Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

August 5, 2005

Steam your carrots until they are just done. Put in a pan with a little margarine and either brown sugar (organic cause they don't use no junk) or maple syrup. Toss until coated.

Lynda

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DragonSpiritHealer

Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:36 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

No, I have never had candied carrots... yes I am a deprived child. You do not want to know that story! Anyway, if you would like too share the reciept I would appreciate it.

Thanks,

DragonspirithealerLynda <lurine wrote:

OMG, you've never had candied carrots? You have been deprived! Gramma used to make those for us when we were mere knee-high kidlets!

Lynda

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peter hurd

Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:46 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

We have a winner, I never would of thought of carrots with Maple Syrup. Must try it.Thanks to one and all.......

The Valley Vegan........Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens wrote:

We love some with steamed carrots, it's pretty good in soy milk and I had some once in walnut maple muffins. I sure wish I had a recipe for that one! You also might not know, but it's swell over pancakes. :]

Jonnie peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote:

Anyone know what I can use up maple syrup for before it goes off?

The Valley Vegan.......Jonnie Hellens <jonnie_hellens wrote:

I'm having a lot of problems with lack of iron and someone suggested blackstrap molasses. I can't imagine just taking a spoonful, does anyone have any recommendations of foods to put it in/with?

Jonnie

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August 5, 2005

Hi Julia and all,

Are you using actual Maple Syrup or just Pancake Syrup. Only reason I

ask is because there is a huge difference. Pancake syrup is corn syrup

with flavoring and lasts forever because of all the additives.

Maple Syrup being natural is more likely to go bad because there are

no preservatives.

Though I don't know if it does go bad because it doesn't last here

very long.

Nikki

, Julia Barnes <julia.barnes@g...>

wrote:

> About the maple syrup going off, I had a big bottle of it that grew a

> layer of mould on the surface of the liquid. and I thought I was

using

> it pretty quickly. maybe it somehow got cross-contaminated with

> another food but I'm suspicious...

>

> julia

>

August 5, 2005

cooking carrots??

heathens Lynda Aug 4, 2005 11:08 PM Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Steam your carrots until they are just done. Put in a pan with a little margarine and either brown sugar (organic cause they don't use no junk) or maple syrup. Toss until coated.

Lynda

"God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him."

August 5, 2005

Are you calling my Gramma a heathen? Bad Fraggle <<bg>>

Lynda

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fraggle

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:13 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

cooking carrots??

heathens Lynda Aug 4, 2005 11:08 PM Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Steam your carrots until they are just done. Put in a pan with a little margarine and either brown sugar (organic cause they don't use no junk) or maple syrup. Toss until coated.

Lynda

"God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him."

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August 5, 2005

What's bad about a heathen?

Jo

Are you calling my Gramma a heathen? Bad Fraggle <<bg>>

Lynda

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fraggle

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:13 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

cooking carrots??

heathens Lynda Aug 4, 2005 11:08 PM Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Steam your carrots until they are just done. Put in a pan with a little margarine and either brown sugar (organic cause they don't use no junk) or maple syrup. Toss until coated.

Lynda "God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him."

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August 5, 2005

Depends on which definition in the dictionary you use. I prefer the one... pagan, of or pertaining to the heathen. But ..... any person neither Christian or Jewish will do in a pinch. However, some of the definitions were not so nice. It all depends on what one wants to be enlightened about I think. :-)

DragonspirithealerJo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

What's bad about a heathen?

Jo

Are you calling my Gramma a heathen? Bad Fraggle <<bg>>

Lynda

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fraggle

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:13 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

cooking carrots??

heathens Lynda Aug 4, 2005 11:08 PM Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Steam your carrots until they are just done. Put in a pan with a little margarine and either brown sugar (organic cause they don't use no junk) or maple syrup. Toss until coated.

Lynda "God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him."

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August 5, 2005

Hey, he meant it in a bad way <g>

Lynda

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Jo Cwazy

Friday, August 05, 2005 2:27 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

What's bad about a heathen?

Jo

Are you calling my Gramma a heathen? Bad Fraggle <<bg>>

Lynda

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fraggle

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:13 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

cooking carrots??

heathens Lynda Aug 4, 2005 11:08 PM Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Steam your carrots until they are just done. Put in a pan with a little margarine and either brown sugar (organic cause they don't use no junk) or maple syrup. Toss until coated.

Lynda "God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him."

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August 6, 2005

Hi

I knew really :-) I was just wondering why it would be an insult, as I know a few heathens.

BBJo

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DragonSpiritHealer

Friday, August 05, 2005 11:19 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Depends on which definition in the dictionary you use. I prefer the one... pagan, of or pertaining to the heathen. But ..... any person neither Christian or Jewish will do in a pinch. However, some of the definitions were not so nice. It all depends on what one wants to be enlightened about I think. :-)

DragonspirithealerJo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

What's bad about a heathen?

Jo

Are you calling my Gramma a heathen? Bad Fraggle <<bg>>

Lynda

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fraggle

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:13 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

cooking carrots??

heathens Lynda Aug 4, 2005 11:08 PM Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Steam your carrots until they are just done. Put in a pan with a little margarine and either brown sugar (organic cause they don't use no junk) or maple syrup. Toss until coated.

Lynda "God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him."

Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release 8/4/05

August 6, 2005

Hi Fraggle

> cooking carrots??

> heathens

Well, surely you wouldn't eat raw heathens????

BB

Peter

August 6, 2005

Hi Draggy

Common usage amongst Pagans in the UK is for those who follow the Northern Tradition (i.e. Asatru, or Anglo-Scandinavian polytheists). I know this isn't exactly the dictionary definition, but it is common usage!

BB

Peter

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DragonSpiritHealer

Friday, August 05, 2005 11:19 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Depends on which definition in the dictionary you use. I prefer the one... pagan, of or pertaining to the heathen. But ..... any person neither Christian or Jewish will do in a pinch. However, some of the definitions were not so nice. It all depends on what one wants to be enlightened about I think. :-)

DragonspirithealerJo Cwazy <heartwork wrote:

What's bad about a heathen?

Jo

Are you calling my Gramma a heathen? Bad Fraggle <<bg>>

Lynda

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fraggle

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:13 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

cooking carrots??

heathens Lynda Aug 4, 2005 11:08 PM Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Steam your carrots until they are just done. Put in a pan with a little margarine and either brown sugar (organic cause they don't use no junk) or maple syrup. Toss until coated.

Lynda "God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him."

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August 6, 2005

The cheek of it!

Jo

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Lynda

Friday, August 05, 2005 11:51 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Hey, he meant it in a bad way <g>

Lynda

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Jo Cwazy

Friday, August 05, 2005 2:27 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

What's bad about a heathen?

Jo

Are you calling my Gramma a heathen? Bad Fraggle <<bg>>

Lynda

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fraggle

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:13 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

cooking carrots??

heathens Lynda Aug 4, 2005 11:08 PM Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Steam your carrots until they are just done. Put in a pan with a little margarine and either brown sugar (organic cause they don't use no junk) or maple syrup. Toss until coated.

Lynda "God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him."

Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release 8/4/05

August 6, 2005

Yeah, he's been hanging out in the Nation of Bezerkley too long. Makes for a cheeky character <<eg>>

Lynda

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Jo Cwazy

Saturday, August 06, 2005 3:45 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

The cheek of it!

Jo

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Lynda

Friday, August 05, 2005 11:51 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Hey, he meant it in a bad way <g>

Lynda

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Jo Cwazy

Friday, August 05, 2005 2:27 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

What's bad about a heathen?

Jo

Are you calling my Gramma a heathen? Bad Fraggle <<bg>>

Lynda

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fraggle

Friday, August 05, 2005 10:13 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

cooking carrots??

heathens Lynda Aug 4, 2005 11:08 PM Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Steam your carrots until they are just done. Put in a pan with a little margarine and either brown sugar (organic cause they don't use no junk) or maple syrup. Toss until coated.

Lynda "God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the Andes and I had to eat him."

Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release 8/4/05

August 7, 2005

> Hey, he meant it in a bad way <g>

Not quite sure why that gets a grin... if he'd used the term "nigger" or "paki" in a derogatory way (as they were frequently in the 1950s), we'd all be outraged, so why is it alright to use a term denoting a religion rather than a race in such a way?

Peter

August 7, 2005

Ah, Peter, it doesn't mean "a" religion, it means a lack of a specific religion -- "a person who does not acknowledge your God, one who is not Xtian."

Lynda

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Peter

Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:20 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

> Hey, he meant it in a bad way <g>

Not quite sure why that gets a grin... if he'd used the term "nigger" or "paki" in a derogatory way (as they were frequently in the 1950s), we'd all be outraged, so why is it alright to use a term denoting a religion rather than a race in such a way?

Peter

August 7, 2005

To the people in that religion the word means 'their religion'. Have you not heard of the Heathen religion? It is like people talking about witches in the past tense, or Pagan in the sense you describe, not seeming to realise that there are witches and Pagans now and that they have as much right to respect as anyone else.

Jo

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Lynda

Sunday, August 07, 2005 6:48 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Ah, Peter, it doesn't mean "a" religion, it means a lack of a specific religion -- "a person who does not acknowledge your God, one who is not Xtian."

Lynda

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Peter

Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:20 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

> Hey, he meant it in a bad way <g>

Not quite sure why that gets a grin... if he'd used the term "nigger" or "paki" in a derogatory way (as they were frequently in the 1950s), we'd all be outraged, so why is it alright to use a term denoting a religion rather than a race in such a way?

Peter

August 7, 2005

A further comment. There are lots of Heathen gods. You have noted that the way Heathen is used in your description is one given to the word by Christians, not by the Heathens themselves.

Jo

Ah, Peter, it doesn't mean "a" religion, it means a lack of a specific religion -- "a person who does not acknowledge your God, one who is not Xtian."

Lynda

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Peter

Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:20 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

> Hey, he meant it in a bad way <g>

Not quite sure why that gets a grin... if he'd used the term "nigger" or "paki" in a derogatory way (as they were frequently in the 1950s), we'd all be outraged, so why is it alright to use a term denoting a religion rather than a race in such a way?

Peter

August 7, 2005

Jo, the word heathen came from the Christian folks. They came up with it. Until they started grouping folks under that umbrella, "heathens" called themselves what they were (Druid, Pagen, or had no name for their beliefs at all).

Lynda, hereditary "heathen" for over 10,000 years.

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Jo Cwazy

Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:01 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

A further comment. There are lots of Heathen gods. You have noted that the way Heathen is used in your description is one given to the word by Christians, not by the Heathens themselves.

Jo

Ah, Peter, it doesn't mean "a" religion, it means a lack of a specific religion -- "a person who does not acknowledge your God, one who is not Xtian."

Lynda

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Peter

Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:20 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

> Hey, he meant it in a bad way <g>

Not quite sure why that gets a grin... if he'd used the term "nigger" or "paki" in a derogatory way (as they were frequently in the 1950s), we'd all be outraged, so why is it alright to use a term denoting a religion rather than a race in such a way?

Peter

August 7, 2005

My understanding is that pagan with a small p is the word used to describe anyone non-Christian by Christians.

Jo

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Lynda

Sunday, August 07, 2005 8:39 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Jo, the word heathen came from the Christian folks. They came up with it. Until they started grouping folks under that umbrella, "heathens" called themselves what they were (Druid, Pagen, or had no name for their beliefs at all).

Lynda, hereditary "heathen" for over 10,000 years.

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Jo Cwazy

Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:01 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

A further comment. There are lots of Heathen gods. You have noted that the way Heathen is used in your description is one given to the word by Christians, not by the Heathens themselves.

Jo

Ah, Peter, it doesn't mean "a" religion, it means a lack of a specific religion -- "a person who does not acknowledge your God, one who is not Xtian."

Lynda

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Peter

Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:20 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

> Hey, he meant it in a bad way <g>

Not quite sure why that gets a grin... if he'd used the term "nigger" or "paki" in a derogatory way (as they were frequently in the 1950s), we'd all be outraged, so why is it alright to use a term denoting a religion rather than a race in such a way?

Peter

August 7, 2005

Lynda

> Ah, Peter, it doesn't mean "a" religion, it means a lack of a specific religion -- "a person who does not acknowledge your God,

> one who is not Xtian."

It is the religion practiced on the Heath Land (hence the term "Heathen") - in modern day usage it is a specific term for a group of polythestic religions, in the same way that Christianity is a term for a group of monotheistic religions. Just because you don't understand the term is no excuse to use it as an insult.

Peter

August 7, 2005

Hi Lynda

> Jo, the word heathen came from the Christian folks. They came up with it. Until they started grouping folks under that umbrella,

> "heathens" called themselves what they were (Druid, Pagen, or had no name for their beliefs at all).

The word "Heathen" comes from and Anglo-Saxon word for those who practice their religion on Heath Land (which I can't spell because I don't have the correct letters on my keyboard!), and was used by the Christians TO DENOTE A SPECIFIC RELIGIOUS PRACTICE. It was not developed to denote anyone who disagreed with official Christianity - they have other words for that, such as "heretic", or "apostate".

BB

Peter

August 7, 2005

Hi Lynda

> Until they started grouping folks under that umbrella, "heathens" called themselves what they were (Druid, Pagen, or had no

> name for their beliefs at all).

Incidentally, no-one called themselves "Pagan" until the 20th century. It was originally an offensive term for rural-dwellers in the old-English language (not sure if it was Anglo-Saxon, or pre-Anglo-Saxon). The word was adopted in the 20th century, by those who recognise the Earth as divine (hence the "rural" association).

Druids were priests and politicians of ancient Gaul and (possibly) Ireland, not a religion - using the term "Druid" as a religion in this context is a bit like using the word "Archbishop" or "Barrister" for a religion. With the exception of Johannes Trithemius, nobody is known to have classified themselves a Druid since the end of the 3rd century until William Stukeley in the 18th century, when the word started to gain something of its modern meaning as a religion rather than a specific priesthood.

The terms used for religions in the ancient world were almost invariably local, since most religious beliefs were based on the concept of the land providing sustenance, it made no sense for them to "travel", since the gods and goddesses associated with one piece of land do not have any associations with another piece! So religions did not "spread" in the same way as more ephemeral concepts associated with more recent religions, and hence names and terms remained specific to the locals.

BB

Peter

August 7, 2005

pagan was actually latin

paganus...country dweller...ie not of the city, so not urbane..backward..etc

but who's countin.... Peter Aug 7, 2005 2:33 PM Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Hi Lynda

> Until they started grouping folks under that umbrella, "heathens" called themselves what they were (Druid, Pagen, or had no

> name for their beliefs at all).

Incidentally, no-one called themselves "Pagan" until the 20th century. It was originally an offensive term for rural-dwellers in the old-English language (not sure if it was Anglo-Saxon, or pre-Anglo-Saxon). The word was adopted in the 20th century, by those who recognise the Earth as divine (hence the "rural" association).

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August 7, 2005

Nope, heathen is the word the xtians came up with.

Lynda

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Jo Cwazy

Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:59 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

My understanding is that pagan with a small p is the word used to describe anyone non-Christian by Christians.

Jo

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Lynda

Sunday, August 07, 2005 8:39 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Jo, the word heathen came from the Christian folks. They came up with it. Until they started grouping folks under that umbrella, "heathens" called themselves what they were (Druid, Pagen, or had no name for their beliefs at all).

Lynda, hereditary "heathen" for over 10,000 years.

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Jo Cwazy

Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:01 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

A further comment. There are lots of Heathen gods. You have noted that the way Heathen is used in your description is one given to the word by Christians, not by the Heathens themselves.

Jo

Ah, Peter, it doesn't mean "a" religion, it means a lack of a specific religion -- "a person who does not acknowledge your God, one who is not Xtian."

Lynda

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Peter

Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:20 AM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

> Hey, he meant it in a bad way <g>

Not quite sure why that gets a grin... if he'd used the term "nigger" or "paki" in a derogatory way (as they were frequently in the 1950s), we'd all be outraged, so why is it alright to use a term denoting a religion rather than a race in such a way?

Peter

August 7, 2005

Well, you use it your way on your side of the pond and we'll use it our way on our side of the pond. Ya know, like anarchist <g>

Lynda

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Peter

Sunday, August 07, 2005 2:10 PM

Re: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple Syrup

Lynda

> Ah, Peter, it doesn't mean "a" religion, it means a lack of a specific religion -- "a person who does not acknowledge your God,

> one who is not Xtian."

It is the religion practiced on the Heath Land (hence the term "Heathen") - in modern day usage it is a specific term for a group of polythestic religions, in the same way that Christianity is a term for a group of monotheistic religions. Just because you don't understand the term is no excuse to use it as an insult.

Peter

August 8, 2005

Hey everyone!

Maybe it's time for a time out here!

Count to ten 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10

Take some deeeeeeeep breaths.

Kristina

In a message dated 8/7/05 5:28:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

Message: 24 Mon, 8 Aug 2005 01:08:37 +0100 "Peter" <metalscarabRe: Blackstrap Molasses/Maple SyrupLynda> Well, you use it your way on your side of the pond and we'll use it our way on our side of the pond. Ya know, like anarchist <g>I'm not quite sure why you keep thinking it appropriate to "grin" over this issue. To people who follow the religion you are commenting on, your comments are highly offensive. This is not a "grinning" issue - it is a disgusting display of an individual (you) acting in a highly offensive way, and then insisting that you have every right to insult others because you don't understand the meanings of the words you are using. It is even worse, because when it is explained to you, rather than saying "OK, I didn't understand, but do now", you maintain that you have the right to redefine the English language regardless of who it offends. It is a sickening display of arrogance and insensitivity.Peter[This message contained attachments]

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