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D B Cooper Jr

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  1. The way it is looking in America it isn't going to take any sort of Iranian invasion or nuclear strike to bring America to its knees. The massive immigration looks like it is going to be the end of America as people know it. Wether the new America will be better than the old America remains to be seen but it looks more and more like the new America is going to be a massive social welfare state.
  2. Definetly a lot of truth to what you just said Mahak in my opinion. I tried all those ascending paths and all they do is get you frustrated then once you get thouroughly frustrated then a copy of Bhagavad Gita practically falls right into your lap.
  3. Yep, That Clinton kool aid is poweful stuff. Now people wonder why Fox News has taken over CNN and MSNBC and all that because of all of the cover ups of the Clinton scandals.
  4. Hare Krishna BDM, I have heard many Vaisnavas that are mad at America because they say we have become a Christian Imperialistic force. I have heard Vaisnavas say who cares if Muslims and Christians kill each other, things like that. I don't necessarily agree with them but I can understand their frustration because there is a lot of dupilicity and materialism in America but like I say Prabhupada is the ultimate authority and Prabhupada said he didn't come here to convert people to Hinduism but to encourage them to follow their own religous principles and provide people with a further understanding of God if they were interested. So meditating on anger at Christians doesn't seem to be in the same mood that Srila Prabhupada was in based on what I have studied about him.
  5. Christianity is Vaisnavism <!-- the main section of the post goes here --> Bhakti-yoga means connecting ourselves with Krsna, God, and becoming His eternal associates. Bhakti-yoga cannot be applied to any other objective; therefore in Buddhism, for instance, there is no bhakti-yoga, because they do not recognize the Supreme Lord existing as the supreme objective. Christians, however, practice bhakti-yoga when they worship Jesus Christ, because they are accepting him as the son of God and are therefore accepting God. Unless one accepts God, there is no question of bhakti-yoga. Christianity, therefore, is also a form of Vaisnavism, because God is recognized. Nonetheless, there are different stages of God realization. Mainly, Christianity says, “God is great,” and that is a very good assertion, but the actual greatness of God can be understood from Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam. Accepting the greatness of God is the beginning of bhakti. Bhakti-yoga also exists among the Muhammadans, because God is the target in the Muslim religion. >>> Ref. VedaBase => PoP 8: Failure and Success in Yoga Prabhupada: No, no. Christianity is Vaisnavism. Dr. Patel: Vaisnavism? Absolutely Vaisnavism. Prabhupada: Anyone who… Mohammedan is also Vaisnavism. Dr. Patel: Mohammedanism is not Vaisnavism. Prabhupada: No, no. Caitanya Mahaprabhu had talk with the Pathanas. He proved that “Your religion is Vaisnavism.” Dr. Patel: Christianity is Vaisnavism 100%. Prabhupada: Therefore in Caitanya-caritamrta there is. I have already explained that. Dr. Patel: No, Christianity is 100% Vaisnavism. I have studied Christianity very well. Prabhupada: Not hundred percent, but… Dr. Patel: More or less. Prabhupada: Yes. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk — February 17, 1974, Bombay Dr. Patel: Christianity it is really Vaisnavism, but they, unfortunately… The church… Prabhupada: Mohamedanism… Mohammedanism… Dr. Patel: The church has spoiled it. Prabhupada: Eh? Dr. Patel: Church has defaced it. Prabhupada: Yes. Everywhere. Dr. Patel: It is the church, Christian church, which has defaced Christism. Prabhupada: Hare Krsna. Everywhere the followers make the whole thing bungled. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk Excerpts — May 1, 1974, Bombay Got that from www.prabhupada.org
  6. Hare Krishna theist, That is the way I look at it too. Love of God is in the Christian religion if that is what you are looking for. The key is getting that love for God then you don't have to bound by a bunch of ritualism etc. Krsna Consciousness literature hasn't lessened my love for Jesus in anyway, it has just expanded my view of God. I view that as a beautiful thing and I am still eager to hear or even relearn beautiful truths from both religions. Or like you say even if science is revealing Gods truth I like to learn from that or any other form of knowledge that reveals the wonders of God. They are like you say different sets of codes.
  7. Hare Krishna Guest, I agree with a lot of what you are saying and clearly you are a much more intelligent biblical scholar then I will ever be. I also agree with BDM that Krishna is unlimited so it is possible that He is even the Christian God. Maybe some cleric comes up with fanatic statements about exclusivity or maybe Moses had some moments when he was off his rocker or something but I believe the essence of Christianity is very similar to the essence of Krsna Consciousness. Whenever I commune with the supersoul I always have warm feelings towards Jesus because it is my belief that he was willing to give up his physical body in trying to encourage people to have faith in God and not many people are willing to go that far.
  8. Hare Krishna bija, Yours is a great story and nothing offensive about that at all.
  9. Hare Krishna bija, "These material tastes are wearing thin"- You can say that again. I once met an old man when I was a young man full of hopes and dreams. He told me "Life just keeps going on and on and on." I thought he was kind of cynical and bitter but now after spending many years of doing the same things over and over again I understand what he was saying.
  10. I am definetly a neophyte in regards to Vedic literature but I was wondering is there any way to have a relationship with Krsna that is in mood of complete and total ridiculousness? I vaguely remember something in Prabhupada's books about there being a humorous relationship with Krsna but don't remember exactly what it said. I realize you would have to maintain the high regulative standards otherwise it would just turn into crude karmi comedy but I am very attracted to such a relationship because I just can't take life very seriously anymore no matter how hard I try. I really like the incarnations of Krsna where he behaves like a madman living with cows and stuff. Those ones are just a riot. You can't help but love a guy like Him.
  11. Can you get all that from reading Prabhupada's books. I read his books and recognize his greatness although I don't follow perfectly I am way better than I used to be. Mostly scared of devotee association because I have read about all sorts of horror stories in regards to Iskcon but eventually I realize I am going to have to abandon the association of a lot of the karmis I live around. I really like reading Srimad Bhagavatam, absolutely amazing book, but I have no desire to preach it to anyone, in fact I can't think of anything that would be worse than that. I don't know if this means I am going to burn in a karmic hell for many lifetimes, I would definetly prefer not to.
  12. I can understand peoples frustrations with Christianity believe me. I have lived around them for a long time and I think it is fair to say they are enminical towards brahmanical culture for the most part. Just for my own personal peace of mind I like to take Prabhupada's mood toward Christians and try to encourage them to follow their own commandments then they can elevate to the mode of goodness and possibly become more interested in Krsna. A devotee like Prabhupada is tolerant as a tree, Krsna will probably be much more harsh on the Christians if they remain enminical to brahmanical culture, so I understand peoples desire to see Christians destoyed. I do believe that Jesus was a pure devotee of God and that it is possible that the burning bush was Krsna and Krsna said to himself "I will give these primitive people in the desert a copy of regulative principles to follow, I would like to give them a copy of Srimad Bhagavatam but I fear they are too primitive to understand it". Just because I believe this doesn't mean I have any desire to join and be baptized by any Christian church anymore than I want to submit myself to a guru who demands worship, money, and then ends up having sex with his disciples.
  13. Prabhupada said the Lame man (India) should join forces with the wealthy man(America) and promote spiritual culture around the world or something to that effect. As we can see that hasn't exactly happened as the world appears to be on the verge of collapse. Definetly a sad situation and I get a sense of forboding that a major catastrophe could happen sometime in the near future as a result of the karma going on. Hopefully I am wrong. quote=gHari]Stay the hell out of Iran. Get a life, you morons! Your self-image of 'the good' godly brothers remains only in your own delusions of grandeur. Soon you'll have to be placed on the list of terrorist nations. We need to realize the godless hell that has become typical of our streets, and step down from our prancing ponies and realize that our enemy lives here bigger than life. Our enemy: ourselves. Iran. Don't even think about it. Surely you know that 9/11 is the direct result of your previous attacks on towers in Libya. That is what Bin Ladden said. While watching those towers fall on TV, he envisioned the 9/11 plan. I guess that makes 9/11 simply extended collateral damage.
  14. I found a quote in Srimad Bhagavatam that says if you recite the story of Prahlada Maharaja in the morning and evening with faith and devotion then all or your material needs will automatically be taken care of by Krishna and you will be guaranteed to go back to Godhead when you quit your body. I don't know if this means there is some flexibility in devotional service. From what I have read Prabhupada was very strict about chanting 16 rounds and following regulative principles but then I have read other statements where Prabhupada says the most important regulative principle to follow is no illicit sex and that if you are going to eat meat make sure and not to eat cows. I guess it changes for the audience he is speaking too or something. Maybe he was making concessions because western culture is so blind to spiritual realization.
  15. Everyone is full of faults in Kali-yuga. Best to pray for people to follow the rules of their religion, that is what Prabhupada did. He had great respect for Christianity as I have seen quotes that say Christianity is a form of Vaisnavism and that Prabhupada has no war with Christianity. All he asked is for Christians to please follow their commandments. He didn't make fun of them.
  16. Don't know the scriptural answer to this at all but I would think remaining celibate or at least just loyal to one partner would be more important than worrying about how the body is maintained due to some form of external ritualism or something. For me when I see a beautiful woman or something I just think that she is actually just made of flesh, blood, stool and urine and that usually cures any lusty desires that might arise plus thinking about all the trouble you have to go through to maintain a woman is usally enough to get me to come to my senses but like they say sexual attraction is a powerful force you just have to be rational about it and realize the trouble it can bring. Of course American civilization is so blind to spiritual realization that when men get to the age when they get tired of sex and are possibly at a place where they can renounce it the civilization and their wives encourage them to take viagra or cialis and keep at it.
  17. Seriously that is good advice given but unfortunately in America this is very big problem. I don't know if it is because most of the males are sudras or what but the women like to bounce around from partner to partner quite a bit.
  18. I hope you make those millions because that would be a tremedous service to the Lord to make faith based movies. I didn't mean to be mean to Bush, I voted for him and usually vote conservative. Sometimes I listen to the conspiracy theorists and they hit so hard on Bush that I think maybe they are right. Actually don't know for sure but I like your approach best. Best to pray for our leaders and pray they take council from Prabhupada.
  19. You may be right. But American academia is full of very cynical, materially minded people so to see them take baby steps toward accepting some sort of order to the universe is in my mind a positive development. Full blown Krsna Consciousness they are probably not prepared for yet, very few people I know are. Most of the people I know go apesh*t at the thought of giving up drugs, sex and alcohol and accepting a higher authority so we got to take it slow.
  20. Yeah I saw the movie and there were parts of it where I did get the sense that the folks from Hollywood were trying to make some kind of social statement against Christianity. They were probably trying to say that Moses is George Bush or something. You never can tell for sure because everyone in the media seems to have some sort of agenda these days now no matter how subtle it can be. I have even heard Hindus that have amazing misconceptions about their own faith. I once talked to a Taco selling Brahmin from Texas who insisted that Arjuna was a fool for sharing his wife with his brothers and said that Krishna was nothing but a rooster let loose in a hen house. The guy claimed to be a descendent of high brahmin lineage from India.
  21. Wow! I am hoping they will give me double that if I hand them a copy of the Bhagavad Gita, lets just hope they are able to grasp its essence. Finally I may have found a get rich quick scheme that will take care of me for the rest of my life! Just kidding. Seriously though that is good news and hopefully academia will take his research seriously and then the public will accept it as truth and it will lead the public to abandon atheistic philosophies and usher in a new era of peaceful theism and the inhabitants of this dreadful planet will become pacified and content.
  22. That just shows you Prabhupada was a man of supreme humility. But anyone with any insider knowledge can tell you that he is far too humble in that statement in my opinion. It took unimaginable courage to do what he did. When I look at people in general nothing scares me more than thinking to myself "I should go instruct those people in Vedic Knowledge" whereas Prabhupada would do it without hesitation.
  23. Just saw this on O'Reilly. African American students are mad at Peta because they compared cruelty to animals to slavery. Oh Lord the Kali-yuga just gets stranger by the minute. Seems like from a Krsna Conscious perspective Peta is right. I can understand African Americans being offended to a certain degree but at the same time they are too attached to their identities as African Americans to realize that cruelty to animals is a form of slavery in my opinion.
  24. The part that would concern me about something like this is that people had to keep their distance and his followers hid him behind a curtain at night. If he was really the Buddha reincarnated he would probably be busy telling everyone that the "soul is the only refuge" and would be willing to debate people. I know a guy who is an expert in Buddhism and he said the Buddha was constantly travelling around telling people that the "soul is the only refuge". Not to long ago I had some Mormon missionaries come over trying to convert me to Mormonism so I decided to do a little study on their religion. I don't know if it is true but I found a site of ex-Mormons and they were saying that Joseph Smith was a fraud and the Mormon temples that Joseph Smith designed had all of these secret rooms with guards and it took certain passwords to access them and it was in these rooms that Joseph Smith took young girls. That kind of secretiveness stuff hiding behind curtains and secret passwords and all that is creepy.
  25. I admit you make some intelligent thought provoking points in your address to this Captain. I definetly can't blame anyone for being against the war or any war for that matter. I voted for Bush twice because I watched the tactics that Clintons lawyers used against Juanita Broderick, and that other woman that he messed around with and decided I didn't want anyone in the White House who is associated with Bill Clinton due to his lack of moral character. If he would have been honest from the start and just said "you know what, I am just a dog at heart, I can't keep my hands of beautiful women, or even not so beautiful women, when they throw themselves at me, or even when they don't" I could have had some respect for him for being honest. I knew when we went to Iraq that would effectively be the end of Bush's Presidency even though at some level I can understand shutting down Saddam. It seems a virtual certainty that the liberals will be back in power very soon and it will probably be Hillary Clinton and her cronies that get their hands on the steering wheel of this tragi-comedy called the material world. I don't know if Krsna has a sick sense of humor if he is the one empowering these people or if it is our fault because we are the ones empowering them and we want to be fooled. I have read that not even a blade of grass moves without Krsna's sanction so I guess for some reason he wants these people in power. I guess it is possible that Bush and the Clintons are devotees and Krsna sent them to the material world to play as demons so he could fight them so maybe Krsna will ultimately save us from these people I don't know.
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