suchandra

 

suchandra made some funny and wild observations saying manmohan singh wants to be another bush.

That indian finacial institutions want war.

 

 

 

No, this is not what I believe, I always said that my impression is that the Indian government is a shadow cabinet, puppets on a string of some super rich global players - ok may be the same as in case of G.W. Bush.

But anyway this is politics, Canakya Pandit has advised not to trust a politician. And this is how I understand this forum, it says "World review", you present your impression. Now you come up with evidence, reference and bring forward proofs? This is not how I understand this forum. Just like is there proof what actually happened behind the scenes at 9/11? No, there isn't but still people say, I believe this and my impression is that. And not that someone comes up, oh, you believe this, funny and wild observations. If someone presents his impression in politics how he sees things this is also not final, it might change according to feedback.

Such comments are rather like ad hominem attacks, inappropriate unless your purpose is to boot out people from this place.

Originally Posted by suchandra

The worm shows its teeth. Well that's your sentimental belief, you simply present your biased opinion. Therefore if you like it or not you have to accept that others do the same.

 

 

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chandu, you got a good point!

Your posts aren't appealing to me, are rather foul-mouthed and vulgar. I know that you aren't an idiot, please try again.

Yeah google and u get ideas on why earth is flat.

 

Suchandra is back to stupid theories.what a waste of life.And there is enough fodder on the net from islamic publicity machine to feed imbeciles like him.

 

Info for your stupid mind;

 

Ajmal kasab caught in the attack is a pakistani.Admitted by pakistan minister to a pakisthani news channel.

http://www.geo.tv/1-7-2009/32168.htm

 

The terrorists were conversing with their pakistani handlers

by sat phones.

 

and more at http://specials.rediff.com/news/2009/mar/17sld1-book-extract-of-mumbai-attacked.htm

The worm shows its teeth. Well that's your sentimental belief, you simply present your biased opinion. Therefore if you like it or not you have to accept that others do the same.

I don't know where you are getting the idea that "they demand that India should start a war against Pakistan."

Just use google, Mumbai terror inside job, why blame me for getting ideas?

Probably unnoticed by grown up people, food is not only meant to eat one's fill, it also provides happiness. This even seems to be more true with children.

Does Fast Food Make Children Happier?

<!-- By line --> <address class="byline author vcard">By Lisa Belkin, April 16, 2009, 3:59 pm</address> <!-- Summary --> <!-- The Content --> Food/Weight

(Illustration by Barry Falls)

Fat and sugar makes children overweight, yes, but they also make children happier. Or, technically, less unhappy.

Those are the conclusions of two nutrition researchers published this month in the Journal of Happiness Studies. The authors, Hung-Hao Chang of National Taiwan University and Rodolfo Nayga, of the University of Arkansas, used data collected from 2,366 Taiwanese children in 2001, and looked at the relationship between how much fast food (defined as French fries, pizza and hamburgers) and soft drinks (defined as beverages containing sugar) the children consumed and their psychological health.

Their central finding was that while children who ate more of the above were more likely to be overweight, they were also less likely to report being unhappy.

So what are parents supposed to do with this information?

It’s not like we didn’t already know this. Our children have made it clear, what with their clamoring for chocolate and McDonald’s. That’s because fat and sugar taste good. “How do they know they like the French Fries better than the broccoli?” I mused to a friend while we lunched with our toddlers one day. “Because they’re not stupid,” she answered. “The French fries ARE better.”

And in spite of knowing this, we think it’s good parenting to limit unhealthy foods. Nayga, himself the father of a 13-year-old, still thinks that’s a good idea; his data has not changed his long-standing policy of “moderation” and “balance” at his house, as opposed to “extremes,” he told me in an e-mail interview.

The lesson of the data, he says, is, in effect, “lighten up.” Once in a while is more effective than an outright ban, he suggests, and our parental attempts to control a child’s diet — by limiting fast foods, and encouraging healthful ones — might be more successful if we recognize the link between food and happiness, and find ways to create that “happiness” in less caloric ways. With non-food treats, perhaps, or meal time traditions, or whatever works for your particular child.

There are different facets of well-being, the authors write in their journal article: “objective (i.e. obesity)” and “subjective (i.e. unhappiness),” and “policies and programs that aim to improve children’s overall health should take these effects on children’s objective and subjective well-being into account to facilitate the reduction in childhood obesity without sacrificing children’s degree of happiness.”

In other words, have a few French fries with that broccoli and everyone will be happier. Or, at least, a little less unhappy.

Update from Lisa Belkin: A few of the comments have noted that the study was of Taiwanese children, and wondered whether the results tell us much about American kids. The researchers have the same questions. Says Nayga: “I do believe that cultural norms could lead to different results in the US. However, food preferences especially among the young seem to be converging across cultures due to various reasons. Hence, it is possible that what we found using Taiwanese data could also be true in many other countries such as the US.”

This study, he says, is not prescriptive so much as informative. An added data point to the discussion about food choices, and a hint that the equation has emotional as well as nutritional components.

I see it not as definitive so much as “food for thought.” Like so many of the posts I write here, the point is the conversation that follows, the way an idea resonates, or doesn’t, with parents.

Respectfully, Suchandra, I beg to differ:

I don't think you can equate Iraq with Pakistan. Iraq was led by a secular dictator, Saddam Hussain, who was something along the lines of Josef Stalin. Pakistan is supposed to be a democracy, although it is increasingly apparent that the country is in disarray. The war likely won't be started by the current Pakistani military, knowing the Indian strengths, as you have stated, although we cannot completely rule out the possibility, but as I have stated in other posts, if the Taliban gain control of only one Pakistani nuclear missle installation, they WILL fire the missile at India. And the fact that there are 300 million Muslims in India won't prevent them in the least. As noted previously, they are demons, and demons kill their own with no regard and no regrets. The Taliban would simply see the death of up to 300 million Muslims as a necessary sacrifice in order to destroy India. Quite an easy sacrifice, I might add, judging from their mentality and previous actions. Furthermore, you should consider that since the Taliban are basically stateless renegades, they care not in the least for world opinion, the "community of states," as you put it, and will not hesitate for a moment to launch a nuke at India. To think otherwise would be foolish as well as naive. I feel that since we have until now seen only relatively small regional skirmishes with the Taliban, that most of us are vastly underestimating their strength and determination, but they have an apparent will-to-power not unlike Adolph Hitler, and they are at least as demonic as he, if not more so.

 

Another danger, and this is possible, as far-fetched as it may presently seem, would be that the Taliban within 2-5 years actually gain political control of the whole of Pakistan. At that point, they would first likely attempt to hijack world opinion and get the western nations to capitulate to some of their demands, such as rule of Sharia law. If the west did not pacify them, it really isn't hard to imagine what would happen: they would unilaterally declare war on India, or possibly unite with other Islamic states such as Iran and Saudi Arabia, and declare war not only on India, but on Israel as well, and perhaps even on the west. It would be WW3 and it could be the final triumph of the world Islamic caliphate and the uma, the brotherhood of Islam, would have world-wide domination, if the Islamists win. And all this within 2-5 years because, frankly, the Taliban smell that the west is mainly full of godless pacifists who would rather bow towards Mecca than fight, and the moderate Islamists, although there really is no such thing, would, if given only two choices, rather support Islamic facism than support western efforts to crack down on it (Islamic facism). That is why I suggest practicing the maha-mantra on your prayer rug now, because this might actually happen, and sooner than later.

 

What about Prabhupad's prediction that WW3 would start between India & Pak. Is this correct ? Is there anything in the archives on this ? Can anyone authoritatively make a statement about this ? Personally, I see this war as inevitable, unless we all become pure devotees very shortly, and frankly I just don't see that happening. Speaking for myself only, I apparently still have too many material desires remaining to become a maha-bhagavata within what little time I have left of this lifetime.

 

Actually Joseph Stalin takes the honors for biggest demon in recent history, as he trusted no one. Even Hitler had some intimate associates.

 

And, to prove that I am at least somewhat unbiaed in all this, I was actually one of the very few who opposed the U.S. intervention in Iraq from the very start, as I could discern that most of the arguments were fabricated, and that we had no immediate concerns from Saddam Hussein. I can tell you that that was NOT a very popular opinion then, and I practically couldn't speak it at all for all the flag-waving that was going on in this country at that time.

jeffster/AMd

The Russians tried to fight against the Taliban in Afghanistan for 10 years, 1979-89, with 10,000 soldiers, they failed. Next Afghanistan war 2001 by US and installing a new government was also not very successful.

In fact they couldnt even capture Osama bin Laden. On the other side, when Lord Caitanya appeared His country was ruled by Musulmans and the acarya of the Holy Name became a Muslim born Vaishnava.

So what had happened in India, the Hindus where so much absorbed in sensual pleasures that they overslept how the cowkillers became their political leaders.

In kali-yuga it is like that, that when things are materially nicely managed, people have well-paid jobs, everything nice, they start to live like hogs and waste this human form of life.

When Prabhupada argued with Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Maharaja to first liberate India from British raja, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta said, “This so-called nationalism or any ism, they are all temporary. Real need is the self-realization.”

Of course it is horrible scenario to think of Muslims ruling our country. On the other hand, people have become so much sinful that you cannot give them material opulence, they simply become just like animals.

If the Taliban are like a gang of thieves in Pakistan, it would be the responsibility of the Pakistani government to eliminate such terror camps. Since the whole military equipment in Pakistan was set up by US, US could easily enforce that the Taliban in Pakistan are disciplined and checked.

Instead they demand that India should start a war against Pakistan. Looks rather like a conspiracy of some tricky arms dealer and not a solution for the population in general.

I cannot say that anyone is unbiased, as we are all subjective and biased, but some of these reports are simply facts, regardless of who is reporting them. There apparently IS a groundswell of Taliban energy in Pakistan that could very well overwhelm the entire country. I don't think N.Y. Times is putting much spin on this. But we could all stick our heads in the sand and pretend that this isn't happening. This is called political correctness, and it means that those who are politically correct will be forced to accede to the demands of those who are not, such as the Taliban. So get your prayer rug out, and practice the maha-mantra on it in complete silence, for that is what you may have to do before this is all over. Also, if Prabhupad indeed said that WW3 will start between India and Pak, this is the apparent run-up to it, and we should be very clearly aware of it. And it WON'T be India that starts the war, it will be Taliban-controlled Pakistan, but India should be prepared to end the war, if she has any nobility left in her.

jeffster/AMd

The Pakistani military is in chaotic condition, they would lose a war with India within one week. And they know it. Whereas with more than 1,130,000 soldiers in active service and about 1,800,000 reserve troops, the Indian Army is, after China, the world's second largest.

Actually Pakistan wouldn't even dare to fight back. When 2 million soldiers enter their country it is all over. That there is a dangerous Taliban camp in Pakistan, this they also said about Iraq. They said Iraq is an aggressor.

Now the world knows this was wrong, the allies led by US started a war of aggression against Iraq. The opposite around.

India cannot do this since they have 300 mio Muslims in their own country. They can only attack Pakistan when there is solid proof not something vage. When the community of states, including Russia, China would support such a war.

Even the 300 mio Muslims living in India must support it. Since this will never happen, there will be never a war between India and Pakistan.

Here is a link to another article detailing the Taliban's rapid rise within Pakistan. If this continues, it will directly affect all of us one day.

 

www.nytimes.com/2009/04/17/world/asia/17pstan.html?_r=1&partner=MOREOVERNEWS&ei=5040

 

jeffster/AMd

Yes, this is what the New York Times wants more than anything else, India should start a war against Pakistan.

Don't know if it is true or not but I heard that she isn't even English but is German or that her family is a German family or something like that.

Igor Grand Prince of Kiev and Olga of Kiev - ruler of Kievan Rus from 912 to 945.

Don't know if it is true or not but I heard that she isn't even English but is German or that her family is a German family or something like that.

There is no such thing as typical German, Germans are basically a mixed populace with all kind of immigrants from all parts of the world. People consider for example Hitler as typical German, but his passport doesn't say so.

You find in his passport "Jacob" and his mother's name was Schikkelgruber, so his birth name, he was begotten illegitimate, would be Adolph Jacob Schikkelgruber, a typical Jewish name. Queen Elizabeth's roots are rather in Russia.

These statements apparently were made by Peres at the Hilton hotel in Tel-Aviv on 10th October 2007..

 

http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=570735

Mahatma Gandhi: Every evil empire that has ever existed in history has collapsed. There never has been one that has endured.

Rahul Karmakar, Hindustan Times

Email Author

Guwahati, April 10, 2009

Pediatricians in Meghalaya’s capital Shillong are baffled by a baby who should have been a man.

At an age when men usually sire, Jerly Lyngdoh is trapped in the body and mind of a baby aged between one and two years. Chronologically in his 26th year, he has a head circumference that babies 9-12 months old have, measures 84 cm like any two-year-old and weighs 10 kilos.

“Jerly’s infantile features are remarkable, and the only things he shares with an adult are his teeth,” pediatrician Dr J. Ryndong told Hindustan Times from Shillong. “We think this is a case of pan-hypo pituitarism leading to poor secretion of growth hormones from pituitary glands.”

According to Ryndong — who is investigating Jerly’s case along with colleague Dr H. Giri — the 26-year-old baby isn’t exactly in the stunted growth category.

“His is a case opposite to progeria, which means advanced ageing, and we have reasons to say Jerly is a rarity.” He ruled out the genetic factor, since all six of Jerly's siblings have no physical or mental disability.

Jerly’s illiterate, agrarian parents at Sahsniang Block I village in Meghalaya’s Jaintia Hills district didn’t notice anything abnormal after his birth. However, mother Merilda Lyngdoh thought Jerly suffered from some kind of epilepsy when he turned four months.

Too poor to afford proper treatment, Merilda unsuccessfully turned to a traditional healer to cure Jerly’s epilepsy. “My folks felt Jerly had brought a curse upon the family and wanted him to be disposed of but I resisted,” she said.

A charitable society helped her bring Jerly to Shillong Civil Hospital, where he underwent treatment for 17 months before being referred to Ganesh Das Hospital. “We are looking at various factors that prevented him from growing beyond infancy and being able to speak,” said Dr Ryndong, adding that Jerly has to depend on his mother for every activity.

The pediatricians, however, pointed out that digging deep would translate into huge expenses. “We also plan to seek expertise from the medical world beyond to crack Jerly’s case,” the doctor said.

Nobody is wondering. They are watching American Idol. Everything is great!

Thanks Ancient Mariner, yes, good point, this shouldn't refer to you but to those who are still in ignorance about the redistribution of wealth.

Wednesday, 15 April 2009

Over 1,500 farmers in an Indian state committed suicide after being driven to debt by crop failure, it was reported today.

The agricultural state of Chattisgarh was hit by falling water levels.

"The water level has gone down below 250 feet here. It used to be at 40 feet a few years ago," Shatrughan Sahu, a villager in one of the districts, told Down To Earth magazine

"Most of the farmers here are indebted and only God can save the ones who do not have a bore well."

Mr Sahu lives in a district that recorded 206 farmer suicides last year. Police records for the district add that many deaths occur due to debt and economic distress.

In another village nearby, Beturam Sahu, who owned two acres of land was among those who committed suicide. His crop is yet to be harvested, but his son Lakhnu left to take up a job as a manual labourer.

His family must repay a debt of £400 and the crop this year is poor.

"The crop is so bad this year that we will not even be able to save any seeds," said Lakhnu's friend Santosh. "There were no rains at all."

"That's why Lakhnu left even before harvesting the crop. There is nothing left to harvest in his land this time. He is worried how he will repay these loans."

Bharatendu Prakash, from the Organic Farming Association of India, told the Press Association: "Farmers' suicides are increasing due to a vicious circle created by money lenders. They lure farmers to take money but when the crops fail, they are left with no option other than death."

Mr Prakash added that the government ought to take up the cause of the poor farmers just as they fight for a strong economy.

"Development should be for all. The government blames us for being against development. Forest area is depleting and dams are constructed without proper planning.

All this contributes to dipping water levels. Farmers should be taken into consideration when planning policies," he said.

This article is from The Belfast Telegraph

Israel's President Shimon Peres: "We are buying up Manhattan, Hungary, Romania and Poland". And you were wondering where all the bank bailout money went?

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Do a Google search for "balarama font converter" . There is an online application which removes most diacritics.

Right, it is here, http://www.pratyatosa.com/DiacriticsConverter.htm

suchandra, I agree that that sentence was not correct and needed to be changed. However a number of things were changed - even useful things like the relevant links that I mentioned.

 

Also as I tried to say before even when change is in order, it would seem to be better to announce it to all on the relevant forum and inform people as to why the changes are being made, if nothing else then just for a 'heads up' (devotees should know that some impersonalists had monkeyed with the page and now it is being corrected). Even better is for interested parties to agree upon the precise language - individuals taking it upon themselves to change back and forth leads to chaos (no disrespect intended towards shiva). Do you agree with anything that I have said?

Thanks Smiley, I didn't dare to go so far and pronounce on this forum that this sentence at wikipedia ("The living entities are in reality Krishna and not individuals") is not correct and that some impersonalists had monkeyed with the page. Too often they threw the book at me.

I’m looking for a tool that converts long texts with Sanskrit characters into MS word text. Example: praśāntātmā - it should instead look like this, prasantatma. Thanks for any help.

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

http://www.kinchitkaramtrust.org/index.action

flash intro:

http://www.kinchitkaramtrust.org/flash.intro.action

Also other devotees may feel disrespected and slighted. Please start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chaitanya_Mahaprabhu

Before it said, "The living entities are in reality Krishna and not individuals".

You mean to say that devotees feel disrespected when this is changed?

Unknowingly all life being brainwashed by TV, peoples' antisocial behavior has been severely manipulated. Instead of starting anti-demonstrations when fellow citizens are getting sacked, homeless or dispossessed, people have an all-night party. "Oh, our cabinet's maker workshop next door had to file bankruptcy proceedings? This is good news, I like it!"

Swiss slide into deflation signals the next chapter of this global crisis

Swiss consumer prices fell 0.4pc in March (year-on-year). Swiss CPI will be minus 1pc at least by July, nearing the level where spending psychology changes. By the time you have a self-feeding spiral, it is too late.

"This is something that we must prevent at all costs. The current situation is extraordinarily serious," said Philipp Hildebrand, a governor of the Swiss National Bank.

The SNB is not easily spooked. It is the world's benchmark bank, the keeper of the monetary flame. Yet even the SNB's hard men have thrown away the rule book, taking emergency action to force down the exchange rate of the Swiss franc.

Here lies the danger. If other countries try to export deflation by this means, we will face a second phase of the global crisis. Taiwan is already devaluing. Korea, Singapore, and Sweden all seem tempted to follow. Japan is chomping at the bit.

"We don't fully realise in the West what a catastrophic collapse Japan has suffered," says Albert Edwards, global strategist at Société Générale. "The West has dumped a large part of its economic downturn onto Japan by devaluing against the yen."

This is about to go into reverse as Tokyo hits the ping-pong ball back across the net. "As the unfolding collapse in the yen gathers pace, the West will see its green shoots incinerated to dust," he said.

Japan's industrial output fell 38pc in February (year-on-year), mostly concentrated into the last four months. No major economy imploded at this speed in the 1930s. The country has been hit by a double shock. As an export power it has taken the brunt of Anglo-Saxon belt-tightening: as the world's top creditor it is cursed by a "safe-haven" currency that soars in moments of danger – largely because the Japanese bring home their wealth till the storm passes. Normally, Japan can cope. This time, the yen's rise has pushed the economy over a cliff.

The yen must come back down to earth, and soon, or Japanese society will start to disintegrate. If necessary, the Bank of Japan will force it down by intervention, as occurred in 2003-2004.

Will China stand idly by as Japanese unleashes a shock to the global system through competitive devaluation? That depends whether you think China's spring recovery is the real thing, or an inventory build-up before the next downward slide. The Communist Party says 20m jobs have been lost since the bubble burst. This cannot be tolerated for long.

It is remarkable that China's fall into deflation has attracted so little notice. China's CPI was minus 1.6pc in February. The country has built too many factories producing goods that the world cannot absorb. The temptation is to shunt this excess capacity abroad. A faction of the politburo is already itching to devalue the yuan.

Of course, Britain has already played the currency card. That is different. The pound's fall, though welcome, is a side-effect of the Bank of England efforts to stem the credit crunch. There has been no currency intervention.

Crucially, Britain has a current account deficit. Many countries toying with devaluation are exporters with surpluses – 15.4pc of GDP for Singapore, 8.4pc for Switzerland, and 6.1pc for China. If these countries refuse to let their imbalances correct, world demand must implode.

Mr Hildebrand denies that the SNB is pursuing a "beggar-thy-neighbour' strategy. Like the yen, the franc suffers from the safe-haven curse: everybody buys it in a storm. This tightens monetary conditions. The SNB cannot easily offset this. It has already cut interest rates to near zero. There are not enough Swiss government bonds in the market to rely on the sort of "QE" asset purchases being carried out by the Bank.

Ultimately, I suspect this crisis may mark the moment when the Swiss franc loses its safe-haven role. Credit default swaps (CDS) measuring risk on five-year government debt have reached 127 for Switzerland, higher than Britain at 118. Norway has the world's lowest CDS at 48, reflecting its status as a petro-democracy.

Switzerland's banks are over-leveraged. Loans to emerging markets equal 50pc of GDP (half to Eastern Europe). Banking secrecy is dying. Fortunately for the Swiss, they have built up $700bn in net foreign assets for a rainy day. Improvident Britons are less lucky. But that is another story. What we risk now is a game of deflation "pass-the-parcel" worldwide. The economic establishment was caught off guard from 2003 to 2007 because it overlooked the way that Asia's unbalanced relationship with the West was feeding a credit bubble.

It may be caught again as the same warped structure leads to a chain of (panicked) devaluations.

Enjoy the "bear-trap" rally on global bourses this spring. But remember, we have only just begun to see the mass lay-offs and hardship caused by this slump. The politicians will act to save their skins. Markets may not like the result.

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/5110578/Swiss-slide-into-deflation-signals-the-next-chapter-of-this-global-crisis.html

I fixed it.

Thanks Shiva prabhu, this looks good!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaitanya_Mahaprabhu

Just one more thing they uploaded a pic, "Universal Form",

Wonder what this is where I put the question mark?

Sucandra, kulapavana says, you are "Wrong again"

 

Ha HA Ha! --- WARNING to all other readers:

 

You cannot immitate the Mood of Kula & sucandra! You would be a pretender if you tried. But this is a worthy goal to seek-out!

 

Old life in Iskcon for those fortunate few in its foundling years, --have all had these types of fraternal exchanges.

 

Sucandra & Kulapavana are both playing out long withheld utterances, some petty and some more or less sublime and some just in passing --but here it is with faux sparks.

The answer is given in Padma Purana, where Lord Siva states:

<center> mayavadam asac-chastram

pracchannam bauddham ucyate

mayaiva kalpitam devi

kalau brahmana-rupina

</center> "The Mayavadi philosophy is veiled Buddhism." In other words, the voidist philosophy of Buddha is more or less repeated in the Mayavadi philosophy of impersonalism, although the Mayavadi philosophy claims to be directed by the Vedic conclusions. Lord Siva, however, admits that this philosophy is manufactured by him in the age of Kali in order to mislead the atheists. "Actually the Supreme Personality of Godhead has His transcendental body," Lord Siva states. "But I describe the Supreme as impersonal. I also explain the Vedanta-sutra according to the same principles of Mayavadi philosophy."

Only one teaching from Sri Adi Sankara was quoted - not his entire philosophy.

What part of Bhaja Govindam do you disagree with?

In and of itself it seems to comport with the teachings of Bhagavad Gita.

Things are getting out of context here. Someone said above, Jesus didn't reveal very much, "but never did they describe to us a God who is fully decorated who stands with His body curved in three ways, whose eyebrows are always moving, who appears as a cowherd boy, a newly grown youth who plays the flute."

I replied above that at least Jesus taught that God is a person, whereas Shankaracarya and Lord Buddha taught voidism and mayavada.

That Shankaracarya also mentioned Bhaja Govindam is rather a hidden thing not known by many.

Officially the purpose of Shankaracarya's appearance was to teach mayavadha philosophy by misinterpreting the Vedas.

Adi Shankaracharya revealed this:

 

*Bhaja Govindam of Adi Shankara*

 

Verse 1:

BHAJA GOVINDAM, BHAJA GOVINDAM

GOVINDAM BHAJA MUDHAMATE

SAMPRAAPTE SANNIHITE KALE

NA HI NA HI RAKSHATI DUKRINKARANE

 

Seek Govinda! Seek Govinda! Seek Govinda! Oh ignoramus, at the time of death the rules of grammer, which you are trying to cram and master, will not be able to rescue you at all.

 

 

Lord Siva opined in this connection that anyone who follows Shankaracharya's principles of the Sariraka-bhasya is doomed. This is confirmed in the Padma Purana:

"My dear wife, hear my explanations of how I have spread ignorance through Mayavada philosophy. Simply by hearing it, even an advanced scholar will fall down. In this philosophy, which is certainly very inauspicious for people in general, I have misrepresented the real meaning of the Vedas and recommended that one give up all activities in order to achieve freedom from karma. In this Mayavada philosophy I have described the jivatma and Paramatma to be one and the same." How the Shankaracharya's mayavada philosophy was condemned by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and His followers is described in Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Antya-lila, Second Chapter, verses 94 through 99, where Svarupa-damodara Gosvami says that anyone who is eager to understand the Shankaracharya's mayavada philosophy must be considered insane. This especially applies to a Vaisnava who reads the Sariraka-bhasya and considers himself to be one with God. Shankaracharya's Mayavadi philosophers have presented their arguments in such attractive, flowery language that hearing Mayavada philosophy may sometimes change the mind of even a maha-bhagavata, or very advanced devotee. An actual Vaisnava cannot tolerate any philosophy that claims God and the living being to be one and the same."

Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi lila 7:110