Guest guest Report post Posted September 19, 2006 We have a lovely little toad living in the porch. Just lately he must have taken to sitting on the little ledge of the door, because every time I open the door, he falls into the kitchen. We also have loads of tiny baby frogs at present. Colin has to walk around the garden to give them plenty of warning when he is going to mow the lawn. Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 19, 2006 aw cute wish we had toads around here.. supposedly we have the western toad and the spadefoot a tad inland..but i've never seen one in the bay area... fraggle jo Sep 19, 2006 11:12 AM Toad We have a lovely little toad living in the porch. Just lately he must have taken to sitting on the little ledge of the door, because every time I open the door, he falls into the kitchen. We also have loads of tiny baby frogs at present. Colin has to walk around the garden to give them plenty of warning when he is going to mow the lawn. Jo As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. William O. Douglas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 19, 2006 fraggle there are things that you can do to attract them. for example toad houses, http://www.butterfly-gifts.com/toad-houses.html they love to hide in these during the day and come out at night. you can put them underneath a bush or something. you have to watch out that fairies don't move in. I have toads, the only problem is that he/she ate all of the ladybeatles that I had release that day. I did not know this until I actually saw it happen. he was so thrilled at the ladybeetle dinner that he didn't care that I was real close to him, watching him. We give them names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 19, 2006 I havent seen a toad in a garden since I was a little boy. Are they in decline in urban areas? I bet the birds are having a feast in your garden? The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: We have a lovely little toad living in the porch. Just lately he must have taken to sitting on the little ledge of the door, because every time I open the door, he falls into the kitchen. We also have loads of tiny baby frogs at present. Colin has to walk around the garden to give them plenty of warning when he is going to mow the lawn. Jo Peter H Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Mail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 19, 2006 i live in the middle of the city ain't ever seen a toad in oakland poor lil critter will have to travel across a zillion streets to somehow end up in my backyard... concrete jungle >Anouk Sickler <zurumato >Sep 19, 2006 12:13 PM > > Re: Toad > >fraggle > >there are things that you can do to attract them. > >for example toad houses, >http://www.butterfly-gifts.com/toad-houses.html > >they love to hide in these during the day and come out at night. >you can put them underneath a bush or something. >you have to watch out that fairies don't move in. > >I have toads, the only problem is that he/she ate all of the >ladybeatles that I had release that day. > >I did not know this until I actually saw it happen. >he was so thrilled at the ladybeetle dinner that he didn't care >that I was real close to him, watching him. > >We give them names. > > > > > >To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 19, 2006 amphibian populations in general are crashing world wide... canary in the coal mine... peter VV Sep 19, 2006 12:17 PM Re: Toad I havent seen a toad in a garden since I was a little boy. Are they in decline in urban areas? I bet the birds are having a feast in your garden? The Valley Vegan.............jo <jo.heartwork wrote: We have a lovely little toad living in the porch. Just lately he must have taken to sitting on the little ledge of the door, because every time I open the door, he falls into the kitchen. We also have loads of tiny baby frogs at present. Colin has to walk around the garden to give them plenty of warning when he is going to mow the lawn. Jo Peter H Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Mail. As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. William O. Douglas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 I had not realized that oakland was that developed. in the (parrots of san francisco movie) there seem to be some nature left. i have never been there. oh well. I myself have notice the decline in frogs, as you walk around my neighborhood, you can see this chemicaly bubble with lots of irridescent colors, this liquid runs on the sidewalk whenever it rains, and of course it is Roundup, pesticides, that people use to beautify their lawns. here is a cutie for ya! http://www.fotolog.com/zurumato , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > i live in the middle of the city > ain't ever seen a toad in oakland > poor lil critter will have to travel across a zillion streets to somehow end up in my backyard... > concrete jungle > > > >Anouk Sickler <zurumato > >Sep 19, 2006 12:13 PM > > > > Re: Toad > > > >fraggle > > > >there are things that you can do to attract them. > > > >for example toad houses, > >http://www.butterfly-gifts.com/toad-houses.html > > > >they love to hide in these during the day and come out at night. > >you can put them underneath a bush or something. > >you have to watch out that fairies don't move in. > > > >I have toads, the only problem is that he/she ate all of the > >ladybeatles that I had release that day. > > > >I did not know this until I actually saw it happen. > >he was so thrilled at the ladybeetle dinner that he didn't care > >that I was real close to him, watching him. > > > >We give them names. > > > > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 I suppose we have them because there are some small lakes nearby and streams. Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Peter I think they are in decline. We used to see more. Which birds eat frogs? We don't have any rooks or crows or magpies coming in at the moment. We have lots of small birds - chaffinches, bluetits, great-tits, coal tits, and long-tailed tits, robins, greenfinches, nuthatch, tree-creeper, bullfinches and the greater spotted woodpecker. Jo , peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: > > I havent seen a toad in a garden since I was a little boy. Are they in decline in urban areas? > I bet the birds are having a feast in your garden? > > The Valley Vegan............. > > jo <jo.heartwork wrote: > We have a lovely little toad living in the porch. Just lately he must have taken to sitting on the little ledge of the door, because every time I open the door, he falls into the kitchen. We also have loads of tiny baby frogs at present. Colin has to walk around the garden to give them plenty of warning when he is going to mow the lawn. > > Jo > > > > Peter H > > > > > Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Mail. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Fraggle They wouldn't make it. At certain times of the year here the toads cross the road, and lots of them get killed. We do have signs up warning drivers, and it has helped a little. Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: > > i live in the middle of the city > ain't ever seen a toad in oakland > poor lil critter will have to travel across a zillion streets to somehow end up in my backyard... > concrete jungle > > > >Anouk Sickler <zurumato > >Sep 19, 2006 12:13 PM > > > > Re: Toad > > > >fraggle > > > >there are things that you can do to attract them. > > > >for example toad houses, > >http://www.butterfly-gifts.com/toad-houses.html > > > >they love to hide in these during the day and come out at night. > >you can put them underneath a bush or something. > >you have to watch out that fairies don't move in. > > > >I have toads, the only problem is that he/she ate all of the > >ladybeatles that I had release that day. > > > >I did not know this until I actually saw it happen. > >he was so thrilled at the ladybeetle dinner that he didn't care > >that I was real close to him, watching him. > > > >We give them names. > > > > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 He is sweet - brighter than the ones in my garden. Ours are quite dark brown, with a green tinge. Jo , " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato wrote: > > I had not realized that oakland was that developed. > > in the (parrots of san francisco movie) there seem to be some nature > left. > > i have never been there. oh well. > > I myself have notice the decline in frogs, > as you walk around my neighborhood, you can see this > chemicaly bubble with lots of irridescent colors, this liquid > runs on the sidewalk whenever it rains, and > of course it is Roundup, pesticides, that people use to beautify their > lawns. > > here is a cutie for ya! > http://www.fotolog.com/zurumato , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@> wrote: > > > > i live in the middle of the city > > ain't ever seen a toad in oakland > > poor lil critter will have to travel across a zillion streets to > somehow end up in my backyard... > > concrete jungle > > > > > > >Anouk Sickler <zurumato@> > > >Sep 19, 2006 12:13 PM > > > > > > Re: Toad > > > > > >fraggle > > > > > >there are things that you can do to attract them. > > > > > >for example toad houses, > > >http://www.butterfly-gifts.com/toad-houses.html > > > > > >they love to hide in these during the day and come out at night. > > >you can put them underneath a bush or something. > > >you have to watch out that fairies don't move in. > > > > > >I have toads, the only problem is that he/she ate all of the > > >ladybeatles that I had release that day. > > > > > >I did not know this until I actually saw it happen. > > >he was so thrilled at the ladybeetle dinner that he didn't care > > >that I was real close to him, watching him. > > > > > >We give them names. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Jo So sweet!!! They must be lovely to listen to. Has the toad told you his name yet? If not, may I suggest calling him George? We have the loveliest praying mantis that has been visiting all summer (his name is George). He started out in my cucumbers but now that they are all dead, so he has opted for the tomatoe plants across the yard. Towards the end of the day he grabs the last rays of sun on the drainspout from the garage. Zak and I enjoy talking with him every day. BB Nikki , " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > We have a lovely little toad living in the porch. Just lately he must have taken to sitting on the little ledge of the door, because every time I open the door, he falls into the kitchen. We also have loads of tiny baby frogs at present. Colin has to walk around the garden to give them plenty of warning when he is going to mow the lawn. > > Jo > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Nikki He hasn't said his name yet - Maybe he will be my familiar :-) I will call him George ........ How big is the praying mantis. It must be interesting to watch. BB Jo , " earthstrm " <earthstorm wrote: > > Hi Jo > > So sweet!!! They must be lovely to listen to. > > Has the toad told you his name yet? If not, may I suggest calling him > George? > > We have the loveliest praying mantis that has been visiting all summer > (his name is George). He started out in my cucumbers but now that they > are all dead, so he has opted for the tomatoe plants across the yard. > Towards the end of the day he grabs the last rays of sun on the > drainspout from the garage. > > Zak and I enjoy talking with him every day. > > BB > Nikki > > > , " jo " <jo.heartwork@> wrote: > > > > We have a lovely little toad living in the porch. Just lately he > must have taken to sitting on the little ledge of the door, because > every time I open the door, he falls into the kitchen. We also have > loads of tiny baby frogs at present. Colin has to walk around the > garden to give them plenty of warning when he is going to mow the lawn. > > > > Jo > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Nikki >Has the toad told you his name yet? If not, may I suggest calling him >George? Well, there's a surprise ;-) >We have the loveliest praying mantis that has been visiting all summer >(his name is George). He started out in my cucumbers but now that they >are all dead, so he has opted for the tomatoe plants across the yard. >Towards the end of the day he grabs the last rays of sun on the >drainspout from the garage. So.. I have to ask.... how come Zak didn't end up called George? :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Jo >He hasn't said his name yet - Maybe he will be my familiar :-) I will >call him George ........ Not Touchwood? :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 they need water to lay their eggs. we dug a hole in the ground last year until it was a little pond and this little pond is home to thousands of frogs. I say thousands, because every night I hear mating/sexual activity Hee heee, by frogs. then the next morning I see tiny little dots in a jelly like substance. , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > I suppose we have them because there are some small lakes nearby and > streams. > > Jo > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 hi nikki, i have never seen a praying mantis in person. it's nice that you have one , " earthstrm " <earthstorm wrote: > > Hi Jo > > So sweet!!! They must be lovely to listen to. > > Has the toad told you his name yet? If not, may I suggest calling him > George? > > We have the loveliest praying mantis that has been visiting all summer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 that movie takes place on nob hill, er as its usually called " Snob hill " ...lotsa trees and such...but its not like wild er anything lotsa parks around here and such..and we are surrounded by regional parks and open lands...but i live smack dab in the middle of oakland.,..concrete and asphalt everywhere.... plus..no water..nowhere for them to breed http://www.talkingtospirit.com/Oakland1.jpg http://www.photovault.com/Link/Cities/San/BayAreaSanFrancisco/show.asp?tg=CSBVol\ ume01/CSBV01P05_14 http://www.photovault.com/Link/Cities/San/BayAreaSanFrancisco/Places/Oakland.htm\ l http://www.oaklandnet.com/ http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map & q=Oakland,+CA >Anouk Sickler <zurumato >Sep 19, 2006 9:31 PM > > Re: Toad > >I had not realized that oakland was that developed. > >in the (parrots of san francisco movie) there seem to be some nature >left. > >i have never been there. oh well. > >I myself have notice the decline in frogs, >as you walk around my neighborhood, you can see this >chemicaly bubble with lots of irridescent colors, this liquid >runs on the sidewalk whenever it rains, and >of course it is Roundup, pesticides, that people use to beautify their >lawns. > >here is a cutie for ya! >http://www.fotolog.com/zurumato > > > > > > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: >> >> i live in the middle of the city >> ain't ever seen a toad in oakland >> poor lil critter will have to travel across a zillion streets to >somehow end up in my backyard... >> concrete jungle >> >> >> >Anouk Sickler <zurumato >> >Sep 19, 2006 12:13 PM >> > >> > Re: Toad >> > >> >fraggle >> > >> >there are things that you can do to attract them. >> > >> >for example toad houses, >> >http://www.butterfly-gifts.com/toad-houses.html >> > >> >they love to hide in these during the day and come out at night. >> >you can put them underneath a bush or something. >> >you have to watch out that fairies don't move in. >> > >> >I have toads, the only problem is that he/she ate all of the >> >ladybeatles that I had release that day. >> > >> >I did not know this until I actually saw it happen. >> >he was so thrilled at the ladybeetle dinner that he didn't care >> >that I was real close to him, watching him. >> > >> >We give them names. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >To send an email to - >> > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Peter Oh yes - that might be best :-) They never repeated that programme you know! BBJo - Peter Kebbell Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:38 PM Re: Re: Toad Hi Jo >He hasn't said his name yet - Maybe he will be my familiar :-) I will >call him George ........ Not Touchwood? :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 We keep wondering about putting in a small pond but haven't got round to it yet. Maybe it will happen. Jo - " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato Wednesday, September 20, 2006 2:37 PM Re: Toad > they need water to lay their eggs. > we dug a hole in the ground last year until it was a little pond > and this little pond is home to thousands of frogs. > > I say thousands, because every night I hear mating/sexual activity > Hee heee, by frogs. > > then the next morning I see tiny little dots in a jelly like substance. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Jo What - not even on UK Gold? I'm surprised! BB Peter - jo Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:46 PM Re: Re: Toad Hi Peter Oh yes - that might be best :-) They never repeated that programme you know! BBJo - Peter Kebbell Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:38 PM Re: Re: Toad Hi Jo >He hasn't said his name yet - Maybe he will be my familiar :-) I will >call him George ........ Not Touchwood? :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 I`m surprised that you dont have crows, blackbirds will have a go at froglets, do you have any Herons in the area? tadpoles have been known to be canibalistic, cats/foxes/badgers will eat frogs.....oh and the French! The Valley Vegan..................heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Hi PeterI think they are in decline. We used to see more.Which birds eat frogs? We don't have any rooks or crows or magpies coming in at the moment. We have lots of small birds - chaffinches, bluetits, great-tits, coal tits, and long-tailed tits, robins, greenfinches, nuthatch, tree-creeper, bullfinches and the greater spotted woodpecker. Jo , peter VV wrote:>> I havent seen a toad in a garden since I was a little boy. Are they in decline in urban areas?> I bet the birds are having a feast in your garden?> > The Valley Vegan.............> > jo wrote:> We have a lovely little toad living in the porch. Just lately he must have taken to sitting on the little ledge of the door, because every time I open the door, he falls into the kitchen. We also have loads of tiny baby frogs at present. Colin has to walk around the garden to give them plenty of warning when he is going to mow the lawn.> > Jo> > > > Peter H > > > > > Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Mail.>To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 Cute photo, dont advise that you handle it too much though? The Valley Vegan.................Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: I had not realized that oakland was that developed.in the (parrots of san francisco movie) there seem to be some natureleft. i have never been there. oh well. I myself have notice the decline in frogs, as you walk around my neighborhood, you can see this chemicaly bubble with lots of irridescent colors, this liquid runs on the sidewalk whenever it rains, and of course it is Roundup, pesticides, that people use to beautify their lawns. here is a cutie for ya!http://www.fotolog.com/zurumato--- In , fraggle wrote:>> i live in the middle of the city> ain't ever seen a toad in oakland> poor lil critter will have to travel across a zillion streets tosomehow end up in my backyard...> concrete jungle> > > >Anouk Sickler > >Sep 19, 2006 12:13 PM> > > > Re: Toad> >> >fraggle> >> >there are things that you can do to attract them. > >> >for example toad houses, > >http://www.butterfly-gifts.com/toad-houses.html> >> >they love to hide in these during the day and come out at night. > >you can put them underneath a bush or something.> >you have to watch out that fairies don't move in. > >> >I have toads, the only problem is that he/she ate all of the> >ladybeatles that I had release that day.> >> >I did not know this until I actually saw it happen. > >he was so thrilled at the ladybeetle dinner that he didn't care > >that I was real close to him, watching him. > >> >We give them names. > >> >> >> >> >> >To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 Frogspawn, I wonder how many kids / school field trips have plundered ponds for the pre tadpole stage frogs and toads.......... The Valley Vegan...................Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: they need water to lay their eggs. we dug a hole in the ground last year until it was a little pondand this little pond is home to thousands of frogs.I say thousands, because every night I hear mating/sexual activityHee heee, by frogs. then the next morning I see tiny little dots in a jelly like substance. , "heartwerk" wrote:>> I suppose we have them because there are some small lakes nearby and > streams.> > Jo>To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 20, 2006 We used to do it all the time. We werem't taught to think about what we were doing with wildlife. We used to collect birds eggs, frogspawn and newts etc. Jo - peter VV Wednesday, September 20, 2006 8:59 PM Re: Re: Toad Frogspawn, I wonder how many kids / school field trips have plundered ponds for the pre tadpole stage frogs and toads.......... The Valley Vegan...................Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: they need water to lay their eggs. we dug a hole in the ground last year until it was a little pondand this little pond is home to thousands of frogs.I say thousands, because every night I hear mating/sexual activityHee heee, by frogs. then the next morning I see tiny little dots in a jelly like substance. , "heartwerk" wrote:>> I suppose we have them because there are some small lakes nearby and > streams.> > Jo>To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
