Guest guest Report post Posted April 21, 2007 Dear Anup and all, There are so many things to learn from this chart. That is why I gave this chart to forum. First thing is for multiple marriages. Second is progession as a Doctor. Lastly most important is to know about the mental condition of the native. In the given chart though Su to Ve distance is greater than 43 but this only one condition does not satisfy the promises of multiple marriages. As a progession of doctor Ma, Ve and Jup should be strong in the chart which needs more reading of the chart.This chart I did not find so. To know the mental condition of the native Mo is the primary planet , its situation, association and strength. The association of third and fourth lord and that of lagna lord and fifth lord. In other forum astrologer says that his third wife has done some black magic on him so he does not want live aloof from his third wife. On the other hand his second wife is crazy for him. So these are the points should be explored using KAS. The dates of all three marriages are given .His first marriage was broken legally with divorce. Trually speaking I am unable to find out all these conditions. May our guru Shri Krushna ji teach us on this chart. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Anup <dalh_1 wrote: Ramesh ji, Even i kept searching for a lesson to knew , how to determine multiple marriages.And in one lesson n:12. ..a hint is given as " Generally,when more than one marriage is indicated, the first marriage is performed in the sub of the sixth lord " . Yes, we need more lessons on this, how to find out the multiple marriage, from Krushnaji and Ash. Regards Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: Guru Shri Krushna Ji, Ash and all list members, To day I got one chart of a male doctor who married thrice and obsessed with his third wife.His second wife is crazy for him. The behaviour of doctor is adamant and wnats to live with his third wife. His birth details is as below. DOB 05 Dec 1959 TOB 09 :05 AM POB Hyderabad , India 17 N 26, 78 E 27. His first marriage was on 11 Oct 1987 Ju-Sa and then took divorce. Second marriage on 21 May 2002 Sa- Sa Third marriage on 04 Feb 2007, Sa- Ve First we have to confirm whether this chart indicates his profession as a Doctor. His Su to Ve distance is > 43 (45 deg 08 min ) Su is very close to Ju with 1 deg diff. only. I got the Asc as 24 Sg 9. His Ve is strong in SAV chart with 5 bindus and makes relationship with Mo who is in 4th place from Ve. Mo is also strong in sav chart with 5 bindus. Ve is weak in 5th,10th, 11th and 12th house in WS. Mo is weak in 1st, 4th, 8th and 12th house. 6th lord is Ve. How do we find out multiple marriages ? Here only Su to Ve distance is insufficient for multiple marriage . Pls shower light and go deeply on this chart. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 21, 2007 Dear Ramesh, On one hand many planets are in 12th house and we had solved a chart recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me and Su all in 12th house so the house that they all rule, the results of those get enhanced. Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and 9th house all of them. Next Moon is in a royal sign in navamsa as well. Lagna has 22 points and Ra aspects Moon. Now come to timing of event. There is no delay caused by Sa or Ju. So marriage should happen early. That is not matching. His first marriage was at 28th year of life. Then divorce in Sa antra and Sa also has high power. My thoughts - With the above birth time, I am not very satisfied regarding accuracy. There might be a large change in time. I checked the chart with Sco lagna means with time of 7:05 instead of 9:05 i.e. 2 hours difference. With that, I get marriage in line, Ma becomes 6th lord and its spoling Ju, Me and Sun. There is delay caused due to Ju and Sa and Ve are the only 2 planets that are strong and Venus is 45 deg away from Sun and also placed in 12th house and is SD to 6th lord Mars. Now first marriage happens in Sa antra and then Ju, Me, Ma and Mo all have lss power for 7th house, so Sa gave marriage and there after problems in Me. Next marriage in KEtu and KEtu is also like Sa so that gave another marriage. Third marriage might not be legal but that is happening in Ve antra. Only 2 planet are strong and Ve to sun distance is 45 and its SD to Ma. Ve is LoE as well so it can give but status will be spoilt so it might give some temporary marriage like thing. There is also 1 zero in 12th house due Jupiter which is quite rare. Ju is Karak for marrige and also 5th lord. Ju also gets full 8 bindus and in lagna. DBCE points also get into rising trend from lagna and sun. In any case, with the first case I can say that there are more planets in 12th house and try to justify, but then the timing of events is not matching? I rectify the time by 2 hours which is a lot and I do not know if the time given is accurate or not or has some one rectified the time or could there have been some mistake in registering the time, that I have no idea about. So, if the birth time given is accurate then I will say that I am not getting any concrete reasoning and the only glaring factor I see is many planets in 12th house, but then what about timing? In second case, timing of events match and for career I am getting Ju and Mars and that can show knives cutting etc for Mars and Ju as more advisory and doing good service and both of them are in 1st house so linked to 1st house. So these are my random thoughts that I am trying to pen down. I shall leave it to Krushnaji to correct my understanding if I am going wrong somewhere. Sorry, Ramesh and Anup, I am unable to justify timing of event with the given time. I have tried to do my best to rectify to a time where events are somewhat in line. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > > Dear Anup and all, > There are so many things to learn from this chart. That is why I gave this chart to forum. > First thing is for multiple marriages. > Second is progession as a Doctor. > Lastly most important is to know about the mental condition of the native. > In the given chart though Su to Ve distance is greater than 43 but this only one condition does not satisfy the promises of multiple marriages. > As a progession of doctor Ma, Ve and Jup should be strong in the chart which needs more reading of the chart.This chart I did not find so. > To know the mental condition of the native Mo is the primary planet , its situation, association and strength. > The association of third and fourth lord and that of lagna lord and fifth lord. > In other forum astrologer says that his third wife has done some black magic on him so he does not want live aloof from his third wife. > On the other hand his second wife is crazy for him. > So these are the points should be explored using KAS. > The dates of all three marriages are given .His first marriage was broken legally with divorce. > Trually speaking I am unable to find out all these conditions. > May our guru Shri Krushna ji teach us on this chart. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > Anup <dalh_1 wrote: > Ramesh ji, > > Even i kept searching for a lesson to knew , how to determine multiple marriages.And in one lesson n:12. ..a hint is given as " Generally,when more than one marriage is indicated, the first marriage is performed in the sub of the sixth lord " . > Yes, we need more lessons on this, how to find out the multiple marriage, from Krushnaji and Ash. > Regards > Anup ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 wrote: > Guru Shri Krushna Ji, Ash and all list members, > To day I got one chart of a male doctor who married thrice and obsessed with his third wife.His second wife is crazy for him. > The behaviour of doctor is adamant and wnats to live with his third wife. > His birth details is as below. > DOB 05 Dec 1959 TOB 09 :05 AM POB Hyderabad , India 17 N 26, 78 E 27. > His first marriage was on 11 Oct 1987 Ju-Sa and then took divorce. > Second marriage on 21 May 2002 Sa- Sa > Third marriage on 04 Feb 2007, Sa- Ve > First we have to confirm whether this chart indicates his profession as a Doctor. > His Su to Ve distance is > 43 (45 deg 08 min ) > Su is very close to Ju with 1 deg diff. only. > I got the Asc as 24 Sg 9. > His Ve is strong in SAV chart with 5 bindus and makes relationship with Mo who is in 4th place from Ve. Mo is also strong in sav chart with 5 bindus. > Ve is weak in 5th,10th, 11th and 12th house in WS. > Mo is weak in 1st, 4th, 8th and 12th house. > 6th lord is Ve. > How do we find out multiple marriages ? Here only Su to Ve distance is insufficient for multiple marriage . > Pls shower light and go deeply on this chart. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Ash, Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they rule ? Am I missing something here ? Satish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Ramesh, > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house and we > had solved a chart > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me and Su > all in 12th house > so the house that they all rule, the results of > those get enhanced. > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and 9th > house all of them. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Satish, 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special house. When planets go in 12th house they enhance the status of the house they rule. Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then the result of that house is enhanced. Now, here by Result I mean Quality. Another way of looking at it is that 6th house is the most malefic house so 7th from that is the most benefic house. There has been some discussion that you can look up in the archives when some people have showed surprise as in traditional VA, 12th house is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are enhanced and in VA they call it Vipareet Raj Yog 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status of 6th house so again VRY 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and at the same time enhances results of 3rd house Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they rule ? > > Am I missing something here ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house and we > > had solved a chart > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me and Su > > all in 12th house > > so the house that they all rule, the results of > > those get enhanced. > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and 9th > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Is it also true for the benefic aspects of 12th lord ? Whereever the 12th lord aspect beneficially , the result of that house will enhance ? 6th lord is always malefic. If 12th lord is aspecting 6th lord beneficially then can it reduce the maleficness of 6th lord ? Thanks Best Wishes Jagdish ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Satish, 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special house. When planets go in 12th house they enhance the status of the house they rule. Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then the result of that house is enhanced. Now, here by Result I mean Quality. Another way of looking at it is that 6th house is the most malefic house so 7th from that is the most benefic house. There has been some discussion that you can look up in the archives when some people have showed surprise as in traditional VA, 12th house is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are enhanced and in VA they call it Vipareet Raj Yog 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status of 6th house so again VRY 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and at the same time enhances results of 3rd house Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they rule ? > > Am I missing something here ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house and we > > had solved a chart > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me and Su > > all in 12th house > > so the house that they all rule, the results of > > those get enhanced. > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and 9th > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Satish, You can also add to this mail the portion that when 12th lord goes into 8th its also called VRY and as per KAS we say that 8th house results are enhanced, same way when 12th lord goes in 6th house then results of 6th house is enhanced and again that is also called VRY and some also call 3rd house or take 3rd house into factor for VRY and some schools do not but to us it does not matter, as 12th lord going into 3rd house will enhance its result and in other way LoD comes in House B so it will also become eager to giving timing of event as well. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Satish, 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special house. When planets go in 12th house they enhance the status of the house they rule. Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then the result of that house is enhanced. Now, here by Result I mean Quality. Another way of looking at it is that 6th house is the most malefic house so 7th from that is the most benefic house. There has been some discussion that you can look up in the archives when some people have showed surprise as in traditional VA, 12th house is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are enhanced and in VA they call it Vipareet Raj Yog 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status of 6th house so again VRY 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and at the same time enhances results of 3rd house Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they rule ? > > Am I missing something here ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house and we > > had solved a chart > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me and Su > > all in 12th house > > so the house that they all rule, the results of > > those get enhanced. > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and 9th > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Jadish, This is for planets in 12th house and the house where 12th lord goes and sits in the chart only. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: Is it also true for the benefic aspects of 12th lord ? Whereever the 12th lord aspect beneficially , the result of that house will enhance ? 6th lord is always malefic. If 12th lord is aspecting 6th lord beneficially then can it reduce the maleficness of 6th lord ? Thanks Best Wishes Jagdish ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Satish, 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special house. When planets go in 12th house they enhance the status of the house they rule. Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then the result of that house is enhanced. Now, here by Result I mean Quality. Another way of looking at it is that 6th house is the most malefic house so 7th from that is the most benefic house. There has been some discussion that you can look up in the archives when some people have showed surprise as in traditional VA, 12th house is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are enhanced and in VA they call it Vipareet Raj Yog 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status of 6th house so again VRY 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and at the same time enhances results of 3rd house Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they rule ? > > Am I missing something here ? > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house and we > > had solved a chart > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me and Su > > all in 12th house > > so the house that they all rule, the results of > > those get enhanced. > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and 9th > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Thanks Ash, In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th lord gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I am curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets residing in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed most malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) Satish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Satish, > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > house. When planets > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > house they rule. > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then the > result of that > house is enhanced. > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house is > the most malefic > house so 7th from that is the most benefic house. > > There has been some discussion that you can look up > in the archives > when some people have showed surprise as in > traditional VA, 12th house > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > enhanced and in VA they > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status of > 6th house so again VRY > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and at > the same time > enhances results of 3rd house > > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > rule ? > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > Satish > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house and > we > > > had solved a chart > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me and > Su > > > all in 12th house > > > so the house that they all rule, the results of > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and 9th > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Satish, Ok. Good question. Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most malefic right. Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. Now, depending on what you are finding or the context its being used it can be good or bad. So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. So that is D - B - E. Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th and this is upachya theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd creates chance for 6th and 11th is after event. Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are eager to giving timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be interpreted as giving or success in interview so that is " pre " event of 6th making chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. I hope you understand what I am trying to say above Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Thanks Ash, > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th lord > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I am > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets residing > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed most > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Satish, > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > house. When planets > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > house they rule. > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then the > > result of that > > house is enhanced. > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house is > > the most malefic > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic house. > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look up > > in the archives > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > traditional VA, 12th house > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > enhanced and in VA they > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status of > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and at > > the same time > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > rule ? > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > Satish > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house and > > we > > > > had solved a chart > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me and > > Su > > > > all in 12th house > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results of > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and 9th > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Satish, This verse is given from laghu prasari. " 40. During the sub-period of Saturn in the main ruling period of Venus, Saturn enhances the result of Venus, so is the case during the sub-period of Venus in the main ruling period of Saturn. In other words the sub-period Lord enacts like the main ruling period Lord. " AS PER KAS We say Sa and Ve are Natural Samdharmi. So one can step in for the other. We also say that if Venus is spoilt then the aspect of Saturn enhances the malefic results of Venus. Now here they are trying to say that one planet will act like other and we are saying that they are Samdharmi. We also say that that will not be the case when Ve and Sa go into 1:7 position when they have enmity. So that exception is covered by KAS as well. Actually, KAS had remained in Krushanji's and his Guruji family and was guarded so there is more chance that the knowledge remained there is pure and unadulterated over the passage of time. Actually, if one studies KAS in detail so many VA concepts will get clear. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Thanks Ash, > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th lord > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I am > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets residing > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed most > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Satish, > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > house. When planets > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > house they rule. > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then the > > result of that > > house is enhanced. > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house is > > the most malefic > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic house. > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look up > > in the archives > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > traditional VA, 12th house > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > enhanced and in VA they > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status of > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and at > > the same time > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > rule ? > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > Satish > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house and > > we > > > > had solved a chart > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me and > > Su > > > > all in 12th house > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results of > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and 9th > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Ash, Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th as B? I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic results as it is eager to give results of the 6th house, which has all the negative implications Satish --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > Dear Satish, > > Ok. Good question. > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > malefic right. > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > context its being used > it can be good or bad. > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > So that is D - B - E. > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > and this is upachya > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > creates chance for 6th > and 11th is after event. > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > eager to giving > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > interpreted as > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > event of 6th making > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising wrote: > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > lord > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > am > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > residing > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > most > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > Satish > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > house. When planets > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > house they rule. > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > the > > > result of that > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > is > > > the most malefic > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > house. > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > up > > > in the archives > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > of > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > at > > > the same time > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > , > SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > and > > > we > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > and > > > Su > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > of > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > 9th > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Satish This is another verse that I read from laghu parasarai. " 23. The 8th house from the Ascendant and the 8th from the 8th, i.e. the 3rd are the two houses of longevity. The houses related to death are the 12th from each of these. Thus the 2nd and the 7th are the Maraka houses. " AS PER KAS WE SAY 8th house is B for death and u find timing from that. 3rd house becomes A. So they are saying that A and B are 2 houses for logevity. Now as per KAS we say 7th house is that for accident so A becomes 2nd house, and another way to put it is 12th from House A and B for death and they are calling that Maraka. But for death timing it must be from 8th house and not from 7th or 2nd. Yes, say if 7th is triggering and 8th is powerful in antra of a planet and powerful means from WS, LoD and LoE etc then an accident can lead to death. Now Laghu parasarai is taking 8th and 3rd as B and A as 2 houses for logevity so 7th (B) and 2nd (A) are taken as Marak or can cause death but Death itself is from 8th. All this we are covering in KAS and with upchay theory. Infact planets in 6th, 2nd and 9th can give more life as they aspect ABC for 8th as B so these planets themselves can't give death. I think Krushanji has written about this in some old post. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Satish, > > This verse is given from laghu prasari. > > " 40. During the sub-period of Saturn in the main ruling period of > Venus, Saturn enhances the result of Venus, so is the case during the > sub-period of Venus in the main ruling period of Saturn. In other > words the sub-period Lord enacts like the main ruling period Lord. " > > AS PER KAS > > We say Sa and Ve are Natural Samdharmi. So one can step in for the other. > > We also say that if Venus is spoilt then the aspect of Saturn enhances > the malefic results of Venus. > > Now here they are trying to say that one planet will act like other > and we are saying that they are Samdharmi. > > We also say that that will not be the case when Ve and Sa go into 1:7 > position when they have enmity. So that exception is covered by KAS > as well. > > Actually, KAS had remained in Krushanji's and his Guruji family and > was guarded so there is more chance that the knowledge remained there > is pure and unadulterated over the passage of time. > > Actually, if one studies KAS in detail so many VA concepts will get clear. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th lord > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I am > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets residing > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed most > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > Satish > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > house. When planets > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > house they rule. > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then the > > > result of that > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house is > > > the most malefic > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic house. > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look up > > > in the archives > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status of > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and at > > > the same time > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house and > > > we > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me and > > > Su > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results of > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and 9th > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Satish, 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. 10th house is House C and 1st is A. So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same nakshtra lords. So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next generation of 6th is from 10th house. Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for Job, we take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like that. So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same so 11th house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role along with 6th so like that. But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > as B? > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > house, which has all the negative implications > > Satish > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: > > > Dear Satish, > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > malefic right. > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > context its being used > > it can be good or bad. > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > and this is upachya > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > creates chance for 6th > > and 11th is after event. > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > eager to giving > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > interpreted as > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > event of 6th making > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > lord > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > am > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > residing > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > most > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > Satish > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > house. When planets > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > the > > > > result of that > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > is > > > > the most malefic > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > house. > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > up > > > > in the archives > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > of > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > at > > > > the same time > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > and > > > > we > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > and > > > > Su > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > of > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > 9th > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Satish, Dear Satish, While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a few more verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not related to any other planet, give good results during their main ruling period and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " AS PER KAS We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give results. Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to give result for 4th and 8th. Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and enjoyment and right in this life time. Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good enjoymenet and knowledge and assets Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good inheritance/death and enjoyment. Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in 5th then Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to Sign lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly based on the points and status of the planet they represent. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Satish, > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same nakshtra lords. > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next generation of > 6th is from 10th house. > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for Job, we > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like that. > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same so 11th > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role along > with 6th so like that. > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , SPK > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > as B? > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > Satish > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > malefic right. > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > context its being used > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > and this is upachya > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > creates chance for 6th > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > eager to giving > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > interpreted as > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > event of 6th making > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > lord > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > am > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > residing > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > most > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > the > > > > > result of that > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > is > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > up > > > > > in the archives > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > of > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > at > > > > > the same time > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > and > > > > > we > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > > and > > > > > Su > > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > > of > > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > > 9th > > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Laghu prarasarai says " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are benefics or malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart from other house too. Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus lagna no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to judge more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one must study the same keenly. Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari or the expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th house. So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will become C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. Take Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush yog. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Dear Satish, > > Dear Satish, > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a few more > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not related to > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling period > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > AS PER KAS > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > results. > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > give result for 4th and 8th. > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and enjoyment and > right in this life time. > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good enjoymenet and > knowledge and assets > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good inheritance/death > and enjoyment. > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in 5th then > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to Sign > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly based on > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same nakshtra > lords. > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next generation of > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for Job, we > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like that. > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same so 11th > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role along > > with 6th so like that. > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , SPK > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > as B? > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > Satish > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > context its being used > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > and this is upachya > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > eager to giving > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > interpreted as > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > event of 6th making > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > lord > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > am > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > residing > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > most > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > the > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > is > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > up > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > of > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > at > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > SPK > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > and > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > > > and > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > > > of > > > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Ash, Thanks for the comparision of Lagu Parasari and KAS. Those make real sense. May be you can add these to your site or Donna's site? Regards Bala Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Laghu Parasarai says " 11. Mercury has less of this evil nature as compared to Venus; the Moon has much less than that of Mercury. The same way the Sun and the Moon are not evil being Asthmesh (lord of the 8th). " IN KAS WE SAY Mercury is more benefic than Venus for that you can see the total bindus in lesson one. Mercury has been allocated 54 benefic points and Venus has 52 benefic points. Moon hsa much less than that of Mercury it says, and if you check the bindus allocated to Moon its only 49 bindus or benefic points so compared to Mercury's 54, Moons is far less of 49. In KAS we say that Sun and Moon are not malefic as 6th lord or saptemesh but in laghu parasari its given for Ashtemesh. 6th house is what we take as most malefic and infact from 8th house we see death which is most auspicious event as per KAS and will happen in highest power planet or LoD or LoE etc. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Laghu prarasarai says > > " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses > by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are benefics or > malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th > houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " > > IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS > > 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or > malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart > from other house too. > > Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. > > Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus lagna > > no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. > > Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to judge > more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has > given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one > must study the same keenly. > > Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari or the > expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of > Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. > > The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about > planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. > > Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th house. > So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will > become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will become > C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. > > Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using > ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. Take > Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush yog. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a few more > > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not related to > > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling period > > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > > > AS PER KAS > > > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > > results. > > > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > > give result for 4th and 8th. > > > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and enjoyment and > > right in this life time. > > > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good enjoymenet and > > knowledge and assets > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good inheritance/death > > and enjoyment. > > > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in 5th then > > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to Sign > > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly based on > > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. > > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same nakshtra > > lords. > > > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next generation of > > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for Job, we > > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like > that. > > > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a > > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same so 11th > > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get > > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role along > > > with 6th so like that. > > > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > > as B? > > > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > > context its being used > > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > > and this is upachya > > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > > eager to giving > > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > > interpreted as > > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > > event of 6th making > > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > > lord > > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > > am > > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > > residing > > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > > most > > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > > the > > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > > is > > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > > up > > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > > of > > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > > at > > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > > and > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > > > > and > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Laghu Parasari says " 41. If the lord of the Ascendant and that of the 10th mutually exchange places, i.e., the Lord of the Ascendant is posited in the 10th and that of the 10th in the Ascendant then they form a Raja Yoga. They signify position, power and reputation. " IN KAS WE STUDY THE SAME AS 10th house is D for 1st so it will give good name fame to person. 4th house is 4th from 10th so like a helper or subordinate. 10th is that of authority. Now when the 2 exchange so 1st lord goes to 10th hosue means LoB has gone into House D. Just check Parvez Musharaf's chart. Sco lagna and Mars is in 10th house of the chart so its in House D. Next, if 10th lord goes into 1st house so itself is becoming a subordinate. Now as per KAS we go one step further and if the 1st lord goes into 10th house with less than 4 bindus and lord of 10th goes into 1st house with more than 4 bindus then the lord becomes very powerful means such a person has very good personality and powerful lagnesh. The power given will be that of 10th lord of the chart. 10th hosue is again special where malefic planets i.e. < 4 bindus are good. Now in some case Ju might become 10th and 1st lord so Pisces lagna and Virgo lagna so 10th and 1st lords are same. So if Ju is in lagna then such a person might get good name and reutation but at the same time it will affect the 7th house 9th house and 5th house with malefic aspect. Now if that is the case then the multiplication factor i.e sign backing will also be high for Mercury it would be 1.6 and for Ju it would be 1.4. So one can study like that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Laghu prarasarai says > > " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses > by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are benefics or > malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th > houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " > > IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS > > 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or > malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart > from other house too. > > Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. > > Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus lagna > > no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. > > Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to judge > more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has > given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one > must study the same keenly. > > Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari or the > expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of > Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. > > The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about > planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. > > Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th house. > So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will > become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will become > C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. > > Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using > ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. Take > Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush yog. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a few more > > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not related to > > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling period > > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > > > AS PER KAS > > > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > > results. > > > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > > give result for 4th and 8th. > > > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and enjoyment and > > right in this life time. > > > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good enjoymenet and > > knowledge and assets > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good inheritance/death > > and enjoyment. > > > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in 5th then > > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to Sign > > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly based on > > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. > > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same nakshtra > > lords. > > > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next generation of > > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for Job, we > > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like > that. > > > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a > > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same so 11th > > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get > > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role along > > > with 6th so like that. > > > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > > as B? > > > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > > context its being used > > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > > and this is upachya > > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > > eager to giving > > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > > interpreted as > > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > > event of 6th making > > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > > lord > > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > > am > > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > > residing > > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > > most > > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > > the > > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > > is > > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > > up > > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > > of > > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > > at > > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > > and > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > > > > and > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear Bala, Thanks for your recommendation. Let me look into it and see how I can organize it so that it will be useful for all and www Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , bala sosale <bsosale wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for the comparision of Lagu Parasari and KAS. Those make real sense. > > May be you can add these to your site or Donna's site? > > Regards > Bala > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Laghu Parasari says " 9. Lord of the 8th house (Randhresh) by virtue of being the 12th (Vyayesh) from the 9th (Bhagyesha) does not produce good results; but if he happens to be the lord of the Ascendant/Ascendant and occupies the 1st or the 8th house, he becomes benefic. " IN KAS WE SAY. 1) 12th lord from House B is not conducive to House B. 2) As per the above scenario, the exception is given where its said that if the 8th lord i.e. 12th from 9th is also lagna lord or posted in lagna then he becomes a benefic. Now lord of 8th and 1st can only be Mars or Venus and that too for Libra and Aries lagna. So if Venus is in Taurus and Mars is in Sco then they become benefic. So For both cases LoE is in House B for B = 8. So better results of 8th house. Also in both cases i.e. Aries lagna and Libra lagna 9th and 6th lords are same. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Laghu Parasarai says > > " 11. Mercury has less of this evil nature as compared to Venus; the > Moon has much less than that of Mercury. The same way the Sun and the > Moon are not evil being Asthmesh (lord of the 8th). " > > IN KAS WE SAY > > Mercury is more benefic than Venus for that you can see the total > bindus in lesson one. Mercury has been allocated 54 benefic points > and Venus has 52 benefic points. > > Moon hsa much less than that of Mercury it says, and if you check the > bindus allocated to Moon its only 49 bindus or benefic points so > compared to Mercury's 54, Moons is far less of 49. > > In KAS we say that Sun and Moon are not malefic as 6th lord or > saptemesh but in laghu parasari its given for Ashtemesh. > > 6th house is what we take as most malefic and infact from 8th house we > see death which is most auspicious event as per KAS and will happen in > highest power planet or LoD or LoE etc. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Laghu prarasarai says > > > > " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses > > by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are benefics or > > malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th > > houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " > > > > IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS > > > > 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or > > malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart > > from other house too. > > > > Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. > > > > Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus lagna > > > > no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. > > > > Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to judge > > more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has > > given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one > > must study the same keenly. > > > > Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari or the > > expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of > > Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. > > > > The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about > > planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. > > > > Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th house. > > So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will > > become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will become > > C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. > > > > Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using > > ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. Take > > Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush yog. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a few more > > > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > > > > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not related to > > > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling period > > > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > > > > > AS PER KAS > > > > > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > > > results. > > > > > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > > > give result for 4th and 8th. > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and enjoyment and > > > right in this life time. > > > > > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good enjoymenet and > > > knowledge and assets > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good inheritance/death > > > and enjoyment. > > > > > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in 5th then > > > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > > > > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to Sign > > > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly based on > > > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. > > > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same nakshtra > > > lords. > > > > > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next generation of > > > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for > Job, we > > > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like > > that. > > > > > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a > > > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same so 11th > > > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get > > > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role > along > > > > with 6th so like that. > > > > > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > > > as B? > > > > > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > > > context its being used > > > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > > > and this is upachya > > > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > > > eager to giving > > > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > > > interpreted as > > > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > > > event of 6th making > > > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > > > am > > > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > > > residing > > > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > > > most > > > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Laghu Parasarai says " 10. Amongst benefics the evil nature of Jupiter and Venus when they are lords of the Angles is extraordinary. If they own or occupy the Maraka sthana as lords of the Angles they become powerful killers. " ASH : Here if Ju and Ve go into 2nd house and here if EVIL NATURE is considered as Ju and Venus with less than 4 bindus and if they rule angles means 1st house inclusive then that will mean the following. 1) From 2nd house Ju and Ve with < 4 bindus will cast BENEFIC aspect on 8th house and will increase the power in the WS for 8th house. 2) At the same time in case when Ju and Ve would not have been 1st lord then their aspect would make them defunct to give result as per our law that planets aspecting house ABC cannot give rseults their SD's can but then OWNING 1st house they become LOE and aspect of LoE on ABC can still be considered for giving result. So Ju and Ve can still give result powerfully if they are in 2nd house with < 4 bindus " EVIL " and at the same time they own 1st house which means LOE for 8th as B. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Laghu Parasari says > > " 41. If the lord of the Ascendant and that of the 10th mutually > exchange places, i.e., the Lord of the Ascendant is posited in the > 10th and that of the 10th in the Ascendant then they form a Raja Yoga. > They signify position, power and reputation. " > > IN KAS WE STUDY THE SAME AS > > 10th house is D for 1st so it will give good name fame to person. 4th > house is 4th from 10th so like a helper or subordinate. 10th is that > of authority. > > Now when the 2 exchange so 1st lord goes to 10th hosue means LoB has > gone into House D. Just check Parvez Musharaf's chart. Sco lagna and > Mars is in 10th house of the chart so its in House D. > > Next, if 10th lord goes into 1st house so itself is becoming a > subordinate. Now as per KAS we go one step further and if the 1st > lord goes into 10th house with less than 4 bindus and lord of 10th > goes into 1st house with more than 4 bindus then the lord becomes very > powerful means such a person has very good personality and powerful > lagnesh. The power given will be that of 10th lord of the chart. > > 10th hosue is again special where malefic planets i.e. < 4 bindus are > good. > > Now in some case Ju might become 10th and 1st lord so Pisces lagna and > Virgo lagna so 10th and 1st lords are same. So if Ju is in lagna then > such a person might get good name and reutation but at the same time > it will affect the 7th house 9th house and 5th house with malefic > aspect. Now if that is the case then the multiplication factor i.e > sign backing will also be high for Mercury it would be 1.6 and for Ju > it would be 1.4. > > So one can study like that. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Laghu prarasarai says > > > > " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses > > by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are benefics or > > malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th > > houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " > > > > IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS > > > > 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or > > malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart > > from other house too. > > > > Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. > > > > Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus lagna > > > > no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. > > > > Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to judge > > more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has > > given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one > > must study the same keenly. > > > > Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari or the > > expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of > > Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. > > > > The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about > > planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. > > > > Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th house. > > So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will > > become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will become > > C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. > > > > Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using > > ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. Take > > Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush yog. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a few more > > > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > > > > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not related to > > > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling period > > > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > > > > > AS PER KAS > > > > > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > > > results. > > > > > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > > > give result for 4th and 8th. > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and enjoyment and > > > right in this life time. > > > > > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good enjoymenet and > > > knowledge and assets > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good inheritance/death > > > and enjoyment. > > > > > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in 5th then > > > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > > > > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to Sign > > > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly based on > > > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. > > > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same nakshtra > > > lords. > > > > > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next generation of > > > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for > Job, we > > > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like > > that. > > > > > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a > > > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same so 11th > > > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get > > > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role > along > > > > with 6th so like that. > > > > > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > > > as B? > > > > > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > > > context its being used > > > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > > > and this is upachya > > > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > > > eager to giving > > > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > > > interpreted as > > > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > > > event of 6th making > > > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > > > am > > > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > > > residing > > > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > > > most > > > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Laghu Parasari says " 33. If a Raja Yoga is operative in the Sub-period of a Yogakaraka but Maraka planet, it improves the effect of such a Yoga. In the same way the sub-period of a malefic promotes the results. " IN KAS WE CAN STUDY THE SAME AND WE SAY RAJA YOGA IS PLANET OWNING TRINE AND KENDRA AND IN THE SUB PERIOD OR ANTRA OF MARAK PLANET (7TH LORD) IS RUNNING THEN IT IMPROVES. NOW SAY 5TH LORD MD IS RUNNING SO IN KAS WE SAY THAT MD IS RELATED TO STATUS. NOW SAY CANCER LAGNA IS THERE AND MARS RULES 5TH AND 10TH HOUSE AND MD OR MARS IS RUNNING. INSIDE THAT ANTRA OF SATURN IS RUNNING WHO IS MARAK PLANET I.E. 7TH LORD, SO AS PER ABOVE TEXT ITS SAID THAT THE EFFECT OF SUCH A YOGA WILL BE IMPROVED. SO MD RELATED TO 5TH HOUSE AND BEING LORD OF 10TH SO KARAK FOR 3RD AND AT THE SAME TIME LOD MEANS 10TH FROM 10TH LORDS ANTRA IS RUNNING AND AT SAME TIME ITS ALSO 8TH LORD SO LOD FOR 11TH SO OFCOUSE THINGS WILL BECOME MORE BETTER. THIS WE ARE CONSIDERING IN KAS USING OUR LAWS. NEXT POINT ITS SAID ABOVE THAT SUB PERIOD OF MALEFICS PROMOTES THE RESULTS SO HERE WE ALSO SAY, THAT MALEFIC PLANETS ASPECT WITH BENEFIC SIGHT SO FOR MARS AND SATURN WHO ARE NATURAL MALEFICS IF THEY ARE MOSTLY WITH LESS THAN 3 BINDUS SO THEY WILL BAD FOR 1 HOUSE AT THE SAME TIME THEY WILL ASPECT BENEFICALLY TO 3 HOUSES INCRESING THEIR POWER. SO AS PER KAS WE ALSO SAY THAT ITS BETTER TO HAVE PLANETS IN NEECHA SIGN AND WITH LESS THAN 4 BINDUS RELATIVELY SPEAKING SO THAT 3 PLANETS JU MA AND SA HAVE 3 ASPECTS EACH AND THEY WILL INCREASE THE POINTWS OF THE 3 HOUSE THEY ASPECT. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Laghu Parasari says > > " 9. Lord of the 8th house (Randhresh) by virtue of being the 12th > (Vyayesh) from the 9th (Bhagyesha) does not produce good results; but > if he happens to be the lord of the Ascendant/Ascendant and occupies > the 1st or the 8th house, he becomes benefic. " > > IN KAS WE SAY. > > 1) 12th lord from House B is not conducive to House B. > > 2) As per the above scenario, the exception is given where its said > that if the 8th lord i.e. 12th from 9th is also lagna lord or posted > in lagna then he becomes a benefic. > > Now lord of 8th and 1st can only be Mars or Venus and that too for > Libra and Aries lagna. So if Venus is in Taurus and Mars is in Sco > then they become benefic. > > So For both cases LoE is in House B for B = 8. So better results of > 8th house. > > Also in both cases i.e. Aries lagna and Libra lagna 9th and 6th lords > are same. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Laghu Parasarai says > > > > " 11. Mercury has less of this evil nature as compared to Venus; the > > Moon has much less than that of Mercury. The same way the Sun and the > > Moon are not evil being Asthmesh (lord of the 8th). " > > > > IN KAS WE SAY > > > > Mercury is more benefic than Venus for that you can see the total > > bindus in lesson one. Mercury has been allocated 54 benefic points > > and Venus has 52 benefic points. > > > > Moon hsa much less than that of Mercury it says, and if you check the > > bindus allocated to Moon its only 49 bindus or benefic points so > > compared to Mercury's 54, Moons is far less of 49. > > > > In KAS we say that Sun and Moon are not malefic as 6th lord or > > saptemesh but in laghu parasari its given for Ashtemesh. > > > > 6th house is what we take as most malefic and infact from 8th house we > > see death which is most auspicious event as per KAS and will happen in > > highest power planet or LoD or LoE etc. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Laghu prarasarai says > > > > > > " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses > > > by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are benefics or > > > malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th > > > houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " > > > > > > IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS > > > > > > 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or > > > malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart > > > from other house too. > > > > > > Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. > > > > > > Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus lagna > > > > > > no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. > > > > > > Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to judge > > > more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has > > > given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one > > > must study the same keenly. > > > > > > Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari or the > > > expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of > > > Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. > > > > > > The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about > > > planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. > > > > > > Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th house. > > > So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will > > > become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will become > > > C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. > > > > > > Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using > > > ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. Take > > > Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush > yog. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a > few more > > > > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > > > > > > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not > related to > > > > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling period > > > > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS > > > > > > > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > > > > results. > > > > > > > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > > > > give result for 4th and 8th. > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and > enjoyment and > > > > right in this life time. > > > > > > > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good enjoymenet and > > > > knowledge and assets > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good > inheritance/death > > > > and enjoyment. > > > > > > > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in > 5th then > > > > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > > > > > > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to Sign > > > > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly > based on > > > > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. > > > > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > > > > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same > nakshtra > > > > lords. > > > > > > > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next > generation of > > > > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > > > > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for > > Job, we > > > > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a > > > > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same > so 11th > > > > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get > > > > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role > > along > > > > > with 6th so like that. > > > > > > > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > > > > as B? > > > > > > > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > > > > context its being used > > > > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > > > > and this is upachya > > > > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > > > > eager to giving > > > > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > > > > interpreted as > > > > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > > > > event of 6th making > > > > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > > > > residing > > > > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Laghu Parasari says " 8. Lords of the 2nd and 12th houses are powerful not because of their own merit; they are greatly influenced in giving good or bad results by their association or position in the chart. " AS PER KAS WE SAY In KAS we say that 2nd lord and antra of 2nd lord or its SD can cause unnecessary worries for the native. We say that 12th lord where he goes and sits it enhances the result of that house. In addition we also say that if planets go to 12th house of the chart then the results of house ruled by them is enhanced. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Laghu Parasari says > > " 33. If a Raja Yoga is operative in the Sub-period of a Yogakaraka > but Maraka planet, it improves the effect of such a Yoga. In the same > way the sub-period of a malefic promotes the results. " > > IN KAS WE CAN STUDY THE SAME AND WE SAY > > RAJA YOGA IS PLANET OWNING TRINE AND KENDRA AND IN THE SUB PERIOD OR > ANTRA OF MARAK PLANET (7TH LORD) IS RUNNING THEN IT IMPROVES. > > NOW SAY 5TH LORD MD IS RUNNING SO IN KAS WE SAY THAT MD IS RELATED TO > STATUS. NOW SAY CANCER LAGNA IS THERE AND MARS RULES 5TH AND 10TH > HOUSE AND MD OR MARS IS RUNNING. INSIDE THAT ANTRA OF SATURN IS > RUNNING WHO IS MARAK PLANET I.E. 7TH LORD, SO AS PER ABOVE TEXT ITS > SAID THAT THE EFFECT OF SUCH A YOGA WILL BE IMPROVED. > > SO MD RELATED TO 5TH HOUSE AND BEING LORD OF 10TH SO KARAK FOR 3RD AND > AT THE SAME TIME LOD MEANS 10TH FROM 10TH LORDS ANTRA IS RUNNING AND > AT SAME TIME ITS ALSO 8TH LORD SO LOD FOR 11TH SO OFCOUSE THINGS WILL > BECOME MORE BETTER. THIS WE ARE CONSIDERING IN KAS USING OUR LAWS. > > > > NEXT POINT ITS SAID ABOVE THAT SUB PERIOD OF MALEFICS PROMOTES THE > RESULTS SO HERE WE ALSO SAY, THAT MALEFIC PLANETS ASPECT WITH BENEFIC > SIGHT SO FOR MARS AND SATURN WHO ARE NATURAL MALEFICS IF THEY ARE > MOSTLY WITH LESS THAN 3 BINDUS SO THEY WILL BAD FOR 1 HOUSE AT THE > SAME TIME THEY WILL ASPECT BENEFICALLY TO 3 HOUSES INCRESING THEIR > POWER. > > SO AS PER KAS WE ALSO SAY THAT ITS BETTER TO HAVE PLANETS IN NEECHA > SIGN AND WITH LESS THAN 4 BINDUS RELATIVELY SPEAKING SO THAT 3 PLANETS > JU MA AND SA HAVE 3 ASPECTS EACH AND THEY WILL INCREASE THE POINTWS OF > THE 3 HOUSE THEY ASPECT. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Laghu Parasari says > > > > " 9. Lord of the 8th house (Randhresh) by virtue of being the 12th > > (Vyayesh) from the 9th (Bhagyesha) does not produce good results; but > > if he happens to be the lord of the Ascendant/Ascendant and occupies > > the 1st or the 8th house, he becomes benefic. " > > > > IN KAS WE SAY. > > > > 1) 12th lord from House B is not conducive to House B. > > > > 2) As per the above scenario, the exception is given where its said > > that if the 8th lord i.e. 12th from 9th is also lagna lord or posted > > in lagna then he becomes a benefic. > > > > Now lord of 8th and 1st can only be Mars or Venus and that too for > > Libra and Aries lagna. So if Venus is in Taurus and Mars is in Sco > > then they become benefic. > > > > So For both cases LoE is in House B for B = 8. So better results of > > 8th house. > > > > Also in both cases i.e. Aries lagna and Libra lagna 9th and 6th lords > > are same. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Laghu Parasarai says > > > > > > " 11. Mercury has less of this evil nature as compared to Venus; the > > > Moon has much less than that of Mercury. The same way the Sun and the > > > Moon are not evil being Asthmesh (lord of the 8th). " > > > > > > IN KAS WE SAY > > > > > > Mercury is more benefic than Venus for that you can see the total > > > bindus in lesson one. Mercury has been allocated 54 benefic points > > > and Venus has 52 benefic points. > > > > > > Moon hsa much less than that of Mercury it says, and if you check the > > > bindus allocated to Moon its only 49 bindus or benefic points so > > > compared to Mercury's 54, Moons is far less of 49. > > > > > > In KAS we say that Sun and Moon are not malefic as 6th lord or > > > saptemesh but in laghu parasari its given for Ashtemesh. > > > > > > 6th house is what we take as most malefic and infact from 8th house we > > > see death which is most auspicious event as per KAS and will happen in > > > highest power planet or LoD or LoE etc. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Laghu prarasarai says > > > > > > > > " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses > > > > by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are > benefics or > > > > malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th > > > > houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " > > > > > > > > IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS > > > > > > > > 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or > > > > malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart > > > > from other house too. > > > > > > > > Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. > > > > > > > > Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus > lagna > > > > > > > > no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. > > > > > > > > Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to > judge > > > > more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has > > > > given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one > > > > must study the same keenly. > > > > > > > > Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari > or the > > > > expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of > > > > Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. > > > > > > > > The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about > > > > planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. > > > > > > > > Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th > house. > > > > So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will > > > > become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will > become > > > > C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. > > > > > > > > Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using > > > > ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. > Take > > > > Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush > > yog. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a > > few more > > > > > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > > > > > > > > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not > > related to > > > > > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling > period > > > > > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS > > > > > > > > > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > > > > > give result for 4th and 8th. > > > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and > > enjoyment and > > > > > right in this life time. > > > > > > > > > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good > enjoymenet and > > > > > knowledge and assets > > > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good > > inheritance/death > > > > > and enjoyment. > > > > > > > > > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in > > 5th then > > > > > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > > > > > > > > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to > Sign > > > > > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly > > based on > > > > > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as > job. > > > > > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > > > > > > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same > > nakshtra > > > > > lords. > > > > > > > > > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next > > generation of > > > > > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for > > > Job, we > > > > > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, > like > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs > for a > > > > > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same > > so 11th > > > > > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job > to get > > > > > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role > > > along > > > > > > with 6th so like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > > > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > > > > > as B? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > > > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > > > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > > > > > context its being used > > > > > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > > > > > and this is upachya > > > > > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > > > > > eager to giving > > > > > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > > > > > interpreted as > > > > > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > > > > > event of 6th making > > > > > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > > > > > residing > > > > > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. Ju, Ma, Me > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > Su > > > > > > > > > > > > all in 12th house > > > > > > > > > > > > so the house that they all rule, the results > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > those get enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Means 7th, 10th, 1st, 4th, 5th and 12th and > > > > > > > > 9th > > > > > > > > > > > > house all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Dear ASH, Can a marriage in the antra of 2nd lord be a happy marriage? Coz as u say, this 2ND LORD ANTRA gives worry for no reasons:) Regards ANUP ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Laghu Parasari says " 8. Lords of the 2nd and 12th houses are powerful not because of their own merit; they are greatly influenced in giving good or bad results by their association or position in the chart. " AS PER KAS WE SAY In KAS we say that 2nd lord and antra of 2nd lord or its SD can cause unnecessary worries for the native. We say that 12th lord where he goes and sits it enhances the result of that house. In addition we also say that if planets go to 12th house of the chart then the results of house ruled by them is enhanced. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Laghu Parasari says > > " 33. If a Raja Yoga is operative in the Sub-period of a Yogakaraka > but Maraka planet, it improves the effect of such a Yoga. In the same > way the sub-period of a malefic promotes the results. " > > IN KAS WE CAN STUDY THE SAME AND WE SAY > > RAJA YOGA IS PLANET OWNING TRINE AND KENDRA AND IN THE SUB PERIOD OR > ANTRA OF MARAK PLANET (7TH LORD) IS RUNNING THEN IT IMPROVES. > > NOW SAY 5TH LORD MD IS RUNNING SO IN KAS WE SAY THAT MD IS RELATED TO > STATUS. NOW SAY CANCER LAGNA IS THERE AND MARS RULES 5TH AND 10TH > HOUSE AND MD OR MARS IS RUNNING. INSIDE THAT ANTRA OF SATURN IS > RUNNING WHO IS MARAK PLANET I.E. 7TH LORD, SO AS PER ABOVE TEXT ITS > SAID THAT THE EFFECT OF SUCH A YOGA WILL BE IMPROVED. > > SO MD RELATED TO 5TH HOUSE AND BEING LORD OF 10TH SO KARAK FOR 3RD AND > AT THE SAME TIME LOD MEANS 10TH FROM 10TH LORDS ANTRA IS RUNNING AND > AT SAME TIME ITS ALSO 8TH LORD SO LOD FOR 11TH SO OFCOUSE THINGS WILL > BECOME MORE BETTER. THIS WE ARE CONSIDERING IN KAS USING OUR LAWS. > > ------------------------- > > NEXT POINT ITS SAID ABOVE THAT SUB PERIOD OF MALEFICS PROMOTES THE > RESULTS SO HERE WE ALSO SAY, THAT MALEFIC PLANETS ASPECT WITH BENEFIC > SIGHT SO FOR MARS AND SATURN WHO ARE NATURAL MALEFICS IF THEY ARE > MOSTLY WITH LESS THAN 3 BINDUS SO THEY WILL BAD FOR 1 HOUSE AT THE > SAME TIME THEY WILL ASPECT BENEFICALLY TO 3 HOUSES INCRESING THEIR > POWER. > > SO AS PER KAS WE ALSO SAY THAT ITS BETTER TO HAVE PLANETS IN NEECHA > SIGN AND WITH LESS THAN 4 BINDUS RELATIVELY SPEAKING SO THAT 3 PLANETS > JU MA AND SA HAVE 3 ASPECTS EACH AND THEY WILL INCREASE THE POINTWS OF > THE 3 HOUSE THEY ASPECT. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Laghu Parasari says > > > > " 9. Lord of the 8th house (Randhresh) by virtue of being the 12th > > (Vyayesh) from the 9th (Bhagyesha) does not produce good results; but > > if he happens to be the lord of the Ascendant/Ascendant and occupies > > the 1st or the 8th house, he becomes benefic. " > > > > IN KAS WE SAY. > > > > 1) 12th lord from House B is not conducive to House B. > > > > 2) As per the above scenario, the exception is given where its said > > that if the 8th lord i.e. 12th from 9th is also lagna lord or posted > > in lagna then he becomes a benefic. > > > > Now lord of 8th and 1st can only be Mars or Venus and that too for > > Libra and Aries lagna. So if Venus is in Taurus and Mars is in Sco > > then they become benefic. > > > > So For both cases LoE is in House B for B = 8. So better results of > > 8th house. > > > > Also in both cases i.e. Aries lagna and Libra lagna 9th and 6th lords > > are same. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Laghu Parasarai says > > > > > > " 11. Mercury has less of this evil nature as compared to Venus; the > > > Moon has much less than that of Mercury. The same way the Sun and the > > > Moon are not evil being Asthmesh (lord of the 8th). " > > > > > > IN KAS WE SAY > > > > > > Mercury is more benefic than Venus for that you can see the total > > > bindus in lesson one. Mercury has been allocated 54 benefic points > > > and Venus has 52 benefic points. > > > > > > Moon hsa much less than that of Mercury it says, and if you check the > > > bindus allocated to Moon its only 49 bindus or benefic points so > > > compared to Mercury's 54, Moons is far less of 49. > > > > > > In KAS we say that Sun and Moon are not malefic as 6th lord or > > > saptemesh but in laghu parasari its given for Ashtemesh. > > > > > > 6th house is what we take as most malefic and infact from 8th house we > > > see death which is most auspicious event as per KAS and will happen in > > > highest power planet or LoD or LoE etc. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Laghu prarasarai says > > > > > > > > " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses > > > > by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are > benefics or > > > > malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th > > > > houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " > > > > > > > > IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS > > > > > > > > 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or > > > > malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart > > > > from other house too. > > > > > > > > Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. > > > > > > > > Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus > lagna > > > > > > > > no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. > > > > > > > > Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to > judge > > > > more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has > > > > given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one > > > > must study the same keenly. > > > > > > > > Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari > or the > > > > expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of > > > > Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. > > > > > > > > The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about > > > > planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. > > > > > > > > Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th > house. > > > > So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will > > > > become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will > become > > > > C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. > > > > > > > > Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using > > > > ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. > Take > > > > Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush > > yog. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a > > few more > > > > > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > > > > > > > > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not > > related to > > > > > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling > period > > > > > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > > > > > > > > > AS PER KAS > > > > > > > > > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > > > > > give result for 4th and 8th. > > > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and > > enjoyment and > > > > > right in this life time. > > > > > > > > > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good > enjoymenet and > > > > > knowledge and assets > > > > > > > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good > > inheritance/death > > > > > and enjoyment. > > > > > > > > > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in > > 5th then > > > > > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > > > > > > > > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to > Sign > > > > > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly > > based on > > > > > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as > job. > > > > > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > > > > > > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same > > nakshtra > > > > > lords. > > > > > > > > > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next > > generation of > > > > > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for > > > Job, we > > > > > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, > like > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs > for a > > > > > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same > > so 11th > > > > > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job > to get > > > > > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role > > > along > > > > > > with 6th so like that. > > > > > > > > > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > > > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > > > > > as B? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > > > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > > > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > > > > > context its being used > > > > > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > > > > > and this is upachya > > > > > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > > > > > eager to giving > > > > > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > > > > > interpreted as > > > > > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > > > > > event of 6th making > > > > > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > > > > > residing > > > > > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. 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Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2007 Just an imaginary situation... Considering the same analogy When Lagnesh is in 6th house then LOB is in House E. And when 6th lord is in Lagna then LoE is in house B. Is it a raj-yoga ? Best Wishes Jagdish ashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Laghu Parasari says " 41. If the lord of the Ascendant and that of the 10th mutually exchange places, i.e., the Lord of the Ascendant is posited in the 10th and that of the 10th in the Ascendant then they form a Raja Yoga. They signify position, power and reputation. " IN KAS WE STUDY THE SAME AS 10th house is D for 1st so it will give good name fame to person. 4th house is 4th from 10th so like a helper or subordinate. 10th is that of authority. Now when the 2 exchange so 1st lord goes to 10th hosue means LoB has gone into House D. Just check Parvez Musharaf's chart. Sco lagna and Mars is in 10th house of the chart so its in House D. Next, if 10th lord goes into 1st house so itself is becoming a subordinate. Now as per KAS we go one step further and if the 1st lord goes into 10th house with less than 4 bindus and lord of 10th goes into 1st house with more than 4 bindus then the lord becomes very powerful means such a person has very good personality and powerful lagnesh. The power given will be that of 10th lord of the chart. 10th hosue is again special where malefic planets i.e. < 4 bindus are good. Now in some case Ju might become 10th and 1st lord so Pisces lagna and Virgo lagna so 10th and 1st lords are same. So if Ju is in lagna then such a person might get good name and reutation but at the same time it will affect the 7th house 9th house and 5th house with malefic aspect. Now if that is the case then the multiplication factor i.e sign backing will also be high for Mercury it would be 1.6 and for Ju it would be 1.4. So one can study like that. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 wrote: > > Laghu prarasarai says > > " 6. All the planets owning Trines, i.e. the 1st, 5th and 9th Houses > by signs produce uniformly good results, whether they are benefics or > malefics. If they own the Trick houses, i.e. the 3rd, 6th and 11th > houses by signs, they are always disposed towards evil. " > > IN KAS WE STUDY IT AS FOLLOWS > > 1st 5th and 9th are good irrsepective the are owned by benefics or > malefics as in all cases of 5th and 9th they will trigger 12th apart > from other house too. > > Now only Me and Ju might own 9th and 6th. > > Ve and Ma might own 1st and 6th together so sco lagna or taurus lagna > > no planet can own 3rd and 5th or 11th and 9th. > > Now in KAS we would go into further detail using Ashtakavarga to judge > more closely who will the planet behave more like. Krushanji has > given that for Mars and Venus especially when owning 6th house one > must study the same keenly. > > Now this part is not covered in the write up in laghu parasari or the > expectation is that one must know these things as fundamentals of > Astrology as its given or indicated in the first few verses. > > The same or similar thing with the next verse where they say about > planets owning trine and 3-6-11 simultaneously. > > Now, take Saturn and aries lagna so Sa will own 10th and 11th house. > So Sa is not necessarily bad for all events. For 10th house it will > become B and A for 3rd house so it will give hard work it will become > C for 6th and D for 1st and E for 5th. > > Similarly Sa owning 3rd and 4th house so again you can study using > ABCDE theory and it need not be the case that Sa is bad or evil. Take > Sco lagna and Sa in 4th house then as per VA its sasa mahapurush yog. > > Cheers !!! > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > While I have laghu parasarai open and a few mins will write a few more > > verses explanation.... it might be useful for some other students. > > > > " 36. Rahu-Ketu, if posited in a Trine or Angle and are not related to > > any other planet, give good results during their main ruling period > > and in the sub-period of a Yoga Karaka. " > > > > AS PER KAS > > > > We are saying Ra and Ke located in House D and E are eager to give > > results. > > > > Now when Ra/Ke is placed in 1st house then it will become eager to > > give result for 4th and 8th. > > > > Ra/Ke in 4th house can give marriage and good income > > > > Ra/Ke in 7th house can give good authority and wealth > > > > Ra/Ke in 10th house can give good status reputation and good luck > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th or 9th will trigger 12th house of moksh and enjoyment and > > right in this life time. > > > > Ra/ke in 9th house will trigger 12th and 4th so good enjoymenet and > > knowledge and assets > > > > Ra/Ke in 5th will trigger 12th and 8th house so good inheritance/death > > and enjoyment. > > > > Ofcouse when Ra is in 9th then Ke is in 3rd and when Ra is in 5th then > > Ketu is in 11th so thereby triggering 2 more houses atleast. > > > > Then you can add the SD portion to it i.e .Ra and Ke are Sd to Sign > > lord AND NAK LORD and give predictions or timing accordingly based on > > the points and status of the planet they represent. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > 6th is that of serve, so in modern context we can take it as job. > > > 10th house is House C and 1st is A. > > > > > > So 10th is next generation and 10th and 6th will have same nakshtra > > lords. > > > > > > So for Job, 6th house and for authority which is next generation of > > > 6th is from 10th house. > > > > > > Now, you have asked a detailed question, so when studying for Job, we > > > take help of WS and study whats going on in 11th, 10th, 6th, like > that. > > > > > > So say, one person has a job but he or she might change jobs for a > > > higher paying job then in that case WS will reflect the same so 11th > > > house power would trigger or if he or she is leaving a job to get > > > higher authority and income then 10th and 11th will play a role along > > > with 6th so like that. > > > > > > But 6th house is job and 10th is authority. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > , SPK > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > Thanks. I think I get the drift of the logic. Now > > > > looking at job timing, do you look at 6th as B or 10th > > > > as B? > > > > > > > > I can also see how 11th lord dasha can give malefic > > > > results as it is eager to give results of the 6th > > > > house, which has all the negative implications > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question. > > > > > > > > > > Take 6th house as B. We say 6th house is most > > > > > malefic right. > > > > > > > > > > Now 3rd house becomes D and 11th house becomes E. > > > > > > > > > > Now, depending on what you are finding or the > > > > > context its being used > > > > > it can be good or bad. > > > > > > > > > > So now why Laghu prarashari has used 3-6-11 only. > > > > > So that is D - B - E. > > > > > > > > > > Both 3rd and 11th are eager to give result for 6th > > > > > and this is upachya > > > > > theory and 3rd and 11th have diffence i.e. 3rd > > > > > creates chance for 6th > > > > > and 11th is after event. > > > > > > > > > > Say you are studying job timing so 3rd and 11th are > > > > > eager to giving > > > > > timing of event, now 3rd is also parakram and can be > > > > > interpreted as > > > > > giving or success in interview so that is " pre " > > > > > event of 6th making > > > > > chance and 11th is income so that starts after job. > > > > > > > > > > I hope you understand what I am trying to say above > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > , SPK > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > In VA, those who follow laghu parashari, the 12th > > > > > lord > > > > > > gives results by association so is not bad. 3-6-11 > > > > > > lords are malefic 11th being the most malefic. I > > > > > am > > > > > > curious to know how 11th lord ( Not planets > > > > > residing > > > > > > in 11th) is treated in KAS. As per laghu parashari > > > > > > planets in 11th are ok but 11th lord is deemed > > > > > most > > > > > > malefic. ( 6th is lesser and 3rd lesser than 6th) > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Satish, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12th house is that of Moksh. Its a very special > > > > > > > house. When planets > > > > > > > go in 12th house they enhance the status of the > > > > > > > house they rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same way, when 12th lord goes into a house then > > > > > the > > > > > > > result of that > > > > > > > house is enhanced. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, here by Result I mean Quality. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another way of looking at it is that 6th house > > > > > is > > > > > > > the most malefic > > > > > > > house so 7th from that is the most benefic > > > > > house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There has been some discussion that you can look > > > > > up > > > > > > > in the archives > > > > > > > when some people have showed surprise as in > > > > > > > traditional VA, 12th house > > > > > > > is only taken for loss and is deemded bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th lord in 12th means 8th house results are > > > > > > > enhanced and in VA they > > > > > > > call it Vipareet Raj Yog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th lord in 12th house also enahnces the status > > > > > of > > > > > > > 6th house so again VRY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd lord in 12th again, in House D for 3rd and > > > > > at > > > > > > > the same time > > > > > > > enhances results of 3rd house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > SPK > > > > > > > <aquaris_rising@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why planets in 12 th house enhance houses they > > > > > > > rule ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing something here ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Satish > > > > > > > > --- ashsam73 <ashsam73@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ramesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On one hand many planets are in 12th house > > > > > and > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > had solved a chart > > > > > > > > > recently that Satish had given. 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