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  1. It is a very good thing for me that I didn't post my dream of Sri Chaitanya in Jharikhanda. All glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga! Time for me to leave this place brother. All my love to you and the assembled devotees. We are living in a very dark time. How is it Dear Krsna, that I have found myself so far away from home in this strange planet. Kindly let me accept the Mercy delivered by your Son Jesus. Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya.
  2. What is your Vaisnava lineage? But on your side, whose Math and whose Sampradaya holds your position? Which guru? Which acharya? On our side, we are taking from Srila Prabhupada's writings and lectures. That is in the open. But your side (you and those supporting your position) .. each one of you refuses to disclose your sampradaya, your guru, and your math. It is all secret. Why is that? I know why? Because you are ashamed. Because I will go to your guru and your math and they will caste you out. So tell me, where in India you have your ashram and your guru. We want to hear their position. Let them speak.
  3. Dear Cheers, So let us all look at your response: I said -- And you replied: I said Srila Prabhupada had nothing to say to "those harboring hate". You replied "That is baloney". Case closed.
  4. O Immaculata, Queen of Heaven and earth, refuge of sinners and our most loving Mother, God has willed to entrust the entire order of mercy to you. I, (name), a repentant sinner, cast myself at your feet, humbly imploring you to take me with all that I am and have, wholly to yourself as your possession and property. Please make of me, of all my powers of soul and body, of my whole life, death and eternity, whatever most pleases you. If it pleases you, use all that I am and have without reserve, wholly to accomplish what was said of you: "She will crush your head," and "You alone have destroyed all heresies in the whole world. " Let me be a fit instrument in your immaculate and merciful hands for introducing and increasing your glory to the maximum in all the many strayed and indifferent souls, and thus help extend as far as possible the blessed kingdom of the most Sacred Heart of Jesus. For wherever you enter you obtain the grace of conversion and growth in holiness, since it is through your hands that all graces come to us from the most Sacred Heart of Jesus. V. Allow me to praise you, O sacred Virgin R. Give me strength against your enemies
  5. Eternal and incarnate Wisdom, most lovable and adorable Jesus, true God and true man, only Son of the eternal Father and of Mary always Virgin, I adore you profoundly, dwelling in the splendour of your Father from all eternity and in the virginal womb of Mary, your most worthy Mother, at the time of your incarnation. I thank you for having emptied yourself in assuming the condition of a slave to set me free from the cruel slavery of the evil one. I praise and glorify you for having willingly chosen to obey Mary, your holy Mother, in all things, so that through her I may be a faithful slave of love. But I must confess that I have not kept the vows and promises which I made to you so solemnly at my baptism. I have not fulfilled my obligations, and I do not deserve to be called your child or even your loving slave. Since I cannot lay claim to anything except what merits your rejection and displeasure, I dare no longer approach the holiness of your majesty on my own. That is why I turn to the intercession and the mercy of your holy Mother, whom you yourself have given me to mediate with you. Through her I hope to obtain from you contrition and pardon for my sins, and that Wisdom whom I desire to dwell in me always. I turn to you, then, Mary immaculate, living tabernacle of God, in whom eternal Wisdom willed to receive the adoration of both men and angels. I greet you as Queen of heaven and earth, for all that is under God has been made subject to your sovereignty. I call upon you, the unfailing refuge of sinners, confident in your mercy that has never forsaken anyone. Grant my desire for divine Wisdom and, in support of my petition, accept the promises and the offering of myself which I now make, conscious of my unworthiness. I, an unfaithful sinner, renew and ratify today through you my baptismal promises. I renounce for ever Satan, his empty promises, and his evil designs, and I give myself completely to Jesus Christ, the incarnate Wisdom, to carry my cross after him for the rest of my life, and to be more faithful to him than I have been till now. This day, with the whole court of heaven as witness, I choose you, Mary, as my Mother and Queen. I surrender and consecrate myself to you, body and soul, with all that I possess, both spiritual and material, even including the spiritual value of all my actions, past, present, and to come. I give you the full right to dispose of me and all that belongs to me, without any reservations, in whatever way you please, for the greater glory of God in time and throughout eternity. Accept, gracious Virgin, this little offering of my slavery to honour and imitate the obedience which eternal Wisdom willingly chose to have towards you, his Mother. I wish to acknowledge the authority which both of you have over this little worm and pitiful sinner. By it I wish also to thank God for the privileges bestowed on you by the Blessed Trinity. I solemnly declare that for the future I will try to honour and obey you in all things as your true slave of love. O admirable Mother, present me to your dear Son as his slave now and for always, so that he who redeemed me through you, will now receive me through you. Mother of mercy, grant me the favour of obtaining the true Wisdom of God, and so make me one of those whom you love, teach and guide, whom you nourish and protect as your children and slaves. Virgin most faithful, make me in everything so committed a disciple, imitator, and slave of Jesus, your Son, incarnate Wisdom, that I may become, through your intercession and example, fully mature with the fullness which Jesus possessed on earth, and with the fullness of his glory in heaven. Amen.
  6. There is a reason it is called "New Testament". The Old Testament needs much scholarship to understand and much of it is allegory. But read the Psalms and ask yourself are these inspirational. The Psalms teach to sing and praise the Glory of Gods name over and over. Is that not agreeable.
  7. Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya! I bow down again and again to the feet of Lord Jesus Christ, whose sandals are like a boat to cross the ocean of samsara. I left this thread and forum with the full intent of never coming back. I have returned here at the direct request of Srila Prabhupada who appeared to me in a dream. He made it very very clear that his followers (and movement) must be non sectarian. His body was very clean and radiant and I sat with him in a temple for a while. But for those the hate on this forum and those who are harboring hate, Srila Prabhupada had this to say: ____________________ ______________________ nothing at all
  8. Hmmm .. on another thread you posted: - Source: http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/spiritual-discussions/445271-what-krishna-consciousness-3.html This implies you are not an initiated Vaisnava. Are you?
  9. Krsnadaasa Kaviraja lists the following twenty-six good qualities of a Vaisnava: (1) He is very kind to everyone. (2) He does not make anyone his enemy. (3) He is truthful. (4) He is equal to everyone. (5) No one can find any fault in him. (6) He is magnanimous. (7) He is mild. (8) He is always clean. (9) He is without possessions. (10) He works for everyone's benefit. (11) He is very peaceful. (12) He is always surrendered to Krsna. (13) He has no material desires. (14) He is very meek. (15) He is steady. (16) He controls his senses. (17) He does not eat more than required. (18) He is not influenced by the Lord's illusory energy. (19) He offers respect to everyone. (20) He does not desire any respect for himself. (21) He is very grave. (22) He is merciful. (23) He is friendly. (24) He is poetic. (25) He is expert. (26) He is silent." [srimad-Bhagavatam 5.18.12 Purport] Hare Krsna! Jesu Ki Jaya!
  10. Krsnadaasa Kaviraja lists the following twenty-six good qualities of a Vaisnava: (1) He is very kind to everyone. (2) He does not make anyone his enemy. (3) He is truthful. (4) He is equal to everyone. (5) No one can find any fault in him. (6) He is magnanimous. (7) He is mild. (8) He is always clean. (9) He is without possessions. (10) He works for everyone's benefit. (11) He is very peaceful. (12) He is always surrendered to Krsna. (13) He has no material desires. (14) He is very meek. (15) He is steady. (16) He controls his senses. (17) He does not eat more than required. (18) He is not influenced by the Lord's illusory energy. (19) He offers respect to everyone. (20) He does not desire any respect for himself. (21) He is very grave. (22) He is merciful. (23) He is friendly. (24) He is poetic. (25) He is expert. (26) He is silent." [srimad-Bhagavatam 5.18.12 Purport] Hare Krsna! Jesu Ki Jaya!
  11. I also agree. Also .. being "guru" doesn't mean being "paramguru". Being "self-realized" does not necessarily mean being "eternally self-realized". If you are self realized 24/7 means that you are eternally with Krsna. If that is the case, then you are not likely here on planet earth. You experience your true identity (self) when the Lord gives His darshan. But it doesn't mean because the Blessed Lord gave darshan that you are all knowledgable. For non self realized persons, you can speak only on the authority of the realized acharyas, the saints. Anything else is speculation. Speculation too is alright, when presented as speculation, or done as honest inquiry into the Truth. Self realized souls can speak on the authority of the Lord Himself. Even then, they cannot speak authoratively beyond the revelation (realization). In fact, they may is some cases not speak authoratively at all as the darshan of the Lord may be "private revelation" meant only for the devotee but not for the whole of humanity. Commentary therefore, on scripture, from a realized person, is like "sampradaya" or personality. The sampradaya is formed when the followers of the sampradaya are attracted to the personality of the guru. That is, the flavor of guru's realizations are attractive to the personal chemistry of the devotee. Srila Prabhupada considered his sampradaya flavor to be the best, .. the "rose among flowers". It doesn't mean the other flowers are not still beautifully adorned and sweetly scented. I am also reminded that Sri Chaitanya would not comment on scripture in one case. He said "it was self explanatory" ..
  12. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya! Thank you Bhaktajan All very nice references! Reminds me of this quote: Hare Krsna!
  13. I thought you might enjoy that .. you know ..sometimes the little ones need to remind us of big important things! Sending you love and blissful wishes.
  14. Thank you for these references to these sites. There are "hundreds" of positive references about Jesus on this site and He is clearly accepted as "Vaisnava", though not in a cultural and religion sense. The content of these sites clearly indicates that Raghu is not in their lineage or is not following their philosophy and teachings. The quotes below are from ramanuja.org and dvaita.org : -- Mani Varadarajan
  15. The Lord's prayer is very contemplative. The words "hallowed be thy name" do not quite convey His meaning because the word "hallowed" is not much in use in contemporary times. I found some very old translations by scholars of the Lord's prayer in sanskrit. The translators translated "hallowed be" as puujyataam (derived from puujaa). Therefore, modern translation makes the Lords' prayer sometimes read like statement of fact, but it is much more. Therefore, the Lord first instructs His disciples to call address God as children address their father ... "Aboona" which means Dad or Daddy, not as the formal "Father". So in the first line of the Lord's Prayer, we get something more like this: Our first approach to God is as small child and with it comes the heartfelt Love that little one feels for "daddy". We can easily grasp, right away then, meditation of Love of God in the heart because the little children are tender. They yank on our heart strings easily ... So we approach "daddy" with this kind of love and affection, and He responds. This teaching of Jesus is therefore, consistent with Srila Rupa Goswami's teaching that we must be very childlike to get near to the intimate affairs of Radha Krsna. Next the Holy Name of God is "very big" to a little child. Puujayaa(tam) .. Hallowed .. the Holy Name is worshipful .. it is the form of our worship. A very ancient prayer in the Christian tradition is a salutation that goes like this: "In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, Amen" EVERY prayer begins and ends with this prayer. So being "In the name" means being in "puuhayaa(tam)" of the Name. Worship the Holy Name. Even one Name for Him is given in the prayer itself. Amen (Om) "These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, who is the beginning of the creation of God." - Rev. 3:14 How to we properly give puujaa to God's holy Name. ie. How do we properly chant? This way: "Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will be Done" : in the spirit of surrender "Just surrender to Me" And what happens when we give puujaa to God's Holy Name? .. Just what you said above. "Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will be Done" "Give us this day our daily bread" Just what we materially need. Not necessarily what we materially want. And Spiritually, everything: "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst. " - John 6:35 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me attracts him" - John 6:44
  16. notice how fast this thread fell off the front page .. we are still waiting for the response hs and yours.
  17. OK. Now I understand. YOU must be a Vaisnava and one having knowledge of Christ's teachings, Vaisnava teachings, and comparisons between both. Can you tell us what branch of Vaisnavism you follow? Can you publish a link to your math or give us the name of your guru? Since I am a spiritual seeker, I would like to read about your guru and his lineage, and their spiritual writings. Please publish this so we can be fully enlightened. Thank you for sharing.
  18. Proclaiming Jesus as avatar is not limited to Vaisnavism or ISKCON. "One of his young charges had a bible and used to read to Sri Ramakrishna stories from the bible. He became enamored of the wonderful stories of the life of Christ and of the beautiful picture of the Madonna with the Divine Child and fully immersed his mind in the Christian images for three days. On the fourth day as he was walking he saw an extraordinary looking person of serene aspect approaching him with his gaze intently fixed on him. Presently the figure drew near and from the inmost recesses of Sri Ramakrishna's heart there came the realization: "There is the Christ who poured out his heart's blood for the redemption of mankind and suffered agonies for its sake. It is none else but the Master-Yogin Jesus, the embodiment of Love!" In his divine vision the Son of Man embraced Sri Ramakrishna and became merged in him. The Master lost outward consciousness in Samadhi, realizing his union with Brahman with attributes. Thus was he convinced that Jesus Christ was an Incarnation of the Lord." -- http://www.geocities.com/neovedanta/srk.html Accepting all religions as valid paths to God, we also accept their Avatars as incarnations of God. Where Vedanta differs from some other faiths is that we believe God has incarnated many times: as Jesus, as Buddha, as Sri Ramakrishna, and many others. Vedanta embraces them all! -- God has come doon tae earth in human form. thes is fur real. his original name is "shri. lahari krishna" ( commonly called as shreeman narayana (or) allah (or) christ-jesus ) -- http://www.narayanaconsciousness.net/Site_publish/Scot/Prayer.htm and the list goes on
  19. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya! Thank you gHari and Suchandra May Krsna, the Loving Father of every living entity, through the Mercy of Balarama continue to bless you now and forever. Hare Krsna! Jesu Ki Jaya!
  20. And where did I make such a claim? I'm not concerned because I have faith in God and God has a plan. I've always believed in respect of others tradition and cultures. I started this threads as a means to discuss Christian perspective on Vedic scripture and investigate Vaisnava opinion on "Jesus as Vaisnava". For quite some time, one may find many books where Hindus have commented on Jesus, the Bible and the Gospels: http://www.amazon.com/Sermon-Mount-According-Vedanta-Prabhavananda/dp/0874810507 https://www.srfbooks.com/Item.asp?id=3238 The Yoga of Jesus - https://www.srfbooks.com/Item.asp?id=3446 CHRIST THE SAVIOUR AND CHRIST MYTH (A CRITICAL STUDY) - http://www.ramakrishnavedantamath.org/puli2.html So I am merely soliciting sincere Vaisnava perspective on the topic for a "Spiritual Discussion" .. the main subject of this Forum. Sorry you are so angry about my thread. Maybe you could put a socio-political thread in the "Main Forums" section to discuss cultural identity issues. Have a nice day
  21. Afraid of "Western conversions" (to Jesus)? Afraid of Jesus?
  22. Have you seen the Sudarsana-cakra directly? "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you" - Matt. 7:7
  23. My concern was that a certain piece of data is presented and a certain conclusion derived: to what extent can the conclusion be accepted supposing one were to entertain the evidence, i.e. what the wikipedia suggests about Hri in other cultures? The conclusion here is that Vishnu was likely known to Jesus and others and the evidence is that some variant of Hari was prevalent with similar meaning. I simply pointed out that conclusion is not necessary
  24. We are in agreement. There is no conflict. I accept your guru's statement: "The fact according to me, is that in the beginning the Vedic religion was prevalent all over the world. Later, over the countries, it must have gone through a process of change and taken different forms. These forms came to be called the original religions of these various lands which in the subsequent period- during historical times- came under Buddhism, Christianity or Islam as the case may be." There remains one small problem. Many many people on this forum WILL NOT. Personally, I find no offense in other opinions, however many young devotees visit this forum to "investigate carefully, and decide correctly." Therefore, it is my duty to proclaim the Truth as best as I possibly can, if I am very limited. Jesus said "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God" - Matt. 5:9 Please accept my apologies if what I previously wrote was offensive to you in any way. The intentions of my posts are intended to promote peace through understanding and respect. Her servant and yours
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