Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be understood " but > then that would start the > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > toombaru > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > the door remain open > > Marc > I am the door. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be understood " but > > then that would start the > > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > > > the door remain open > > > > Marc > > > > > > I am the door. > > > toombaru and i'm the pope Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be understood " > but > > > then that would start the > > > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > > > > > the door remain open > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > I am the door. > > > > > > toombaru > > > and i'm the pope > > Marc Ps: i mean...the one " who " don't know that there are infinite numbers of doors > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be > understood " > > but > > > > then that would start the > > > > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > > > > > > > the door remain open > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am the door. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > and i'm the pope > > > > Marc > > > Ps: i mean...the one " who " don't know that there are infinite numbers > of doors > > > I don't know what you mean. Could you please elaborate? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 to hell? yes and glad you noticed it! - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:53 AM Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be understood " but > then that would start the > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > toombaru > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > the door remain open > > Marc > I am the door. toombaru ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > to hell? yes and glad you noticed it! > Stay with this Fred......Don't go back to sleep. You are almost there. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 your holiness, can you tell us why you have the actual body of christ hidden in the basement of the vatican? - dennis_travis33 Nisargadatta Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:59 AM Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be understood " but > > then that would start the > > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > > > the door remain open > > > > Marc > > > > > > I am the door. > > > toombaru and i'm the pope Marc ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > your holiness, can you tell us why you have the actual body of christ hidden in the basement of the vatican? This very morning...........I bathed the body of Christ......and splashed Obsession on his sweet cheeks. LOL toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 ok, that's pretty good (even for you) >;-) - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:32 PM Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > your holiness, can you tell us why you have the actual body of christ hidden in the basement of the vatican? This very morning...........I bathed the body of Christ......and splashed Obsession on his sweet cheeks. LOL toombaru ** If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: /mygroups?edit=1 Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 In a message dated 3/7/2006 5:45:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:17:11 -0000 " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No thing exists without its corresponding thought. > > > > > > > > > > If that is understood.....everything is understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good! > > > > > > > > > " what is called the world, is nothing but a thought " > > > Ramana > > > > > > Ps: what is happening with the " world " ...when there is no thought? > > > > W: there is always a thought! > > - no W: LOL!!! > > > > > > or....do we need to " safe " the world....by endless bubbling and > > > thoughts? > > > > W: we do not know > > - a fiction can continue to be a fiction.....why not.....nobody cares > > > > > > or....does the perception Without Thinking has something to do > with > > > the world? > > > > W: i do not know what they are referring to with this perception > > without thinking. > > > - the perception without thinking happen when the mind is > quite....means, not busy with desires, emotions, wishes dreams..... > all this things are related to the world perception.... > therfore, the perception without thinking is not world related > > W: that is bullshit! when mind is quiet there is the thought of it thinking is there for sure, you do not see it because you are so attached to your damned peace that has no value at all, not for you not for the world. Silly ego game #3 is where we learn to consistently bring ourselves to a state of peace in meditation, and then believe that we've accomplished something almost no human has ever been able to do before. Hehe. Since this has no relationship to noticing the truth of our ego dynamics, those dynamics continue all during our non-meditating time. In order to pretend that this isn't so, we elevate ourselves above others and project our thinkingness and struggle onto them, all the while hiding behind the obscurity of our own words so that nobody can be clear enough about what we're saying to really be able to challenge us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: > > your holiness, can you tell us why you have the actual body of christ hidden in the basement of the vatican? > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:59 AM > Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be understood " > but > > > then that would start the > > > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > > > > > the door remain open > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > I am the door. > > > > > > toombaru > > > and i'm the pope > > Marc > > And we are all just Dopes on a Rope. Whoa! I'm picking up someone else's obsession here. Must be contagious!..soaking it all up and joking it all yuk,yuk......bob > > > > > ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 In a message dated 3/7/2006 5:45:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:39:37 -0000 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " > <bigwaaba@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " > > > <bigwaaba@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " > > > > > <bigwaaba@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No thing exists without its corresponding > > thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If that is understood.....everything is > > > understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " what is called the world, is nothing but a > thought " > > > > > > > > > > > Ramana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: what is happening with the " world " ...when > there > > > is > > > > no > > > > > > > > thought? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > W: there is always a thought! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > W: LOL!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or....do we need to " safe " the world....by > endless > > > > > bubbling > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > W: we do not know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - a fiction can continue to be a fiction.....why > > > > > not.....nobody > > > > > > > > cares > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or....does the perception Without Thinking has > > > > something > > > > > to > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > the world? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > W: i do not know what they are referring to with > this > > > > > > > perception > > > > > > > > > > without thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - the perception without thinking happen when the > mind > > is > > > > > > > > > quite....means, not busy with desires, emotions, > wishes > > > > > > > dreams..... > > > > > > > > > all this things are related to the world > perception.... > > > > > > > > > therfore, the perception without thinking is not > world > > > > related > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > W: that is bullshit! when mind is quiet there is the > > > thought > > > > of > > > > > it > > > > > > > > thinking is there for sure, you do not see it because > you > > > are > > > > > so > > > > > > > > attached to your damned peace that has no value at all, > > not > > > > for > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > not for the world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes....this your words....are the words of a > good! ....mind > > > > slave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AH! you with your games of master and slave > > > > > > > > > > > > and not a single moment of sincerity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm sorry.....i wrote with sincerity > > > > > > > > > > and i still do......everything else would be non-sense, indeed > > > > > > > > > > if my words can't be of your satisfaction......this has > nothing > > > to > > > > do > > > > > with mySelf.... > > > > > > > > > > ciao bigwaaba > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok, beyond this " mind slave " ... " I'm sorry " ... > > > > > > > > have you something to tell me about this perception without > > > thinking? > > > > i mean, have you ever experienced something with no thinking > > > process > > > > going on? this i mean for sincerity. > > > > tell me about that, or do you prefer to hide in your cave and > > weep? > > > > > > > > > > > if you would have little awareness.....about what it mean to > > > be " without thinking " ......maybe you would have better > > understanding > > > for the words > > > > > > it seem....and i repeat....that you have nothing but endless > > > thoughts.....appearing....... > > > that you have no experience of real meditation...and " behind > > mind " .... > > > > > > how could i explain....if all the messages i already wrote.... > > > and still write.......have no meaning in your eyes.... > > > > > > i'm not the one who " hide " ...wherever.... > > > > > > but i think that you should seriously start to think about...one > > > day......about the reason of your thoughts coming and > > > going.....without end > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > go back to your cave and meditate! > > you have not answered to the question: have you experienced > something > > with no thinking process going on? > > > > > >there is " no thinking perception " .....thats we talk about > > what in your opinion would be a " no thinking process going on " ....? > > Marc Ps: go on and have a meditation......then you don't need to ask such superficial questions....concerning yourSelf Ego would dismiss it as a superficial question that has nothing to do with himself. It's a very meaningful question for the one who pretends that thinking has been conquered. There is no perception without thought. It's only the resistance to thought that keeps folks from noticing this. Perhaps it is believed that God gave you a mind just to cause you trouble? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- 1069@> wrote: > > > > Are you ready to fork over the hundred thou? I'll tell you what > > enlightenment is. But first you have to show me the money. > > > > " Silver " > > > > > AHhhh my friend.....that is the point.. > > Alas...there is no such thing as 'enlightenment " .....And no one to whom it could apply. ********** Hehe. You're pretty smart. You caught on. Just as you cannot show me the money, I cannot show you what enlightenment is. Cool! " Silver " > > > toombaru > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 In a message dated 3/7/2006 7:30:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:26:47 -0000 " toombaru2006 " <lastrain Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No thing exists without its corresponding thought. > > > > > > > > > > If that is understood.....everything is understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good! > > > > > > > > > " what is called the world, is nothing but a thought " > > > Ramana > > > > > > Ps: what is happening with the " world " ...when there is no thought? > > > > W: there is always a thought! > > - no > > > > > > or....do we need to " safe " the world....by endless bubbling and > > > thoughts? > > > > W: we do not know > > - a fiction can continue to be a fiction.....why not.....nobody cares > > > > > > or....does the perception Without Thinking has something to do > with > > > the world? > > > > W: i do not know what they are referring to with this perception > > without thinking. > > > - the perception without thinking happen when the mind is > quite....means, not busy with desires, emotions, wishes dreams..... > all this things are related to the world perception.... > therfore, the perception without thinking is not world related > > The perfectly quiescent mind..........is like the still wind. toombaru There is no still wind. Hehe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 [...] > > There in no individual! > > > toombaru That is false. .... We both know that " laws " , responsibility, duty, 'reward', 'punishment', 'property', 'relationship' and rest of the society are... are all based on... the existence of 'individuals'! This group's 'membership' is based on... the existence of 'individuals'! .... Even your very effort of 'communication' is based on existence of 'individuals'! Yet, you can remain an'indvividiual' who 'continues' to 'lie'... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > your holiness, can you tell us why you have the actual body of > christ hidden in the basement of the vatican? > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:59 AM > > Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be > understood " > > but > > > > then that would start the > > > > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > > > > > > > the door remain open > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am the door. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > and i'm the pope > > > > Marc > > > > And we are all just Dopes on a Rope. Whoa! I'm picking up someone > else's obsession here. Must be contagious!..soaking it all up and > joking it all yuk,yuk......bob *********** " Would you like to see the Pope on the end of a rope? " -- Ozzy Osbourne " Silver " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Silly ego game #4. (No description required) In a message dated 3/7/2006 7:30:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:52:51 -0000 " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking What a pity that I canot partake in your topic, I never had a quiet mind - or at least I can't remember it ever was quiet for a longer period. But I can express my admiration for you Toomb and Marc for your deep insight which definitely must have its origin in deep peace and quiescence. Whenever I am visiting this list I am filled with awe of those many enlightened members crowding it. Werner Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " bigwaaba " <bigwaaba@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No thing exists without its corresponding thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > If that is understood.....everything is understood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good! > > > > > > > > > > > > " what is called the world, is nothing but a thought " > > > > Ramana > > > > > > > > Ps: what is happening with the " world " ...when there is no thought? > > > > > > W: there is always a thought! > > > > - no > > > > > > > > or....do we need to " safe " the world....by endless bubbling and > > > > thoughts? > > > > > > W: we do not know > > > > - a fiction can continue to be a fiction.....why not.....nobody cares > > > > > > > > or....does the perception Without Thinking has something to do > > with > > > > the world? > > > > > > W: i do not know what they are referring to with this perception > > > without thinking. > > > > > > - the perception without thinking happen when the mind is > > quite....means, not busy with desires, emotions, wishes dreams..... > > all this things are related to the world perception.... > > therfore, the perception without thinking is not world related > > > > > > > The perfectly quiescent mind..........is like the still wind. > > toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be > > understood " > > > but > > > > > then that would start the > > > > > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > > > > > > > > > the door remain open > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am the door. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > and i'm the pope > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > Ps: i mean...the one " who " don't know that there are infinite numbers > > of doors > > > > > > > > I don't know what you mean. > > Could you please elaborate? > > > toombaru there are as many 'doors' as there are people Marc > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman wrote: to be in front of infinite numbers of doors..... but having the key of all.... lost somewhere....in the middle of the dream... let's see how the dream will end... Marc > your holiness, can you tell us why you have the actual body of christ hidden in the basement of the vatican? > - > dennis_travis33 > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:59 AM > Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be understood " > but > > > then that would start the > > > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > > > > > the door remain open > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > I am the door. > > > > > > toombaru > > > and i'm the pope > > Marc ** > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Bob N. " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> wrote: > > > > your holiness, can you tell us why you have the actual body of > christ hidden in the basement of the vatican? > > - > > dennis_travis33 > > Nisargadatta > > Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:59 AM > > Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be > understood " > > but > > > > then that would start the > > > > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > > > > > > > the door remain open > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am the door. > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > and i'm the pope > > > > Marc > > > > And we are all just Dopes on a Rope. Whoa! I'm picking up someone > else's obsession here. Must be contagious!..soaking it all up and > joking it all yuk,yuk......bob you are welcome....the doors are all wide open... but it's necessary to loose the mind first.... lol Marc > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > If you do not wish to receive individual emails, to change your > subscription, sign in with your ID and go to Edit My Groups: > > > > /mygroups?edit=1 > > > > Under the Message Delivery option, choose " No Email " for the > Nisargadatta group and click on Save Changes. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Is there an English translation of this somewhere? In a message dated 3/7/2006 7:30:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:09:59 -0000 " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > yes Werner......the cosmos risc to become too smal....for this...with intelligence filled up brains.... lol Marc > What a pity that I canot partake in your topic, I never had a quiet > mind - or at least I can't remember it ever was quiet for a longer > period. > > But I can express my admiration for you Toomb and Marc for your deep > insight which definitely must have its origin in deep peace and > quiescence. > > Whenever I am visiting this list I am filled with awe of those many > enlightened members crowding it. > > Werner Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 In a message dated 3/7/2006 8:50:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, Nisargadatta writes: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:44:40 -0000 " lissbon2002 " <lissbon2002 Re: IPercpetion Without Thinking Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > Think for a moment, toombaru: > > how can anybody tell you something which doesn´t have a name? > > > > > Len > > > > > > Does that tell you anything? > > toombaru That you´re not very intelligent, maybe? Len Okay, maybe it wasn't kindness I noticed. Hehe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver-1069 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " s_i_l_v_e_r1069 " <silver- > 1069@> wrote: > > > > > > Are you ready to fork over the hundred thou? I'll tell you what > > > enlightenment is. But first you have to show me the money. > > > > > > " Silver " > > > > > > > > > AHhhh my friend.....that is the point.. > > > > Alas...there is no such thing as 'enlightenment " .....And no one > to whom it could apply. > ********** > Hehe. You're pretty smart. You caught on. Just as you cannot show > me the money, I cannot show you what enlightenment is. Cool! > > > > " Silver " > > Do you still believe................. that there is a 'we'? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " Arvind " <adithya_comming wrote: > > [...] > > > > > There is no individual! > > > > > > toombaru > > > That is false. > > ... > > We both know that " laws " , responsibility, duty, > 'reward', 'punishment', 'property', 'relationship' > and rest of the society are... are all based on... > the existence of 'individuals'! > > > This group's 'membership' is based on... > the existence of 'individuals'! > > > > ... > > Even your very effort of 'communication' > is based on existence of 'individuals'! > > Yet, you can remain an'indvividiual' > who 'continues' to 'lie'... > It certainly appears to be that way. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 7, 2006 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " <lastrain@> > wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Fred " <thejman@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (of course, one could say " why does it need to be > > > understood " > > > > but > > > > > > then that would start the > > > > > > > whole illusionary ego-go-round discussion again) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Understanding is the door Home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...and when there is nobody " who " could understand..... > > > > > > > > > > > > the door remain open > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am the door. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > and i'm the pope > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Ps: i mean...the one " who " don't know that there are infinite > numbers > > > of doors > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what you mean. > > > > Could you please elaborate? > > > > > > toombaru > > there are as many 'doors' as there are people > > Marc > > > There are no people. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
