maadhav

both of you should give up eating meat.

As I said, manusmrti has never been followed seriously, however, verse 5-48 says: "Meat can never be obtained without injury to living creatures, and injury to sentient beings is detrimental to (the attainment of) heavenly bliss; let him therefore shun (the use of) meat." Thus the vedic scriptures value vegetarian foods for spiritual progress.

<< ..She must on the death of her husband allow herself to be burnt alive on the same funeral pyre. That everyone will praise her virtue." (Manusmriti 9.3) >> I did not find this in Manusmriti. Any way, 9.7 shows the purpose behind protecting women. "He who carefuly guards his wife, preserves( the purity of) his offsprings, virtuous conduct, his family, himself, and his (means of acquiring) merit." Manusmriti is not followed seriously any time. For now, Gita is the book of hinduism. A man made scripture is not accepted as absolute dharma in hinduism.

the vedic way of living is hinduism. for more info see Panchajanya web page.

<< 2) Why does Vishnu always incarnate in India? >> we do not know all incatnations of vishnu. the scriptures describe some major incarnations in india. he can incarnate any place any time as he chooses. the scriptures describe the charcteristics of an icarnation.

read my post again. a hindu widow prefers to not attand a wedding. she is not forced to not attend. some mixes are not compatible. e.g. a sanyasi does not look good in a bank or in a stock market. a sanysais's presence in a marriage ceremony also is not proper. if the sanyaasi feels like marrying it is not good. if on the other hand the broom feels like taking sanyaas right at the time of marrige, it is not good either, generally. in marriage, every one is happy to see two get married. in that mood when one sees a widow, they feel sorrow that she lost her husband. to avoid such conflicting feelings (joy and sorrow) in the minds of people, the widows prefer to not attend marriages. non hindus may not understand this wisdom. no problem. << ..what benefit are you getting by residing in USA if these ideas are still in your head? >> what benefit you expect one must derive by living in USA? do you miss those benefits or derive them? the hippies in 1965 time were deriving all the benefits of USA, and they gave it up and became HK's.

thanks. i read about katargama deity - skanda. krishna says: senAninAm aham skanda.

<< •••••right, kalki comes to kill... when he arrives if we are still here in the earth it is because we are rascal materialists not already in the spiritual world, so seeing him is to die after milliseconds >> at no times all the people are rascals. when kalki comes, there will be devotees supporting kalki. your grand grand children, millions, will be there. we cannot expect them to be asuras. they will be supporting kalki. one can work for god any time, any millenium, even now. asuras are doing adharma. to fight the asuras in various ways is dharma.

<< ••••but for bringing your politic ideas masking them as religion >> there is not masking. it is open. it is a fact that krishna says arjun to fight adharma. dharma has to be revealed, not masked. gandhi on the other hand masked his political agenda under a song he composed and passed on as bhajan - iswara allah teraa naam.

<< A person can accept God without a gurus's help , but it will be difficult . If you are under a guru the path will be much easier and smoother . >> if your goal is not to realize god or go to god, then you do not need a dharma guru. you then need teachers/ professorrs, guides to get you what you want to get. a dharam guru is the guide who can help you go to god. he (a hindu guru) does not clain to hold monopoly for it.

what is a good link or book that gives true history of sri-lanka please. rama defeated an asura called ravana, and gave the kingdom to his deevotee vibhishan. who are sinhalese people? what is their home land? i am interested to know. thanks.

<< ..they are born hundreds of years after the invaders.. so if they, innocents, have to go away, ..>> you assume i want them go away. i do not, if they give up islam. their ancestors were hindus who were forcibly converted. they have no reason to continue an ideology imposed upon their ancestors. if however, they insist they want to follow islam, then we gave them pakistan and B-desh where they can live, but not on the vedic land. you must know that we hindus did not want to part the country (in 1947) and did not tell them go away. they insisted on a separate land, and so we gave it - pakistan. and still we allowed the muslims to live in india. dont you think that is more than tolerance of the hindus? this tolerance is much more than required for tolerance. now it is clear that it was a big mistake. a muslim cannot be grateful to anything a kafir does. the history shows this. so, now we do not want that aggressor ideology in india. you see in justice in this? a hindu hater will certainly see injustice in anythign a hindu does. i cannot help it. but hindus ought to rule on hindu homeland.

<< yes madhav... if i follow your reasoning all over the world 5000 years ago there was vedic civilization so arabians, turks and afghans are vedic as the indians..... >> once their ancestors possibly were vedic. but a sanatana dharmi (hindu) is one who accepts the authority of the vedas and lives by it. therefore, one who says he is a muslim or a ., etc, obviously is not a sanatana dharmi and is intolerant of hinduism. and the hindus have no problem with them. they can practice . or islam in their land, not in india. india is for the people who follow the dharma that has grown there, is there, since milleniums. the invader and aggresive ideologies needs to get out of the vedic land.

<< •••if you want to see muslim out of india, maybe the people of sri lanka want to see the tamils go back in tamil nadu, so if your fanaticism is right (i do not think so) it is right also for sri lanka people.. >> you miss to consider a point: the tamils did not invade sri lanka forcibly, and they did not try to convert locals by force, and they did not cause genocide of the locals. the invader muslims did all that in india.

if you cannot understand my posts/points or choose not to, then fine. it is your right. i cannot guarantee all will understand my posts. communication is a cooperative effort. no cooperation, no communiation. also i am not here for popularity contest. many enen did not like krishna or what he said. i am an ordinary hindu. have a nice day.

kalki is predicted at the end of kali yiga that will happen about 427K years from now. this does not mean no incarnation will happen before that. the scriptures mention only the major avataras. minor avataras do happen as needed any where any time. a good idea is to not wait for an avatar, but to live by the instructions of krishna given in gita.

see this link: http://www.geocities.com/shvyaas/Content.html it has several articles that may help you. let us know if you lie hinduism.

<< Maadhal, we hindus don't believe in hell or heaven or Devil. >> here you are saying you are a hindu. <<.. how can Krishna comes to save the world from devil? I dont' understand that as well... clear explanation please!!! >> and here you are saying you do not understand krishna. a hindu should now the answer. well, all may not know it. so let me clarify. per the vedic literature. there are many kinds of hells with various sufferings. but for any sin one may commit, there is no eternal hell. no soul lives in a hell eternally. one may go to any hell, but for a certain time only. also, if god or a godly person who has realized god becomes merciful to a soul in hell, he/she can free the soul/jiva from the hell. now aboud devil. the non hindu concept of devil is that devil is a person who always workd agaisnt god. the vedic literature (hinduism) does not say so. if devil s a person, who created it, who are his parents, when he was born, how long he will live? if god created devil, then sure can can kill devil also. in gita krishna talks about daivic and asuric mentality. see gita chapter daiva asura sampad vibhaag yoga. any person can hold sura (daivic) mentality or asura mentality. this mentality is generated due to one's belief in god or non belief in god, and how stongly on want to enjoy with one's senses and how greedy one is, or how much one controls one's senses. any person can change from one mentality to the other. so, there is no permanent sura or asura. the different yoga processes are to help one, any one (sura or asura) from bad to good, always closer to god and godly life/ pious/sin-free life. krishna comes/incarnates when there is too much adharma in a society, so much that his devotees feel too much pain and cannot fight the asuras by themselves. then he comes to please his devotees, and annahilates the asuras. he kills asuras only if the asuras do not surrender and do not give up asuric mentality and karma. (similalry, the suras need to fight asuras till they surrender and give up adharma. if they do not give up, then the asuras must be killed so that the freedom of the suras to practice dharma is protected.) hoep it helps.

<< ... hinduism is a mix of good and bad, >> usually a non hindu says a thing like this. every religion's group has some people who do not know well what their own religion is, and they malpractice their own religion. hindus are not an exception. a hindu usually/ ideally says this: "of all the vedic paths given in Hinduism (gita), i have chosen a particular path (yoga) because it is easy and suitable for me. it is different from other paths. those who practice other paths are also hindus like i am. i love and respect them too, but for my sadhana, i have my own choice. similarly, they can have their own choice. if however, some one tries to take away my freedom or my hindu friend's freedom of practicing hinduism in our own hindu land, then i will resist it and fight for to retain the freedom in every way. to fight against adharma (external or internal) is dharma."

<< In the article you published here, it says that we are individual souls. If that's true, why widows are not allowed to participate in holly celebrations such as marriage? >> these are social customs. they cnage with time, place or circumstance, or preference. these are not tenets of hinduism. a marriage - hindu marriage is once in life -ideally. a widow usually chooses to not attend a marriage. she is not forbidden to. the reason is, she thinks that her sight would remind teh bride that her husband also may die. for a hindu woman this is unbearable. sho teh widow does not want to remind teh bride such a thing. so she does nto attend the marriage. << And why were widows being treated so badly in India? >> ther may be some social malpractice, but it has nothing to do with hinduism. one who follows hinduism well would not mistreat any one. most widows at one time chose to not live, and chose to burn themselves with the body of their husbands. this prevented the muslims rulers and others from using widows for sex. this sati practice now is gone. there is no need to harp on it. << Does it have anything to do with Hinduism? >> no. << And again how come Hinduism doesn't allow women to do puja in the temples??? >> i have not see it. in contrast it is the women in a family that keeps dharma and raises god loving children and propagates dharma to new generations. it is she who keeps her husband from doing something that is not dharma. a vedic verse says: yatra narays tu poojante ramante tatra devatah where ever the women is respected devas play/rejoice there.

bhai nirav, nadi ke kinare khada koi boom maare ki muze pyas lagi hai, koi paani pilao, aise aapki baat hai. you are born on the devabhoomi, and in a brahmana family. you are born and raised in the vedic culture and sanatan dharma whose book is gita. you have easy access to gita, ramayan, bhagavatam, mahabharat. please read gita (see http://www.asitis.com) then choose a yoga for you. krishna says bhakti yoga is best at this time, but you can choose any other. then practice that yoga. when you get more serious then find a guru who can guide you in the yoga of your choice. godhra is infested with some asuras. the need is to raise kshatriyas to protect the freedom of the vedic people from these asuras. remember that all varnas (brahmana, kshatriya, vaishya, and shudra) have equal access to krishna. each can go to krishna just by peforming their duty according to the instructions given in gita bykrishna. that is karma yoga. how more can i help you, bhai?

thanks for the clarification. i agree. no need to be sorry about it.

<< I am not a hindu, i am not indian, i'm not white, i'm not mexican, i'm not catholic, i'm not muslim, i am a soul. >> it does not save you from the aggressor ideologies. they will always identify you as a hindu if you are a hindu. now, yes, most hindu sknow their real identity is that they are souls. but this understanding has to be give to the invaded ideology followers, not to the hindus. foxes are killing the chickens, and a chicken is telling other chickens that they are not chickens but souls. what differenfce it makes to the foxes? why not tell the fox that he is not a fox but a soul and make him non aggresive? i have made my point. but it is up to the reader to get it or not get it.

<< madhav, we are in kali yuga.. chaitanya mahaprabhu says that everyone's a sudra and it is easy to see it >> so you are brahmana and your guru is brahmana. when terrorist shudras come and kill invading other shudra's temples and brahmanas' temples then no shudra has any right or duty to defend and fight back. right? when some one forcibly enters your home and destroyes your temple and rapes your wife, then there is no one to stop or fight with them because you and all are shudras. right? krishna says: chAturvarnam mayA sristum guna karma vibhagasah every society has these four varnas. some 2-300 years ago africa did not have kshatriyas with guns. consequently they were forcibly taken to slavery. can you see what can happen if HK's (and othres) neglect to develop kshatriyas? can any society, even Hk society, survive without some one protecting their freedom and possessions? if you say yes, then prove it by living in a muslims country like saudi arabia or pakistan.

<< (the real and definitive freedom is to go back in the spiritual world) >> when vishnu dootas were taking yudhithir to haven, they were passing by a hell. yudhisthir heard the cries of the jivas suffering pain coming from the hell at a distance. when they approaced the hell however, the crying sounds stopped. so yudhithir asked vishnu dootas why the hell is so silent. they told him that because a devotee soul like himself arrrived there, the jivas in the hell are feeling peace and no pain. suddenly yudhithri decided to not to to haven but remain in the hell. similarly if all the great souls - HK's - greedily care for for going to golok only and not care for the conditions here, what good it would bring to the future generations of people? know that all of us have taken millions of births in the past. a few more before going to the spiritual world would not make much difference. it however would make a lot difference for the future genenrations coming to this world. understand that in this time of terrorism chaitanya's message does not apply. the vedic devotee congratation has been bombed in the vedic temple by the terrorists following the asuric ideology. the time is to listen to krishna. when all terrorism stops, all asuras are killed, then follow chaitanya. krishna did not do ras lila until after he killed all the asuras.