see. Even consciousness can not see. > > > > > > > > geo can only see what he Is... > > > > marc can only see what he Is... > > > > > > > > geo> Look carefully. Not geo and marc seeing. When there is seing what > > > > one > > > > is - if that is really the case - then one is consciousness, one is > > > > everything that falls upon the senses...whic is indeed the world. So > > > > now > > > > we > > > > are ble to say " I am the world " - but not geo or marc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up... > > > > want to fight the bombs with some appearent others?.... > > > > ...if so....you are already dead.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Did I say I want to fight bombs? Where? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > good... > > > > > > then everything is fine... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > It there is interest lets dig a bit more. > > > Are you able to say " I am the world " ? What is marc then? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > i have no problems with what i see....it's just fine... > > > > how about you?....having problems?.... > > > > Marc > > > > I like to look into this stuff - thats all. No need for problems to do > > it - > > just joy. > > -geo- > > That's all we need, a bunch of joyful advaita idiots pretending to be > blissed out while the world is on fire. > > Look up the meaning of the word " delusion. " > > It may be of some value at this point. > > - D - > > errr..er...eheehem...did I say something so revolting? > -geo- Not really. But let's be honest, neither you nor I, nor any of the other humans posting here, are always experiencing joy, always motivated by joy alone. Indeed, the leap to awareness is motivated by inability to answer the deepest anxiety of being human - and therefore having no other option than to choicelessly be that fear. Helplessness and choicelessness open as awareness. Not that there isn't joy as well. Certainly, there is joy and happiness. Yet inquiry is not about being joyful and happy. It is intense need to be aware, fully aware. It is beyond any need, in fact. More than a need. A requirement. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:21 PM Re: Common Sense (Toomie) Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:13 PM > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:32 AM > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:11 AM > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:57 AM > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:19 AM > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:18 AM > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " > > > > > > > > > > involved > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as > > > > > > > good..and > > > > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only madness existing....can only be yours.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything is IT. Humans eat fruits and meat but not wood. Some > > > > > > humans > > > > > > eat > > > > > > excrements. I feel sick with that. I feel " somehting " whem > > > > > > children > > > > > > are > > > > > > miss-treated. I feel " something " with atom bombs. Some love it. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you realy expect " something " different when the eyes of the > > > > > identity > > > > > called " geo " look at the world....?..... > > > > > > > > > > wake up > > > > > > > > > > the world is only about worldly things > > > > > > > > > > and ever will be... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > It is not geo as some identity looking at the world - wake up! > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > si si geo.... > > > > > > > > the eyes of geo are seeing this your mentionned " bombs " .... > > > > some other eyes are seeing something else... > > > > > > > > geo> Geo or marc can not look or see. Even consciousness can not > > > > see. > > > > > > > > geo can only see what he Is... > > > > marc can only see what he Is... > > > > > > > > geo> Look carefully. Not geo and marc seeing. When there is seing > > > > what > > > > one > > > > is - if that is really the case - then one is consciousness, one is > > > > everything that falls upon the senses...whic is indeed the world. So > > > > now > > > > we > > > > are ble to say " I am the world " - but not geo or marc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up... > > > > want to fight the bombs with some appearent others?.... > > > > ...if so....you are already dead.... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > Did I say I want to fight bombs? Where? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > good... > > > > > > then everything is fine... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > It there is interest lets dig a bit more. > > > Are you able to say " I am the world " ? What is marc then? > > > -geo- > > > > > > > i have no problems with what i see....it's just fine... > > > > how about you?....having problems?.... > > > > Marc > > > > I like to look into this stuff - thats all. No need for problems to do > > it - > > just joy. > > -geo- > > That's all we need, a bunch of joyful advaita idiots pretending to be > blissed out while the world is on fire. > > Look up the meaning of the word " delusion. " > > It may be of some value at this point. > > - D - > > errr..er...eheehem...did I say something so revolting? > -geo- Not really. But let's be honest, neither you nor I, nor any of the other humans posting here, are always experiencing joy, always motivated by joy alone. Indeed, the leap to awareness is motivated by inability to answer the deepest anxiety of being human - and therefore having no other option than to choicelessly be that fear. Helplessness and choicelessness open as awareness. Not that there isn't joy as well. Certainly, there is joy and happiness. Yet inquiry is not about being joyful and happy. It is intense need to be aware, fully aware. It is beyond any need, in fact. More than a need. A requirement. - D - ....and the most genuine..... the deepest sense.... of joy. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in > > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > > > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as good..and > > > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Madness cannot be the norm. > > > > > > > > > > Society is just society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you no shame? > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wash my car with mine. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > You are mad, and shameless. > > > > I will stay off the road when you are driving your car. > > > > - D - > > > > > What road, Dan? Don't you know all roads lead to nowhere? (and back again ;-) > > ~A Not the highway to hell. That leads to hell. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, August 13, 2009 2:21 PM > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > dan330033 > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 1:13 PM > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > dennis_travis33 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:32 AM > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 11:11 AM > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:57 AM > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:19 AM > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:18 AM > > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > > > > > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " > > > > > > > > > > > involved > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > love > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as > > > > > > > > good..and > > > > > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the only madness existing....can only be yours.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything is IT. Humans eat fruits and meat but not wood. Some > > > > > > > humans > > > > > > > eat > > > > > > > excrements. I feel sick with that. I feel " somehting " whem > > > > > > > children > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > miss-treated. I feel " something " with atom bombs. Some love it. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you realy expect " something " different when the eyes of the > > > > > > identity > > > > > > called " geo " look at the world....?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up > > > > > > > > > > > > the world is only about worldly things > > > > > > > > > > > > and ever will be... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not geo as some identity looking at the world - wake up! > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > si si geo.... > > > > > > > > > > the eyes of geo are seeing this your mentionned " bombs " .... > > > > > some other eyes are seeing something else... > > > > > > > > > > geo> Geo or marc can not look or see. Even consciousness can not > > > > > see. > > > > > > > > > > geo can only see what he Is... > > > > > marc can only see what he Is... > > > > > > > > > > geo> Look carefully. Not geo and marc seeing. When there is seing > > > > > what > > > > > one > > > > > is - if that is really the case - then one is consciousness, one is > > > > > everything that falls upon the senses...whic is indeed the world. So > > > > > now > > > > > we > > > > > are ble to say " I am the world " - but not geo or marc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up... > > > > > want to fight the bombs with some appearent others?.... > > > > > ...if so....you are already dead.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > Did I say I want to fight bombs? Where? > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > good... > > > > > > > > then everything is fine... > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > It there is interest lets dig a bit more. > > > > Are you able to say " I am the world " ? What is marc then? > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > i have no problems with what i see....it's just fine... > > > > > > how about you?....having problems?.... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > I like to look into this stuff - thats all. No need for problems to do > > > it - > > > just joy. > > > -geo- > > > > That's all we need, a bunch of joyful advaita idiots pretending to be > > blissed out while the world is on fire. > > > > Look up the meaning of the word " delusion. " > > > > It may be of some value at this point. > > > > - D - > > > > errr..er...eheehem...did I say something so revolting? > > -geo- > > Not really. > > But let's be honest, neither you nor I, nor any of the other humans posting > here, are always experiencing joy, always motivated by joy alone. > > Indeed, the leap to awareness is motivated by inability to answer the > deepest anxiety of being human - and therefore having no other option than > to choicelessly be that fear. > > Helplessness and choicelessness open as awareness. > > Not that there isn't joy as well. > > Certainly, there is joy and happiness. > > Yet inquiry is not about being joyful and happy. > > It is intense need to be aware, fully aware. > > It is beyond any need, in fact. > > More than a need. > > A requirement. > > - D - > > ...and the most genuine..... the deepest sense.... of joy. > -geo- Feelings pass. And they are experienced, as all experience, according to their opposite states. If you can experience joy, you can experience sorrow. And why single out joy as a feeling you like? What about love? What about wonder, awe? I find awe to be deeper than joy. But that's just me, and what I like. And awe passes as well. Awareness is not thinking, not feeling, not coming or going. Not a state, nor an experience. Not the word or concept. Awe shucks, - Dan - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 > > > > Awe shucks, > > - Dan - P: Awareness sucks, you said? Yes, I agree. What can go wrong without it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. " peace, happiness and love " are not descriptive of this at all, nor is " spirituality " . > > > > > > > > > > > > Words/concepts are like child's trinkets, 'pulling' the formless into transitory form. > > > > > > > > > > > > The reality is absolutely unlike anything it's imagined to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > No word, sentence or mental picture comes anywhere near to capturing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's all dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest we all wake up from our mutual wet dream, before > > > > > the bombs of indifference fall, right there, where you lie sleeping. > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no plan in place but natural selection. > > > > > > > > Tribes of men are programmed to wipe each other out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > " They are programmed. " > > > > > > Nonsense. Poppycock. Tommyrot. > > > > > > And who are you, as you observe these programmed machines - the programmer? > > > > > > Where do you think you are observing these programmed selves from? > > > > > > Mount Olympus? > > > > > > You can't comment about what you are. > > > > > > Nice try, though. > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > Survival and reproduction is the program......is the self. > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > So, being able to observe this and state this, you are somewhere where survival, reproduction, and programming are not an issue, correct? > > Thus, you can look down and see all the creatures being programmed, reproducing, and surviving. > > Or are you saying that you are a programmed creature who has learned how to step out of itself, observe its programmed responses, without that observation itself being programmed? > > - D - > There is within the program a small program that allows it a glimpse of the overall program. But.....it's all program. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > dennis_travis33 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:57 AM > > > > > Re: Common Sense (Toomie) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in > > > > > > > > all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > > > > > > > > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no common sense with happiness, peace and love?.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > No, because common sense is the sense society has accepted as good..and > > > > > society is insane, mad. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Madness cannot be the norm. > > > > > > > > Society is just society. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > Have you no shame? > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > I wash my car with mine. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > You are mad, and shameless. > > I will stay off the road when you are driving your car. > > - D - > My wife would agree with you. :-) toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 > > Feelings pass. > > And they are experienced, as all experience, according to their opposite states. > > If you can experience joy, you can experience sorrow. > > And why single out joy as a feeling you like? What about love? What about wonder, awe? > > I find awe to be deeper than joy. > > But that's just me, and what I like. > > And awe passes as well. > > > Awareness is not thinking, not feeling, not coming or going. > > Not a state, nor an experience. > > Not the word or concept. > > > > Awe shucks, > > - Dan - > Your new name shall be " Awefull Dan " . toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 13, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anabebe57 " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Common sense......is common sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " is overrunning the planet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committing genocides, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant warfare, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > economic breakdown, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > atomic bombs, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > global warming, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do ya think maybe these are " people just like you and I " involved in all this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Common sense " at work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest to abandon 'common sense' as soon as possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > running away from bombs?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i thought that this your common spiritual peace, happiness and love > couldn't be destroyed....even not by atomic bombs.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What 'peace, happiness and love' is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And who ever suggested running away from bombs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. " peace, happiness and love " are not descriptive of this at all, nor is " spirituality " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words/concepts are like child's trinkets, 'pulling' the formless into transitory form. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reality is absolutely unlike anything it's imagined to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No word, sentence or mental picture comes anywhere near to capturing this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's all dream. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would suggest we all wake up from our mutual wet dream, before > > > > > > the bombs of indifference fall, right there, where you lie sleeping. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no plan in place but natural selection. > > > > > > > > > > Tribes of men are programmed to wipe each other out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > " They are programmed. " > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Poppycock. Tommyrot. > > > > > > > > And who are you, as you observe these programmed machines - the programmer? > > > > > > > > Where do you think you are observing these programmed selves from? > > > > > > > > Mount Olympus? > > > > > > > > You can't comment about what you are. > > > > > > > > Nice try, though. > > > > > > > > ;-) > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Survival and reproduction is the program......is the self. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > So, being able to observe this and state this, you are somewhere where survival, reproduction, and programming are not an issue, correct? > > > > Thus, you can look down and see all the creatures being programmed, reproducing, and surviving. > > > > Or are you saying that you are a programmed creature who has learned how to step out of itself, observe its programmed responses, without that observation itself being programmed? > > > > - D - > > > > > > > There is within the program a small program that allows it a glimpse of the overall program. > > But.....it's all program. > > > toombaru Therefore, you can't observe your programming. And everything you say about it has no validity. -- Dan - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
