more on man the hunted if you're interested

[Guest guest]

http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/hunter_gatherer.htm

[Guest guest]

what bugs me most nowadays is the various "early man" shows you see on like Discovery or Science channels

big push for austrolapithocines hunting and catching animals

ok....go look at yourself in the mirror...

now picture yourself a foot shorter or more...

now picture trying to chase anything down to kill it, with yer little hands, no canines, etc...

now try picture trying to scare a saber tooth cat off its kill

none of it works...

to me anyways...

Blake Wilson Sep 6, 2007 10:28 AM more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 

http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/hunter_gatherer.htm

 

 

 

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

<< big push for austrolapithocines hunting and catching animals >> Must you use big words? << now picture trying to chase anything down to kill it, with yer little hands, no canines, etc... >> You've never seen me in action. Just kidding -- I'm a petite, little thing. Tracyfraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: what bugs me most nowadays is the

various "early man" shows you see on like Discovery or Science channels big push for austrolapithocines hunting and catching animals ok....go look at yourself in the mirror... now picture yourself a foot shorter or more... now picture trying to chase anything down to kill it, with yer little hands, no canines, etc... now try picture trying to scare a saber tooth cat off its kill none of it works... to me anyways... Blake Wilson Sep 6, 2007 10:28 AM more on "man the hunted" if you're interested http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/hunter_gatherer.htm I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small Never thought about the problems of this planet at all Global warming, radio-active sites Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No! Why think of all the bad things when life is so good? Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'? Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea Outside of California, it's foreign policy I don't want changes, I have no reactions Your dilemmas are my distractions I never looked around, never second-guessed Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed And now I can't sleep from years of apathy All because I read a little Noam Chomsky I'm eating

vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.

[Guest guest]

Nice!

 

I like that image...reminds me of all the cats and dogs chasing

down cows and sheep (not).

 

Yes, they are carnivores and omnivores (respectively), but no,

their " natural " diet is not ungulates many times their

size.

 

 

 

At 3:37 PM -0400 9/6/07, fraggle wrote:

what bugs me most nowadays is the various " early man "

shows you see on like Discovery or Science channels

 

big push for austrolapithocines hunting and catching animals

 

ok....go look at yourself in the mirror...

 

now picture yourself a foot shorter or more...

 

now picture trying to chase anything down to kill it, with yer

little hands, no canines, etc...

 

now try picture trying to scare a saber tooth cat off its

kill

 

none of it works...

 

to me anyways...

[Guest guest]

why do i have this mental picture of old terrytunes or MGM cartoons...?

hahahahahahah

and as for big words...i get paid by the letter....

Peter, i'd like my last check was a tad short btw

 

"Tracy H." Sep 6, 2007 1:04 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 

<< big push for austrolapithocines hunting and catching animals >>

 

Must you use big words?

 

<< now picture trying to chase anything down to kill it, with yer little hands, no canines, etc... >>

 

You've never seen me in action.

 

Just kidding -- I'm a petite, little thing.

 

Tracyfraggle <EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

 

 

 

what bugs me most nowadays is the various "early man" shows you see on like Discovery or Science channels

big push for austrolapithocines hunting and catching animals

ok....go look at yourself in the mirror...

now picture yourself a foot shorter or more...

now picture trying to chase anything down to kill it, with yer little hands, no canines, etc...

now try picture trying to scare a saber tooth cat off its kill

none of it works...

to me anyways...

Blake Wilson Sep 6, 2007 10:28 AM more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

 

http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/hunter_gatherer.htm

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small Never thought about the problems of this planet at all Global warming, radio-active sites Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No! Why think of all the bad things when life is so good? Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'? Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea Outside of California, it's foreign policy I don't want changes, I have no reactions Your dilemmas are my distractions I never looked around, never second-guessed Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed And now I can't sleep from years of apathy All because I read a little Noam Chomsky I'm eating

vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

 

 

 

Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when.

 

 

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

insects have more protein for size than animal flesh, seen that on

that new show " man vs. wild "

[Guest guest]

and ..... ?

 

Jo

 

, " Ron " <ron.zzxx wrote:

>

> insects have more protein for size than animal flesh, seen that on

> that new show " man vs. wild "

>

[Guest guest]

p.s. insects are animals. Do you think they should be eaten?

 

Jo

 

, " Ron " <ron.zzxx wrote:

>

> insects have more protein for size than animal flesh, seen that on

> that new show " man vs. wild "

>

[Guest guest]

actually, that show really bugs me...

besides the fact he goes around and relishes killing things, his "survival" techniques leave a lot to be desired

in one show, he jumped into a raging river to float downstream...and then we got on land, he curled up under a rock in his soaking wet clothes to go to sleep

ummm...#1 rule right there..never relax/rest when you are in wet clothes when you are lost.. hypothermia.....

good way to get yourself killed

Ron Sep 10, 2007 4:10 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

insects have more protein for size than animal flesh, seen that on that new show "man vs. wild"

 

 

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

[[p.s. insects are animals. Do you think they should be eaten?

]]

 

No doubt about it, insects are animals, but we all eat them willy nilly.

There is a certain percentage of meal worms and the like allowed in foods

like oatmeal--there is no way to avoid it. I know that isn't the same thing

as raising them and deliberately eating them, but we ought to admit we do

eat some.

[Guest guest]

LOL.. they should do a vegan episode of " man vs. wild " .. (and I wonder

what blood type is the " man " ?)

 

or a survival show where vegans are on an island maybe even competing

with non-vegans..?

[Guest guest]

It was the perception I was interested in.

 

Jo

 

-

" Oom Yaaqub " <oomyaaqub

 

Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:50 PM

RE: Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're interested

 

 

> [[p.s. insects are animals. Do you think they should be eaten?

> ]]

>

> No doubt about it, insects are animals, but we all eat them willy nilly.

> There is a certain percentage of meal worms and the like allowed in foods

> like oatmeal--there is no way to avoid it. I know that isn't the same

thing

> as raising them and deliberately eating them, but we ought to admit we do

> eat some.

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

They have similar programmes here I believe. Tony Blackburn, who is

vegetarian, was on one, and he didn't succumb to eating any animals, whereas

Uri Geller did, of course.

 

As the blood type diet has been discredited there doesn't seem much point in

keep mentioning it.

 

Jo

 

-

" Ron " <ron.zzxx

 

Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:11 PM

Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're interested

 

 

> LOL.. they should do a vegan episode of " man vs. wild " .. (and I wonder

> what blood type is the " man " ?)

>

> or a survival show where vegans are on an island maybe even competing

> with non-vegans..?

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

i am not defending er4yt but who says it has been discredited, by

rhetoric and demagoguery? by the vegan mob? have you read it? it

seems very scientific to me.

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

>

> They have similar programmes here I believe. Tony Blackburn, who is

> vegetarian, was on one, and he didn't succumb to eating any

animals, whereas

> Uri Geller did, of course.

>

> As the blood type diet has been discredited there doesn't seem much

point in

> keep mentioning it.

>

> Jo

>

> -

> " Ron " <ron.zzxx

>

> Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:11 PM

> Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're

interested

>

>

> > LOL.. they should do a vegan episode of " man vs. wild " .. (and I

wonder

> > what blood type is the " man " ?)

> >

> > or a survival show where vegans are on an island maybe even

competing

> > with non-vegans..?

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

 

> >

[Guest guest]

many insects and animals of course wouldn't think twice about eating

us........oh the hairs we could split on this subject

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

>

> It was the perception I was interested in.

>

> Jo

>

> -

> " Oom Yaaqub " <oomyaaqub

>

> Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:50 PM

> RE: Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're

interested

>

>

> > [[p.s. insects are animals. Do you think they should be eaten?

> > ]]

> >

> > No doubt about it, insects are animals, but we all eat them willy

nilly.

> > There is a certain percentage of meal worms and the like allowed

in foods

> > like oatmeal--there is no way to avoid it. I know that isn't the

same

> thing

> > as raising them and deliberately eating them, but we ought to

admit we do

> > eat some.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

 

> >

[Guest guest]

i've read it

it took me forever..it was in ymy bathroom, and it was ridiculous, imo

sorry to say

just because it LOOKS scientific, doesn't mean it is

he doesn't back up any of his studies, doesn't give results..its a hodge podge.

and there is no basis for any of his theories about blood types, there is no basis for any of his talk about which blood type came first (there were blood types long before humans came on the scene anyways)

i can tell you right off the bat, from what i remember, he said something about O's having more hydrochloric acid production, in the stomach, so they could digest meat better and so on...umm...the stomach and hydrochloric acid don't digest meat. Pepsin does in the intestine. basic biology....

as a matter o fact, too much acid decreases the effectiveness of pepsin

i mean...i could come up with a diet that said "people would blue eyes should eat cranberries because of of the lightness of their eyes and the reflective qualities there of"

Ron Sep 11, 2007 2:30 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

i am not defending er4yt but who says it has been discredited, by rhetoric and demagoguery? by the vegan mob? have you read it? it seems very scientific to me. , "jo" <jo.heartwork wrote:>> They have similar programmes here I believe. Tony Blackburn, who is> vegetarian, was on one, and he didn't succumb to eating any animals, whereas> Uri Geller did, of course.> > As the blood type diet has been discredited there doesn't seem much point in> keep mentioning it.> > Jo> > -> "Ron" <ron.zzxx> > Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:11 PM> Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > > > LOL.. they should do a vegan episode of "man vs. wild".. (and I wonder> > what blood type is the "man"?)> >> > or a survival show where vegans are on an island maybe even competing> > with non-vegans..?> >> >> >> > To send an email to - > >

[Guest guest]

i am not any animal or insect

i am me

i beleive it is wrong to make any other creature suffer or die for me. there is no reason for me to have another creature suffer and/or die purely for taste or fashion.

simple as that

(tho there are a billion more reasons why i'm me and vegan....)

Ron Sep 11, 2007 2:39 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

many insects and animals of course wouldn't think twice about eating us........oh the hairs we could split on this subject , "jo" <jo.heartwork wrote:>> It was the perception I was interested in.> > Jo> > -> "Oom Yaaqub" <oomyaaqub> > Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:50 PM> RE: Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > > > [[p.s. insects are animals. Do you think they should be eaten?> > ]]> >> > No doubt about it, insects are animals, but we all eat them willy nilly.> > There is a certain percentage of meal worms and the like allowed in foods> > like oatmeal--there is no way to avoid it. I know that isn't the same> thing> > as raising them and deliberately eating them, but we ought to admit we do> > eat some.> >> >> >> >> > To send an email to - > >

[Guest guest]

Yes-No all of the above.. we are still dealing in rhetoric, am i

suppose to conclude er4yt is non-sense because you say it is?

For instance you said in " man vs. wild " the guy got out of the river

and slept in his wet clothes like a dummy.. ok I seen that episode and

I remember him taking his clothes off and exercising to raise his body

temperature then lighting a fire.

[Guest guest]

Which vegan mob are you refering to? Presumably we are the vegan mob here.

Do you feel you don't fit in with a vegan group?

 

Jo

 

-

" Ron " <ron.zzxx

 

Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:30 PM

Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're interested

 

 

> i am not defending er4yt but who says it has been discredited, by

> rhetoric and demagoguery? by the vegan mob? have you read it? it

> seems very scientific to me.

>

> , " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

> >

> > They have similar programmes here I believe. Tony Blackburn, who is

> > vegetarian, was on one, and he didn't succumb to eating any

> animals, whereas

> > Uri Geller did, of course.

> >

> > As the blood type diet has been discredited there doesn't seem much

> point in

> > keep mentioning it.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > -

> > " Ron " <ron.zzxx

> >

> > Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:11 PM

> > Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're

> interested

> >

> >

> > > LOL.. they should do a vegan episode of " man vs. wild " .. (and I

> wonder

> > > what blood type is the " man " ?)

> > >

> > > or a survival show where vegans are on an island maybe even

> competing

> > > with non-vegans..?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To send an email to -

>

> > >

[Guest guest]

You might feel we could split hairs, but I don't think I would split them.

 

Jo

 

-

" Ron " <ron.zzxx

 

Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:39 PM

Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're interested

 

 

> many insects and animals of course wouldn't think twice about eating

> us........oh the hairs we could split on this subject

>

> , " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

> >

> > It was the perception I was interested in.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > -

> > " Oom Yaaqub " <oomyaaqub

> >

> > Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:50 PM

> > RE: Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're

> interested

> >

> >

> > > [[p.s. insects are animals. Do you think they should be eaten?

> > > ]]

> > >

> > > No doubt about it, insects are animals, but we all eat them willy

> nilly.

> > > There is a certain percentage of meal worms and the like allowed

> in foods

> > > like oatmeal--there is no way to avoid it. I know that isn't the

> same

> > thing

> > > as raising them and deliberately eating them, but we ought to

> admit we do

> > > eat some.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To send an email to -

>

> > >

[Guest guest]

The vegan mob? I know I've said this before, but I'm gonna say it again. I don't understand why people condemn those who oppose murdering animals. We're living a lifestyle that allows animals to go about their daily lives without interference from people. Shouldn't that be encouraged? Tracyfraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: i've read it it took me forever..it was in ymy bathroom, and it was ridiculous, imo

sorry to say just because it LOOKS scientific, doesn't mean it is he doesn't back up any of his studies, doesn't give results..its a hodge podge. and there is no basis for any of his theories about blood types, there is no basis for any of his talk about which blood type came first (there were blood types long before humans came on the scene anyways) i can tell you right off the bat, from what i remember, he said something about O's having more hydrochloric acid production, in the stomach, so they could digest meat better and so on...umm...the stomach and hydrochloric acid don't digest meat. Pepsin does in the intestine. basic biology.... as a matter o fact, too much acid decreases the effectiveness of pepsin i mean...i could come up with a diet that said "people would blue eyes should eat cranberries because of of the lightness of their eyes and the reflective qualities there of"

Ron Sep 11, 2007 2:30 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested i am not defending er4yt but who says it has been discredited, by rhetoric and demagoguery? by the vegan mob? have you read it? it seems very scientific to me. , "jo" <jo.heartwork wrote:>> They have similar programmes here I believe. Tony Blackburn, who is> vegetarian, was on one, and he didn't succumb to eating any animals, whereas> Uri Geller did, of course.> > As the blood type

diet has been discredited there doesn't seem much point in> keep mentioning it.> > Jo> > -> "Ron" <ron.zzxx> > Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:11 PM> Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested> > > > LOL.. they should do a vegan episode of "man vs. wild".. (and I wonder> > what blood type is the "man"?)> >> > or a survival show where vegans are on an island maybe even competing> > with non-vegans..?> >> >> >> > To send an email to - > >

[Guest guest]

thats a different episode. that was the alaska one

there was one where he went down a river in a canyon, and climbed out, and went to sleep under a rock soaking wet

Ron Sep 11, 2007 2:58 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

Yes-No all of the above.. we are still dealing in rhetoric, am i suppose to conclude er4yt is non-sense because you say it is?For instance you said in "man vs. wild" the guy got out of the river and slept in his wet clothes like a dummy.. ok I seen that episode and I remember him taking his clothes off and exercising to raise his body temperature then lighting a fire.

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

so...don't believe me then...

research it....thats what i did

learn for yourself, look things up, explore, expand, search, question

 

Ron Sep 11, 2007 2:58 PM Re: more on "man the hunted" if you're interested

 

 

 

Yes-No all of the above.. we are still dealing in rhetoric, am i suppose to conclude er4yt is non-sense because you say it is?For instance you said in "man vs. wild" the guy got out of the river and slept in his wet clothes like a dummy.. ok I seen that episode and I remember him taking his clothes off and exercising to raise his body temperature then lighting a fire.

 

I never thought about the universe, it made me feel small

Never thought about the problems of this planet at all

Global warming, radio-active sites

Imperialistic wrongs and animal rights! No!

Why think of all the bad things when life is so good?

Why help with an 'am' when there's always a 'could'?

Let the whales worry about the poisons in the sea

Outside of California, it's foreign policy

I don't want changes, I have no reactions

Your dilemmas are my distractions

I never looked around, never second-guessed

Then I read some Howard Zinn now I'm always depressed

And now I can't sleep from years of apathy

All because I read a little Noam Chomsky

I'm eating vegetation, 'cause of Fast Food Nation

I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes 'cause of globalization

I'm watching Michael Moore expose the awful truth

I'm listening to Public Enemy and Reagan Youth

I see no world peace 'cause of zealous armed forces

I eat no breath-mints 'cause they're from de-hoofed horses

[Guest guest]

" Do you feel you don't fit in with a vegan group? "

 

answer: no, although the computer is quite limiting and misleading to

know what one feels, I am only finding some limited stimulus by this

means not much different than any other group. It is some new

computer induced psychology

that you can find at any site. I don't think diet has anything to do

with it. I think humankind is still very primitive and ready to do

battle at the drop of a hat. I really don't want to fight for the

fight, I truly seek wisdom and good stimulating interaction.

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

>

> Which vegan mob are you refering to? Presumably we are the vegan

mob here.

> Do you feel you don't fit in with a vegan group?

>

> Jo

>

> -

> " Ron " <ron.zzxx

>

> Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:30 PM

> Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're

interested

>

>

> > i am not defending er4yt but who says it has been discredited, by

> > rhetoric and demagoguery? by the vegan mob? have you read it? it

> > seems very scientific to me.

> >

> > , " jo " <jo.heartwork@> wrote:

> > >

> > > They have similar programmes here I believe. Tony Blackburn,

who is

> > > vegetarian, was on one, and he didn't succumb to eating any

> > animals, whereas

> > > Uri Geller did, of course.

> > >

> > > As the blood type diet has been discredited there doesn't seem

much

> > point in

> > > keep mentioning it.

> > >

> > > Jo

> > >

> > > -

> > > " Ron " <ron.zzxx@>

> > >

> > > Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:11 PM

> > > Re: more on " man the hunted " if you're

> > interested

> > >

> > >

> > > > LOL.. they should do a vegan episode of " man vs. wild " .. (and

I

> > wonder

> > > > what blood type is the " man " ?)

> > > >

> > > > or a survival show where vegans are on an island maybe even

> > competing

> > > > with non-vegans..?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > To send an email to -

> >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

good, your penchant for detail restored, I took an assumption. There

are many rivers and much to learn.