Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 jo all the pubs what still have log fires etc jo <jo.heartwork wrote: What about all the pubs ?/?? Jo - louis stott Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:15 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 yes tthats true but what bout all the pubs etc Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Louis >YES I SEE YOUR POINT TOO FRAGGLE BUT ITS LIKE ME SAYIN I DONT LIKE PEOPLE HAVEI LOG > FIRES COS I BREATH IN DEAD TREES People tend not to take their log fires into public venues and wave them under other people's noses! BB Peter Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 what yoy on bout ???earthstrm <earthstorm wrote: Hi PeterYou really should apply for a patent for this immediately!BBNikki , "Peter" <metalscarab wrote:>> Hi Louis> > >yes tthats true but what bout all the pubs etc > > I've rarely seen a log fire in a pub - but when I have, they are usually in a fireplace, with a chimney and an extractor fan which takes the smoke outside - I've yet to see a smoker with a similar set up ;-)> > BB> Peter> Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 nor do the smokers wave ther smoke earthstrm <earthstorm wrote: Ah true - but those who attend these celebrations go knowing that a campfire is usually part of it :)Nikkifraggle <EBbrewpunx Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:15 pm Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 ebbrewpunx Offline Send Email Invite to 360º unless its beltane, guy fawkes day, er camping season Peter Mar 21, 2006 2:03 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 Hi Louis>YES I SEE YOUR POINT TOO FRAGGLE BUT ITS LIKE ME SAYIN I DONT LIKE PEOPLE HAVEI LOG> FIRES COS I BREATH IN DEAD TREES People tend not to take their log fires into public venues and wave them under other people's noses!BBPeter To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 nickki please POINT out where i was bein RUDE ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????earthstrm <earthstorm wrote: Hi Louis,I guarantee you Peter does not smoke! I understand your defense, but please do not be rude.I do smoke however but am trying deperately to quit. And yes we have a right too, so long as we are polite.We also have a right to walk in front of a speeding train, just don;t take another with you.Nikki , louis stott <lsstott wrote:>> hi peter > yer i see your point too but we smokers have a right too lo .... > i bet your a smoker too anyway ??????????????? > > > Peter <metalscarab wrote:> Hi Louis> > >but what bout us smokers lo ??? > > But what about us breathers???? ;-)> > BB> Peter Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Nikki > I do smoke however but am trying deperately to quit. And yes we have > a right too, so long as we are polite. And you also go to efforts to make sure non-smokers aren't affected by your smoke :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Nikki / Fraggle >Ah true - but those who attend these celebrations go knowing that a >campfire is usually part of it And at the risk of seeming picky - wood smoke is very different to tobacco smoke :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Nikki > You really should apply for a patent for this immediately! Perhaps I should - some sort of tall hat with a plastic mask that acts as a smoke extractor. Could even be made largely of tin foil :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Is that some kind of riddle? It would sadden me to see any creature actively hurting themselves. Maybe its because I am a parent, and a very protective one thats made me sensative? The Valley Vegan............ louis stott <lsstott wrote: there are lots and lots of whys and ifs etc but why why why peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Kids poisoning themselves from a young age with anything, and getting addicted to that poison I would find sad. Wouldnt you? The Valley Vegan...............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: why? same as one of my ex's.... lotsa kids start young.... not to stand up for smoking, i'm not suggesting that at all...but... why is it ok in society to feed kids cows milk and ritalin.....but smoking is a taboo and evil ick... both are pretty much crappy...no? just playing pluto's advocate.... peter hurd Mar 21, 2006 1:36 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 Some, myself included would find that statement quite sad, 9 years old? The Valley Vegan..............louis stott <lsstott wrote: ok sorry but why do vegans smoke lo ? cos im 26 now and i had my 1st cig when i was jist 9 "NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President." Peter H Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with . Enter now. Peter H To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Peter That's a good idea to get rid of the smoke - but imagine all those tall hats in front of us at concerts !!! :-) BB Jo - " Peter " <metalscarab Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:16 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 > Hi Nikki > > > You really should apply for a patent for this immediately! > > Perhaps I should - some sort of tall hat with a plastic mask that acts as a > smoke extractor. Could even be made largely of tin foil :-) > > BB > Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 I agree with you on this Peter. I don't think you are being overly-sensitive. Jo - peter hurd Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:29 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 Is that some kind of riddle? It would sadden me to see any creature actively hurting themselves. Maybe its because I am a parent, and a very protective one thats made me sensative? The Valley Vegan............ louis stott <lsstott wrote: there are lots and lots of whys and ifs etc but why why why peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Kids poisoning themselves from a young age with anything, and getting addicted to that poison I would find sad. Wouldnt you? The Valley Vegan...............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Peter > And you also go to efforts to make sure non-smokers aren't affected by your > smoke :-) Thank you - I do try, tis only right to. BB Nikki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Peter True, unless they used old railroad ties or something... And no risk, we already knew that. BB Nikki , " Peter " <metalscarab wrote: > > Hi Nikki / Fraggle > > >Ah true - but those who attend these celebrations go knowing that a > >campfire is usually part of it > > And at the risk of seeming picky - wood smoke is very different to tobacco > smoke :-) > > BB > Peter > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Peter > > You really should apply for a patent for this immediately! > > Perhaps I should - some sort of tall hat with a plastic mask that acts as a > smoke extractor. Could even be made largely of tin foil :-) I was thinking recycled plastic myself. BB Nikki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Jo Good point! Perhaps a backpack then. BB Nikki , " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > Hi Peter > > That's a good idea to get rid of the smoke - but imagine all those tall hats > in front of us at concerts !!! :-) > > BB > Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Nikki Ah yes- that's a much better idea :-) BB Jo - " earthstrm " <earthstorm Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:21 PM Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 > Hi Jo > > Good point! Perhaps a backpack then. > > BB > Nikki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Jo > That's a good idea to get rid of the smoke - but imagine all those tall hats > in front of us at concerts !!! :-) That's a good point... so, some sort of transparent material would seem to be the solution... and it could always be marketed as a safety feature to avoid getting shot by the police :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Nikki > > smoke extractor. Could even be made largely of tin foil :-) > I was thinking recycled plastic myself. Were you? Why would you think of something like that? ;-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Peter > > > smoke extractor. Could even be made largely of tin foil :-) > > I was thinking recycled plastic myself. > > Were you? Why would you think of something like that? ;-) Because it is a smarter idea. BB Nikki *going to hide now* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2006 Hi Peter That could be a good idea - would it also alter the smoke to make it transparent - I reckon the police would find a way to ignore any safety measures :-) BB Jo - " Peter " <metalscarab Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:47 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 > Hi Jo > > > That's a good idea to get rid of the smoke - but imagine all those tall > hats > > in front of us at concerts !!! :-) > > That's a good point... so, some sort of transparent material would seem to > be the solution... and it could always be marketed as a safety feature to > avoid getting shot by the police :-) > > BB > Peter > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2006 The smoke from log fires is not filling the room with concentrated smoke. Jo - louis stott Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:47 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 jo all the pubs what still have log fires etc jo <jo.heartwork wrote: What about all the pubs ?/?? Jo - louis stott Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:15 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 yes tthats true but what bout all the pubs etc Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Louis >YES I SEE YOUR POINT TOO FRAGGLE BUT ITS LIKE ME SAYIN I DONT LIKE PEOPLE HAVEI LOG > FIRES COS I BREATH IN DEAD TREES People tend not to take their log fires into public venues and wave them under other people's noses! BB Peter Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2006 Hi Louis I think that the point with fire logs is that they do not purposely have toxins loaded into them and are not sold that way. Fire logs you buy in a store may have a warning on the label to be careful, don't light by face, etc. They do not come with warnings that they cause cancer, birth defects etc. Tis a great arguement of others rights, but it goes down hill a bit when you start using things like this in your defense. I am not attacking you nor trying to argue with you. I smoke too, tho I wish I did not and am taking steps to stop. You have a right to do whatever you want to do, all they were saying was just remember to be polite to others. Especially when you are using a potentially deadly substance that others have chosen not to use. Nikki , louis stott <lsstott wrote: > > jo > all the pubs what still have log fires etc > > jo <jo.heartwork wrote: > What about all the pubs ?/?? > > Jo > - > louis stott > > Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:15 PM > Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 > > > yes tthats true but what bout all the pubs etc > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2006 Hi Louis To be honest I am about done with this conversation. I do find that shouting at others (caps lock), accusing someone you do not know of being a smoker, and excessive use of punctuation quite rude in a chat group. No one was trying to take away your rights Louis. They were simply trying to explain their point of view of why they do not wish to breathe in others toxic smoke. And you seem to be getting quite defensive about it. My view is this, if you want to fight for your rights on anything, you must also consider the rights of those around you. Nikki , louis stott <lsstott wrote: > > nickki > please POINT out where i was bein RUDE ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????? > > earthstrm <earthstorm wrote: > Hi Louis, > > I guarantee you Peter does not smoke! I understand your defense, but > please do not be rude. > > I do smoke however but am trying deperately to quit. And yes we have > a right too, so long as we are polite. > > We also have a right to walk in front of a speeding train, just > don;t take another with you. > > Nikki > > > , louis stott <lsstott@> wrote: > > > > hi peter > > yer i see your point too but we smokers have a right too lo .... > > i bet your a smoker too anyway ??????????????? > > > > > > Peter <metalscarab@> wrote: > > Hi Louis > > > > >but what bout us smokers lo ??? > > > > But what about us breathers???? ;-) > > > > BB > > Peter To send an email to - > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2006 hi nikki 1st frist ok caps on is how i sometimes write ok i did not mean the caps to be on and to bee { honest } i dont find any thing ron with what i said at toll ...................! ok i was defo not excessive any one of any thing at toll i was replyin an thats all so good bye earthstrm <earthstorm wrote: Hi LouisTo be honest I am about done with this conversation.I do find that shouting at others (caps lock), accusing someone you do not know of being a smoker, and excessive use of punctuation quite rude in a chat group.No one was trying to take away your rights Louis. They were simply trying to explain their point of view of why they do not wish to breathe in others toxic smoke. And you seem to be getting quite defensive about it.My view is this, if you want to fight for your rights on anything, you must also consider the rights of those around you.Nikki , louis stott <lsstott wrote:>> nickki > please POINT out where i was bein RUDE ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????> > earthstrm <earthstorm wrote:> Hi Louis,> > I guarantee you Peter does not smoke! I understand your defense, but > please do not be rude.> > I do smoke however but am trying deperately to quit. And yes we have > a right too, so long as we are polite.> > We also have a right to walk in front of a speeding train, just > don;t take another with you.> > Nikki > > > , louis stott <lsstott@> wrote:> >> > hi peter > > yer i see your point too but we smokers have a right too lo .... > > i bet your a smoker too anyway ??????????????? > > > > > > Peter <metalscarab@> wrote:> > Hi Louis> > > > >but what bout us smokers lo ??? > > > > But what about us breathers???? ;-)> > > > BB> > Peter> > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2006 some pubs do fill the room with this smoke i know of at 2 where i work jo <jo.heartwork wrote: The smoke from log fires is not filling the room with concentrated smoke. Jo - louis stott Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:47 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 jo all the pubs what still have log fires etc jo <jo.heartwork wrote: What about all the pubs ?/?? Jo - louis stott Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:15 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 yes tthats true but what bout all the pubs etc Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Louis >YES I SEE YOUR POINT TOO FRAGGLE BUT ITS LIKE ME SAYIN I DONT LIKE PEOPLE HAVEI LOG > FIRES COS I BREATH IN DEAD TREES People tend not to take their log fires into public venues and wave them under other people's noses! BB Peter Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2006 ??jo <jo.heartwork wrote: I agree with you on this Peter. I don't think you are being overly-sensitive. Jo - peter hurd Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:29 PM Re: Re: Public Smoking Ban 2007 Is that some kind of riddle? It would sadden me to see any creature actively hurting themselves. Maybe its because I am a parent, and a very protective one thats made me sensative? The Valley Vegan............ louis stott <lsstott wrote: there are lots and lots of whys and ifs etc but why why why peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Kids poisoning themselves from a young age with anything, and getting addicted to that poison I would find sad. Wouldnt you? The Valley Vegan...............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Security Centre. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
