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Radhe krishna, can anyone help me as to where i can access the shat sandarbas - all the six. Radhe krishna

Radhe Krishna,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> A few corrections.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The name of lord shiva is clearly mentioned in Yajur Veda. In the middle of Shri Rudram you would find the verse "Nama Shivayacha".<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Shri Veda Vyasa only compiled and divided the vedas for the purpose of proper implementation of the same in performance of yagyas. Every major yagya is performed with scholar from all the three vedas each one of them having separate roles in the performance of yagyas.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> about a 100 shakas (Branches) of yajur veda only one is available now. of about 1000 shakas of sama veda only 3 is availablel now. about a 100 and odd shakas of rig veda only 1 is available now.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Veda vyasa did not compose the vedas but compiled them.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> A clear study of vedas would reveal that not only shiva, <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> but Shiva, Vishnu, Ganesha, Surya, Shakthi all of them find repetitive references in vedas.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Regarding puranas - in Every purana, (puranas written as per purana lakshanas all of which should be available in every purana - one among them is shrishti varnana - how the universe and living beings are created) - there are details about the creation<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> All the puranas composed by veda vyasa who is an incarnation of lord vishnu.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> It is said that <o:p></o:p> "Vyasaya vishnu roopaya vyasa rupaya vishnave"<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> From the puranas composed by Veda Vyasa - depending upon the purana one takes for interpretation - one can comfortably argue that Shiva or Vishnu or Ganesha or Surya or Shakthi or Even Skanda has created the world and all the deities including those other than the main deity of the purana.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In shiva purana it is shiva who has created everything including lord vishnu<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In Vishnu Purana it is lord vishnu who has created eveerything including lord shiva<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> likewse it goes.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> So who created whom is rather a matter of interpretation and depends upon the tool of interpretation.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In the very beginning, one friend unknowingly included even Bhagavath gita among puranas which is utterly wrong.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Radhe Krishna<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>

Radhe Krishna Ravi Lochan, ur argument is for the sake of argument. It simply demonstrate the capacity of the person arguing. I have seen similar arguments in Gaudiya discussions portraying Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as monist. And here u r trying to show Shankaracharya as Vaishnavist. Funny. World at large knows shankara stands for what and chaitanya mahaprabhu stands for what. One more funny thing u have quoted is he is not even smartha. what a wonderful imagination. I think, u r blaberring these things on a non vaidic platform. For ur kind information, Smartha, Shrivaishnava and madhvas all of them smarthas. Smartha simply indicates the fact that follower of smruthis. My staunch Shri vaishnavaite friends object to the fact if i refer me as a smartha. They say that we are also smarthas which is partly true. In spite of philosophical differences that exist between the three basic schools of philosophy, we are yet governed by the same set of smruthis and come under the same gothra lineage. Then what differentiates. The extra affiliation of puranic references and aagamas preferred by Shri vaishnavas and Madhvas in addition to smruthis makes the difference. We do not go an inch forward than the smruthis and in this we were guided long before adi shankaracharya. Adi shankaracharya simply given new life to the smartha way of living which had such dominance tilll the time of Ramanujacharya and Madwacharya and even chaitanya mahaprabhu of whom the last two had in fact took sanyas from advaitin sanyasis. Whether it is atmaanusandhaanam or Bhakthi or even debate we smarthas do it with persons who are equally knowledgeable about the facts and in a dignified manner. Ur type of sensationalist or shouting brigage type or cut and paste quotes may be good for web site arguments. If u need a structured dialogue, a serious dialogue, the correct place is vidvat sathas organised in Advaitic monastaries where u would not dare to venture with ur cut and paste quotes. Till then u can simply plant ur vijaya dvaja Afterall ignorance is bliss Whether it is krishna Bhakthi or Atma vichara it requires sincere efforts. and both are heavy subjects which require practice and not cut and paste type of debates. If u enjoy cut and paste debates enjoy it for the sake of it. cause neither will u improve krishna bhakthi nor atma vichara in these type of debates since the basic object per se appears to me from these is satisfaction of ego. Radhe krishna