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How sad Your children are lucky. When I came out my father denied my

sexual orientation by telling me I was mistaken, full stop. He softened

eventually but not much. Anyway, he is dead now so at least I don't

have to fight for his acceptance any longer. Sad but true. My mom

actually told me that she didn't know if she could still love me after

I came out. I have forgiven her for that statement but not forgotten. I

can only hope to be a more accepting mother for my child when she grows

up... and, of course, that she does not turn into a fundamentalist

Christian or something like that (no offence if anyone on the list is

but it would be difficult to have me as a mother and be a

fundamentalist Christian, methinks)

BB

AlexOn 02/11/05, Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens wrote:

Damn, another fantasy blown!

I just found out a friend of mine is pregnant. Her

signifigant other is African-American and she is white. His

family is devout cath and can't accept them because she's pregnant out

of wed-lock. Her family can't accept them because he's

African-American. Interestingly enough, her sister is gay and my

friend supported her through everything, including acceptance by the

family and she's the biggest thorn in my friend's side right now.

It's just too sad.

I would like to hope that I would accept my children's

lifestyles. I'll be the first to tell them that I may not like it

and why, but I accept their choices. I know that I will always

love them no matter what.

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and here ya'll that it was sad that my *family* in no way included any people i'm related to..

i'll take my friends any day over my father, step mother, mohter, aunts, uncles, etc...

they have stood up with me thru everything

couldn't ever say the same about my folks...

Alex Iantaffi Nov 2, 2005 11:21 AM Re: Re: 800 members?? How sad Your children are lucky. When I came out my father denied my sexual orientation by telling me I was mistaken, full stop. He softened eventually but not much. Anyway, he is dead now so at least I don't have to fight for his acceptance any longer. Sad but true. My mom actually told me that she didn't know if she could still love me after I came out. I have forgiven her for that statement but not forgotten. I can only hope to be a more accepting mother for my child when she grows up... and, of course, that she does not turn into a fundamentalist Christian or something like that (no offence if anyone on the list is but it would be difficult to have me as a mother and be a fundamentalist Christian, methinks)BBAlex

On 02/11/05, Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens wrote:

Damn, another fantasy blown!

I just found out a friend of mine is pregnant. Her signifigant other is African-American and she is white. His family is devout cath and can't accept them because she's pregnant out of wed-lock. Her family can't accept them because he's African-American. Interestingly enough, her sister is gay and my friend supported her through everything, including acceptance by the family and she's the biggest thorn in my friend's side right now. It's just too sad.

I would like to hope that I would accept my children's lifestyles. I'll be the first to tell them that I may not like it and why, but I accept their choices. I know that I will always love them no matter what.

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Hi Alex,

> Thanks for the invite. Mmmm, cookies.... Tempting as it is, I shall

have to

> decline saying anything at the moment in case I get denied by Peter

for the

> third time ;-) LOL

Oh I completely understand, we must protect our friends!

Um, some wine then?

BB

Nikki

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I would agree there Jonnie - although I don't know that I would be brave enough to tell them I don't like it :-)Jo

I would like to hope that I would accept my children's lifestyles. I'll be the first to tell them that I may not like it and why, but I accept their choices. I know that I will always love them no matter what.

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LOL - maybe you can see that other things would be difficult for other mothers to be happy about :-)

Jo

I can only hope to be a more accepting mother for my child when she grows up... and, of course, that she does not turn into a fundamentalist Christian or something like that (no offence if anyone on the list is but it would be difficult to have me as a mother and be a fundamentalist Christian, methinks)BBAlex

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I also agree, and I will make my opinions known to my children, and would expect them to accept that everyone is entitled to an opinion.

The Valley Vegan.....................jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

I would agree there Jonnie - although I don't know that I would be brave enough to tell them I don't like it :-)Jo

I would like to hope that I would accept my children's lifestyles. I'll be the first to tell them that I may not like it and why, but I accept their choices. I know that I will always love them no matter what.Peter H

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It wasn't a case where their mouth engages before their brain? I'm famous for that. Sometimes it takes a good while to realize what I've said! ("I said that? Holy H*ell, I'm SO sorry!", should be on my T-Shirt) I think I get on my son's last nerve sometimes. I'm often reminding him "Dude," (yep, that's what I call him) "I'm just suggestin', it's up to you to decide!" I often ask him if he wants me to keep my mouth shut and he says he really doesn't. He and I are too much alike, is the problem. Same with my eldest daughter. Her DH is such a jerk, she knows it and I know it, but we refrain from talking about it much. She lives in Oregon and I've often told her I sure wish she and the twins were here, but I would really have a hard time not getting into a fight with your hubby and his mother. When she was last here (she came out when I had my stent put in) she made the comment to us that she had forgotten what

it was like to just be accepted and not have to worry about how what she says or does being taken. I told her that was so, so sad. Her MIL is always talkin' trash about her and too her and so is her DH. It's her choice though and I stand behind her choice. Of course, she has said several times that she wishes she would have listened to my advice before she married the guy, but she's in bed now (so to speak) and that's where she's stayin'. Alex Iantaffi <alex.iantaffi wrote:

How sad Your children are lucky. When I came out my father denied my sexual orientation by telling me I was mistaken, full stop. He softened eventually but not much. Anyway, he is dead now so at least I don't have to fight for his acceptance any longer. Sad but true. My mom actually told me that she didn't know if she could still love me after I came out. I have forgiven her for that statement but not forgotten. I can only hope to be a more accepting mother for my child when she grows up... and, of course, that she does not turn into a fundamentalist Christian or something like that (no offence if anyone on the list is but it would be difficult to have me as a mother and be a fundamentalist Christian, methinks)BBAlex

On 02/11/05, Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens wrote:

Damn, another fantasy blown!

I just found out a friend of mine is pregnant. Her signifigant other is African-American and she is white. His family is devout cath and can't accept them because she's pregnant out of wed-lock. Her family can't accept them because he's African-American. Interestingly enough, her sister is gay and my friend supported her through everything, including acceptance by the family and she's the biggest thorn in my friend's side right now. It's just too sad.

I would like to hope that I would accept my children's lifestyles. I'll be the first to tell them that I may not like it and why, but I accept their choices. I know that I will always love them no matter what.

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Hi Alex

> Thanks for the invite. Mmmm, cookies.... Tempting as it is, I shall

> have to

> decline saying anything at the moment in case I get denied by Peter

> for the

> third time ;-) LOL

Hey... what's with the Biblical references???? :-)

BB

Peter

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Yeah, cuz it goes both ways. My kids tell me what they think I should do all the time!peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote:

I also agree, and I will make my opinions known to my children, and would expect them to accept that everyone is entitled to an opinion.

The Valley Vegan.....................jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

I would agree there Jonnie - although I don't know that I would be brave enough to tell them I don't like it :-)Jo

I would like to hope that I would accept my children's lifestyles. I'll be the first to tell them that I may not like it and why, but I accept their choices. I know that I will always love them no matter what.

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I'm sorry to hear that Fraggle.

Jo

and here ya'll that it was sad that my *family* in no way included any

people i'm related to..

i'll take my friends any day over my father, step mother, mohter,

aunts, uncles, etc...

they have stood up with me thru everything

couldn't ever say the same about my folks...

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no reason t o be sorry