more on man the hunted if you're interested

[Guest guest]

there are a few brands here, wrapped in oh so environmentally sound plastic.

i forget which one rebecca likes...maybe its wildwood...

*shrug*

i know it when i see it...

i liked the redwood tofu's and analogs a lot over on your side of the pond

Peter VV Sep 13, 2007 4:35 PM Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only braised tofu I have seen comes ina can in the health food shops. It costs 2 quid a small tin, so needless to say I havent tried it yet!

I only eat tofu/beancurd about 1 or twice a fortnight from the chinese takeaway.

 

The Valley Vegan...............

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Thursday, 13 September, 2007 7:47:14 PMRe: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

rebecca is really into some braised tofu's she purchases on a regular basis

i tend to like em plain and flavor em up meself

tis ok, there's a really good tofu we pruchase at the farmers market....

the only drawback is it literally has a shelf life of 2, maybe 3 days at the most...

generally we purchase WildWood brand made up in San Rafael

 

jo Sep 13, 2007 11:29 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 We usually get the basic tofu, although Peter had a braised tofu once which was very tasty, and a different texture. It's a shame about your favourite.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:25 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

we prolly have tofu 3 times a week..maybe more on certain weeks

i'll often eat it straight out of the package while cooking with it

sadly, my fave tasting tofu, small planet, is harder to find around here the last year. i think Rainbow is the only place i've seen it lately. and just can't make it over to rainbow that often.

 

jo Sep 13, 2007 11:20 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 We have tofu maybe once a week, sometimes fairly plain, sometimes fried in herbs. We don't usually marinate it as I'm supposed to be careful with salt. It is very nice fried with a full breakfast. One of my email friends who works for the Vegan Society eats tofu every day and looks extremely healthy on it.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:06 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

I happen to adore tofu, and eat it plain all the time....

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

 

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I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

you said Soy products

tofu is a soy product...

soy doesn't have to mean sauce

tofu is just ground up soybeans pressed and coagulated basically......

Ron Sep 13, 2007 5:29 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

well she started it... LOL The reference was to soy products (i.e. soy milk, soy sauce).Hey I'm only defending myself (mumbles incoherently) , Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:>> Hey Ron, cut that crap out will you, name calling aint big or clever, a bit like your understanding of vegan food . lots of salt & sugar in tofu? do you even know whats in tofu?> > Peter H > > > > > > Ron <ron.zzxx> > Thursday, 13 September, 2007 8:40:38 PM> Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > I'm sorry but you're about two sandwiches short of a picknick aren't> you? If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!> > @gro ups.com, "jo" <jo.heartwork@ ...> wrote:> >> > What makes you think they add lots of sugar and salt to tofu? or is it> > different in your country. Admittedly you can marinate tofu with> various> > flavours, but then most people do that with meat and fish as well -> so no> > advantage having meat, is there.> > > > Jo> > > > -> > "Ron" <ron.zzxx@ .>> > <@gro ups.com>> > Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:14 PM> > Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > > > > > > Could be.. as one could say such in opposition to anything. I never> > > liked soy products anyway.. anything they have to flavor to get you> > > to like it.. tons of sugar and or salt.. you should question.. our> > > taste buds are important too. I'm sure some like the taste of> > > unflavored soy products though and that may mean they agree with you??> >> > > > > > ________ > Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit For Good http://uk.promotions./forgood/environment.html>

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

What does this reply have to do with the subject?

 

Tofu does not have any sugar added, and only a little salt.

 

Jo

 

-

" Ron " <ron.zzxx

 

Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:40 PM

Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're interested

 

 

> I'm sorry but you're about two sandwiches short of a picknick aren't

> you? If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!

>

> , " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

> >

> > What makes you think they add lots of sugar and salt to tofu? or is it

> > different in your country. Admittedly you can marinate tofu with

> various

> > flavours, but then most people do that with meat and fish as well -

> so no

> > advantage having meat, is there.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > -

> > " Ron " <ron.zzxx

> >

> > Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:14 PM

> > Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're interested

> >

> >

> > > Could be.. as one could say such in opposition to anything. I never

> > > liked soy products anyway.. anything they have to flavor to get you

> > > to like it.. tons of sugar and or salt.. you should question.. our

> > > taste buds are important too. I'm sure some like the taste of

> > > unflavored soy products though and that may mean they agree with you??

> >

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]



Hi Peter

 

It is more expensive than the basic tofu, but nice for a treat.

 

Jo

 

-

Peter VV

Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:35 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

The only braised tofu I have seen comes ina can in the health food shops. It costs 2 quid a small tin, so needless to say I havent tried it yet!

I only eat tofu/beancurd about 1 or twice a fortnight from the chinese takeaway.

 

The Valley Vegan...............

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Thursday, 13 September, 2007 7:47:14 PMRe: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

rebecca is really into some braised tofu's she purchases on a regular basis

i tend to like em plain and flavor em up meself

tis ok, there's a really good tofu we pruchase at the farmers market....

the only drawback is it literally has a shelf life of 2, maybe 3 days at the most...

generally we purchase WildWood brand made up in San Rafael

 

jo Sep 13, 2007 11:29 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 We usually get the basic tofu, although Peter had a braised tofu once which was very tasty, and a different texture. It's a shame about your favourite.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:25 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

we prolly have tofu 3 times a week..maybe more on certain weeks

i'll often eat it straight out of the package while cooking with it

sadly, my fave tasting tofu, small planet, is harder to find around here the last year. i think Rainbow is the only place i've seen it lately. and just can't make it over to rainbow that often.

 

jo Sep 13, 2007 11:20 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 We have tofu maybe once a week, sometimes fairly plain, sometimes fried in herbs. We don't usually marinate it as I'm supposed to be careful with salt. It is very nice fried with a full breakfast. One of my email friends who works for the Vegan Society eats tofu every day and looks extremely healthy on it.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:06 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

I happen to adore tofu, and eat it plain all the time....

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

 

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My favourites are the chicken-style pieces, but there are other really good ones too - like the roasts. Frys also do very good analogues, especially their nuggets.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:47 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

there are a few brands here, wrapped in oh so environmentally sound plastic.

i forget which one rebecca likes...maybe its wildwood...

*shrug*

i know it when i see it...

i liked the redwood tofu's and analogs a lot over on your side of the pond

Peter VV Sep 13, 2007 4:35 PM Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only braised tofu I have seen comes ina can in the health food shops. It costs 2 quid a small tin, so needless to say I havent tried it yet!

I only eat tofu/beancurd about 1 or twice a fortnight from the chinese takeaway.

 

The Valley Vegan...............

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Thursday, 13 September, 2007 7:47:14 PMRe: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

rebecca is really into some braised tofu's she purchases on a regular basis

i tend to like em plain and flavor em up meself

tis ok, there's a really good tofu we pruchase at the farmers market....

the only drawback is it literally has a shelf life of 2, maybe 3 days at the most...

generally we purchase WildWood brand made up in San Rafael

 

jo Sep 13, 2007 11:29 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 We usually get the basic tofu, although Peter had a braised tofu once which was very tasty, and a different texture. It's a shame about your favourite.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:25 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

we prolly have tofu 3 times a week..maybe more on certain weeks

i'll often eat it straight out of the package while cooking with it

sadly, my fave tasting tofu, small planet, is harder to find around here the last year. i think Rainbow is the only place i've seen it lately. and just can't make it over to rainbow that often.

 

jo Sep 13, 2007 11:20 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 We have tofu maybe once a week, sometimes fairly plain, sometimes fried in herbs. We don't usually marinate it as I'm supposed to be careful with salt. It is very nice fried with a full breakfast. One of my email friends who works for the Vegan Society eats tofu every day and looks extremely healthy on it.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:06 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

I happen to adore tofu, and eat it plain all the time....

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

 

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I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

I was referring to SOY PRODUCTS. like they have to add sugar to soy

milk or not many would buy it, salt to soy sauce.. etc. Just saying

in general I'm sure most people would find a soy product repulsive so

they mask it except tofu I guess. For instance I like many type of

beans...... I like black beans but I's don't take to no soybeans..

uhg.

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

>

> What does this reply have to do with the subject?

>

> Tofu does not have any sugar added, and only a little salt.

>

> Jo

>

> -

> " Ron " <ron.zzxx

>

> Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:40 PM

> Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're

interested

>

>

> > I'm sorry but you're about two sandwiches short of a picknick

aren't

> > you? If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!

> >

> > , " jo " <jo.heartwork@> wrote:

> > >

> > > What makes you think they add lots of sugar and salt to tofu?

or is it

> > > different in your country. Admittedly you can marinate tofu

with

> > various

> > > flavours, but then most people do that with meat and fish as

well -

> > so no

> > > advantage having meat, is there.

> > >

> > > Jo

> > >

> > > -

> > > " Ron " <ron.zzxx@>

> > >

> > > Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:14 PM

> > > Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're

interested

> > >

> > >

> > > > Could be.. as one could say such in opposition to anything. I

never

> > > > liked soy products anyway.. anything they have to flavor to

get you

> > > > to like it.. tons of sugar and or salt.. you should

question.. our

> > > > taste buds are important too. I'm sure some like the taste of

> > > > unflavored soy products though and that may mean they agree

with you??

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

 

> >

[Guest guest]

mellow out there big guy

come on, breathe with me...

lets not get all agro.....

ok..so, have you ever had soybeans? besides in processed foods?

edamame is quite tasty, imo...

and, when you said soy product, my immediate thought was "tofu", soy sauce didn't even enter into my thoughts until you mentioned it

 

soy doesn't have to immediately equal some processed food...

as for soy milk...i think the one i occassionaly drink has evaporated cane juice...not exactly the evil rearing head of "sugar!"

*grabs spear and shield to ward it off...*

 

Ron Sep 13, 2007 6:51 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

I was referring to SOY PRODUCTS. like they have to add sugar to soy milk or not many would buy it, salt to soy sauce.. etc. Just saying in general I'm sure most people would find a soy product repulsive so they mask it except tofu I guess. For instance I like many type of beans...... I like black beans but I's don't take to no soybeans.. uhg. , "jo" <jo.heartwork wrote:>> What does this reply have to do with the subject?> > Tofu does not have any sugar added, and only a little salt.> > Jo> > -> "Ron" <ron.zzxx> > Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:40 PM> Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > > > I'm sorry but you're about two sandwiches short of a picknick aren't> > you? If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!> >> > , "jo" <jo.heartwork@> wrote:> > >> > > What makes you think they add lots of sugar and salt to tofu? or is it> > > different in your country. Admittedly you can marinate tofu with> > various> > > flavours, but then most people do that with meat and fish as well -> > so no> > > advantage having meat, is there.> > >> > > Jo> > >> > > -> > > "Ron" <ron.zzxx@>> > > > > > Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:14 PM> > > Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > >> > >> > > > Could be.. as one could say such in opposition to anything. I never> > > > liked soy products anyway.. anything they have to flavor to get you> > > > to like it.. tons of sugar and or salt.. you should question.. our> > > > taste buds are important too. I'm sure some like the taste of> > > > unflavored soy products though and that may mean they agree with you??> > >> >> >> >> >> > To send an email to - > >

[Guest guest]

actually I never really liked soy and I tried many such forms but after

reading er4yt which recommends soy for type O's as a dairy alternative

I began to incorporate said products into my diet.. never exactly

liking them.. dumb, I know.. then I was told by someone about the

estrogen in soy and I started researching and came across some

opposition to soy that I embraced in a good bye good ridance relief.

 

Did you know the ancient nomadic warriors of the asian steppes (blood

type B's) gained superiority in battle by drinking the blood of their

horses as they rode.

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone

 

OK - firstly, an apology for letting this through - I've been away,

and hadn't realised that the main aim of this person seems to be to

cause upset on the list! However, having done that, would like to

reply anyway...

 

> Did you know the ancient nomadic warriors of the asian steppes (blood

> type B's) gained superiority in battle by drinking the blood of their

> horses as they rode.

 

What complete nonsense. They may possibly have drunk the blood of

their horses in an attempt to frighten their enemies - tactics to

frighten enemies has always been common place. However, what gave the

nomadic warriors their superiority were their battle tactics - tactics

which were adopted by people like Napoleon, and were used regularly

until the invention of more powerful weapons in the early 20th century

by just about everyone.

 

Of course, the historian in me would like to know exactly what the

sources are that detail this blood drinking... and what the sources

are for the blood types of asian warriors (not to mention how on earth

they could all have the same blood type!!!!)

 

My suspicion is that this is all some urban myth...

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

Hi Peter

 

Welcome back :-)

 

BB

Jo

 

-

" Peter " <metalscarab

 

Friday, September 14, 2007 9:27 AM

Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're interested

 

 

> Hi everyone

>

> OK - firstly, an apology for letting this through - I've been away,

> and hadn't realised that the main aim of this person seems to be to

> cause upset on the list! However, having done that, would like to

> reply anyway...

>

> > Did you know the ancient nomadic warriors of the asian steppes (blood

> > type B's) gained superiority in battle by drinking the blood of their

> > horses as they rode.

>

> What complete nonsense. They may possibly have drunk the blood of

> their horses in an attempt to frighten their enemies - tactics to

> frighten enemies has always been common place. However, what gave the

> nomadic warriors their superiority were their battle tactics - tactics

> which were adopted by people like Napoleon, and were used regularly

> until the invention of more powerful weapons in the early 20th century

> by just about everyone.

>

> Of course, the historian in me would like to know exactly what the

> sources are that detail this blood drinking... and what the sources

> are for the blood types of asian warriors (not to mention how on earth

> they could all have the same blood type!!!!)

>

> My suspicion is that this is all some urban myth...

>

> BB

> Peter

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

they gained superiority by having innovative battle techniques which stunned thier foes...

not a whole heck of a lot different then any "conquering" army, be it the german blitzkreig in WWII, the spanish in the americas, the arabs in the 8th century, or the mongols in the 13th

the original steppe horsemen, Scythians and Hyksos (sic?), and the rest of the indo-europeans of that time, blew out of the steppes on horses...scaring the bejeebers out of everyone..hence greek myths of centaurs...

the egyptians collpased when the hyksos came, until they themselves learned to ride horses and develop chariots..

when the huns came, and later the mongols, their battle tactics at the time were pretty revoltuionary

very fluid, and in the mongols case, a well developed tactic of feints and fake retreats, leading their foes into traps and envelopments...

these tactics failed when their foes realized the mongols (or whomevers) weakenesses...such as when Baibars trapped them in a canyon

etc and so forth...

Ron Sep 13, 2007 7:52 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

actually I never really liked soy and I tried many such forms but after reading er4yt which recommends soy for type O's as a dairy alternative I began to incorporate said products into my diet.. never exactly liking them.. dumb, I know.. then I was told by someone about the estrogen in soy and I started researching and came across some opposition to soy that I embraced in a good bye good ridance relief.Did you know the ancient nomadic warriors of the asian steppes (blood type B's) gained superiority in battle by drinking the blood of their horses as they rode.

 

 

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

what peter said

i read somewhere, that many central asians are blood type B..

but..begs the question..where the heck did mine come from then?

besides being 100% fraggle....my background is 75% Sicilian...so, north african, greek, italian maybe...but...central asian?

i do have 25% central european ancenstry..but, that one lil genome would have to do one heck of dance to somehow work its way down!

eh..wotever

i really don't care

hee hee

Peter Sep 14, 2007 4:27 AM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

Hi everyoneOK - firstly, an apology for letting this through - I've been away,and hadn't realised that the main aim of this person seems to be tocause upset on the list! However, having done that, would like toreply anyway...> Did you know the ancient nomadic warriors of the asian steppes (blood > type B's) gained superiority in battle by drinking the blood of their > horses as they rode.What complete nonsense. They may possibly have drunk the blood oftheir horses in an attempt to frighten their enemies - tactics tofrighten enemies has always been common place. However, what gave thenomadic warriors their superiority were their battle tactics - tacticswhich were adopted by people like Napoleon, and were used regularlyuntil the invention of more powerful weapons in the early 20th centuryby just about everyone.Of course, the historian in me would like to know exactly what thesources are that detail this blood drinking... and what the sourcesare for the blood types of asian warriors (not to mention how on earththey could all have the same blood type!!!!)My suspicion is that this is all some urban myth...BBPeter

 

 

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

Now I know that they were masters in the saddle, but tapping viens while riding into battle?, hang on riens in mouth......check, sword in right hand....check............hide shield in other.................check....................shit run out of hands............

Hang on fellow barbarian hordes, would you mind awfully if we just take a break while I tap a vien on my horse, say a quart or two? wont be two ticks old boy. So sorry to hold up the battle, would you mind holding my sword a second.....................oh shit..................

 

 

The Valley Vegan............

Peter H

 

 

Ron <ron.zzxx Sent: Friday, 14 September, 2007 12:52:28 AM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

actually I never really liked soy and I tried many such forms but after reading er4yt which recommends soy for type O's as a dairy alternative I began to incorporate said products into my diet.. never exactly liking them.. dumb, I know.. then I was told by someone about the estrogen in soy and I started researching and came across some opposition to soy that I embraced in a good bye good ridance relief.Did you know the ancient nomadic warriors of the asian steppes (blood type B's) gained superiority in battle by drinking the blood of their horses as they rode.

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You obviously havent seen the range of soy milk available, in most supermarkets its availble sweetened or unsweetened. The one I buy is made with non GM soya beans. The average moo juice you buy is full of puss particles and steroids etc.

You can actually buy soya beans frozen in my local supermarket, they are like small broad beans, a lovely green colour.

I would imagine that most meat has little flavour unless you added some sort of seasoning?

And also moo juice, if you have it in a pudding or milk shake etc, its probably having sugar in there somewhere?

 

The Valley Vegan...........

Peter H

 

 

Ron <ron.zzxx Sent: Thursday, 13 September, 2007 11:51:07 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

I was referring to SOY PRODUCTS. like they have to add sugar to soy milk or not many would buy it, salt to soy sauce.. etc. Just saying in general I'm sure most people would find a soy product repulsive so they mask it except tofu I guess. For instance I like many type of beans...... I like black beans but I's don't take to no soybeans.. uhg.@gro ups.com, "jo" <jo.heartwork@ ...> wrote:>> What does this reply have to do with the subject?> > Tofu does not have any sugar added, and only a little salt.> > Jo> > -> "Ron" <ron.zzxx@.. .>> <@gro ups.com>> Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:40 PM>

Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > > > I'm sorry but you're about two sandwiches short of a picknick aren't> > you? If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch!> >> > @gro ups.com, "jo" <jo.heartwork@ > wrote:> > >> > > What makes you think they add lots of sugar and salt to tofu? or is it> > > different in your country. Admittedly you can marinate tofu with> > various> > > flavours, but then most people do that with meat and fish as well -> > so no> > > advantage having meat, is there.> > >> > > Jo> > >> > > -> > > "Ron" <ron.zzxx@>>

> > <@gro ups.com>> > > Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:14 PM> > > Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > >> > >> > > > Could be.. as one could say such in opposition to anything. I never> > > > liked soy products anyway.. anything they have to flavor to get you> > > > to like it.. tons of sugar and or salt.. you should question.. our> > > > taste buds are important too. I'm sure some like the taste of> > > > unflavored soy products though and that may mean they agree with you??> > >> >> >> >> >> > To send an email to -> >

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uggggg, how can you? chicken flesh impressionists?

sorry, I cannot remove myself from the comparison.

I will shut up now.

Sorry , carry on.

hides in corner, stroking a block of tofu...........grinning manically............

 

The Valley Vegan.............

Peter H

 

 

jo <jo.heartwork Sent: Thursday, 13 September, 2007 11:29:20 PMRe: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 My favourites are the chicken-style pieces, but there are other really good ones too - like the roasts. Frys also do very good analogues, especially their nuggets.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:47 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

there are a few brands here, wrapped in oh so environmentally sound plastic.

i forget which one rebecca likes...maybe its wildwood...

*shrug*

i know it when i see it...

i liked the redwood tofu's and analogs a lot over on your side of the pond

Peter VV Sep 13, 2007 4:35 PM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only braised tofu I have seen comes ina can in the health food shops. It costs 2 quid a small tin, so needless to say I havent tried it yet!

I only eat tofu/beancurd about 1 or twice a fortnight from the chinese takeaway.

 

The Valley Vegan....... ........

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comThursday, 13 September, 2007 7:47:14 PMRe: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

rebecca is really into some braised tofu's she purchases on a regular basis

i tend to like em plain and flavor em up meself

tis ok, there's a really good tofu we pruchase at the farmers market....

the only drawback is it literally has a shelf life of 2, maybe 3 days at the most...

generally we purchase WildWood brand made up in San Rafael

 

jo Sep 13, 2007 11:29 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 We usually get the basic tofu, although Peter had a braised tofu once which was very tasty, and a different texture. It's a shame about your favourite.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:25 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

we prolly have tofu 3 times a week..maybe more on certain weeks

i'll often eat it straight out of the package while cooking with it

sadly, my fave tasting tofu, small planet, is harder to find around here the last year. i think Rainbow is the only place i've seen it lately. and just can't make it over to rainbow that often.

 

jo Sep 13, 2007 11:20 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 We have tofu maybe once a week, sometimes fairly plain, sometimes fried in herbs. We don't usually marinate it as I'm supposed to be careful with salt. It is very nice fried with a full breakfast. One of my email friends who works for the Vegan Society eats tofu every day and looks extremely healthy on it.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:06 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

I happen to adore tofu, and eat it plain all the time....

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

 

Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now. I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

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Its cheaper to buy it ready cooked in a takeaway from my local chinese than to buy a tin and all the other ingredients.........

 

Maybe one day..........

 

The Valley Vegan.................

Peter H

 

 

jo <jo.heartwork Sent: Thursday, 13 September, 2007 11:23:26 PMRe: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 Hi Peter

 

It is more expensive than the basic tofu, but nice for a treat.

 

Jo

 

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:35 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

The only braised tofu I have seen comes ina can in the health food shops. It costs 2 quid a small tin, so needless to say I havent tried it yet!

I only eat tofu/beancurd about 1 or twice a fortnight from the chinese takeaway.

 

The Valley Vegan....... ........

Peter H

 

 

fraggle <EBbrewpunx@earthlin k.net>@gro ups.comThursday, 13 September, 2007 7:47:14 PMRe: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

rebecca is really into some braised tofu's she purchases on a regular basis

i tend to like em plain and flavor em up meself

tis ok, there's a really good tofu we pruchase at the farmers market....

the only drawback is it literally has a shelf life of 2, maybe 3 days at the most...

generally we purchase WildWood brand made up in San Rafael

 

jo Sep 13, 2007 11:29 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 We usually get the basic tofu, although Peter had a braised tofu once which was very tasty, and a different texture. It's a shame about your favourite.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:25 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

we prolly have tofu 3 times a week..maybe more on certain weeks

i'll often eat it straight out of the package while cooking with it

sadly, my fave tasting tofu, small planet, is harder to find around here the last year. i think Rainbow is the only place i've seen it lately. and just can't make it over to rainbow that often.

 

jo Sep 13, 2007 11:20 AM @gro ups.com Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 We have tofu maybe once a week, sometimes fairly plain, sometimes fried in herbs. We don't usually marinate it as I'm supposed to be careful with salt. It is very nice fried with a full breakfast. One of my email friends who works for the Vegan Society eats tofu every day and looks extremely healthy on it.

 

Jo

 

 

-

fraggle

@gro ups.com

Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:06 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

I happen to adore tofu, and eat it plain all the time....

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

 

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LOL- I reckon the Monty Python team should have made a film like that :-)

 

Jo

 

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Peter VV

Friday, September 14, 2007 8:59 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

Now I know that they were masters in the saddle, but tapping viens while riding into battle?, hang on riens in mouth......check, sword in right hand....check............hide shield in other.................check....................shit run out of hands............

Hang on fellow barbarian hordes, would you mind awfully if we just take a break while I tap a vien on my horse, say a quart or two? wont be two ticks old boy. So sorry to hold up the battle, would you mind holding my sword a second.....................oh shit..................

 

 

The Valley Vegan............

Peter H

 

 

Ron <ron.zzxx Sent: Friday, 14 September, 2007 12:52:28 AM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

actually I never really liked soy and I tried many such forms but after reading er4yt which recommends soy for type O's as a dairy alternative I began to incorporate said products into my diet.. never exactly liking them.. dumb, I know.. then I was told by someone about the estrogen in soy and I started researching and came across some opposition to soy that I embraced in a good bye good ridance relief.Did you know the ancient nomadic warriors of the asian steppes (blood type B's) gained superiority in battle by drinking the blood of their horses as they rode.

 

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You can just imagine all the barbarian hoardes on anaemic, pale knackered horses can you!

The Valley Vegan...................

Peter H

 

 

jo <jo.heartwork Sent: Friday, 14 September, 2007 11:35:09 PMRe: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

LOL- I reckon the Monty Python team should have made a film like that :-)

 

Jo

 

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Friday, September 14, 2007 8:59 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

Now I know that they were masters in the saddle, but tapping viens while riding into battle?, hang on riens in mouth......check, sword in right hand....check. ......... ..hide shield in other....... ......... .check... ......... ........shit run out of hands....... .....

Hang on fellow barbarian hordes, would you mind awfully if we just take a break while I tap a vien on my horse, say a quart or two? wont be two ticks old boy. So sorry to hold up the battle, would you mind holding my sword a second...... ......... ......oh shit........ ......... .

 

 

The Valley Vegan....... .....

Peter H

 

 

Ron <ron.zzxx >@gro ups.comFriday, 14 September, 2007 12:52:28 AM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

actually I never really liked soy and I tried many such forms but after reading er4yt which recommends soy for type O's as a dairy alternative I began to incorporate said products into my diet.. never exactly liking them.. dumb, I know.. then I was told by someone about the estrogen in soy and I started researching and came across some opposition to soy that I embraced in a good bye good ridance relief.Did you know the ancient nomadic warriors of the asian steppes (blood type B's) gained superiority in battle by drinking the blood of their horses as they rode.

 

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I can indeed!

 

Jo

 

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Peter VV

Saturday, September 15, 2007 2:07 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

You can just imagine all the barbarian hoardes on anaemic, pale knackered horses can you!

The Valley Vegan...................

Peter H

 

 

jo <jo.heartwork Sent: Friday, 14 September, 2007 11:35:09 PMRe: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

LOL- I reckon the Monty Python team should have made a film like that :-)

 

Jo

 

-

Peter VV

@gro ups.com

Friday, September 14, 2007 8:59 PM

Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

Now I know that they were masters in the saddle, but tapping viens while riding into battle?, hang on riens in mouth......check, sword in right hand....check. ......... ..hide shield in other....... ......... .check... ......... ........shit run out of hands....... .....

Hang on fellow barbarian hordes, would you mind awfully if we just take a break while I tap a vien on my horse, say a quart or two? wont be two ticks old boy. So sorry to hold up the battle, would you mind holding my sword a second...... ......... ......oh shit........ ......... .

 

 

The Valley Vegan....... .....

Peter H

 

 

Ron <ron.zzxx >@gro ups.comFriday, 14 September, 2007 12:52:28 AM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

actually I never really liked soy and I tried many such forms but after reading er4yt which recommends soy for type O's as a dairy alternative I began to incorporate said products into my diet.. never exactly liking them.. dumb, I know.. then I was told by someone about the estrogen in soy and I started researching and came across some opposition to soy that I embraced in a good bye good ridance relief.Did you know the ancient nomadic warriors of the asian steppes (blood type B's) gained superiority in battle by drinking the blood of their horses as they rode.

 

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I got waaaay behind on the messages I think, so I apologize if this

has been answered. I was wondering if " braised " tofu is similar

to " baked " tofu? I keep buying it to use in recipes, but as it's so

good plain I've yet to cook with it. LOL I really liked plain

nigari tofu, so of course my store replaced it with blocks of real

cheese. Sigh... I did catch the message about salt, and the only

salt in the ones I have here seem to be a smidge of sea salt in the

soysauce that was used.

 

 

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

>

> We usually get the basic tofu, although Peter had a braised tofu

once which was very tasty, and a different texture. It's a shame

about your favourite.

>

> Jo

>

> -

> fraggle

>

> Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:25 PM

> Re: Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're

interested

>

>

> we prolly have tofu 3 times a week..maybe more on certain weeks

>

> i'll often eat it straight out of the package while cooking with

it

>

> sadly, my fave tasting tofu, small planet, is harder to find

around here the last year. i think Rainbow is the only place i've

seen it lately. and just can't make it over to rainbow that often.

> jo

> Sep 13, 2007 11:20 AM

>

> Re: Re: more on " man the hunted " if

you're interested

>

> 

>

> We have tofu maybe once a week, sometimes fairly plain,

sometimes fried in herbs. We don't usually marinate it as I'm

supposed to be careful with salt. It is very nice fried with a full

breakfast. One of my email friends who works for the Vegan Society

eats tofu every day and looks extremely healthy on it.

>

> Jo

>

> -

> fraggle

>

> Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:06 PM

> Re: Re: more on " man the hunted " if

you're interested

>

>

> I happen to adore tofu, and eat it plain all the time....

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

> Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

> Global warming, radio-active sites

> Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

> Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

> Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

> Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

> Outside of California, it's foreign policy

> I don't want changes, I have no reactions

> Your dilemmas are my distractions

> I never looked around, never second-guessed

> Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

> And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

> All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

> I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

> I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

> I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

> I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

> I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

> I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

>

[Guest guest]

similiar, but not the same

technically, you braise in a skillet...

and baking is well..baking

tofuchick24 Sep 16, 2007 3:06 AM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

I got waaaay behind on the messages I think, so I apologize if this has been answered. I was wondering if "braised" tofu is similar to "baked" tofu? I keep buying it to use in recipes, but as it's so good plain I've yet to cook with it. LOL I really liked plain nigari tofu, so of course my store replaced it with blocks of real cheese. Sigh... I did catch the message about salt, and the only salt in the ones I have here seem to be a smidge of sea salt in the soysauce that was used. , "jo" <jo.heartwork wrote:>> We usually get the basic tofu, although Peter had a braised tofu once which was very tasty, and a different texture. It's a shame about your favourite.> > Jo> > - > fraggle > > Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:25 PM> Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > > we prolly have tofu 3 times a week..maybe more on certain weeks> > i'll often eat it straight out of the package while cooking with it> > sadly, my fave tasting tofu, small planet, is harder to find around here the last year. i think Rainbow is the only place i've seen it lately. and just can't make it over to rainbow that often.> > > > > > > > jo > Sep 13, 2007 11:20 AM > > Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested > >  > > We have tofu maybe once a week, sometimes fairly plain, sometimes fried in herbs. We don't usually marinate it as I'm supposed to be careful with salt. It is very nice fried with a full breakfast. One of my email friends who works for the Vegan Society eats tofu every day and looks extremely healthy on it.> > Jo> > - > fraggle > > Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:06 PM> Re: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > > I happen to adore tofu, and eat it plain all the time....> > > > > > > I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small> Never thought about the problems of this planet at all> Global warming, radio-active sites> Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!> Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?> Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?> Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea> Outside of California, it's foreign policy> I don't want changes, I have no reactions> Your dilemmas are my distractions> I never looked around, never second-guessed> Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed> And now I can't sleep from years of apathy> All because I read a little Noam Chomsky> I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation> I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization> I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth> I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth> I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces> I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses>

 

 

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

OK, thanks! I'm still trying to figure so many things out. I

have all these great plans for tofu, but I do like it raw, at least the

firmer ones, so often the recipe ends up without the tofu...I already

ate it. LOL

 

Thanks for that tofu site, Blake, I take it the Greek scramble uses the

fresh type? Want to make sure. LOL Would Kalamata olives work

instead of green? I like green olives but the only ones I'm finding

here, oddly, seem to have lactic acid, and don't tell the source.