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I've never had chiropractic manipulations but I have

popping noises in my vertebra (both neck and back)--

sometimes when I just lay down or turn in bed. I

believe this is from loose ligaments (a known side

effect of prednisone treatment I had) allowing the

facet joints to slip past each other. I could imagine

that too rough stretching from Chiropractic might

overstretch ligaments so they no longer hold the

joints as tight together as they should be (could

predispose to arthritis ?)

I also have crunching sounds when I move my head which

I believe are the bone spurs from my neck arthritis

rubbing against each other in the facet joints. (The

facet joints are tiny joints that connect the vertebra

together in the back and allow movement in the spine.

check out a chicken backbone and you'll see or look at

one of those models of the human spine in doctor's

offices)

Facet joint arthritis in the neck cause discomfort

in the sides of the neck where the inflamed facet

joints are and also refers pain to the back of the

neck depending on the level of joints involved. Lower

cervical facet joints also refer pain to the upper

back and shoulders. Upper cervical facet joints refer

pain to the head resulting in mild to severe

headaches.

Rochelle

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I've never had chiropractic manipulations but I have

popping noises in my vertebra (both neck and back)--

sometimes when I just lay down or turn in bed. I

believe this is from loose ligaments (a known side

effect of prednisone treatment I had) allowing the

facet joints to slip past each other. I could imagine

that too rough stretching from Chiropractic might

overstretch ligaments so they no longer hold the

joints as tight together as they should be (could

predispose to arthritis ?)

I also have crunching sounds when I move my head which

I believe are the bone spurs from my neck arthritis

rubbing against each other in the facet joints. (The

facet joints are tiny joints that connect the vertebra

together in the back and allow movement in the spine.

check out a chicken backbone and you'll see or look at

one of those models of the human spine in doctor's

offices)

Facet joint arthritis in the neck cause discomfort

in the sides of the neck where the inflamed facet

joints are and also refers pain to the back of the

neck depending on the level of joints involved. Lower

cervical facet joints also refer pain to the upper

back and shoulders. Upper cervical facet joints refer

pain to the head resulting in mild to severe

headaches.

Rochelle

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  • 1 year later...

Really...I am so tired of the well-meaning chiropractors we het on here...think

they can save the world...they think that surgeons destroy people and if people

just knew more about chiropractic care they could avoid surgery and live perfect

lives....

We've heard from choropractors like you many times before.

The reality is that you cannot remove bone spurs not stop their damage.

You cannot heal a degenerated disk that is unstable and prevent someone from

needing a fusion.

You cannot heal a compression fracture.

You cannot reverse anything but MAYBE a small disc bulge.

What you ARE good at is milking people for all they've got financially. Tellling

people they need to come weekly..even monthly for so long. They actually believe

it's true and say they can tell when they are overdue for a visit...have you

heard of the " placebo effect " ?

There's a reason why I didn't approve your request to join the group..apparently

someone else did.

 Please save your spouting for the suckers in your office. And puhleeze don't

call yourself a doctor. Ugh.

--- Babbitt

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From: b p <aquadc@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Mon, October 26, 2009 1:50:07 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Success Story

 

Spinal Stenosis (pathologic narrowing of the spinal canal) can cause; myelopathy

(cord pathology), radiculopathy (nerve root patholofy) and or other neurologic

problems.

Chiropractic Physicians manage this and all other conditions best because,

Chiropractic is all about helping the body body heal, naturally by modulating

nerves that control all physiology. See your Chiropractic Physician first for

all of your health care needs.

Please, call your Fed Rep Demanding Chiropractic Inclusion in any health care

reform and stop medical welfare ($1.5 Trillion per year Medicare Dope Act of

2002, muni bonds, etc, etc, etc). When medicine has no exclusive way to get at

your tax money, although the evidence supporting Chiropractic efficacy as

primary and neurologic specialists proving that medicine is 90% waste is well

established, we'll get what works best!

sincerely,

AQUADC, DABCN

>

>

>

> " I still wish that the medical industry would make it easier for us

> patients to make call easier by having only one industry perform spine

> surgery. "

>

> That's really not possible. There are some of us that have problems beyond

> bone issues that must be treated by a neurosurgeon. In order to treat my

> problems my neuro has to know the job of ortho's to remove, replace, and

> fuse the areas in my back after the job of working on my spinal cord/nerves

> is finished. I surely would not want to take away the ability of a neuro to

> be able to do the job of an ortho because then instead of paying one doctor,

> people like me would have to have two. Ortho to create the opening for the

> Neuro to work on the spinal cord, and then the Ortho would have to close,

> fuse or whatever after the neuro was finished. Neuro's have to know

> something about the bones to be able to do their job.

>

> It's like Tracey said if you have no spinal cord/brain issues then the

> choice should probably be an ortho.

>

>

>

> >

> > Actually Tacy you raised some good points. This was my second surgery and

> > both neuro and ortho agreed of fusion before the pain started to go down

> my

> > right leg again as before 4 years ago. When neo and ortho do micro

> > discetimys they do take out the bone witch is 4 mm around to get to the

> > disc. out of all microdiscetemys the 5-10% few will have a re-occurance.

> > The fact is both sugeons perform the same operations and get the ball

> > rolling with microdiscetimies but the question still remains that who of

> the

> > two are more affective in fusions and in spinal sclerosis surgery? From

> what

> > I know and saw when the neuro does fusion the recovery rate and pain is

> less

> > and faster The spine is a delicate place because you have so many nerve

> > ending there more then bone thats why I choose neuro surgeons but I still

> > wish that the medical industry would make it easier for us patients to

> make

> > call easier by having only one industry perform spine surgery.

> >

> > Bugsy

> >

>

>

>

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Roman Segal

Certified Integrity Investigator

847-414-0598

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