Most Perplexing question about religion in general

[Guest guest]

How do you know that God even exists?

 

[Guest guest]

inquiry from a hands on perspective...ask yourself "why am i here, how did i come into being, what is my purpose, is there a purpose, what made all of this...??? it's natural to inquire about your existence.

take the complexaties of the human body, the intricate workings of molecules working together, the thousands of miles of blood vessels and capillaries, the 30 feet of digestive system within a 6 foot body, the million different color combinations our eyes perceive...something or someone had to make this fantastic colaboration of cells come together. if we dismiss all this as randomn chance, how does it keep reoccuring birth after birth (6 billion earth population now) without much deviance from one another.

now inquire as to sacred texts which have been passed down through the ages which might offer insight to this delemia.

 

investigate and search...if your basement is flooding with water, you'll search for the source of the leak to stop it...why not do the same to as to if God exists.

 

personally when asked "does God exist?" I ask to be shown that "He doesnt exist" and havent heard any valid conclusions.

 

Your question is an awesome one, for it leads towards greater understanding and awareness, no matter what the results may be for you.

[mpuri 0]

Do you really know if an atom exists or have just read or have been told?

 

Chances are that you haven't seen the structure of an atom through an electron microscope. If so, how come you know that an atom exists?

 

Similarly if you do the kind of things that God believers do (as outlinded in the Gita by Krishna himself or in other great books), there will come a stage when you will *know* that God does indeed exist, and right there inside you. You'll feel his direction, his love and care unmistakably.

 

Try it out. At the end of the day though it all comes down to personal experience. Until you see the atom through an appropriate microscope or you experience and know God yourself, you can't truly *know* that either exists.

[Raghavan 0]

How do you know if air is existing and why do you have to beleive it. How do you know that life is existing and why even the most best of best doctor is not able to save the life force and put it back into the body when the body is dead. We know that we breath oxygen and why even in the presence of oxygen cylinders the life force does not stay in the body when it has to leave. What is that life force that we call as soul. Where does it come from, what is its colour, nature, where is it going, why it is not visible, what is it made of?

I am a medical professional scientist and I can certainly say that our science is so little for us to explain all the above questions, because our senses are limited. If Groups of Dogs and Dolphins gather around and they keep speculating how human beings are building bridges and houses and driving cars. They could never understand, finally they accepted them as masters and they remained as servants. IN same way, we are not even able to properly trace the hurricanes and stop the eruption of volcanoes and earth quakes with our mental speculating science that can only make us live comfortable in material life. So how much ever we analyse if God is even existing or not, we can never see Him, but you can surely see Him when you totally surrender yourself to that Supreme Power that alone knows the answers for all the questions in the first paragraph of this reply to you. Then you will not ask anymore, because you feel and see that Power.

Raghavan

[Pankaja_Dasa 1]

 

 

Illusion will make you think God doesn't exsist so you may engage in 'sense' gratification.

[mpuri 0]

Some interesting facts about Earth suggest intelligent design behind its creation:

 

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper58.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper58.html&line=47#mfs

[theist 1]

and another one that is difficult to answer in a way that satisfies a mind and intelligence that needs many words and thoughts, one that mistakes complication for claification.

 

How do you know when the Sun has risen?

 

Doubtless realization comes from God Himself as He is self-revealing.

 

A child is born at night and has known only night (nitya-baddha). How to convince that child that light is coming in the form of the Sun?

 

A child is born in the day and has known only light(nitya-siddha). How could he possibly imagine the night?

 

Intelligent arguments can serve as a bridge but doubts may crop up until one is actually on the other side.

 

So we take care to associate only with those who are themselves crossing or have crossed to strengthen our faith.

[gHari 0]

Some people will naturally be envious of God and His supreme dominion over all that be. God has arranged it that these people can feel quite rational in not believing in a God. Perhaps in reverse relation to our own greatness, we accept God's existence proportionally; that is, the more we need to be great, the less we sincerely behave as though God really exists - no matter what our words profess.

 

 

[mpuri 0]

I picked these up from an email I received, hope you like some of them, essentially the answer to your question is that the 'proof is in the pudding':

 

(The Urantia Papers - Paper-1 Section-6)

The more completely man understands himself and appreciates the

personality values of his fellows, the more he will crave to know the

Original Personality, and the more earnestly such a God-knowing human

will strive to become like the Original Personality. You can argue over

opinions about God, but experience with him and in him exists above and

beyond all human controversy and mere intellectual logic. The God-knowing

man describes his spiritual experiences, not to convince unbelievers, but

for the edification and mutual satisfaction of believers.

 

(The Urantia Papers - Paper-1 Section-2)

The existence of God can never be proved by scientific experiment or by

the pure reason of logical deduction. God can be realized only in the

realms of human experience; nevertheless, the true concept of the reality

of God is reasonable to logic, plausible to philosophy, essential to

religion, and indispensable to any hope of personality survival.

Those who know God have experienced the fact of his presence; such God-

knowing mortals hold in their personal experience the only positive proof

of the existence of the living God which one human being can offer to

another. The existence of God is utterly beyond all possibility of

demonstration except for the contact between the God-consciousness of the

human mind and the God-presence of the Thought Adjuster that indwells the

mortal intellect and is bestowed upon man as the free gift of the

Universal Father.

 

 

(Sophy Burnham)

To believe in God or in a guiding force because someone tells you to is

the height of stupidity. We are given senses to receive our information

within. With our own eyes we see, and with our own skin we feel. With our

intelligence, it is intended that we understand. But each person must

puzzle it out for himself or herself.

 

( Tina Turner)

The real power behind whatever success I have now was something I found

within myself - something that's in all of us, I think, a little piece of

God just waiting to be discovered.

 

(Epictetus (55 AD - 135 AD)

When you close your doors, and make darkness within, remember never to

say that you are alone, for you are not alone; nay, God is within, and

your genius is within.

 

(Brenda Ueland)

Think of yourself as an incandescent power, illuminated and perhaps

forever talked to by God and his messengers.

 

(Seneca (5 BC - 65 AD)

Live among men as if God beheld you; speak to God as if men were

listening.

 

( Joel S. Goldsmith)

God must become an activity in our consciousness.

 

( Lantarnek - 9/26/04 - The North Idaho TeaM)

It is Fathers' will to experience your conditions, your qualities, to

merge in the experience of life with you, even As you. While the human

soul longs to be like God, recognizing the ideals of such a lofty

personality, the character, the attributes, accept (that) the Father also

seeks your qualities that condition, that specifies and distinguishes

your relationship with God from all other relationships with God.

In your search for unity, Father reaches out for diversity.

Understanding this dynamic between God and the human fosters acceptance

of one another, even promotes delight in the manner in which another

young soul in time and space undertakes the discovery of the eternal God

and in whom this same Father of you, explores this universe, experiences

a new soul. All people are valued the same for they are all highly

unique. While it is the tendency for time/space creatures to rank order

and rank things and people by value, to place one thing higher in worth

and another lower is not the way of God. Each person is of the highest

value, and all equally.

 

( Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)

It is difficult to make a man miserable while he feels worthy of himself

and claims kindred to the great God who made him.

 

( Lantarnek - 9/26/04 - The North Idaho TeaM)

Understanding this brings acceptance of oneself and acceptance of all

others and a deep trust in the overcare, concern, and love of our divine

parent. Prepare thyself and drink deeply my friends.

 

(Victor Hugo (1802 - 1885)

Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small

ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to

sleep in peace. God is awake.

 

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