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Hare Krishna, Mahaprabhu. Regarding your original question, I have no view about wicca. About witchcraft I can say that I read the episode when Krishna was a baby in Vrindabana and there was a powerful witch named Putana that wanted to kill baby Krishna by offering Him some milk straight from her poisoned nipples, so baby Krishna sucked the milk from her breast but instead of dying He took away the life of Putana until she died and then somehow her body became very large so every body in the town could see her dead body. From this episode we can conclude that witches are women living in passion and ignorance under the demoniac nature so their minds are twisted, and still somehow they can acquire certain mystic powers that can work against those persons without a strong spiritual life. However, for those in Krishna Consciousness there is always shelter at Krishna's lotus feet in order to get protection from witches. Now, if we take a look at our modern society we can find that many countries celebrate Halloween as a party day, right? Moreover, my first girlfriend in the past calls herself "The Witch" and so she is because she was very beautiful and at the same time very mean. Actually, I believe that she putted some kind of spell on me because I still remember her spellbound-kiss, lol. Hopefully someday she will remember her eternal position as a servant of Krishna, but that's not my business. Finally I'd like to conclude with the following sentence, "We all know that witches don't exist, but that there are some, there are some." Lol. So watch out, Mahaprabhu, watch out, especially if they happen to have beautiful eyes and beautiful smile and beautiful hair and beautiful mouth and beautiful every thing, 'cause the worst thing that can happen to you is falling in love with one of those pretty witches, lol. And who knows how long may take to find another woman in order to replace her, if ever possible at all. Witchcraft? Tell me something new. Hare Krishna.

In January 2005 I accomplished 16 bhakti yoga KC programs and 2 Ekadasis. Here I go for February, Feb. 4, Night, Kirtana 30'... Bhagavad-gita I:1 and Purport... 2 japa rounds. *** Feb. 5, Whole day, Ekadasi (fast from grains and beans) OK. *** Feb. 7, Night, 3 japa rounds. *** It seems I started this month slow, I guess is due to my job, finally I had some success with two customers. Anyway I had to request a loan from my company in order to get through with the basics -paying the rent and food-. Now that I quit going to the karaoke and playing karmi cd's at home -rock and pop music- I'm feeling very strange. I know that I must listen only to KC music because is devotional, while rock and pop are only sense gratification music, so I must overcome this boring sensation day after day until getting used to listen only to KC music. I must save some lakshmi somehow and make a trip to a KC comunity, maybe an ISKCON center. In the meantime this web page is my only way to communicate with KC devotees. Hare Krishna.

"that form is krishna. even if it doesnt look like him, krishna has many forms." Mahaprabhu. I agree with this idea, therefore Krishna is Allah and Yaveh or Jeovah and Buda, of course. He is the same God but He is seen from different angles under different names.

No comments. Hare Krishna.

On January 24 I was able to defeat my sense gratification desire of going to the karaoke so I stayed home and did my KC program and I also quit already listening to karmi music at home, only KC music, except for one tape of classical music and one rock cd That I use in order to do some personal exercise, but that's all, and as soon as I buy more KC cd's I will surely replace these ones too. So these are my last KC records, Jan. 24, Night, Kirtana 40'... Bhagavad-gita, Illustrations Ch.13-15, Plates 40-43, ... 2 japa rounds. *** Jan. 25, Morning, Kirtana 30'... Bhagavad-gita, Illustrations Ch.16-18, Plates 44-51, ... 2 japa rounds. *** Jan. 28, Morning, Kirtana 40'... Bhagavad-gita, Introduction, pages xix-xxvi, ... 3 japa rounds. *** Jan. 29, Night, Kirtana 30'... Bhagavad-gita, Introduction, pages xxvii-xxxv, ... 7 japa rounds. *** Jan. 31, Morning, Kirtana 30'... Bhagavad-gita, The Disciplic Succession, ... 1 japa round. *** Well, my bhakti yoga programs are doing better, hopefully my job results get better too because I haven't had luck in sales lately and I'm almost out of Lakshmi. I wish I knew why suddenly Krishna takes away all of my money. Is it some kind of a joke? Hare Krishna.

Hare Krishna, amit1. Your wish is nice, if this planet would be ruled by Krishna Consciousness (KC)leaders then everything would be better. Actually, by reading Srimad Bhagavatam we can learn that many years ago the main political leaders of the world were KC people, like Maharaja Pariksit, for example. However, we must remember and acknowledge that we are now in the age of Kali, the worst of times, therefore there is no chance that the wonderful days of Satya yuga will come back. Kali people is very large in numbers now, actually must of us in this forum have been born from Kali parents, that is people that were not following the 4 regulative principles nor chanting japa nor kirtanas. So it's a great luck that we have been able to find out Prabhupada's books and devotees in order to have a chance to get out from the clutches of Kali. Now, pretending to convince human kind to become KC people is out of the question. The best we can do is trying to follow our bhakti yoga practices as much as we can. Can you imagine the big business companies deciding to cancel selling beer and wine and all types of alcoholic beverages? They tried this before in USA during the 30's, remember Elliot Ness and the untouchables? It couldn't work because large amounts of people were requesting the right to drink alcohol until finally it became legal. Same happens with tobacco, and lately abortion, and gays getting married. As we can see, the whole situation is getting worse and worse. That's why Lord Sri Krishna's next appereance on Earth will be in the form of Kalki, ridding a white horse and holding a sword in order to kill many demons and thus liberating them from their unlimited lust. Those demons wil be the sons of the sons of the future generations on this planet, so as we can see the only future of this planet is destruction at the end of Kali yuga. However, we must not become pessimist nor fatalist because for all the next generations there will always be a KC temple available to join, even though only very few persons will approach them. In conclusion, don't expect that politicians will become KC people, no chance, because they have no way out from lust, anger and greed, because their attachment to sense gratification is out of control no matters any message from any spiritual master, so their grand grand sons will have to meet Kalki's liberation. On the other hand, you better feel happy because you are following the way back home, back to Godhead. Finally, let us remember the sentence from Bhagavad-gita, "The wise don't lament neither for the living nor the dead." Hare Krishna.

Hare Krishna, Sanjay Solomon, regarding your comment here is mine, -- ALL I HAVE TO SAY TO YOU Bruz IS THAT KRISHNA IS FICTION… --Both Jesus and Krishna are real. YOU ARE LIVING IN A DECEPTION… JESUS IS THE ONLY REALITY. [NOT AN AVTAR} --That is called fanatic point of view. Jesus is real, ok, but so are Krishna, Mahoma, Buda and so is Moses. Jesus IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE – HE IS NOT AN AVTAR AS YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD – HE IS THE SON OF GOD HIMSELF. --I agree, Jesus is the son of God. Now listen, Krishna is God Himself, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, they are the Son (Jesus) and the Father (Krishna). Jesus said "I am the way to the father" and so he is because due to Jesus' mercy one can have the chance to evolve and arrive at Krishna. HE CAME TO THIS WORLD IN HUMAN FORM ONLY TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM SIN AND HE DIED FOR YOU AND ME AND BY THE SHEDDING OF HIS BLOOD OUR SINS ARE WASHED AWAY HE ROSE UP AGAIN AND CONQUERED DEATH AND ASCENDED ONTO HEAVEN --I agree. AND YOU CAN GO THERE TOO BUT ONLY IF WE BELIEVE IN HIM AS OUR GOD AND THE ONLY GOD. --That is one way to do it. HE DID NOT COME TO KILL THE SINNER BUT TO GIVE US VICTORY OVER SIN. LOVE THE SINNER BUT HATE SIN. HE DOES NOT LIVE IN STATUES OR THREADS OR RITUALS BUT IN THE HEARTS OF TRUE BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN. HE IS A LIVING GOD. AND YOU CAN GO TO GOD THE FATHER ONLY THROUGH Jesus HIS BELOVED SON. --I agree. THE DEVIL DUPLICATES GODS WORKS TO MISGUIDE PEOPLE. HE HAS DUPLICATED THE PRINCIPLES OF CHRISTIANITY AND LED PEOPLE ASTRAY BY INTRODUCING RELIGIONS. --You are right. Some so called religions are false, however the bhakti yoga taught by Prabhupada is a righteous way to become a better person and Prabhupada recognizes Jesus Christ as the son of God (Sri Krishna). BUT FOLLOWING CHRIST IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION ITS ABOUT FOLLOWING THE TRUTH. THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NOT IN WORDS BUT ITS ABOUT POWER. WATCH BENNY HINN AND OTHER EVENGALISTS PERFORM MIGHTY MIRACLES IN THE NAME OF THE Lord Jesus CHRIST AND EXPERIENCE THE POWR FOR YOURSEL. FOR THE BIBLE SAYS “TASTE AND SEE THAT THE Lord IS GOOD” --Indeed Jesus is powerful. I PRAY THAT GOD OPENS YOUR SPIRITUAL EYES AND THAT YOU REALIZE THAT HEAVEN IS NOT SOMETHING THAT ONE CAN ACHIEVE THROUGH GOOD WORKS AND INNUMERABLE REBIRTHS BUT ONLY BY THE GRACE OF GOD AND THROUGH THE BLOOD OF CHRIST. --I admire your strong faith, thank you for your good wishes. You have a choice brother… choose Jesus and you will have eternal life. --I accept Jesus as the son of God and I accept Krishna as God Himself, The Supreme Personality of Godhead. And while you are on this earth you will be free from the yoke of the devil and will have eternal joy, peace and health and wealth even without that silly meditation and yoga and chanting of mantras. --Well, despite of your opinion, the maha-mantra is like a concentrated prayer of "Our Father Who Are in Heaven, Holy Be Thy Name..." I am telling you this so that when after death you stand before the Lord you will have no excuse to say that no one told you about the truth of Jesus. --Jesus accomplished his divine mission and so did Arjuna. Both of them had to do things they didn't want to like dying in a cross (Jesus) and killing his fallen-from-grace relatives (Arjuna), but both of them decided to obey God's will. PRAISE THE LIVING LORD JESUS SANJAY SOLOMON --All my respects for Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Messiah of the Bible (May the jewish accept Him one day) and all my respects for Srila Prabhupada, the servant of God, Sri Krishna. Hare Krishna, Sanjay Solomon.

Hare Krishna devotees, here I am with updated records, Jan. 18, Morning, Kirtana 30'... Bhagavad-gita, Illustrations Ch.3, Plates 13-15, ... 3 japa rounds. *** Jan. 19, Morning, Kirtana 40'... Bhagavad-gita, Illustrations Ch.4, Plates 16-19, ... 7 japa rounds. *** Jan. 20, Morning, Kirtana 30'... Bhagavad-gita, Illustrations Ch.5-6, Plates 20-25, ... 16 japa rounds. This day was a great achievement, 16 japa rounds! cool, don't you think? *** Jan. 21, Whole day, Ekadasi (fast from grains and beans). *** Jan. 22, Morning, Kirtana 40'... Bhagavad-gita, Illustrations Ch.7-9, Plates 26-32, ... 2 japa rounds. *** Jan. 23, Morning, Kirtana 30'... Bhagavad-gita, Illustrations Ch.10-12, Plates 33-39, ... 2 japa rounds. *** Well, so far so good. Regarding my job it is about sales, so some days I'd be doing fine and some days not so good, my income is commissions only -no salary- but the main thing is that I must try to work doing Karma-yoga, that is working for Vishnu and renouncing the fruits from work, that is working without attachment to the results from work. Sometimes it's not easy because anxiety comes by but if I fix my mind on chanting the maha-mantra while I work then things can get better. I'm not making too much lakshmi, just enough to pay my rent and basic expenses, however Sri Isopanisad mentions "tena tyaktena buhnjitha," each one receives his asigned quota from Krishna. There are two karmi activities that I feel that I must quit, one is going to the karaoke because the songs that we can sing there are just sense gratification songs (except for a few God inspired songs like My Sweet Lord form George Harrison for example) and also they serve alcoholic drinks in the karaoke so even though I don't drink nor smoke anyway there are persons doing that while singing songs and it's not recommended that Krishna devotees go to non-devotional places, so it seems that I'll have to quit the karaoke, pretty bad because it's a nice way to release some stress, what do you think devotees? And the other thing to quit is singing and listening to karmi music at my own home, like rock/pop/music from groups like Def Leppard, Cold Play, Dido, Mana and some others. So lately I've been listening only to Hare Krishna music. Tonight I have to make a decision, stay home and do my KC program or go to the karaoke to put away some stress from work because today is my day off, what will I do? I'll tell you later. Hare Krishna.

Regarding your comment on 01/15/05 12:09 AM, well I'm glad that you are back in the right forum. I also have a friend that is Christian and she won't have an open mind about other philosohies and then she also start saying that yoga is bad. Then I understand that she is speaking the words that come from her Pastor or Priest or Minister so then I decide not to arguing with she but instead I respect her opinion and tell her that it's ok if she remains faithfull to JesusChrist and then I stop talking about Krishna Consciousness. When somebody's faith is very strong on a particular avatar like Jesus or Mahoma or Buda it is kind to respect such a strong faith and show respect for that. Maybe one day these persons will develop an open mind in order to take a look at Krishna Consciousness, however it can take not only some years but many lives instead, many cycles of birth and death, only Krishna knows. Hare Krishna.

And these are my bhakti yoga programs between Nov.8, 2004 and Jan.1st, 2005. Dec. 21, Afternoon, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.30, ... 1 japa round. *** Dec. 22, Morning, Kirtana 40'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.31, ... 6 japa rounds. *** Dec. 25, Afternoon, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.32, ... 1 japa round. *** Dec. 26, Afternoon, Kirtana 40'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.33, ... 1 japa round. *** Dec. 29, Afternoon, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.34, ... 3 japa rounds. *** Dec. 30, Afternoon, Kirtana 40'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.35, ... 1 japa round. *** Hare Krishna.

Hare Krishna devotees, here I am writing My last bhakti yoga programs, Year 2005 Jan. 1st, Afternoon, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.36, ... 3 japa rounds. *** Jan. 3, Night, Kirtana 40'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.37, ... 4 japa rounds. *** Jan. 5, Afternoon, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.38-39, ... 2 japa rounds. *** Jan. 6, EKADASI ok, fast from grains and beans. *** Jan. 9, Afternoon, Kirtana 40'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.40, ... 1 japa round. Now I finished reading this volume of Srimad Bhagavatam and I don`t have more volumes so I'm going to save enough money in order to get the whole collection of 18 volumes of Srimad Bhagavatam and as well the whole collection of KC cd's in order to stop listening to karmi music by replacing karmi cd's with KC cd's. *** Jan. 12, Morning, Kirtana 30'... Bhagavad-gita, Illustrations Ch.1, Plates 1-6, ... 3 japa rounds. *** Jan. 17, Afternoon, Kirtana 40'... Bh.g. Illustrations, Ch.2, Plates 7-12, ... 9 japa rounds. *** Well, hopefully I can take my chanting of japa rounds up to 16 rounds a day, and maybe 64 rounds on one special day. Hare Krishna, let's keep up our bhakti-yoga programs.

Due to sanscrit characters the verse couldn't get copied right, it should read like this: Of the descendants of Vrsni I am Vasudeva, and of the Pandavas I am Arjuna. Of the sages I am Vyasa, and among great thinkers I am Usana. Hare Krishna.

Hare Krishna Prabhu Ramgopal, in reply to your question it is stated in Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 10, verse 37: BG 10.37: Of the descendants of Vṛṣṇi I am Vāsudeva, and of the Pāṇḍavas I am Arjuna. Of the sages I am Vyāsa, and among great thinkers I am Uśanā. The five Pandavas were warriors, so among warriors Krishna is Arjuna because Arjuna is the best warrior among all types of warriors in the universe because Arjuna was compassionate and he didn't go to war until understanding that he was going to fight not for personal revenge nor personal glory nor any personal reason but just as a service unto Lord Sri Krishna. That's why Bhagavad Gita was spoken, so Arjuna's confusion would be erased from his mind with the power of knowledge. Only then, after understanding his position as a surrendered soul unto Krishna, Arjuna proceeded to chastise his enemies who were completely blinded by ignorance and maya and lack of following regulative principles. That's why Arjuna is the best warrior and since no one can be greater than Krishna that's why Krishna is Arjuna. You can read more about Krishna's opulence in this page http://www.krishna.com/newsite/gita_frameset.html Hare Krishna.

Hare Krishna Prabhu Neal, I'm glad that you read these two books. Regarding Vrndavana, its inhabitants, temples and histories, I am planning to save enough money in order to travel to India and visit the holy city of Vrndavana. I would also like to visit Dvaraka, Kurukshetra, Mathura and Navadvipa. This trip is a long term goal, in the meantime my short term goal is saving money in order to buy cd's and tapes and books about Krishna from Srila Prabhupada. Hare Krishna.

By the way Neal, the page Krishna.com is very nice. It's funny, as I was watching the animated card about Krishna lifting up Govardana Hill, I remembered that when I was a child I used to ask my parents why God wasn't showing himself in the television, and guess what, now that I am seeing Krishna lifting up Govardana Hill in the screen of a personal computer I realize that it was just a matter of time to see God in a screen. It's like a desire that I had long time ago coming true. If wishes can come true after some time then we better be careful with our wishes, right? Hare Krishna.

Hare Krishna Mahaprabhu, it is written in Bhagavad Gita in the chapter entitled The Opulence of the Absolute that among the agents of the law Krishna is Yama, the Master of Death. In the book about Ajamila -I don't remember the title- it is described that the servants of Yama are the Yamadutas, they are living entities inside of ugly bodies and they are allowed to take the fallen souls into the hellish planets after death of their material bodies. Thus the Yamadutas are the worshipers of Yamaraja. Ajamila was a saintly person that fell apart from yoga due to his attraction towards a prostitute, actually he married her and then fell down in a life without restrictions so at the moment of his death Ajamila's soul was going to be taken to hell by the yamadutas. Fortunately for his case during that moment of his death Ajamila chanted the name of one of his sons that was named Narayana, and because this name is one of the Holy Names of Krishna then the Vishnudutas arrived on time to rescue Ajamila's soul. Therefore it is better to serve Krishna as a devotee of Srila Prabhupada rather than serve Yama as a yamaduta. In the end no demon is scarier than Krishna Himself so we better take shelter at the lotus feet of Vishnu or Krishna. Hare Krishna Mahaprabhu.

Hare Krishna Prabhu Neal, I appreciate your comment. My last bhakti yoga program was... Nov. 8, Night, Kirtana 40'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.29,... 11 japa rounds. *** That night I couldn't complete 16 rounds, I only did 11, actually I felt asleep with my japa beads on my hand, when I woke up in the morning I realized I did only eleven rounds. Then the bad circumstances situation got heavier inside of my mind. The facts about this problem have been erased from the forum, it seems that it is a subject that goes beyond discussion in this web page so I'll have to solve it on my own. It is getting better but very slowly. Too many mixed emotions to handle but such is life. Today I was in the mood to do my bhakti yoga program but somehow I couldn't, hopefully tomorrow I'll do it. I'm glad that you found some devotees in Hawaii. Here in Maya City I haven't been that lucky yet. Thank you for reminding me that it is due to maya that we fall down from the path of yoga. At least I'm not taking shelter in bad habits like drinking or smoking in order to escape from my problem, nevertheless I had to take some aspirins already to handle headache. It must be my own karma claiming its price, and the only thing we can do in order to reduce the effects of karma is keeping up our chanting so I better take it easy and cool my mind to have new energy to do yoga again. It won't be long, Krishna never lets down His devotees, so it's just a matter of time. Hare Krishna.

Hare Krishna, Bhakta Neal. It's real good to read about your own progress in chanting japa. I am doing my best efforts to keep up my bhakti yoga program, unfortunately right now I'm facing a complicated situation related to unexpexted circumstances that are creating a blur in my mind so first I have to find the solution to this problem and then come back to my yoga program. I'll describe this problem in another topic and then return to this topic to keep writing my KC records. Regarding my location I am living in a city of 700,000 inhabitants; it is an international tourist destination so here you can find all types of maya clutches, that is many places where people can eat meat and fish and eggs and lots of distractions that can make difficult to practise yoga. Actually, I guess that I must be the only person that knows about Prabhupada and that's trying to follow his teachings in this city where there is no KC temple nor KC people at all. Why I'm here? It's funny, because I am working in time share business in order to make some lakshmi in order to meet a KC woman and consider KC marriage with she, however I'm not lucky yet with lakshmi and time keeps flowing. I'm 38 already so I only have 12 more years to get this goal because at 50 years old the man must renounce to married life and family life and do devotional service without material affairs. So I may not get married at all with a KC woman, which seems better for spiritual progress, after all Prabhupada says that marriage is an entanglement. Therefore, the main goal is doing bhakti yoga with or without a KC wife. Besides there are no KC women around here thus I'm quiet a loner. My present goal is to save enough money in order to buy KC cd's and tapes and the whole collection of Prabhupada's books like the complete series of Srimad Bhagavatam because I only have one book and I almost finish it, so this goal will keep me busy for a while. When would I approach a KC woman in one of the KC temples or Bhakti Vriksha groups in order to consider marriage? Only if somehow I make enough lakshmi to go for it, say like having my own home and car and business and some 200,000 USA dollars in the bank. If not, then I rather continue living single practicing KC on my own. The name of my city should be Maya City because too much maya over here. Well, pleased to meet you. Hope to write my records again as soon as I clear my mind from the bad circumstances I'm facing now. Hare Krishna.

Hare Krishna, devotees. I appreciate the points of view from both of you (Anand and the guest). Anand is right by quoting Vaishnava Etiquette, "A pure devotee finds no fault in nobody." On the other hand, the guest is right when saying that we should chant 16 rounds a day. If Srila Prabhupada were still among us he would encourage us to do our daily chanting of 16 rounds. So now let me share with you my last records, Oct. 29, Night, Kirtana 40'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.23,... 5 japa rounds. *** Oct. 30, Night, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.24,... 3 japa rounds. *** Oct. 31, Night, Kirtana 40'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.25,... 1 japa round. *** Bhakti yoga in October 2004 = 12 sessions total. *** Nov. 1, Night, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.26,... 1 japa round. *** Nov. 6, Night, Kirtana 40'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.27,... 16 japa rounds. *** Nov. 7, Night, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.28,... 16 japa rounds. *** Today, I'm performing Ekadasi partially because I am not eating grains at all, however I ate fruit milkshake at 1:47 pm local time and I'm planning to eat some vegetables and fruit in a few minutes. I'd like to do complete Ekadasi again, that is no food and no water all the way until the next day, but I'll take it easy for a while and just do the fast from grains. So I'm leaving the internet and getting ready for my bhakti yoga program in the evening/night. Hopefully I'll chant 16 rounds or more today. Hare Krishna.

Hare Krishna, Gopal Jiu. This story clearly explains the supreme potency of the holy name and the association with saintly persons. Those sinners were scheduled to suffer in great pain for many lives and suddenly in just one minute they were released by King Janaka. If we analyze the cause of the sins we find that illicit sex was commited as well as stealing wealth and behaving with pride. So if one remains unmarried then no man will ever commit a sin against one's woman. If one remains poor then no man will ever feel the need to steal from him. And if one keeps in mind to be humble then no higher being will ever be dishonoured by him. Nevertheless -through all kinds of advertising- our modern society keeps making men believe that happiness means to have a beautiful wife and be wealthy and display such a pride for life. Amazing, isn't it? Hare Krishna.

I wrote "Hare Kishna." Should read, Hare Krishna.

My last bhakti yoga programs, Oct. 20, Morning, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.19,... 4 japa rounds. *** Oct. 22, Night, Kirtana 40'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.20,... 3 japa rounds. *** Oct. 23, Night, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.21,... 5 japa rounds. *** Oct. 27, Afternoon, Kirtana 30'... S.Bh. C.1, Ch.19, T.22,... 3 japa rounds. *** Hare Kishna.

Hare Krishna, anand. Very nice comment. Congratulatios for your 8 rounds chanting and for fasting during Ekadasi. I'm planning to fast during Ekadasi again starting January 2005, when my stomach will be completely recovered and ready for this sacrifice again. Hare Krishna.

Guest: --why you make other things if you have not chanted 16 rounds? chant your full rounds then do kirtan if you have other time. *** Hare Krishna Guest, I hope that I'll be chanting 16 rounds a day every day one of these months, in the meantime I'm doing what I can. Hare Krishna.

It means going back to the kingdom of God, escaping from material nature, back to Krishnaloka.