Justin

beggar swamin, you and I follow the same glorious tradition. So why break the faith

how is this helpful to you? This shows a weakness that you cannot discuss with another without knowing a members whereabouts. If I were to ask you these questions will you answer? I bet NO. Which place in India are you from? What is your full real name as in your passport? What is your date of birth? I am sorry but you are falling for your feel good theory you were preaching before Now you are changing your color again I do not know if any criminals are roaming in this forum. Possibly. But I was talking about the actual criminals who commit bad deeds. No. But never mind. how will this info be of help to you? The glorious path and sampradaya I follow is beyond your understanding.

Gaudiya saraswat! Where did saraswat come from? Are they undergoing a name change? Did the commissioner tell that you personally? I still haven't paid my parking tickets. Can I use your influence to waive them?

He wants you to go play football. Do you intend every post to propose something? Some grand proposal for building a temple or are you looking for a proposal of a $800 billion bailout plan to be drawn here. Discussion forums are simply a method of exhanging opinions. You give yours and others give theirs.

I usually do not like to say 'I told you so'. But someone please objectively compare my answers to SYs. Ain't my answers a tad better?

SY, can you please enter text through the keyboard and spare us the long stuff. I wonder if you ever read such lenghty articles before pasting them from websites. Anyway I took the pain to read and did not find any answers to specific questions that Raghu asked. And you call him a sudra. It is clear that you think sudra is an insult. How can you insult this varna? The gaudiya acharyas will not be pleased by this bad behavior which is unfit to be a vaishnva.

Such favoritism is everywhere. It is not like brahamanas are the culprits everywhere and everytime. Talk to your HR and let them know. Make sure you do not talk to another Iyer or Iyengar about this

I think I can give you better answers than anyone here heh heh There is a new varna in town. "Vaishnavas". They are vaishnavas. A vaishnava is higher than a brahamana. They were not vaishnavas. Krsna told him to initiate them. He does everything as per Krsna's order. It wasn't Prabhupada's fault. Did I mention before that the initiation was given to vaishnavas? No. Okay. It was right at the time because they were behaving as vaishnavas. Now times have changed and they changed. This is a slight digression. But this is done because it is the right thing to do. I will tell this one more time. It is the vaishnavas that are identified. Not brahamanas.

yeah my mouth is shut. Shut because beggar swamin's answer did make some sense. If you insist I will comment here. Do you want me to? Well here it is. The question was why Prabhupada digressed from Baladeva. beggar swamin said Gaudiyas are within their definition. That is the right answer! They are within their bounds. Digressions are their thing. A tradition. That is the final answer. beggar swamin, I am honoured by your presence.

beggar swamin, I am waiting for your humble response?

Hey, tell the muslims they are shudras and you will get their version of your varna. Believe me it will not be anything close to the worst nightmare Not according to your own Baladeva. Shudras are exempt from studying scriptures. Now Prabhupada has digressed from his own sampradaya!?

since when did you have answers to any of these highly piercing questions ol' dandy boy!?

The whole world will be full of only brahamanas then. Thats scary dude

These are super questions. I doubt whether you will find a legitimate answer from the gaudiyas.

no no no no no. You are not taking a humble position. Don't let my praise of holier than thou deceive you. What you are doing is criticising me in the guise of a beggar. You are actually a proud person who is confused about religion and needlessly arguing with me. If you think I am taking a hard stance you should meet one of my gurus who I had a chance to meet with recently. He says that a soul can only get moksha by following Ramanuja sampradaya. Every soul on earth will get moksha as they will be born as a Sri Vaishnava and ultimately attain the lotus feet. He says everyone else other than Sri Vaishnavas have not discovered the nectar and will never attain the feet. He is actually very learned person. Is he a hypocrite and insincere?

I had a soft corner for gaudiyas although I was a Sri Vaishnava. Then I was disillusioned with gaudiyas. Why? Because they misuse and abuse the very traditions they have copied all their stuff from. Emperumanar Thiruvadikale Saranam!

Justin is a seeker of the truth. Therefore he does not hesitate to say a unicorn does not exist. If you call that insulting maybe you need to investigate your inner motive and find out if you really are a sincere seeker of the truth. Don't you have a swamin's guidance that you should not prevent another vaishnava from doing his duty? Aren't you using hypocrisy and putting silly questions to others demonstrating that you are holier-than-thou? Please ask these penetrating questions to yourself and see if you are sincere in the first place before you speak against others.

I crawled into this forum many moons ago. You probably was hiding in the sty and did not notice. What evidence is required to reject a false story. No one has provided evidence that a unicorn does not exist. There are many other stories in the net that belittles Sri Ramanuja just to elevate Chaitanya. What evidence do you need that fabricated stories are not true? because Brahma sampradaya, Laxmi sampradaya, shiva sampradaya are fabrications of Gaudiyas. Sri Ramanuja has learnt from Bhagavan and we have got our own disciple succession which is untainted by Gaudiyas. Thank God for that! Where did I mention caste here! A troll like me does not have a caste. Similarly even-toed ungulates should be put in place where they belong.

beggar swamin, I do not have a guru. Where do I find one? My favorite hypocrisy is to have just one degree of separation and yet be that One. Are you a Sri Vaishnava? Ramanuja dasan.

Good for you sport. Ignorance is bliss.

Enlightened beggar guru, I still do not understand what you are talking. Your inner vision has supposedly detected and pierced my inner nature. I'd like to understand in detail the wisdom you poured in the post. Do you call pointing out flaws as breaking faith? What do you mean by the term faith breaking? Is shallowness and underdevelopedness only visible in my faith? Are Gaudiyas the most sublime and polite faith on earth? Please explain. I am waiting to be corrected.

It takes one to know one

What the heck are you talking? what perspective? what electron microsocope? Did you read my posts. Am I talking about maoists or marxists? I said the Gaudiyas are spreading false stories about Sri Vaishnavas. Not the opposite way as you put it. Should I put the entire post in CAPS for you in case you missed the point.

listen bud...I do not care for a sampradaya that has no proper guru parampara. The order gives it the authenticity and appreciation. If I were to start a school putting whiskey, rats poison, and bloody mary and sell that concoction, people will want to know where the ingredients came from. If I tell them to take it as a matter of faith then I am encouraging blind belief and possibly no one will buy my stuff. If I tell them the truth of those ingredients and the trans fats it contains, I may get more respect but few customers. If I lie to them saying the ingredients are milk, honey and yoghurt, then I get a huge following. Now I know that christians and islamists will never buy my concoction. So I identify a segment who will fall for the scam. I will tell them that they can attain a higher status by drinking my concoction.

WoW! what a scam. Do these swamijis know that their letters are all making the rounds in the internet!