JustRish

Well I was thinking about adopting a little budgie but I am having a change of heart because someone brought it to my attention that it is wrong. He said it is taking away their right to freedom by putting them in a cage. Now, if only I had thought about that before. If I adopted one, wouldn't it mean I am supporting a cause to take away their freedom? So is it considered immoral to adopt one in your view? I have a friend who is a Krishna devotee but has a budgie. Is this considered okay? I am just curious on your views. Thanks

I'm not really that sure he is an incarnation of Krishna. But if you believe that then no problem. In Jainism, our 23rd Tirthankara (Neminath or Parshva) was the cousin of Krishna. Not sure if you accept that in Hinduism.

Aaaah *rips her hair out* - very complicated stuff. I can imagine that may be, just may be, the universe, the planet in itself has intelligence but very hard to imagine someone made that intelligence. I'm reading the Gita. I have it right here. But I guess its a gradual process. I'm not going to rush over this.

Sorry to bring this up again, but I have been reading this link and perhaps this is very close to what you're saying. I think it's really interesting. You might like it too: Click here.

This is a good way of looking it at, I'm sure. But I have absolutely no knowledge of science whatsoever. I have no idea how the big bang took place or even what there is outside this planet lol. May be when I can do these things, what you said will make more sense... . It's very difficult for a theist to imagine life without a God isn't it? In the same way, perhaps its hard to imagine a life where there is a God for an atheist agnostic person like me. One can grasp the idea of god, the other can't. I don't know if I'll ever understand. I came here to understand how a theist mind works since most people I associate with are not very religious at all. I live in England. My grandmother believes in God, but she doesn't discuss religion with me that much. Every time I try to discuss these things with her, she says not to digg to deep into religion or I might forget those around me. I thought she wanted me to believe in God

It's not a song. If you listen to it with your headphones you actually feel like you're sitting at a Babershop and the man is cutting your hair. Its very clever but won't work without your headphones.

Okay, I am going to be reading through all your posts one by one. Would have helped if you kept it short and simple but its all good lol.Looks like I've missed a big fight or something.

LOL... .

The man himself has arrived with the links I cannot explain how this thought makes me feel in words. It's just odd but the feeling is good. There is a sense of me being protected. I must admit. Perhaps I have every control over my dreams but don't know it? Perhaps those characters in my dreams are like me.. weird. Schizophrenia patients claim to see people we cannot see. I guess those people are really visible to them, and it's strange we cannot see them. May be the person they can see is really there, and the problem is actually us because its us who cannot see. All this thinking can make one go crazy. Thank you so much for this, much appreciated. Found it hard to track you down using the search form. Anyway, thank you, thank you thank you

True I would be considered a theist if I do believe in God. Just because the definition is different does not make me atheist does it? I like to think of myself as a Buddhist-Jainist-Pantheist so I do alot of blending myself. I also think of myself as a Hindu in a way because much of our inspiriation is taken from Hinduism. Actually we've all influenced each other greatly. In fact, when I lose something or have exams I think of Jalaram Bapa. Don't know how I do that but always manage to think of him and chant his name lol. I know he was probably not a God but a saint. But you are right. Spirituality cannot be forced. But there is no harm in understanding and then may be if I can understand I can accept . I might not and I might. As Buddha said (read the bold bit): Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. Do not believe anything because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything because it is written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and the benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it . Just the creation part is what I find hard to understand not the whole creation story. Our guru never taught creation part. He just said this planet always existed and always will with some 'scientific explanation'. Now with modern day science we know this is not possible right? So I have to dig deeper than that.

Look at the state the world is in and you'll realise we are probably living in its onset. And yes, brace yourself and be prepared because we're almost heading for complete disaster by the looks of it . And I am scared religion is probably whats going to be the reason for it.

Interesting. You mean like a bhatakti atman (which is like me, kind of)? With a bit more understanding may be this may change

I think it is amazing. It's made me question: Am I real? is everyone real:eek:? Isn't that weird? That is a scary thought. But I cannot find any trace of Survah Gattah? Perhaps this is a mispelling?

Soon enough .me domains will be releasing too. Keep your eyes out for those if you want or do they have to be purely .mobi? You might want to grab google.me, etc...

Oh My Goodness Me... Someone is having a more bad day than me . Here, have a cookie.

Is it really? Or Vishu's dream? Please explain this to me. I read a post about this somewhere (but it was too brief) and I want to know more.

For me, Mahavir and Buddha are enlightened beings and I have a lot to learn from them. I do pray to them. The Tirthankaras are the Jain Gods in a sense. When I pray, or should I say solute, I solute our five spiritual masters who are: the Arihantas, Siddhâs, Âchâryas, Upadhyâyas, and normal monks. Anyone who achieves enlightenment is God. I only struggle to understand the creation part. I don't know if this makes me atheist, agnostic or theist just because my concept and understanding of God is different. So I solute them with this prayer but they have no way to communicate with us on earth now that they have become enlightened. Our Mantra: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navakar_Mantra [url=" "]

You have to go to the temple and ask how because over here in London is probably different from how to become a member in India. So if you contact someone who is head of the place they'll let you know. Good luck!

You don't know about Judaism? Jesus, your messenger, also preached reincarnation. Check out the link to see the reason why it was banned from the Bible: http://www.askrealjesus.com/K_JESUS_ANSWERS/D_BY_JESUS/Teachreincarn.html But if you think I am wrong, or that Jesus is wrong, I can't really do anything about it.

I am not sure if you knew this, but Judaism the religion which gave birth to Islam and Christianity actually borrowed the concept of heaven and hell and judgement day from the Zoroastrians. Jews initially believed in reincarnation too. Isn't that surprising Mazhar? http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Resurrection_And_Judgement/id/9759 Also check out this link about Judaism and reincarnation: http://www.atmajyoti.org/sw_xtian_believe_reinc.asp This has nothing to do with your "idol worship" question, but just wanted to say that everything is not as it seems on the outside. Just because it does not make sense to you does not mean it doesn't make sense to someone else. With that you can just agree to disagree and go your seperate ways, especially if you don't want to understand.

But then again, I can now see why someone might find it offensive. May be you're right too.

The story was an Indian fable so he had to give credit to the Indians for writing it. Depends how you view it I guess. This is the way I understand it. I'm not saying you are wrong either. Everyone interprets this story differently. In Hinduism, for example, truth is relative because they also don't say Christians are wrong, Muslims are wrong, Jews are wrong do they? There are different ways to get to God. When he said: "Though each was partly in the right And all were in the wrong" What I think he meant was this: Every person who touched the elephant were partly right. One felt the trunk, the other felt the tail, etc. So they were right in stating what they felt. But each person didn't feel the whole elephant so they don't know what the elephant feels like as a whole. That is why they have different opinions. So they were all partly right, but all of them were wrong because they only felt part of the elephant. They didn't have the absolute picture. So truth is relative. Everyone's truth is different. They were wrong to fight over who is right and who is wrong. Even though they were all partly right, they were wrong too because they didn't feel the whole elephant.

This is the way I understand it. I'm not saying you are wrong either. When he said: "Though each was partly in the right And all were in the wrong" What I think he meant was this: Every person who touched the elephant were partly right. One felt the trunk, the other felt the tail, etc. So they were right in stating what they felt. But each person didn't feel the whole elephant so they don't know what the elephant feels like as a whole. That is why they have different opinions. So they were all partly right, but all of them were wrong because they only felt part of the elephant. They didn't have the absolute picture. So truth is relative. Everyone's truth is different. They were wrong to fight over who is right and who is wrong. Even though they were all partly right, they were wrong too because they didn't feel the whole elephant.

That all human truth is relative. And it is an Indian fable. It was not originally written by an Englishmen. I think it was either a Jain story, a Hindu story, a Buddhist story or a Sufi story. It's origins is unknown.

Yes, God is nature, nature is God. That's Pantheism. I'm a Pantheist too.