Tirisilex 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2007 Ive been researching "Hinduism" and I came across Smartism and I'm wondering how you see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gHari 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2007 Is it like MENSA? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tirisilex 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2007 Here is a link for info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartism Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arjuna Haridas 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2007 Smartism has the right idea (I.E. Vishnu, Shiva, Devi, Ganesha, and Surya are manifestations of Brahman-Shakti), but they are too conservative and they take the Manusmriti (a scripture many Hindus reject) as fact. So, I can't be a Smarta because I'm not India, for example. At the same time, they acknowledge that all bodies have the chakras and have a soul and thus have the ability for moksha. So I can achieve liberation because I have a soul and a conscience, but I can't achieve it because I wasn't born with the last name "Sharma". Right ideas, bad execution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tirisilex 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2007 So you need to be born as an Indian in order to be a Smartist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arjuna Haridas 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 So you need to be born as an Indian in order to be a Smartist? To be a Smarta formally, you must have been born into a caste. Non-Smarta Hindus will say that the caste system of the Sruti ("Revealed") Scriptures are based on characteristics (this is called Varna), but Smartas (who follow Smriti or "Remembered" Scriptures) will say that caste is purely based on birth (this is called Jati). This is why no Smarta would initiate a low-caste/no-caste Hindu; because their Smriti scriptures forbid it. You can follow Smartism, but you can't formally be one. To be an "Informal" Hindu is to be an unititiated Hindu and to be a "Formal" Hindu is to be an initiated Hindu. Remember that Brahman-Shakti could care less whether or not mantras were recited over you than if you followed The Supreme and pleased It (Brahman-Shakti is gender neutral, Brahman is Male, and Shakti is Female so to speak). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mahak 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2007 Srila Iswara Puri told Msahaprabhu that being smart was no good, and told him to act like the madman he is. They are smarties, we play dumb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites