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    Baxter: Product contained live bird flu virus


    By Helen Branswell, THE CANADIAN PRESS

    Last Updated: 27th February 2009, 3:26pm




    The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses.

    And an official of the World Health Organization’s European operation said the body is closely monitoring the investigation into the events that took place at Baxter International’s research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria.



    This is even more mysterious, today the newspaper says, Baxter Austria got the multi-million deal from the Austrian government to produce 16 million swine flu vaccine ampules.



    Aluf Benn – Haaretz May 4, 2009



    A large majority of Israeli Jews support military action aimed at destroying Iran's nuclear facilities, according to a survey sponsored by the Anti-Defamation League.


    According to the poll, co-sponsored by the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies at Bar-Ilan University, a large majority of those who support a move by the army said they would maintain their support even if the Obama administration opposed it.


    An overwhelming majority also said they believed close relations with the United States were essential for ensuring Israel's security.


    The survey, administered by the Maagar Mochot research institute, involved 610 respondents, constituting a representative sample of Israeli Jews over the age of 18.


    Asked about military action against Iran, 66 percent said they approved of it, 15 percent said they were opposed and 19 percent said they did not know. Among those who said they approved army action, 15 percent said they would change their minds if the United States opposed it, while 75 percent said they would not. The rest said they did not know or gave other answers.


    Focusing on Israeli-U.S. relations in the Obama era, the survey revealed concern over possible erosion of U.S. support for Israel, and over a rapprochement between the United States and Arab countries at the expense of Israel.


    Sixty percent of the respondents said they had a "positive" or "very positive' attitude toward President Obama. However, only 38 percent said they thought his attitude to Israel was friendly - in contrast to 73 percent of respondents in a 2007 poll, who defined the attitude of the previous president, George W. Bush, as friendly.


    Asked whether reconciliation with the Arab and Muslim world would come at the expense of Israel's interests, 63 percent said they believed it would; 71 percent, however, said the interests of the United States and Israel were "similar" or "complemented each other."


    Most Israelis, according to the poll, follow the news in America, mainly through the Israeli media.


  3. http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/politics/prachanda-quits-as-nepal-prime-minister_100188091.html


    Kathmandu, May 4 (IANS) Nepal Prime Minister Pushpa Kamal Dahal Prachanda Monday announced his resignation following a flaming row over the sacking of the army chief.




    Prachanda, Nepal’s first Maoist prime minister, announced his resignation in a televised address to the nation. He blamed Nepal’s political parties and foreign powers for hindering his government.


    Yes everyone get in line and get your Baxter flu vaccine shot now that the swine flu is a worldwide pandemic. The government is your friend, now back to American Idol.

    <center>Leading consumer health protector, Dr. Horowitz: Anglo-American Vaccine Industry Behind Swine Flu Outbreak






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    This unprecedented H1N1-H5N1 flu outbreak implicates the Anglo-American Vaccine Pipeline, says world leading consumer health protector, Dr. Leonard Horowitz

    Consider the skyrocketing stock values of Novavax, Inc., precipitated by dozens of alleged flu deaths in Mexico. Then investigate the leading Anglo-American network of genetic engineers manipulating, mutating, and distributing these viruses. The evidence compels you, for the benefit of public health and safety to seriously consider, even decree, a conspiracy to commit genocide, according to this Harvard trained expert in emerging diseases.

    Here, Dr. Horowitz urges an investigation of Dr. James S. Robertson, Englands leading bioengineer of flu viruses for the vaccine industry, and avid promoter of U.S. Government funding for lucrative biodefense contracts, along with collaborators at the US Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC). These suspects helped Novavax, Inc., in Bethesda, Maryland, produce genetically-modified recombinants of the avian, swine, and Spanish flu viruses, H5N1 and H1N1, nearly identical to the unprecedented Mexican virus that is allegedly spreading to the United States at the time of this posting. The outbreak was precisely timed to promote the companys new research and huge vaccine stockpiling contracts.

    Scientists at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) are implicated through collaborations and publications involving private contracts with Novavax, a company that obtains its biosimulars through CDC Influenza Branch director, Ruben O. Donis, and Dr. Rick Bright, previously working with Donis at the CDC, now Novavaxs Vice President of Global Influenza Programs.

    Descriptions of this virus is pathognomonic, or diagnostic, of a virus that came from Robertsons circle of friends, Dr. Horowitz charges. No other group in the world takes H5N1 Asian flu infected chickens, brings them to Europe, extracts their DNA, combines their proteins with H1N1 viruses from the 1918 Spanish flu isolate, additionally mixes in swine flu genes from pigs, then reverse engineers them to infect humans. The end product could only have ended up in Mexico via the United States from Britain in care of the CDC. The CDC had to have sent them to Novavax, where Rick Brights team is now implicated in a conspiracy to commit genocide—the mass killing of people for profit.

  5. ...we need to ask who is really controlling the U.S. military?


    Alex: President Obama and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg both claimed they had not been told of the operation in advance. In a press release, White House officials said Obama was “furious” but called the operation a “mistake.”


    At a press conference, Bloomberg said: “I’m annoyed—furious is a better word—that I wasn’t told. Why the Defense Department wanted to do a photo-op right around the site of the World Trade Center defies the imagination.”


    New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine and US Defense Secretary Robert Gates also told the press that they had not been made aware of the flight.


    This official version of events is not credible.


    How could one of two specially-designed presidential jets be requisitioned for a flight over New York City, where nearly 3,000 were killed in the 9/11 attacks, without the knowledge of the president, the mayor or high-ranking US military officials such as the defense secretary and the joint chiefs of staff? If the official story is indeed true, it raises the question of who is in control of the US military.


    Certain details of the incident raise further questions. No explanation has been given for the obsessive secrecy of the operation. By its very nature, such an undertaking—flying a presidential jet in broad daylight and at low altitude over the US’ largest city, miles from normal air traffic routes—could not remain hidden.


    The claim that the flight was needed to obtain photos of Air Force One strains credulity. In minutes, a designer using software like Photoshop could produce a convincing image, superimposing a shot of Air Force One over a picture of the Statue of Liberty. This would have saved a great deal of effort and money. Flying Air Force One cost $56,518 per hour in 2006, according to ABC News.

    The security preparations outlined in the FAA email are provocative and sinister. FAA officials anticipated that the unannounced appearance of a low-flying passenger jet over New York City would create panic. The logical conclusion is that they set out to provoke public fear in some kind of test run of the response by the state, involving numerous police agencies.


    This incident is only the latest in a series of odd and disquieting events involving the US military. In 2006, US nuclear missile parts were sent to Taiwan, reportedly by accident. In September 2007, a nuclear-armed B-52 bomber was discovered to have flown over the US without authorization. Last year, the European press leaked a US military report claiming that over 1,000 nuclear missile parts had somehow gone missing.


    Louis Caldera, the chief of the White House Military Office—the official in charge of Obama’s personal security—is being held responsible for this bizarre incident. There have been calls in the media for his removal.


    Yesterday evening, the Obama administration announced it was planning an investigation into the overflight. While many details about the incident have yet to emerge, the official story already reeks of a cover-up.


    Obama Shook Hands with Swine Flu Victim in <st1:country-region w:st="<st1:place">Mexico</st1:country-region>

    April 28, 2009

    Last night it was reported that President Barack Obama had met

    one of the possible victims earlier this month.

    He was greeted on his visit to <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mexico City</st1:place></st1:city> on April 16 by archaeologist Felipe Solis,

    who died the following day from flu-like symptoms.

    A White House spokesman confirmed yesterday that Mr Obama's health was fine.

    'The president's trip to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region> has not put his health in any danger,' he said.

    Barack Obama: The President's trip to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region> did not put his health in danger.

    The President was in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region> last week to meet with top government officials

    and talk about the growing problem of drug smuggling and border violence.

    <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s health secretary, Jose Cordova, said Mr Solis had a pre-existing

    illness and died of pneumonia unrelated to influenza.


    Only 7 swine flu deaths, not 152, says WHO



    Sidney Morning Herald – April 29, 2009



    A member of the World Health Organisation (WHO) has dismissed claims that more than 150 people have died from swine flu, saying it has officially recorded only seven deaths around the world.


    Vivienne Allan, from WHO's patient safety program, said the body had confirmed that worldwide there had been just seven deaths - all in Mexico - and 79 confirmed cases of the disease.


    Unfortunately that [150-plus deaths] is incorrect information and it does happen, but that's not information that's come from the World Health Organisation," Ms Allan told ABC Radio today.


    "That figure is not a figure that's come from the World Health Organisation and, I repeat, the death toll is seven and they are all from Mexico."


    Ms Allan said WHO had confirmed 40 cases of swine flu in the Americas, 26 in Mexico, six in Canada, two in Spain, two in Britain and three in New Zealand.


    Ms Allan said it was difficult to measure how fast the virus was spreading.


    She said a real concern would be if the flu virus manifested in a country where a person had had no contact with Mexico, and authorities were watching all countries for signs of that.


    "There is no pattern that has emerged at this stage to be able to say that it is spreading in a particular way or it is spreading into a particular country ... the situation is continuing to evolve," she said.


    She said the WHO was not recommending against overseas travel, but urged those who felt sick to stay home and others to ensure they kept their hands clean.


    No decision had yet been made about vaccinations.


    "This virus is not airborne, it's caused by droplets ... so it's not a time for worry. It's a time to be prepared," Ms Allan said.



    >> mustard


    not heard about restriction on this before, any reasons behind?


    >> hing


    for this, i really not sure if it is ok or not ?


    As it is used by certain groups to replace onions ?

    or replace garlic ?


    Hing's taste is not attractive to me,

    i don't need hing,


    but maybe someone will look for hing substitute,

    an endless replacement cycle ? :confused:

    This is because you are not educated about ayurveda. Vegetarians require protein of beans. In order to net get flatulence you cook beans with hing. Hing, asafoetida is good for digesting dahl. They make a chaunce with spices like cumin, hing, fenugreek etc. In India, people eat dahl by adding hing nearly everyday with rice or chapatis.

    But right, if you are a meat-eater you dont need hing.

  8. Looks like a new disease that never existed before:


    Mexican Reports: Flu Much Worse Than Reported


    Apr 26th, 2009 at 12:27 pm by Susie

    Once again, it looks like the internet is ahead of the official media. Comments on a BBC News site paint a much grimmer picture than we’ve been led to believe about the swine flu epidemic in Mexico. And while I’m reluctant to assume all commenters on a news site are telling the truth, I don’t think we can completely dismiss this, either. After all, Mexican authorities, already reeling from a sharp drop in tourism, have a strong financial incentive to downplay the size of this problem.

    For instance, there’s this from Antonio Chavez, a doctor working in Mexico City:


    I’m a specialist doctor in respiratory diseases and intensive care at the Mexican National Institute of Health. There is a severe emergency over the swine flu here. More and more patients are being admitted to the intensive care unit. Despite the heroic efforts of all staff (doctors, nurses, specialists, etc) patients continue to inevitably die. The truth is that anti-viral treatments and vaccines are not expected to have any effect, even at high doses. It is a great fear among the staff. The infection risk is very high among the doctors and health staff.


    There is a sense of chaos in the other hospitals and we do not know what to do. Staff are starting to leave and many are opting to retire or apply for holidays.
    The truth is that mortality is even higher than what is being reported by the authorities, at least in the hospital where I work it.
    It is killing three to four patients daily, and it has been going on for more than three weeks.
    It is a shame and there is great fear here. Increasingly younger patients aged 20 to 30 years are dying before our helpless eyes and there is great sadness among health professionals here.


    From Alvaro Ricardez, Oaxaca City, Oaxaca, Mexico:


    In the capital of my state, Oaxaca, there is a hospital closed because of a death related to the porcine influenza. In the papers they recognise only two people dead for that cause. Many friends working in hospitals or related fields say that the situation is really bad,
    they are talking about 19 people dead in Oaxaca, including a doctor and a nurse. They say they got shots but they were told not to talk about the real situation.
    Our authorities say nothing. Life goes on as usual here.


    Migdalia Cruz, Phoenix, Arizona:


    I have a sister-in-law from San Luis Potosi state in Mexico and we were told that
    in San Luis Potosi there have been at least 78 deaths, just in that city alone, not 68 in all of Mexico, as is being reported
    . Schools have been closed until 6 May in this state and in other areas in Mexico. Also, many public venues are being closed, so this makes it more deadly and dangerous than has been stated.


    Yeny Gregorio Dávila, Mexico City:


    I work as a resident doctor in one of the biggest hospitals in Mexico City and sadly, the situation is far from “under control”. As a doctor, I realise that the media does not report the truth. Authorities distributed vaccines among all the medical personnel with no results,
    because two of my partners who worked in this hospital (interns) were killed by this new virus in less than six days even though they were vaccinated as all of us were. The official number of deaths is 20, nevertheless, the true number of victims are more than 200.
    I understand that we must avoid to panic, but telling the truth it might be better now to prevent and avoid more deaths.


    It appears that Mexican authorities are sitting on information in an attempt to keep people from panicking - and of course, people are panicking because they have no real information. It sounds like everyone’s assuming that any deaths among young people from atypical pneumonia or respiratory illness were caused by the flu - a not unreasonable assumption, given the lack of information that indicates otherwise. Young, healthy people do not typically die from the flu.

    In the meantime, Veratect has activated a Twitter feed to more quickly update their public health clients, and this morning they’re tracking confirmed and suspected cases in Scotland, Costa Rica, Spain, France, Israel and New Zealand.

    The strain identified here is milder and has not yet killed anyone, but in a pandemic flu, most of the deaths occur in the second and third wave.

  9. April 26, 2009






    I am making a plea to everyone who reads this, please, please DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE THAT IS PURPORTED TO ‘PREVENT’ THIS FLU.

    Remember 1976 and the so called Swine Flu outbreak that was purported to be a coming pandemic? It only infected recruits at Ft. Dix. Why? Because I believe that the so called Swine Flu virus infected the recruits due to the vaccines they were given. Whether the government developed the Swine Flu 1976 virus and infected the recruits as a means to test the public to see if people would comply with a call to take vaccination against Swine Flu, or the recruits became infected via contaminated vaccine they were given as part of the recruit regimen, that outbreak was as phony as they come. I was one of the people duped into taking a Swine Flu shot and it made me so sick. I was sick in bed for three months after taking the vaccine.

    Do not take seasonal flu vaccine if you are told that it could help prevent this brand new Swine Flu variant. It won’t do a thing to prevent this flu. What it will do is serve up new genetic material to the Swine Flu virus that I have dubbed Spanish Flu 2, the Sequel. The Spanish Flu variant will use the gene sequences in the vaccine in humans to develop more of the changes that make the virus more readily infect humans. We do not want to give this virus more human genetic material so that it will infect humans more readily person to person. This is what vaccinated individuals do for pandemic strains.

    There is also a safety issue in any experimental vaccine, much like the one in 1976. Some people even feel that such a vaccine for pandemic strain might require more than one vaccination which could actually be a binary set up. The first shot might just add some genetic code that stays dormant in the body until one gets the second vaccine shot which then serves to only cause infection. It could trigger Guillain-barre syndrome, Typhus or some other condition.

    An Influenza vaccine does not protect or prevent a person from contracting flu. It is purported to, maybe, prevent some complications of flu and maybe shorten duration. I am not even sure it does that. Personally, I feel the vaccine weakens our immune system and also sickens us due to contaminants in the vaccine. I feel that people can better protect themselves by washing hands often and thoroughly. People should also use protective gloves when out and about during epidemics. Don’t be afraid of “looking odd.” I would not be ashamed to use a mask and gloves. I see that the Mexicans are using them.

    A big problem during a pandemic is that these simple supplies will become extremely scarce awfully quickly. Stock up now. Medical supplies. personal hygene supplies and don’t forget fido, or any other pet. Once a pandemic hits, it will be too late to stock up. Water, too.

    We may lose clean water and electric power, so be prepared.


    Patricia A. Doyle DVM, PhD Bus Admin, Tropical Agricultural Economics Univ of West Indies. Please visit my “Emerging Diseases” message board at: http://www.emergingdisease.org/phpbb/index.php Also my new website: http://drpdoyle.tripod.com/ Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa Go with God and in Good Health

  10. Summary by John Mueller:


    The Taliban and al Qaeda may not pose enough of a threat to the United States to make a long war in Afghanistan worth the costs.



    JOHN MUELLER is Professor of Political Science at Ohio State University. Among his books are Overblown: How Politicians and the Terrorism Industry Inflate National Security Threats, and Why We Believe Them and the forthcoming Atomic Obsession: Nuclear Alarmism from Hiroshima to Al Qaeda.




    George W. Bush led the United States into war in Iraq on the grounds that Saddam Hussein might give his country’s nonexistent weapons of mass destruction to terrorists. Now, Bush’s successor is perpetuating the war in Afghanistan with comparably dubious arguments about the danger posed by the Taliban and al Qaeda.

    President Barack Obama insists that the U.S. mission in Afghanistan is about "making sure that al Qaeda cannot attack the U.S. homeland and U.S. interests and our allies" or "project violence against" American citizens. The reasoning is that if the Taliban win in Afghanistan, al Qaeda will once again be able to set up shop there to carry out its dirty work. As the president puts it, Afghanistan would "again be a base for terrorists who want to kill as many of our people as they possibly can." This argument is constantly repeated but rarely examined; given the costs and risks associated with the Obama administration’s plans for the region, it is time such statements be given the scrutiny they deserve.

    Multiple sources, including Lawrence Wright's book The Looming Tower, make clear that the Taliban was a reluctant host to al Qaeda in the 1990s and felt betrayed when the terrorist group repeatedly violated agreements to refrain from issuing inflammatory statements and fomenting violence abroad. Then the al Qaeda-sponsored 9/11 attacks -- which the Taliban had nothing to do with -- led to the toppling of the Taliban’s regime. Given the Taliban’s limited interest in issues outside the "AfPak" region, if they came to power again now, they would be highly unlikely to host provocative terrorist groups whose actions could lead to another outside intervention. And even if al Qaeda were able to relocate to Afghanistan after a Taliban victory there, it would still have to operate under the same siege situation it presently enjoys in what Obama calls its "safe haven" in Pakistan.

    The very notion that al Qaeda needs a secure geographic base to carry out its terrorist operations, moreover, is questionable. After all, the operational base for 9/11 was in Hamburg, Germany. Conspiracies involving small numbers of people require communication, money, and planning -- but not a major protected base camp.

    Given the Taliban’s limited interest in issues outside the “AfPak” region, if it came to power again now, it would be highly unlikely to host provocative terrorist groups whose actions could lead to another outside intervention.

    At present, al Qaeda consists of a few hundred people running around in Pakistan, seeking to avoid detection and helping the Taliban when possible. It also has a disjointed network of fellow travelers around the globe who communicate over the Internet. Over the last decade, the group has almost completely discredited itself in the Muslim world due to the fallout from the 9/11 attacks and subsequent counterproductive terrorism, much of it directed against Muslims. No convincing evidence has been offered publicly to show that al Qaeda Central has put together a single full operation anywhere in the world since 9/11. And, outside of war zones, the violence perpetrated by al Qaeda affiliates, wannabes, and lookalikes combined has resulted in the deaths of some 200 to 300 people per year, and may be declining. That is 200 to 300 too many, of course, but it scarcely suggests that "the safety of people around the world is at stake," as Obama dramatically puts it.

    In addition, al Qaeda has yet to establish a significant presence in the United States. In 2002, U.S. intelligence reports asserted that the number of trained al Qaeda operatives in the United States was between 2,000 and 5,000, and FBI Director Robert Mueller assured a Senate committee that al Qaeda had "developed a support infrastructure" in the country and achieved both "the ability and the intent to inflict significant casualties in the U.S. with little warning." However, after years of well funded sleuthing, the FBI and other investigative agencies have been unable to uncover a single true al Qaeda sleeper cell or operative within the country. Mueller's rallying cry has now been reduced to a comparatively bland formulation: "We believe al Qaeda is still seeking to infiltrate operatives into the U.S. from overseas."

    Even that may not be true. Since 9/11, some two million foreigners have been admitted to the United States legally and many others, of course, have entered illegally. Even if border security has been so effective that 90 percent of al Qaeda’s operatives have been turned away or deterred from entering the United States, some should have made it in -- and some of those, it seems reasonable to suggest, would have been picked up by law enforcement by now. The lack of attacks inside the United States combined with the inability of the FBI to find any potential attackers suggests that the terrorists are either not trying very hard or are far less clever and capable than usually depicted.

    Policymakers and the public at large should keep in mind the words of Glenn Carle, a 23 year veteran of the CIA who served as deputy national intelligence officer for transnational threats: "We must see jihadists for the small, lethal, disjointed and miserable opponents that they are." Al Qaeda "has only a handful of individuals capable of planning, organizing and leading a terrorist operation," Carle notes, and "its capabilities are far inferior to its desires."

    President Obama has said that there is also a humanitarian element to the Afghanistan mission. A return of the Taliban, he points out, would condemn the Afghan people "to brutal governance, international isolation, a paralyzed economy, and the denial of basic human rights." This concern is legitimate -- the Afghan people appear to be quite strongly opposed to a return of the Taliban, and they are surely entitled to some peace after 30 years of almost continual warfare, much of it imposed on them from outside.

    The problem, as Obama is doubtlessly well aware, is that Americans are far less willing to sacrifice lives for missions that are essentially humanitarian than for those that seek to deal with a threat directed at the United States itself. People who embrace the idea of a humanitarian mission will continue to support Obama's policy in Afghanistan -- at least if they think it has a chance of success -- but many Americans (and Europeans) will increasingly start to question how many lives such a mission is worth.

    This questioning, in fact, is well under way. Because of its ties to 9/11, the war in Afghanistan has enjoyed considerably greater public support than the war in Iraq did (or, for that matter, the wars in Korea or Vietnam). However, there has been a considerable dropoff in that support of late. If Obama's national security justification for his war in Afghanistan comes to seem as spurious as Bush's national security justification for his war in Iraq, he, like Bush, will increasingly have only the humanitarian argument to fall back on. And that is likely to be a weak reed.<!-- /node-inner, /node --><!--googleoff: index--><!--googleoff: snippet-->


    Why are u attracted to guessing work???.Why do u high light the guess work as EVIDENCE????


    Did prabhupada teach you to revel in blogs with wild guesses?


    Is that the spirituality he taught you???.


    Why dont spend time in chants instead of spamming the forum

    with copy pastes from masala blogs???

    Article above seems to have defeated you, therefore you come up with personal insult.

    Hopefully the readers of the forum can see through your character.


    Suchandra highlights


    "the evidence indicated that Indian authorities had aided the terrorists"..

    What evidence.Let us discuss.

    Evidence? Guess there's no real evidence in politics, there are rather irregularities which raise suspicion.

    Just like bankers have to finance both sides of every war, and Afghanistan/Pakistan is no exception. As they have pilfered the US government's credit card, this means the American tax payer is paying for the Taliban.


    And since Barack Obama is sending an additional 68,000 soldiers there, "over the next several years", this won't be small change.


    The role of US "leadership" is to shepherd these funds through Congress i.e. the credit card terminal. Last week, Hillary Clinton sounded like she was criticizing Pakistan but she was actually campaigning for $7.5 billion in economic aid and $3 billion in military assistance for Pakistan over the next five years. She said this money is needed for more "government services." No doubt, this includes payment for providing America with an enemy.


    However, the bankers love to hide in plain sight. Just Google "Pakistan Aid to Taliban" and discover what US legislators and media pretend they don't know. The Taliban is financed, trained and run by Pakistan's Interservices Intelligence Agency, ISI. The ISI is a branch of the CIA, In October 2006, NATO clearly identified the Taliban as an ISI operation:


    "NATO is now mapping the entire Taliban support structure in Balochistan, from ISI - run training camps near Quetta to huge ammunition dumps, arrival points for Taliban's new weapons and meeting places of the shura, or leadership council, in Quetta, which is headed by Mullah Mohammed Omar, the group's leader since its creation a dozen years ago.


    In Panjwai the Taliban had also established a training camp to teach guerrillas how to penetrate Kandahar, a separate camp to train suicide bombers and a full surgical field hospital. NATO estimated the cost of Taliban ammunition stocks at around £2.6 million. "The Taliban could not have done this on their own without the ISI," said a senior NATO officer."


    This may explain why Pakistan which has an army of 500,000 and a like number of reservists, has shown no appetite for confronting the Taliban. The country is probably run by the ISI.


    In August 2008, George W. Bush read the riot act to the Pakistanis (wink, wink):


    "President George W Bush confronted Yusuf Raza Gillani, Pakistan's prime minister, in Washington last week with evidence of involvement by the ISI, its military intelligence, in a deadly attack on the Afghan capital and warned of retaliation if it continues. ... Gillani, on his first official US visit since being elected in February, was left in no doubt that the Bush administration had lost patience with the ISI's alleged double game."


    Paradoxically, the US is using the Taliban as an excuse to fund the Pakistanis! Last week:


    "Gen. David Petraeus urged Congress to approve $3 billion in aid to Pakistan for training its troops to fight insurgents in tribal areas. The most important, most pressing threat to the very existence of their country is the threat posed by the internal extremists and groups such as the Taliban and the syndicated extremists," Petraeus told a House panel Friday. Petraeus is the top U.S. commander overseeing troops in Pakistan and Afghanistan."


    So let's see if we can keep this straight. The US is fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan while using the Taliban as an excuse to fund Pakistan who is maintaining the Taliban. (From Pakistani viewpoint, the Taliban is the reason they are getting all this money.)


    Meanwhile Pakistan is a nuclear power. But it is not our enemy. We are about to blow up the Middle East because Iran might become a nuclear power.


    Related, The British May be Helping ISI Train the Taliban



    The Taliban Opium Connection



    "NATO Spooked by Afghan Laws Upholding Patriarchy"

  13. Steve Watson, Thursday, March 5, 2009: The mainstream media has embraced suggestions of an “inside job”, as evidence continues to mount that Tuesday’s attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team was a carefully staged event, rather than a hit and run strike. Articles in the Independent, the Times, the Daily Mail, Agence France-Presse, and the Telegraph have today focused on unanswered questions and suspicious activity regarding the attack which which killed six police and two civilians, and wounded 19 people.



    The evidence that the attack was carefully coordinated has been summarized as follows.



    None of the 12 gunmen were killed or captured and CCTV footage has emerged of some of the attackers making a leisurely getaway from the scene in the aftermath of the assault, past an approaching police vehicle, without the security forces chasing them:





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    On the first two days of the Test match, the Sri Lanka and Pakistan team buses had left together. However, as umpire Chris Broad has revealed, on Tuesday the Pakistan bus left five minutes after the Sri Lanka bus.



    “On this particular day, the Pakistan bus left five minutes after the Sri Lankan bus. Why?” Broad said. “It went through my mind as we were leaving the hotel: ‘Where is the Pakistan bus?”



    Broad said Pakistan security forces had left the convoy vehicles like “sitting ducks” and that there was “not a sign of a policeman anywhere” when the attack began.



    “There were times in the Karachi Test when the Sri Lankans went first and the Pakistanis went afterwards. But after this happened you think My God, did someone know something and they held the Pakistan bus back?” Broad added at a press conference yesterday.



    Simon Taufel, an Australian umpire caught in the attack, also confirmed that their bus had been left unprotected once the assault began.


    “You tell me why supposedly 20 armed commandos were in our convoy and when the team bus got going again, we were left on our own? I don’t have any answers to these questions.” Taufel said.

    Another umpire, Steve Davis commented: “I saw a (man in) uniform with a pistol and I thought this is an insider come to do us away.”

    The umpires were backed by Muttiah Muralitharan, the most successful bowler in Test history, who questioned whether the terrorists had inside information.

    “Somehow in this incident there were no police with guns on the bus,” the Sri Lankan spinner told the radio station FIVEaa in Adelaide. “If someone was there with a gun we would have had a chance of defending ourselves.

    “Normally all the buses go and we have four or five escorts. We left at 8.30am and Younus Khan [with the Pakistan team bus] at 8.35am. We divided into two - maybe they knew the information for the right time.” Muralitharan added.

    These factors and comments have been presented by the mainstream media in a way that intimates that it is possible that Pakistani intelligence was involved in the attacks, or allowed them to happen.

    Of course, this is a possibility, however, it should be noted that six Pakistani security officials were killed in the attack as they attempted to defend the Sri Lankan bus, and other witnesses such as Mehar Mohammed Khalil, the Pakistani driver of the Sri Lankan bus, have disputed the allegation that the Pakistani bus left five minutes later and that the police protection was not present.

    Last November, after the Mumbai attacks took place, the corporate media and Indian authorities pointed the finger at Pakistani intelligence, providing a perfect pretext for expanded U.S. military aggression against the country, as promised by then President-elect Barack Obama.

    However, as we revealed in our reports at the time, the evidence indicated that Indian authorities had aided the terrorists. It is interesting to note that the mainstream media did little to pursue this angle, yet this time around every major outlet has highlighted the “inside job” theory almost immediately.

    Further questions regarding Tuesday’s attack have arisen from the leak of a “secret” report which fore-warned the federal and provincial Punjab governments that India was planning an attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team.

    The report, dated Jan 22, warned officials: “It has reliably been learnt that RAW [the Research and Analysis Wing, India's intelligence agency] has assigned its agents the task to target Sri Lankan cricket team during its current visit to Lahore, especially while travelling between the hotel and stadium or at hotel during their stay … Extreme vigilance and heightened security arrangements indicated.”

    However, the government in Punjab and its senior security officials, who were preparing for the Sri Lankan team’s visit, were removed from office by a controversial court ruling days ahead of the test match.

    Rehman Malik, Pakistani chief interior ministry adviser, has claimed “a foreign hand” lay behind the attack on the cricketers – which has been widely interpreted as pointing the finger at India.

    Malik said: “We suspect a foreign hand behind this incident. The democracy of the country has been undermined, and foreigners are repeatedly attacked to harm the country’s image.”

    Malik is said to have “shared” the assessment of the country’s ISI intelligence agency with the FBI director Robert Mueller.

    Some Pakistani newspapers have suggested that the Indian intelligence service was involved and that the weapons found at the site of the attack bore Indian markings.

    Mehar Mohammed Khalil, the Pakistani driver of the Sri Lankan bus, has also said he believes the terrorists are from India. He said: ‘Their complexions were Indian-type. They were definitely not Pakistani.’

    Furthermore, it has been pointed out that similarities exist between the estimated 12 suspected militants who launched the attack in Lahore and those who launched the Mumbai attacks which left more than 170 people dead last year. Both groups of men were young and clean-cut, wore Western clothes and backpacks, and were heavily armed.

    The Press Trust of India has reported that a visiting Pakistani peace delegation has branded the incident as “Mumbai No 2 with same people behind it”.

    With allegations of Pakistani intelligence involvement and Indian intelligence involvement, it must also be noted that the region is strategically important, both states are nuclear and other globalist led intelligence agencies such as the CIA, Mossad and MI6 have much to gain from playing off India and Pakistan against each other.

    However, once again, the overriding story that is being sold paints Pakistan as the problem state.

    Will this latest tragedy be used as another excuse to expand the war on terror and increase U.S. military activity inside Pakistani territory?

    Yesterday the top American diplomat in Kabul warned that Pakistan is now a bigger threat than Afghanistan.

    “From where I sit [Pakistan] sure looks like it’s going to be a bigger problem,” Christopher Dell, who runs the U.S. embassy in Kabul, said.

    “It is certainly one of those nuclear-armed countries the instability of which is a bigger problem for the globe. Pakistan is a bigger place, has a larger population, it’s nuclear-armed. It has certainly made radical Islam a part of its political life, and it now seems to be a deeply ingrained element of its political culture. It makes things there very hard.”


    because we do not have any control or choice in our life.





    Just like sometimes foolish persons, they say that “Krsna, God, has kept me in this way. According to His desire, I am now in this position because nothing can happen without His desire.”


    This argument they say. That is another rascaldom. So Prahlada Maharaja clears, therefore, that baddhah sva-karmabhih: “It is not desired by You. I have created this situation.”

    Baddhah sva-karmabhih. I have been put into this condition by my own work, sva-karmabhir. Baddhah sva-karmabhir usattama. You cannot overcome this resultant action of your karma. You must suffer. The same example: just like if you infect some contaminous disease, you must suffer, similarly, we are creating karma and we are suffering.


    Baddhah sva-karmabhih. My work. Sastra does not say that you steal. Nobody says. Neither sastra says, nor the moral codes say, nor the law, government law, say that “You can steal whatever you like.” No. Everybody says… The government says, “Don’t steal.” The sastra, scriptures, they also say, “Don’t drink. Don’t steal. Don’t do this. Don’t.” All forbidden. But I steal. So that is sva-karmabhih. There is forbidding everywhere, but still, I steal. Then whose fault it is? It is government’s fault or my fault? If I kill, I’ll be hanged. “Thou shall not kill.” Lord Christ says, “Thou shall not kill.” But if I kill, then I must suffer. But they say, give some false argument, “Lord Christ says, ‘Thou shall not kill’ and if I kill, Christ has taken the contract that whatever sinful activities we do, he will excuse.” This is Christian document. They say that “Our Christ is so kind that whatever sinful activities we do, he will suffer for us.” Is it not? This is Christian theory. Just see foolishness. “You do something, and I suffer for that.” No. You have to suffer. You have done something wrong; you must suffer. This is the real philosophy, sva-karmabhih usattama te ’nghri-mulam pritah apavarga-saranam.

    So we are very much entangled in this material world. One should be very much afraid. Prahlada Maharaja says… Prahlada Maharaja was not afraid of Nrsimha-murti, but he is very much afraid of this material existence. It is really very, very fearful. People do not know the seriousness of material existence, and they continue and waste their, the chance, human being. Human form of life is a chance to rectify, but they do not care. Therefore the Krsna consciousness movement is so important. Everyone, door to door, a devotee has to go and teach them that “You are leading a very, very irresponsible life. Be responsible to your consciousness and be a devotee of Krsna. That will save you.”

    Thank you very much. (end)


    Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.16

    by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

    Mayapur, February 23, 1976

  15. * WHO concerned at US outbreak, 800 flu-like cases in Mexico


    * Activates command centre for acute health events


    * Mexican authorities to announce test results on Friday



    GENEVA, April 24 (Reuters) - The World Health Organisation (WHO) voiced concern on Friday at a confirmed outbreak of swine flu in the United States and what it called more than 800 human "influenza-like" cases in Mexico, including about 60 deaths.


    The United Nations agency said it had activated its Strategic Health Operations Centre (SHOC) -- its command and control centre for acute public health events -- but could not say whether it was considering issuing a travel advisory.


    U.S. public health officials said on Thursday that seven people had been diagnosed with a new kind of swine flu in California and Texas, while Mexican authorities were due to announce test results later on Friday, WHO spokesman Gregory Hartl said in Geneva.


    "We are in daily contact with U.S., Canadian and Mexican authorities," Hartl told Reuters.


    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that the virus was a never-before-seen mixture of viruses typical among pigs, birds and humans. All 7 American patients had recovered.


    WHO spokeswoman Fadela Chaib said Mexican authorities had noticed unusual activity at the end of the flu season in March and April.


    "To date there have been some 800 suspected cases with flu-like illness, with 57 deaths in the Mexico City area.


    "Similar cases have since been found in San Luis Potosi in central Mexico. The number of suspected cases is 24 suspected cases and 3 deaths," she told a news briefing.


    Mexican Health Minister Jose Angel Cordoba said that it was cancelling classes for millions of children in the heart of the country on Friday after influenza killed around 20 people in recent weeks. Mexico's flu season had extended for longer this year. (Reporting by Stephanie Nebehay; Editing by Janet Lawrence)

  16. One Molecule Away From Plastic


    12532%20-%20300%20leonidas%20madness%20margarine%20sparta.jpgFrom our friends at the MISCOWP Vedic Village


    Pass The Butter Please...This is interesting


    Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed

    the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the research wanted a

    payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with this

    product to get their money back. It was a white substance with no food appeal

    so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in place of

    butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever new



    DO YOU KNOW? the difference between margarine and butter?


    Read on to the end...gets very interesting!


    Both have the same amount of calories.


    Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5



    Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over

    eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study.


    Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other



    Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few

    only because they are added!


    Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of

    other foods.


    Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for

    less than 100 years .


    And now, for Margarine..


    Very high in Trans fatty acids.


    Triple risk of coronary heart disease.

    Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and

    lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol)


    Increases the risk of cancers up to five fold.


    Lowers quality of breast milk.


    Decreases immune response.


    Decreases insulin response.


    And here's the most disturbing fact.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY



    Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC..


    This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and

    anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the

    molecular structure of the substance).


    You can try this yourself:


    Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area.

    Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things:


    * no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that should

    tell you something)


    * it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional

    value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny microorganisms will not

    a find a home to grow. Why? Because it is nearly plastic. Would you melt

    your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?


    Share This With Your Friends... (If you want to 'butter them up')!


    Chinese Proverb:

    'When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it,

    you have a moral obligation to share it with others.


    Anybody can do a Google search and find out.

    Hitler's guru was a woman.





    Many Americans still believe that Hitler was an educated mastermind who controlled millions of people by his words. Wrong, Hitler as well Stalin were both rather stupid and uneducated posers - they never would understand the meaning to follow a guru.


    It is said that Hitler and Stalin had a secret agreement for the division of Europe; that Hitler gave Stalin permission to invade Nazi ally Finland and Stalin aided in the Nazi invasion of Norway.


    When the Luftwaffe bombed Poland, their planes were guided by navigational beams from Kiev. Communist parties in Europe were instructed to sabotage opposition to the Nazis and French Communists addressed their Nazi occupiers as "comrades."


    What these charismatic impostors, Hitler and Stalin, did was following the script written by their banker sponsors. Both these 'isms in Germany and Russia were really about slaughter and nothing else. More people could be killed by having them clash than collaborate.


    There's a lot of good points here but without getting bent out of shape I think that "ISKCON Guru" is first and foremost a title. The actual position is much more like that of a prison minister who is also a prisoner. They are typically not free or liberated yet, not Christ, but have attained that tentative status due to their good behavior.


    A recent GBC resolution requests that all aspiring initiates be directed to Srila Prabhupada as their only siksa-guru for 6 months. After which time I guess they can pick their chaplain or run to Bangalore :eek:

    Thanks rasa_prada, good point to chose a humorous approach (Hi, I'm a ritvik who supports ISKCON and reads Narayana Maharaja). As Risharayas reports from Chennai, he feels like showering in total mercy all day.


    All over Europe we had a total break down - all ISKCON gurus fell down and had to be replaced past years, yes, like you say, prison minister who is also a prisoner.


    Concerning Christ, the great acaryas of India never said the he's not the son of God and the way he's worshiped by ritviks is false, no acarya ever said like this, here you are presenting your personal opinion.


    There is nothing wrong you can believe what you like, but why Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, Nimbarka, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta, Srila Bhaktivinoda never mentioned that Christ is nothing but a conditioned soul?


    Run to Bangalore, guess people rather stay away from Vaishnavism when things look so chaotic.


    I have WAY TOO MUCH respect for the Vedic monism to equate that path with Islam. Do you see Vedic monists running around butchering people in the name of their religion? No you do not. That makes them infinitely more advanced in my book.


    Islam is it's own category in the religious sphere. There is no need to artificially lump it with other doctrines.

    "TOO MUCH respect for the Vedic monism" = contaminated by monism.


    It was Lord Caitanya Himself who said that Islam is contaminated by monism.

    In other words, there might be monists who follow the 4 regs to gain power, but the philosophy of monism itself has a strong lack of credibility to follow such strict disciplines.

    As the Dalai Lama brings it to the point, it is good to refrain, but you don't need to follow disciplines.


    Here is another report that just came out on the Talibanization of Pakistan. Thus far, the Pakistani military has mounted no serious opposition to the Taliban, so the Taliban have just gained another chunk of land closer to the capital. Let's hope that the Pakistani gov't and military wake up and do the right thing before it is too late.





    Ok, US has send today 21,000 more troops to Pakistan, hope things are under control now.


    Clinton says Pakistan is abdicating to the Taliban



    Arshad Mohammed – Reuters April 23, 2009


    Pakistan's government has abdicated to the Taliban in agreeing to impose Islamic law in the Swat valley and the country now poses a "mortal threat" to the world, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday.


    Surging violence across Pakistan and the spread of Taliban influence through its northwest are reviving concerns about the stability of the nuclear-armed country, an important U.S. ally vital to efforts to stabilize neighboring Afghanistan.


    U.S. President Barack Obama, who on March 27 unveiled a new strategy that seeks to crush al Qaeda and Taliban militants in Afghanistan and those operating from across the border in Pakistan, meets the presidents of both countries May 6-7.


    The talks illustrate U.S. anxiety that Afghanistan could again become a haven for al Qaeda militants to launch foreign attacks more than seven years after U.S.-led forces toppled the Afghan Taliban regime that sheltered the September 11 attackers.


    Speaking to U.S. lawmakers, Clinton said the Pakistani government had to provide basic services to its people or risk seeing the Taliban, and other extremists, fill the vacuum.





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    Under pressure from conservatives, Zardari earlier this month signed a regulation imposing Islamic law in Swat, a northwestern valley once one of Pakistan's most popular tourist destinations.


    Asked about the matter, Clinton bluntly replied: "I think that the Pakistani government is basically abdicating to the Taliban and to the extremists."


    Speaking before the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Clinton said, ominously, that the situation in Pakistan "poses a mortal threat to the security and safety of our country and the world."


    Swat was a major tourist spot until 2007, when militants infiltrated the valley from strongholds on the Afghan border to the west in support of a radical cleric.






    After inconclusive military offensives and a failed peace agreement, Pakistani authorities accepted an Islamist demand for sharia, or Islamic law, in February.


    Teresita Schaffer, a former U.S. diplomat who served in Pakistan and now heads the South Asia program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies think tank in Washington, said many analysts share Clinton's assessment.


    "There is deep concern in the U.S. government, and elsewhere in this country, about the implications of the deal in Swat," Schaffer said. "It represents a cession of state authority to people who have been slitting the throats of policemen in the public square."


    Schaffer said she did not believe Clinton viewed the Pakistani state itself as a mortal threat.


    Rather, she said Clinton may have been suggesting that events in the country, where militants are believed to have plotted foreign attacks and set off a series of domestic suicide bombings in the last month, threaten other nations.


    The White House says the May 6-7 talks between Obama, Karzai and Zardari will include a three-way meeting. The talks represent the U.S. president's effort to ease tensions and forge more cooperation between the two countries.


    Kabul has accused Islamabad of not doing enough to stop militants crossing the border to launch attacks in Afghanistan. However, ties have improved under Zardari, whose country is facing its own Islamist insurgency.


    Obama has authorized the deployment of 21,000 additional U.S. troops and hundreds of new diplomatic and other civilian officials to Afghanistan to try to quell the Taliban insurgency in the south and the east of that country.


    A senior U.S. commander said U.S. and NATO forces were close to achieving "irreversible momentum" in their battle with insurgents in eastern Afghanistan, saying this was partly due to an influx of some 4,000 U.S. troops to the area this year.




    (Additional reporting by Sue Pleming, Andrew Gray, Matt Spetalnick and Paul Eckert; editing by Todd Eastham)



    Suchandra: Just because we differ in our reading of these events, and just because you cannot defeat us in this debate is no reason to call us karmis.


    You didn't prove anything what you claim is the truth. It is all your subjective opinion, and then you say I cannot defeat your opinion? Please re-read what you posted above.

    You just presented this as proof:

    Pakistani intelligence chiefs have admitted that the terrorists involved in last week’s attack on Mumbai were Pakistani nationals the US has told India. Meanwhile, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has reportedly warned Pakistan to act urgently "otherwise, the US will act”.

    For me your, "the US has told India", this doesn't say anything, sorry.


    Suchandra, i know you have a difficulty in reading what you wrote and the response of others.

    Just look at what you wrote in the other thread i mentioned.




    Just read it.


    I understand know, yourself, jeffster, bhaktajan, you all see things from the karmi platform because you are all karmis. Therefore you're correct from your karmi platform of seeing things it might look as you say, right.

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