Govindaram

For now this is the only preaching pad I have, what can I do? You could almost say I am practising.

Will I become self - realized by the end of my I,000,000 post ? -- Mmmm lets see there are 1000 cycles of yugas in 1 day of Brahma, which makes the night the same, so if you make 1 post in every 4 yugas you should do fine, thx.

Woke up this morning the realization came that Sense gratification is a dream {illusion} it in reality has no significance. We don't have control over the dream. For example when we are dreaming we do not realize we are, sometimes we can perceive a little, so in the same way we are after gratifying our senses in the false sense, instead of satisfying the senses of Krishna who is the reality. Is this correct??

Right to Left Lord Caitanya is the most merciful Incarnation of Lord Sri Krishna, they are non-different.

I was a Sheep in my past life, while my Muslim friend was a donkey, my Hindu friend was a cow, and my Christian friend well he not believe in Re-incarnation, but still he was a butterfly.

I would like to say this, I am sorry, to all members on this forum, for my behaviour lately.. I -- Who is I tell me that? would -- what do you mean by this? like -- we would all like something. to -- yes. this -- this that other, please be specific I -- yep here we go again am -- what? sorry -- no need to say sorry to -- where? what are you saying? all -- ok ......right did I make my point, or am I being a pain?

Hare Krsna I would like to say this, I am sorry, to all members on this forum, for my behaviour lately..

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I very much value your advice, I still have a e-mail which you sent me about ..example is better than precept.-

hare krsna

Hare Krishna, I shall try to answer certain questions only, others devotees, who are higher level than me, can answer. Bhaja Nityananda, 1.We not follow scientists. Everybody is dying, we not believe we go to some limbo, until judgement comes, it comes when you give-up this body. Life forms being the appropriate word, its turns into another body any 84,000,000, species of life {material}, or Spiritual {our original nature}, descent to heaven is in a Material Body. You will have to return here again, as heaven is situated in this Material Creation, whereas the spiritual world {Goal of the Hindu/Hare Krishna} is beyond the Mundane Material Sky. 2.KRSNA descended to this world from the Spiritual world, sort of like a de-tour, 5000 years ago, long before Egyptians, the Bhagavad-Gita was spoken by Him, so that makes the Gita alone 5000 years old, coming down through disciplic succession the Gita was passed on, the current link being Bhaktivedanta Prabhupada, Founder Archarya of ISKCON, KRSNA society for the World. 6. Yes it is bad, insects don't have the ability to speak, or read, and chant, and pray, or offer respects to KRSNA. In the mosque where you go to pray, how would you pray if you were an ant? 7. If you have the knowledge that a certain thing is happening to you, then why not make plans so that it doesn't happen again, reward is another chance to become God Conscious. 8. Qualification, you don't get to 8th grade, if you act like a dog, you get held back, or thrown back, same with species of life, how your mind-set is, that's the body you get, act like a dog, get a dogs body. Beyond this world as I said before is the spiritual world. 9. Come back as a dolphin? So you can do sense gratification, what kind of God Consciousness will you have, or do you have. Not a trick question. 10.The spiritual power of Vaishnavas is hidden from the mass public, let sleeping dragons lay.

To everyone: Hare Krsna Pamho/AgtSP If I could at all have your association regular then that would be most helpful, I appreciate it will not be so constant, 'little help goes a long way', I would like to associate with devotees who inspire me to become KC, so please e-mail me.. mercyofkrsna@aol.com , so i can recieve your e-mails from the reply, I won't be giving it out to anybody, so rest assured. Thankyou...jaya prabhupada

Hare Krsna You know I feel like this has been my home 'away' from home for a long time, great association, but I've over stayed my welcome, we all have to leave some time, we need some new blood in this Forum, I've made nearly almost Two Thousand Posts, offended the same amount of devotees, I'll keep on seeing whats going on here, but for now I should't and won't be posting, jaya NITAI! JAYA PRABHUPADA! ALL GLORIES TO Ghari/Thiest/Yashodanandana/Pritta/Babhhru/Living Entity/ and all others keep on preaching.. Lord Nityananda is with YOU.

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I tried to pin-point the moment I thought 'I don't want to chant anymore', it was my desire said in Ignorance, and because I caused offence to devotees. I have felt over the years, thinking in my mind {only sometimes} that I don't want to chant {Maya}, so this maybe builds up, makes us cause offence, we get bad association, then...? Either you can stop or take it slow, I don't consider myself a devotee anymore, until I am following again, but I am a 'limbo' devotee lol, just waiting to take up the practice again. My Mind is such a Raskal it just doesn't listen to reason, it wants to do its own think, I wish it could manifiest as a person, so I could beat the hell out of it!

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"It's not a contest, so you can decline to play that game at all." Yes, I suppose so, inspiring to be a devotee of a devotee, servant to the Holy name, no matter how much we serve Krsna, it is not enough, so we could chant 24/7 its still not enough, ocean keeps on expanding.. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Hare Krsna Say for example somebody chants more rounds than you, or that somebody chants 100 names of Lord Gauranaga and you do not, who is the better person? Following Prabhupada programme is essential for us, so manufactoring rules/regulations at this stage is not good, what I mean by that is somebody saying 'I am better than you because ..' Can't get my head around this, its been bothereing me for a while, not getting any staight answers. could somebody offer me advice please. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

http://srimadbhagavatam.com/4/7/45 TRANSLATION The brahmana's said: Dear Lord, You are sacrifice personified. You are the offering of clarified butter, You are the fire, You are the chanting of Vedic hymns by which the sacrifice is conducted, You are the fuel, You are the flame, You are the kusa grass, and You are the sacrificial pots. You are the priests who perform the yajna, You are the demigods headed by Indra, and You are the sacrificial animal. Everything that is sacrificed is You or Your energy. PURPORT In this statement Lord Vishnu's all-pervasiveness is partially explained. It is said in the Vishnu Purana that as a fire situated in one place emanates its heat and illumination everywhere, so whatever we see within the material or spiritual worlds is nothing but a manifestation of different energies emanating from the supreme Personality of Godhead. The brahmanas' statement is that Lord Vishnu is everything-- the fire, the offering, the clarified butter, the utensils, the place of sacrifice and the kusa. He is everything. It is confirmed herein that the performance of sankirtana-yajna in this age is as good as all other yajnas in all other ages. If one performs sankirtana-yajna by chanting Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare, there is no need to arrange elaborate paraphernalia for the prescribed sacrificial ceremonies recommended in the Vedas. In the chant of the holy names, Hare and Krsna, Hare means the energy of Krsna, and Krsna is the vishnu-tattva. Combined together they are everything. In this age, persons are harassed by the influence of Kali-yuga and cannot arrange for all the requisite paraphernalia for performing sacrifice as recommended in the Vedas. But if one simply chants Hare Krsna, it is to be understood that he is performing all kinds of yajna because there is nothing within our vision except Hare (the energy of Krsna) and Krsna. There is no difference between Krsna and His energies. Thus since everything is a manifestation of His energy, it is to be understood that everything is Krsna. One simply has to accept everything in Krsna consciousness, and he is a liberated person. One should not misunderstand that because everything is Krsna, Krsna has no personal identity. Krsna is so full that in spite of keeping Himself separate from everything by His energy, He is everything. This is confirmed in Bhagavad-gita, Ninth Chapter. He is spread throughout the creation as everything, but still He is not everything. The philosophy recommended by Lord Caitanya is that He is simultaneously one and different. === I forgot that Maha-Mantra is a sacrifice, wonder why /images/graemlins/confused.gif

www.caitanyacaritamrta.com/madhya/19/152 Purport(excerpt) The bhakti-lata-bija is the origin of devotional service. Unless one satisfies the spiritual master, he gets the bija, or root cause, of karma, jnana and yoga without the benefit of devotional service. But one who is faithful to his spiritual master gets the bhakti-lata-bija. ---- looks like the bija alright, but its up to us to look after it.

Thats it prabhuji, like i.e when hearing Srila Prabhupada Kirtan on sound-system gives you Bhakti-lata seed. IF hearing for the FIRST time? I would best of all love some verses from Sastra, if anybody has them at hand. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Jaya! what were your realisations during this time? Ps. when I do go, I won't say. {heh}

It looks like everybody goes missing some time, I wonder what Bhavishya Purana says about this /images/graemlins/wink.gif I wonder if anybody would miss me /images/graemlins/laugh.gif When we all congregate in *Goloka Dham* form a line in the 'I used to post in Audarya Forum /images/graemlins/grin.gif ok?'

LOL Sorry could't help it. One consiousness, KRSNA consiousness jaya!

"Why did the religions...Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all adhere to monotheism, yet Hinduism still believes in rocks and stones in the form of a God?" Lord comes in the form of so-called stone to accept our worship, whatever used in KRSNA service becomes spiritualized (when done in a bona-fide way) according to Vedic knowledge{sriptures}, science of God is coming down from time immemorial, don't profess to know everything, I hope this is a good enough answer, hopefully others will reply.

www.asitis.com/3/38.html PURPORT (excerpt) There are three degrees of covering of the living entity by which his pure consciousness is obscured. This covering is but lust under different manifestations like smoke in the fire, dust on the mirror, and the womb about the embryo. When lust is compared to smoke, it is understood that the fire of the living spark can be a little perceived. In other words, when the living entity exhibits his Krsna consciousness slightly, he may be likened to the fire covered by smoke. Although fire is necessary where there is smoke, there is no overt manifestation of fire in the early stage. This stage is like the beginning of Krsna consciousness. The dust on the mirror refers to a cleansing process of the mirror of the mind by so many spiritual methods. The best process is to chant the holy names of the Lord. ---- If we are not fully purified can we feel we are satisfying the Self by devotional service to KRSNA..? in the beginning.