ggohil

Hari Hari

Just my personal opinion:

Feelings like grief, happiness, compassion, guilt, anger....... come from the heart or the soul. I do

not believe these emotions are generated from memory

Hari Hari

Just my personal opinion:

Feelings like grief, happiness, compassion, guilt, anger....... come from the heart or the soul. I do

not believe these emotions are generated from memory

Hari Hari

"Also I have already told before that I am not stating that all virtues have to be taught. I don't know that."

Does this mean that untaught virtues must be coming from other then memory.

Hari Hari

"Also I have already told before that I am not stating that all virtues have to be taught. I don't know that."

Does this mean that untaught virtues must be coming from other then memory.

Hari Hari

I am sorry for diverting away from the main topic.

Dear Shvu:

I understand what you are saying.

Consider this, when one sees something breathtaking the very first time and cherishes it or when one falls in love the first time. How would one attribute these

feelings, felt the first, to memory.

Hari Hari

I am sorry for diverting away from the main topic.

Dear Shvu:

I understand what you are saying.

Consider this, when one sees something breathtaking the very first time and cherishes it or when one falls in love the first time. How would one attribute these

feelings, felt the first, to memory.

Jai Sri Krsna:

“If a person right from the beginning is never taught or showed any love or compassion, does this

mean, the same person will never feel love or compassion.

__________

Let me ask another question:

If a person right from the beginning is never taught or showed any hatred or cruelty, does this

mean, the same person will never feel hatred or cruelty?”

In either case, can one be absolutely sure that Cruelty or Compassion is only a product of his or

her memory.

Jai Sri Krsna:

“If a person right from the beginning is never taught or showed any love or compassion, does this

mean, the same person will never feel love or compassion.

__________

Let me ask another question:

If a person right from the beginning is never taught or showed any hatred or cruelty, does this

mean, the same person will never feel hatred or cruelty?”

In either case, can one be absolutely sure that Cruelty or Compassion is only a product of his or

her memory.

Jai Sri Krsna

“There is only one conscious and memory. Without something called memory, there would be

no such thing as consciousness or even a feeling of existence. Coma would be the word.”

Perhaps I am misunderstanding above statement.

However, here is my question. If a person right from the beginning is never taught or showed

any love or compassion, does this mean, the same person will never feel love or compassion.

Jai Sri Krsna

“There is only one conscious and memory. Without something called memory, there would be

no such thing as consciousness or even a feeling of existence. Coma would be the word.”

Perhaps I am misunderstanding above statement.

However, here is my question. If a person right from the beginning is never taught or showed

any love or compassion, does this mean, the same person will never feel love or compassion.

Jai Sri Krsna:

Dear Shvu:

“Of course, I cannot prove that statement.....”

Good, for a moment I thought your statement was a foregone conclusion for all mankind.

“I don't know. It is a hypothetical situation. Unless we see how a person who has never been taught any virtues behaves, we cannot know. ”

So perhaps their still may be a possibility that, factors like love, feelings, compassion may not necessarily be product of memory.

Jai Sri Krsna:

Dear Shvu:

“Of course, I cannot prove that statement.....”

Good, for a moment I thought your statement was a foregone conclusion for all mankind.

“I don't know. It is a hypothetical situation. Unless we see how a person who has never been taught any virtues behaves, we cannot know. ”

So perhaps their still may be a possibility that, factors like love, feelings, compassion may not necessarily be product of memory.

Hare Krsna:

Dear Shvu

“Whatever visions we have are our own creations. People like to think that they have found something unique and wonderful and get greatly excited. While all the time, it is their own mind playing tricks.”

Can you prove this statement.

Hare Krsna:

Dear Shvu

“Whatever visions we have are our own creations. People like to think that they have found something unique and wonderful and get greatly excited. While all the time, it is their own mind playing tricks.”

Can you prove this statement.

I do not know how true the following is? But it is taken from a Video I watched on Sri Krsna.

Krsna was named by a Guru. During the naming ceremony, the Guru said he saw an image of

Krsna in the Child hence he named him Krsna. The Guru also said that one must accept Krsna and

his qualities to be same as Narayan.

I do not know how true the following is? But it is taken from a Video I watched on Sri Krsna.

Krsna was named by a Guru. During the naming ceremony, the Guru said he saw an image of

Krsna in the Child hence he named him Krsna. The Guru also said that one must accept Krsna and

his qualities to be same as Narayan.

Jai Sri Krsna

I did not have love for god, but I managed to develope it.

Hare Krsna

Following was an E mail I received from a friend, I thought I would share with you.

> >Introduction to the Bhagavad Gita (2)

> >

> >The Bhagavad Gita is not a mythological story.

> >

> >Brought up as most children are, on a diet of comics and super-heroes, it

> is

> >natural for us to speak of Krishna as one more fictional and mythic hero.

> >

> >Nevertheless, Krishna is not a myth. He is not the figment of the

> >imagination of Veda Vyasa. He is not like Superman, Batman, or a hero

from

> >Star Wars. He is a genuine historical personality who walked on this

earth

> >more than 5,000 years.

> >

> >Off the coast of Saurashtra, an Indian archeological expedition

extensively

> >explored a submerged city, several thousand years old. Dr. Rao, the Chief

> >Archeologist declared, "This underwater city cannot be anything other

than

> >Krishna's Dwarka!"

> >

> >Another archeologist from the former Soviet Union, Professor A.A.

Gorbovsky

> >unearthed from the fields of Kurukshetra (north of New Delhi) - a human

> >skull. He took this skull back with him to his country to study and

carbon

> >date it.

> >

> >His evidence revealed that this skull belonged to a man who died in a war

> >5,000 years ago - the approximate date of the battle of Kurukshetra.

> >Amazingly, the skull emitted radiation similar to that of an object

exposed

> >to a nuclear blast.

> >

> >In the Mahabharata, there is a graphic description of the explosion that

> >follows the use of a Brahma-astra (nuclear weapon). The vivid Sanskrit

> prose

> >describes in great detail the classical mushroom shaped cloud, the

intense

> >heat and radiation, the nuclear winter that follows, and the horrible

> >effects on its miserable survivors.

> >

> >It is only recently after Hiroshima and Nagasaki that the modern world

was

> >able to understand all the horrors of nuclear war that Veda Vyasa

recorded

> >in the Mahabharata 5,000 years ago.

> >

> >Krishna is not a myth but a historical personality. The battle of

> >Kurukshetra that took place 5,000 years ago, is an ancient conflict

fought

> >with nuclear weapons. And the Bhagavad Gita is an actual conversation

> >between Krishna and Arjuna, faithfully recorded in a historical text

> >(itihaasa) - the Mahabharata.

> >

> >© Dr. Shantanu Nagarkatti

> >

Hari Bole:

Sri Shvu:

>>>If there was a common purpose behind our creation, then I don't think it would be a matter

of choice left to us. Every human would have been working towards that, without exceptions.

Why should the matter be not left to our choice? Leaving the matter for us to decided is equally

feasible possibility.

Why should every human work towards that, without exceptions? Humans are given the freedom

to decide for themselves. They may choose any path they wish.

Hare Krsna:

Sri Shvu:

>>>All experiences come out of what we know, our own projections. Which means there is no

transcendental bliss or experience that is possible by the mind. We cannot experience something

that we do not know

Shvu, will you tell me, precisely, what Bengali Saint felt when he took Krsna’s name?

Hare Krsna:

Sri Animeshji:

Not causing misery to anyone and at the same time keeping our self extremely happy, perhaps, is

the common purpose.

Hare Krsna:

Sri Shvu:

>>>>.....Greed for a heaven or fear of a hell. Take out these two and there would be no reason to

worship God.

Interesting statements.

There are devotees out there who are not concerned with heaven or hell. For them heaven is

where they can freely take Lord’s name. For they derive so much pleasure in chanting Lord’s

name that they are not concerned with their next life.

Hare Krsna:

Sri Shvu:

Always nice to hear from you. : )

I do not believe compassion to be socially taught value.

Society is more likely to teach you to look out for yourself and be greedy.

The creator wanted us to be happy (our natural state) and he showed us the way, henceforth the purpose of life.

Why do you assume that if their was a common purpose to life then everyone would necessarily

following it.



Sri Shvu:

Chanting may be sensual activity, but Chanting the name of Lord goes beyond the ordinary sensation. (Talking from experience)

The Bengali saint claimed that it is the Lord’s name that gave him bliss. From this how did you conclude that it is chanting itself that gave him bliss.

I will answer you other comments later.

Jai Sri Krsna:

Sri Shvu and Animesh

The fact that people do not follow a common purpose, can this in itself be a conclusive proof that there is no common purpose? I don’t know.

People do not have a “common right” way of doing things, does this mean there is no “common right” . In the world of no “common right”, there would be no difference between the Hitler and

Mother Teresa.

In the absence of concrete scientific proof on Creation, any argument on either side must be speculation.