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Here on Alachua's radio they're broadcasting an interview with former NYC Mayor Koch, an empty-headed degenerate jackass who knws absolutely nothing about material or spiritual life. And what to speak of vikarma-viphalam. Maybe when guns are being held to Bush's bean and Koch's kopf they'll begin to wake up from their Kaliyuga susupti stupors. Pathetically putrid politicians.

If everyone in our Pentagon and World Trade Center gets on TV and vows never ever to kill cows and eat meat again, Jijajijaji, you'll have your peace. Otherwize, forget it mang, forge' i'! What your seeing is just the Iceberg's tip; and what to speak of the Goldberg's! Hitler had it absolutely straight, right on the money. He warned every Jew and our League of Nations: "Setup Israel in Madagascar" or someplace else, not where it is now.

******* RAmAyaNa-kathA ******* 1) ayodhyAyAM dazarathaH nAma rAjA AsIt | in Ayodhya Dazarath name king was (Once upon a time) In Ayodhya there was a King named Dazarath. 2) tasya tisraH bhAryAH AsIt | Of him 3 consorts were = He had 3 consorts. 3) tAH krameNa kausalyA, kaikeyI, sumitrA ca | They by count/step KausalyA, KaikeyI, Sumitra and. 4) etAsu bhAryAsu catvAraH kumArAH ajAyanta | In those wives 4 sons were born. 5) tesu prathamaH rAmaH kausalyAyAM putraH | Among them first RAma from/of Kausalya son. 6) dvitIyaH bharataH KaikeyyAH putraH | Second Bharata from/of KaikeyI son. 7) trtIya-caturthau laxmaNa zatrughnau sumitrAyAH putrau | Third-fourth Laxman Zatrughna from/of SumitrA sons. 8) rAmaH pituH AjnayA vanaM agacchat | RAma of father by command forest went. 9) tena saha laxmaNaH, sItA ca agacchatam | by him with Laxman, SItA and/also went/followed. 10) rAvaNo nAma rAxasaH vane sItAM aharat | RAvaNa name man-eater in forest SItA stole away. 11) saH tAM lankA-nagare asthApayat | He her LankA in city kept. 12) rAmaH kapi-rAjena sugriveNa, hanumatA ca sakhyaM akarot | RAma by monkey king Sugriva, with HanumAn and friendship made. 13) hanumAn samudraM ullanghya lankAyAM sItA | HanumAn sea jumped (over) in LankA SitA saw. 14) vAnarAH samudre setuM abadhnan | Monkeys on sea bridge built. 15) rAmaH lankAM gatvA sarvAn rAxasAn rAvaNaM ca jaghAna | RAma LankA having gone all man-eaters RAvaNa also killed. 16) tataH saH sItayA saha ayodhyAM prApa | Then he by SItA with AyodhyA returned. 17) ayodhyAyAM rAmasya paTTAbhiSekaH abhavat | In AyodhyA of RAma coronation bath took place. Note: no capital letters in Sanskrt. Names of persons, places are capitalized only in translation. Sanskrt: sItA = SItA (English) ?? Can someone explain the verb prApa in 16? krameNa in 3? hanumatA in 12?

Lo Tirtzach = THOU SHALT NOT KILL Vegetarian Hitler told our cow-killing League of Nations and Kosher-killing Jewish leader to set up Israel in Madagascar, definitely NOT, not, NOT in the Mid-East. Our so-called Jews don't know one word of their own Hebrew Torah nor Tenach. Our so-called Amerikan leaders know nothing at all about anything. Empty-headed MAYA-SUKHAYA fagots at best. Rommel knew more about Islam/Arab Culture than all our USA University professors combined. PrabhupAd dealt with all these topics 30 yrs ago. Instead of listening to HDG, they assisted in SP's poisoning. What you're seeing today is nothing. Nothing at all. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. PRABHUJIS, YOU AIN'T SEEN NUTTIN' YET. All you movie-goers: consider this "Coming Attractions"

******* SUryaH = Sun ******* tAtaH - bAla! sUryaH kasyAM dizi udeti? Father - Son! Sun in which direction rises? sutaH - tAta! sUryaH prAcyAM dizi udeti | Son - Father! Sun in Eastern direction rises. tAtaH - saH kasyAM dizi astaM gacchati? Father - He in which direction sets/goes? sutaH - sah pratIcyAM dizi astaM gacchati | Son - He out in Western direction sets/goes down. tAtaH - sUryeNa asmAkaM kiM prayojanam? Father - By Sun we what gain? sutaH - sUryaH asmAkaM prakAzaM, uSNaM ca yacchati | Son - Sun us light heat and gives. tAtaH - sUryaprakAzena kiM bhavati? Father - By sunlight what becomes (effect)? sutaH - sUryaprakAzena andhakArah nazyati | Son - By sunlight darkness destroyed. Sunlight dissipates night. tAtaH - sUryasya uSNaH kiM karoti? Father - Of Sun Heat what does? What does Sun heat do? sutaH - sUryasya uSNaH prANinaH raxati | Of Sun heat living protects. Sun's heat protects living (beings). kiM ca sUryaH uSNa-kiranaiH meghAn janayati | What and Sun with (His) hot rays clouds creates. tAtaH - sUryadevaM kutaH janAH pUjayanti? Father - Sun-god why people worship? sutaH - sUryaH grahANAM AdhipaH | Sun among planets head. api ca svakiranaiH lokAn raxati | Also and by His rays planets (He) protects. ataH janAH taM pUjayanti | Ergo, people Him worship. Some (10) of the Sun-god's names: AdityaH savitA sUryaH khagaH pUSA gabhAstimAn | suvarNa-sadRzaH bhAnuH hiraNya-retaH divAkaraH ||

3 words in English end in ngry: hungry, angry... What's the 3rd? How many words in English end in nger? hunger, anger... "A Tennis Court" includes all 5 vowels in alphabetic order. Euphoria contains all 5 vowels, but NOT in order. Utopia contains 4 of 5 vowels, 80%. What is the name for Madcow's disease in humans? Om is actually aum condensed.

I mostly agree with BrahmAji here. I carried ParamAdvaiti Mhrj's letter from Miami to Alachua in May. This Narayan Mhrj letter Brahmaji quotes is in response to it. There were some unfortunate things said by slightly fanatic followers. I may be more inclined to any Vaisnav who visits our East Coast. TripurAri Mhrj, Narasimha Mhrj, Visnu Mhrj hardly ever come here. If they did I'd certainly attend and/or invite others to do so. We should feel we are belonging to one Big Spiritual Family. In NYC 3 weeks ago, Bhaktivaibhava Puri Mhrj was mostly attended to and hosted by Narayan Mhrj's zisyas. Just imagine. So much external conflict was overlooked. We all know there are slight differences in every vaisnav's mood. No 2 are alike. Thank God for that! kotisv asesa vasudhAdi vibhUti-bhinnam Govindam AdipuruSam tam aham bhajAmi

The "runs".

PrabhupAd's Books. What are PrabhupAd's Books? Even this term PrabhupAd's Books has become a clichE = cliche'. There's so many different ways to see/envision PrabhupAd's Books. If you go to any Gaudiya Vaisnav temple you'll see they mainly worship and study 5 books: 1) Bhagavad-gIta 2) Zrimad BhAgavatam 3) Caitanya-BhAgavat 4) Caitanya-caritAmrta 5) Bhakti-rasAmrta-sindhu They print, read, live and distribute these books mainly in Bengali, Hindi, Assamese, Oriyan. What PrabhupAd did was extend his gurudev's and all the predecessor acaryas mercy to us English speakers. We in turn translated, printed and further extended that mercy into Chinese, French, German, Hebrew, Italian, Japanese, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish, Yugoslavian... That's why , even if we disagree with our godbrothers, even if they're off on tattva, fell down, jumped down, leaped down, still we should recall that they all did something to spread MahAprabhu's mission worldwide. They're still special souls. PrabhupAd didn't do it alone. He himself admitted several times, "My Guru Mhrj has sent you all to help me carry out his order." He wasn't just bluffing or feeling humble. He was speaking it as he saw it. As he taught us to see it. Divine Grace means just that: Divine Help, Divine Assistance.

False pride or ahankara is most difficult, most subtle. Zrila Zridhardev stated something which still makes me chill after 20 yrs: "One layer of false ego may consume many births..."

For now on we keep it as simple as possible. We'll give first: original Sanskrt transliterated, second: Sanskrt word order translated into English, third: the English word order (if needed) Note: In Sanskrt there are no articles (a, an, the) so we'll leave them out in English translation too. ******* KrIDAnganam = Playground ******* c1) praznaH/question: idaM kim? this what?what is this? 2) uttaram/answer: idaM krIDAnganam | 3) praznaH/questn: krIDAngaNe bAlAH kiM kurvanti? 4) krIDAngaNe bAlAH krIDAnti | In playground boys play. 5) bAlAH kathaM krIDAnti? Boys how play? 6) bAlAH kandukaiH krIDAnti. Boys with balls play. 7) saH bAlAH kiM karoti? That boy what does/doing? 8) saH bAlAH vakradaNDena kandukaM tADayati. That boy with (curved) bat ball hits. 9) anyaH kiM karoti? Other (boy) what doing? 10) anyaH svadaNDena kandukaM pratiruNaddhi | Other (boy) with his bat ball stops. 11) aho! idAnIM kiM AsIt? Oh! Now what is? (happened?) 12) kandukaH ubhau api vancayitvA dhAvitaH | Ball from both even having escaped runs. Having even/also escaped from (them) both, ball rolls away. 13) ayaM aparaH kuto dhAvati? Other (boy) why runs? 14) ayaM kandukaM grahItuM dhAvati | He ball to catch runs. 15) kutaH sarve bAlAH karatAlaM kurvanti? Why all boys handclap do? 16) ayaM api kandukaM agrhItvA patitaH | This boy too ball not having caught fell down. ataH sarve hasanti, karatAlaM kurvanti ca | So, all laugh, handclap do too. ?In 12, what does ubhau mean? ?In 13, 14, 16 what does ayaM mean? ?In 13 what does aparaH mean? Most of these words can be found in Bhagavad-gIta. From 13, ayam avilola... DAmodarASTakam

This one brings to mind "Radio Ram" by Madhu something dAs. Any more copies of Radio Ram floating around? Or shelfstable? He should've produced more of those. Whatever happened to that godbrother? He starred as RAm in New VrndAvan's version of RAmAyan.

Moreover, tvam angulIbhiH kim karoSi? (in 10 words or less)

Who is Kalpataru in our Brahma Madhva Gaudiya sampradAya? Your USS Urukram may be able to pierce our universe's 7 layers. Whether we're on board or not? That's another story.

I find reading Zri Caitanya CaritAmrta outloud most enthusing. Everytime you open it you can repeat/chant/sing those first 13 zlokas aloud. Life on this planet is way too short to be studying one verse/day. Once in New Dvarka PrabhupAd had us calculate: "18,000 zlokas, 360 days/yr, how many years to finish?" 50 yrs to study only one book? Forget it! CC surpasses Bhagavatam like a Jet surpasses a Schwinn. I really prefer bicycling, but if I'm offered a plane ticket...

What did Delaware boy, what did Della wear? She wore a brand new jersey, she wore a brand New Jersey...

Bhakta Shaktaji: tvam vadanena kiM karoSi? (uttaram = answer antar = within last post)

Hariharibol! KRSNacandraji ki jaya! So sorry I missed it. I don't know where my old NY/NJ current GBC friend got this idea that our PrabhupAd wanted us NOT to invite senior sAdhus like Zrila Bhaktivaibhava Puri Gosai into our mandirs to speak, chant, give darzan, accept prasAd... Very bad precedent. Sub-Vedik. Sub Amy Vanderbilt. Sub Emily Post. Anyway, Zrila RUpa Gosvami knows the score: If you're still attached to buildings and cashflow, if you're lending money to your Deities and charging Them interest, don't go to Yamuna's bank...

Hariharibol! KRSNacandraji ki jaya! So sorry I missed it. I don't know where my old NY/NJ current GBC friend got this idea that our PrabhupAd wanted us NOT to invite senior sAdhus like Zrila Bhaktivaibhava Puri Gosai into our mandirs to speak, chant, give darzan, accept prasAd... Very bad precedent. Sub-Vedik. Sub Amy Vanderbilt. Sub Emily Post. Anyway, Zrila RUpa Gosvami knows the score: If you're still attached to buildings and cashflow, if you're lending money to your Deities and charging Them interest, don't go to Yamuna's bank...

So when our ThAkur Bhaktivinod sings "Nadi-ya Godrumne NityAnanda MahAjan" we can now understand this in yet a new way.

Jagatji: Great to see you back! We were just keeping this thread lukewarm while you were away. sambhASaNam (angAni uddizya) Conversation (limbs concerning) 1) prasnaH (question) - idaM kim? This what? uttaram (answer) - idaM mama zarIram | This my body. 2) pra - zarIrarasya bhAgAH ke? Of body parts what? utt - zarIrasya bhAgAh ziraH, kaNThaH, uraH, udaraH, hastau, pAdau, angulayaH ity AdayaH | Of body parts head, neck, chest, belly, hands, feet, fingers etc. Notice: for such a long sentence no verb (is) required. 3) pra - tava zirasi kiM KiM vartate? Your head what what exists? utt - mama zirasi dve netre, dvau karNau, ekA nAsikA, mukhaM, jihvA, dantAH, evam AdayaH vartate? My in head 2 eyes, 2 ears, one nose, face, tongue, teeth, thus/certainly exists. ??This zirasi form comes from ziraH. It's in which case? 4) pra - tvaM netrAbhyAM kiM karoSi? You with 2 eyes what do? utt - ahaM netrAbhyAM pazyAmi | I with 2 eyes see. 5) pra - tvaM karNAbhyaM kiM karoSi? You with 2 ears what do? utt - ahaM karNAbhyAM zRNomi. I with 2 ears hear. 6) pra - tvaM nAsikayA kiM karoSi? You with nose what do? utt - ahaM nAsikayA jighrAmi. I with nose smell. 7) praznaH - tvaM vadanena kiM karoSi? You with mouth what do? uttaram - ahaM vadanena annaM bhaxayAmi | I with mouth food eat. 8) pra - tvaM jihvayA kiM karoSi? You with tongue what do? utt - ahaM jihvayA rasayAmi | I with tongue taste. 9) pra - tvaM dantaiH kiM karoSi? You with teeth what do? utt - ahaM dantaiH carvayAmi | I with teeth chew. 10) praznaH - tvaM pAdAbhyAM kiM karoSi? You with 2 feet what do? uttaram - ahaM pAdAbhyAM carAmi | I with 2 feet move/walk. 11) pra - tvaM hastAbhyAM kiM karoSi? You by 2 hands what do? utt - ahaM hastAbhyAM vastUni gRhNAmi | I by 2 hands take things. 12) pra - tvaM angulIbhiH kiM karoSi? You with fingers what do? utt - AhaM angulIbhiH gaNayAmi | I with fingers count. 13) praznaH - kaNThaH kutra vartate? Neck where situated? uttaram - kaNThaH zirasaH adharastAt vartate | utt - Neck head below from situated. ??What dif between zirasah and ziraH?? 14) praznaH - kaNThasya adharastAt kiM kiM vartate? u - kaNThasya adharastAt kuraH, udaraM, hastau, pAdau, ete vartante | Of neck below from chest, belly, hands, feet these exist. In 14, kaNThasya adharastAt are in singular gen. & abl. cases ??What about zirasaH in 13? "kaNThaH zirasaH adharastAt"??

c10) tataH saH vRddhaH, 'taM kASTha-bandhaM unmucya ekaikaM kASThaM bhanjayata' ity avocat | Then that old man 'that stick bundle untie one by one break' thus said. 11) teSu ekaiko'pi ekaikaM kASTham AdAya xipraM, vinA zrameNa abhanjayat | Among them each as one by one took quickly, without effort broke. 12) tadA vRddhaH avadat, "pUtrAH! ekaikaM kASThaM yuSmAbhiH sulabhatayA bhagnam; na kASTha-bandhaH | Then old man said, "Sons, single stick by you (all) easily broken; not stick bundle. 13) ataH yUyaM sadA sanghI-bhavat | tadA na ko'pi yuSmAn badheta" iti | Ergo, you (all) always united be. Then nobody you (can) trouble/bother" thus. 14) evaM sanghe zaktiM tebhyaH abodhayat | Certainly, thus in unity strength to them (he) explained.

Yes to Maitreya, JR et al, Zrila Zridhardev stated that this bhaktas tattoos were like Deities on his skin; therefore his body should not be burned. VaikunthanAth dAs KavirAj knows the case better than I do. I'll email him this thread. There's no photo of PrabhupAd or any other authentic vaisnav wearing clothing with Deity Pictures printed or sewn on. Your notions not to wear/avoid or to at least take Them off when entering toilets, etc. is right on, 100% zAstrik. Holy Names can be taken into toilets, but not Holy Forms. Zriman MahAprabhu's example with GopAl Guru GosvAmI.

Nightmares in Florida I'm familiar with. But I don't know too much about her. Is that good?

Maybe I mentioned this elsewhere, but in one NYC Hospital office I saw this sign: "If you want to see the dead come to life, be here at quittin' time."