Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/29/2009 12:46:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lastrain writes: > Helpful?> > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere?> > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself?> > > ****All interactions are potentially helpful, if we're willing to pay > attention. > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya.toombaru ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some point, you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all that can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be noticed. The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/29/2009 1:40:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lastrain writes: > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some point, > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all that > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be noticed. > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though.> > > > > So becoming aware is a process?toombaru ****There's a process of realizing what is not so, which lessens the grasp on the illusion. It's not the process you're engaged in, though. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 11:43 AM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 12:55 AM > Re: Physical Death > > > ****Sorry, word games is all I see here. That, and a near total absence > > of > > any attempt to understand what is actually being talked about. > > > > > > When two conceptual entities are discussing their relative height in an > agreed upon measurement unit........they can.....within certain > limits......come to an agreement. > > When, however, they discuss the nature of self or how that self can reach > enlightenment..........agreement is never possible..... > > .....for one very good reason. > > toombaru > > geo> In a way true...but there is some sense in pointing out the false. > > > > > > To whom geo? Answer that.....and all ideas about " false " evaporate. toombaru The path with a heart toomba... If I can I will not choose tirany or sadism.... I know nothing matters but I choose to think it does. After all anything you do is the same as anything else you do. To write to a forum saying such and such, or to write doing my best to show what I think is false...is the same, is it not? The path with a heart.... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/29/2009 2:16:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes: > > You must choose it with the heart> > -geo-> >>> Ok......no more Don Juan for you.>> He was all made up by Carlos you know.>> toombaru>> No kidding. Did he made up the heart too?> -geo->In order for you to choose the path with heart.......you would have to have a choice........and you don't.toombaruDont you choose to post or not? To piss now or ten minutes later? Can you choose to stop answering posts that you know are useless?-geo- ***Yup, preventing the choosing from happening as a result of grasping the notion that choosing can't happen, is nonvolitional foolishness posing as a volitional nonchooser. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/29/2009 2:31:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, inandor writes: > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some point,> you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all > that> can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be noticed.> The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though.hey toom..do re me ..me me me me..chucklin' along with the chuck-el-ing chuckle weed.LOL!.b b.b.Now...to the fa...is different-geo- ****Nondual concepts have a nasty tendency to bring on a further delusion of deep sleep instead of eliminating the delusion of 'me'. To say that nothing can be noticed because there is no me, is a voice that comes from a deep, deep sleep of ignorance. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 7:34:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > ***Naturally, but I never require agreement on such matters, and of > course > > communication is difficult, and for that reason I ask that folks > actually > > read and attempt to understand what they're responding to. It's also > > helpful to talk plainly instead of trying to be the world's first > nondual > > speaker. > > > > > > > > > > Helpful? > > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere? > > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? > > > ****All interactions are potentially helpful, if we're willing to pay > attention. who's helped? who is supposed to " pay attention " ? well i guess if " you " are " at " that " phasing " ... ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 12:35 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Am I the empty patterning as the world... or only the ground beyond is? > > -geo- > > > > yes. > > only this ... > > no-word. > > . > Hi coo. :-) toombaru knock....knock...plac.............tsic..tsic...tsic...tsic......................\ .......................................... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009  Helpful?Do you think that this talk is going somewhere?Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? -unknown- I have had several insights reading posts. Imersions into the atemporal freedom. So....? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 11:43 AM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 29, 2009 12:55 AM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Sorry, word games is all I see here. That, and a near total absence > > > of > > > any attempt to understand what is actually being talked about. > > > > > > > > > > When two conceptual entities are discussing their relative height in an > > agreed upon measurement unit........they can.....within certain > > limits......come to an agreement. > > > > When, however, they discuss the nature of self or how that self can reach > > enlightenment..........agreement is never possible..... > > > > .....for one very good reason. > > > > toombaru > > > > geo> In a way true...but there is some sense in pointing out the false. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom geo? > > Answer that.....and all ideas about " false " evaporate. > > toombaru > > The path with a heart toomba... > If I can I will not choose tirany or sadism.... > I know nothing matters but I choose to think it does. After all anything you > do is the same as anything else you do. > To write to a forum saying such and such, or to write doing my best to show > what I think is false...is the same, is it not? > The path with a heart.... > -geo- > There is the Pathless. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 7:34:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > ***Naturally, but I never require agreement on such matters, and of > course > > communication is difficult, and for that reason I ask that folks > actually > > read and attempt to understand what they're responding to. It's also > > helpful to talk plainly instead of trying to be the world's first > nondual > > speaker. > > > > > > > > > > Helpful? > > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere? > > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? > > > ****All interactions are potentially helpful, if we're willing to pay > attention. > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Helpful? > > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere? > > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? > -unknown- > > I have had several insights reading posts. Imersions into the atemporal freedom. So....? > -geo- > That is the loss of insight......not its gain. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 4:42 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 11:43 AM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 29, 2009 12:55 AM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Sorry, word games is all I see here. That, and a near total > > > absence > > > of > > > any attempt to understand what is actually being talked about. > > > > > > > > > > When two conceptual entities are discussing their relative height in an > > agreed upon measurement unit........they can.....within certain > > limits......come to an agreement. > > > > When, however, they discuss the nature of self or how that self can > > reach > > enlightenment..........agreement is never possible..... > > > > .....for one very good reason. > > > > toombaru > > > > geo> In a way true...but there is some sense in pointing out the false. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom geo? > > Answer that.....and all ideas about " false " evaporate. > > toombaru > > The path with a heart toomba... > If I can I will not choose tirany or sadism.... > I know nothing matters but I choose to think it does. After all anything > you > do is the same as anything else you do. > To write to a forum saying such and such, or to write doing my best to > show > what I think is false...is the same, is it not? > The path with a heart.... > -geo- > There is the Pathless. toombaru You must choose it with the heart -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 11:03:28 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > inandor writes: > > > Helpful? > > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere? > > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? > -unknown- > > I have had several insights reading posts. Imersions into the atemporal > freedom. So....? > -geo- > > > ****Great! Beyond all the nonsense, that's how it's sposed to work. I'm > glad to have met at least one who gets that. > If you think that there is someone who gets something........you have go back and start all over. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 4:55 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Helpful? > > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere? > > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? > -unknown- > > I have had several insights reading posts. Imersions into the atemporal > freedom. So....? > -geo- > That is the loss of insight......not its gain. toombaru By loosing all there is gaining all - insight - freedom. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 4:42 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 29, 2009 11:43 AM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > toombaru2006 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 12:55 AM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Sorry, word games is all I see here. That, and a near total > > > > absence > > > > of > > > > any attempt to understand what is actually being talked about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When two conceptual entities are discussing their relative height in an > > > agreed upon measurement unit........they can.....within certain > > > limits......come to an agreement. > > > > > > When, however, they discuss the nature of self or how that self can > > > reach > > > enlightenment..........agreement is never possible..... > > > > > > .....for one very good reason. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > geo> In a way true...but there is some sense in pointing out the false. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom geo? > > > > Answer that.....and all ideas about " false " evaporate. > > > > toombaru > > > > The path with a heart toomba... > > If I can I will not choose tirany or sadism.... > > I know nothing matters but I choose to think it does. After all anything > > you > > do is the same as anything else you do. > > To write to a forum saying such and such, or to write doing my best to > > show > > what I think is false...is the same, is it not? > > The path with a heart.... > > -geo- > > > > There is the Pathless. > > toombaru > > You must choose it with the heart > -geo- > Ok......no more Don Juan for you. He was all made up by Carlos you know. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 4:55 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Helpful? > > > > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere? > > > > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? > > -unknown- > > > > I have had several insights reading posts. Imersions into the atemporal > > freedom. So....? > > -geo- > > > > That is the loss of insight......not its gain. > > toombaru > > By loosing all there is gaining all - insight - freedom. > -geo- > ......and One steps out into the lightness of simply being. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 5:07 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 4:42 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 29, 2009 11:43 AM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > toombaru2006 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 12:55 AM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Sorry, word games is all I see here. That, and a near total > > > > absence > > > > of > > > > any attempt to understand what is actually being talked about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When two conceptual entities are discussing their relative height in > > > an > > > agreed upon measurement unit........they can.....within certain > > > limits......come to an agreement. > > > > > > When, however, they discuss the nature of self or how that self can > > > reach > > > enlightenment..........agreement is never possible..... > > > > > > .....for one very good reason. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > geo> In a way true...but there is some sense in pointing out the > > > false. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom geo? > > > > Answer that.....and all ideas about " false " evaporate. > > > > toombaru > > > > The path with a heart toomba... > > If I can I will not choose tirany or sadism.... > > I know nothing matters but I choose to think it does. After all anything > > you > > do is the same as anything else you do. > > To write to a forum saying such and such, or to write doing my best to > > show > > what I think is false...is the same, is it not? > > The path with a heart.... > > -geo- > > > > There is the Pathless. > > toombaru > > You must choose it with the heart > -geo- > Ok......no more Don Juan for you. He was all made up by Carlos you know. toombaru No kidding. Did he made up the heart too? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 8:18:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > > > > ****Sorry, word games is all I see here. That, and a near total absence > of > > any attempt to understand what is actually being talked about. > > > You say you see only word games, yet I see you insisting on co-operation > with your own word games. > > You seem insistent that I should explain things to you. If you don't have > it explained on your terms you accuse me of using word games. It is > silly. Self-inquiry. Look at what you are asking for, and why you are asking > it. Look at what happens if you don't get what you say you want. > > -- .d. > > > ****I don't usually call it self inquiry, but I'm always paying attention > and looking. I don't see myself playing word games or insisting you explain > anything to me. I've been trying to talk plainly and hear what others are > really trying to say. What i see are mostly word games, getting > progressively more subtle and paradoxical and meaningless. This happens often on > these lists and it's foolish to point to me as having this unique perception. > The guy who stopped by to ask the questions was very refreshing because he > was talking plainly. Did you notice the contrast? I guess he wandered off > confused by our word games. Something else I notice is that some folks aren't > making a serious attempt to understand what they're responding to. > Obviously, this results in further degradation of the conversation. > > > When I disagree with you or don't understand and ask for clarification, > this is not insisting on an explanation, it's just a conversation. Perhaps > the one regularly advising (yes, advising) self inquiry is really the one in > need of it? It's not a need. It's understanding that there is nothing else happening. Everything throws the questioner back to the questioner. Questions aren't going out to someone else, out there. Questions don't need a response from someone else, out there. If there's a need for an answer to a question from someone else, out there, that need is reflecting the questioner back to the questioner. Otherwise, there's a misunderstanding. A bifurcation. Perhaps because of a need for social confirmation of ideas. Nondual awareness precisely is that which does not depend on social confirmation of ideas. You think there are separate ones, some of whom " need " self-inquiry and some who don't? That belief can reflect the questioner back to the questioner. Or not. It's a matter of understanding, only. The heart of nondual inquiry is not a question. It is where question and answer are simultaneous, therefore non-arising. Who are you when nothing is arising? -- D. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 5:07 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 29, 2009 4:42 PM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > toombaru2006 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 11:43 AM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > toombaru2006 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 12:55 AM > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Sorry, word games is all I see here. That, and a near total > > > > > absence > > > > > of > > > > > any attempt to understand what is actually being talked about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When two conceptual entities are discussing their relative height in > > > > an > > > > agreed upon measurement unit........they can.....within certain > > > > limits......come to an agreement. > > > > > > > > When, however, they discuss the nature of self or how that self can > > > > reach > > > > enlightenment..........agreement is never possible..... > > > > > > > > .....for one very good reason. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > geo> In a way true...but there is some sense in pointing out the > > > > false. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom geo? > > > > > > Answer that.....and all ideas about " false " evaporate. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > The path with a heart toomba... > > > If I can I will not choose tirany or sadism.... > > > I know nothing matters but I choose to think it does. After all anything > > > you > > > do is the same as anything else you do. > > > To write to a forum saying such and such, or to write doing my best to > > > show > > > what I think is false...is the same, is it not? > > > The path with a heart.... > > > -geo- > > > > > > > There is the Pathless. > > > > toombaru > > > > You must choose it with the heart > > -geo- > > > > Ok......no more Don Juan for you. > > He was all made up by Carlos you know. > > toombaru > > No kidding. Did he made up the heart too? > -geo- > In order for you to choose the path with heart.......you would have to have a choice........and you don't. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 12:46:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > Helpful? > > > > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere? > > > > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? > > > > > > ****All interactions are potentially helpful, if we're willing to pay > > attention. > > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > toombaru > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some point, > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all that > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be noticed. > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though. > > > > > So becoming aware is a process? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:23:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dan330033 writes: > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya.> > > > toombaru> > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some point, > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all that > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be noticed. > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though.if you can be distracted from it, it's not it. ****By "it" you mean Truth? I'm talking about noticing illusion. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 In a message dated 5/29/2009 4:26:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, dan330033 writes: > > So becoming aware is a process?> > > > > toombaru> > > > ****There's a process of realizing what is not so, which lessens the grasp > on the illusion. It's not the process you're engaged in, though.it's far worse than a process of realizing what is not so.it's utter loss of faith in anything.-d ****Since nothing is so, they are the same. We found the real 'Hotel California' and the 'Seinfeld' diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 8:18:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > dan330033 writes: > > > > > ****Sorry, word games is all I see here. That, and a near total absence > of > > any attempt to understand what is actually being talked about. > > > You say you see only word games, yet I see you insisting on co-operation > with your own word games. > > You seem insistent that I should explain things to you. If you don't have > it explained on your terms you accuse me of using word games. It is > silly. Self-inquiry. Look at what you are asking for, and why you are asking > it. Look at what happens if you don't get what you say you want. > > -- .d. > > > ****I don't usually call it self inquiry, but I'm always paying attention > and looking. I don't see myself playing word games or insisting you explain > anything to me. I've been trying to talk plainly and hear what others are > really trying to say. What i see are mostly word games, getting > progressively more subtle and paradoxical and meaningless. This happens often on > these lists and it's foolish to point to me as having this unique perception. > The guy who stopped by to ask the questions was very refreshing because he > was talking plainly. Did you notice the contrast? I guess he wandered off > confused by our word games. Something else I notice is that some folks aren't > making a serious attempt to understand what they're responding to. > Obviously, this results in further degradation of the conversation. > > > When I disagree with you or don't understand and ask for clarification, > this is not insisting on an explanation, it's just a conversation. Perhaps > the one regularly advising (yes, advising) self inquiry is really the one in > need of it? > > > > > Noticing such things is marginally useful to me, though it was much more > useful when I was actively exploring ego dynamics, but my interest in that is > waning now, hencely my lessened interest in forums such as this, which are > pretty much all ego all the time. for a marginal guy posting marginally interesting stuff.. waning interest most likely is best for you. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Friday, May 29, 2009 5:37 PM Re: Physical Death Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru2006 > Nisargadatta > Friday, May 29, 2009 5:07 PM > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru2006 > > Nisargadatta > > Friday, May 29, 2009 4:42 PM > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > toombaru2006 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 11:43 AM > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > toombaru2006 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Friday, May 29, 2009 12:55 AM > > > > Re: Physical Death > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ****Sorry, word games is all I see here. That, and a near total > > > > > absence > > > > > of > > > > > any attempt to understand what is actually being talked about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When two conceptual entities are discussing their relative height in > > > > an > > > > agreed upon measurement unit........they can.....within certain > > > > limits......come to an agreement. > > > > > > > > When, however, they discuss the nature of self or how that self can > > > > reach > > > > enlightenment..........agreement is never possible..... > > > > > > > > .....for one very good reason. > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > geo> In a way true...but there is some sense in pointing out the > > > > false. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To whom geo? > > > > > > Answer that.....and all ideas about " false " evaporate. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > The path with a heart toomba... > > > If I can I will not choose tirany or sadism.... > > > I know nothing matters but I choose to think it does. After all > > > anything > > > you > > > do is the same as anything else you do. > > > To write to a forum saying such and such, or to write doing my best to > > > show > > > what I think is false...is the same, is it not? > > > The path with a heart.... > > > -geo- > > > > > > > There is the Pathless. > > > > toombaru > > > > You must choose it with the heart > > -geo- > > > > Ok......no more Don Juan for you. > > He was all made up by Carlos you know. > > toombaru > > No kidding. Did he made up the heart too? > -geo- > In order for you to choose the path with heart.......you would have to have a choice........and you don't. toombaru Dont you choose to post or not? To piss now or ten minutes later? Can you choose to stop answering posts that you know are useless? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , souldreamone wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 5/29/2009 12:46:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > lastrain writes: > > > Helpful? > > > > Do you think that this talk is going somewhere? > > > > Do you think that there exists something that can improve itself? > > > > > > ****All interactions are potentially helpful, if we're willing to pay > > attention. > > > > > > > > > > > You'll have to let us know how that turns out for ya. > > > > toombaru > > > > ****I can tell you now, it has worked wonderfully for me. At some point, > you might begin to realize that you are that which is aware, and so all that > can be 'done' is to pay attention and realize what has yet to be noticed. > The distraction of the neti-neti monster game will have to end, though. hey toom.. do re me .. me me me me.. chucklin' along with the chuck-el-ing chuckle weed. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
