Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2005 Several brands of soymilk are fortified with b-12 and other b vitamins. I drink it everyday, so I'm not worried.... Rick Stevens <ecology1st2004 wrote: Hi List, Just wanted to give a quick health update to anyone on a vegan diet as I am. Here's the update, make sure you take plenty of sublingual B-12 every day. Also, make sure you take extra B-6, and extra Folic acid everyday as well. All three of the things can keep your heart healthy. Click link below to see why. Don't ignore this advice. It's very crucial for all vegans to be aware of this, as low B-12 levels can lead to heart disease! Gary Null pushes this big time too. Make sure and tell any other vegans you know about this. Be a smart vegan, not a dumb vegan. (-: Click here > http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/hcy Peace, Rick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2005 At 08:06 PM 1/7/2005 -0800, you wrote: >Several brands of soymilk are fortified with b-12 and other b vitamins. I >drink it everyday, so I'm not worried.... Many cereals are fortified too. And faux meats and the like. I eat a lot of supplemented foods, nutritional yeast, etc. but also take a vegan multivitamin just to be sure. Veronica Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 7, 2005 This goes not only to you, but to everybody - Don't be silly by thinking soymilk or cereal that's been fortified will take care of the B-12/B-6/Folic acid/ requirements. You need to go to the vitamin store and buy all three of these separately and take them daily. These particular vitamins are extremely cheap. It's absolutely foolish not to purchase them, and take them often. Remember, the vegan diet is a great diet, but you have to throw a few supplements in there each day to make sure you're getting the full benefit of the diet, without taking any foolish risk. Also, as far as the B-12 goes, make sure you take the sublingual form. 5000 mcg a day is a good dose. Peace, Rick. , RR/LA Small Pet Rescue <bunnyresq> wrote: > Several brands of soymilk are fortified with b-12 and other b vitamins. I drink it everyday, so I'm not worried.... > > Rick Stevens <ecology1st2004> wrote: > Hi List, > > Just wanted to give a quick health update to anyone on > a vegan diet as I am. Here's the update, make sure you > take plenty of sublingual B-12 every day. Also, make > sure you take extra B-6, and extra Folic acid everyday > as well. All three of the things can keep your heart > healthy. Click link below to see why. Don't ignore > this advice. It's very crucial for all vegans to be > aware of this, as low B-12 levels can lead to heart > disease! Gary Null pushes this big time too. Make sure > and tell any other vegans you know about this. Be a > smart vegan, not a dumb vegan. (-: > > Click here > http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/hcy > > Peace, > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 Hi List, Just wanted to give a quick health update to anyone on a vegan diet as I am. Here's the update, make sure you take plenty of sublingual B-12 every day. Also, make sure you take extra B-6, and extra Folic acid everyday as well. All three of the things can keep your heart healthy. Click link below to see why. Don't ignore this advice. It's very crucial for all vegans to be aware of this, as low B-12 levels can lead to heart disease! Gary Null pushes this big time too. Make sure and tell any other vegans you know about this also. Be a smart vegan, not a dumb vegan. (-: Click here > http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/hcy Peace, Rick Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 The only supplement that should be necessary is ones you are defficient in because you don't eat enough variety in foods or if your own personal body has absorbtion issues. I know lots of raw vegans who take zero supplements and are some of the most healthy people I know. The best advice...steer clear of fake meats, processed foods and " junk " food. Eat lots of greens, natural proteins like legumes and nuts and seeds, and lots of fruit. ~Mel --- ecology1st2004 <ecology1st2004 wrote: > > > This goes not only to you, but to everybody - Don't > be silly by > thinking soymilk or cereal that's been fortified > will take care of the > B-12/B-6/Folic acid/ requirements. You need to go > to the vitamin > store and buy all three of these separately and take > them daily. These > particular vitamins are extremely cheap. It's > absolutely foolish not > to purchase them, and take them often. Remember, the > vegan diet is a > great diet, but you have to throw a few supplements > in there each day > to make sure you're getting the full benefit of the > diet, without > taking any foolish risk. Also, as far as the B-12 > goes, make sure you > take the sublingual form. 5000 mcg a day is a good > dose. > > Peace, > > Rick. > > , RR/LA > Small Pet Rescue > <bunnyresq> wrote: > > Several brands of soymilk are fortified with b-12 > and other b > vitamins. I drink it everyday, so I'm not > worried.... > > > > Rick Stevens <ecology1st2004> wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > Just wanted to give a quick health update to > anyone on > > a vegan diet as I am. Here's the update, make sure > you > > take plenty of sublingual B-12 every day. Also, > make > > sure you take extra B-6, and extra Folic acid > everyday > > as well. All three of the things can keep your > heart > > healthy. Click link below to see why. Don't ignore > > this advice. It's very crucial for all vegans to > be > > aware of this, as low B-12 levels can lead to > heart > > disease! Gary Null pushes this big time too. Make > sure > > and tell any other vegans you know about this. Be > a > > smart vegan, not a dumb vegan. (-: > > > > Click here > http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/hcy > > > > Peace, > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - Helps protect you from nasty > viruses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 While we're talking about taking vitamins... Just in case this isn't from The Department of Duh... Its a gelatin thing. Make sure when buying vitamins, or any coated capsul, that the coating is vegetarian! Regular pharmacy shelves frequently aren't stocked. I go to a specifically vitamin store to make sure I'm not popping any ground hoof or bones into my mouth! ===== " The cat did not respond. She did not believe in paraphrasing anybody. If people pursued this same feline wisdom, there'd be a lot fewer misunderstandings. " From Kinky Friedman's Meanwhile, Back at the Ranch Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 everything in moderation I say. Fake meats are okay but just not too much. If you eat enough b-12 then why take more b-12? overdosing is not healthy on organs. I have said for years, before I became a vegetarian, that vitamins can be dangerous or beneficial, and they should be taken according to what you eat. Mary may need a lot of b6 while Joe has plenty of that but lacks vitamin whatever. My son eats cereal constantly, my other son eats nothing but crappola like cheesesteaks (he's 21) Should they take the same vitamin? Blessings, Maria/Chanda - Melissa Hill Saturday, January 08, 2005 1:05 PM Re: Re: Health Alert For Vegans The only supplement that should be necessary is ones you are defficient in because you don't eat enough variety in foods or if your own personal body has absorbtion issues. I know lots of raw vegans who take zero supplements and are some of the most healthy people I know. The best advice...steer clear of fake meats, processed foods and " junk " food. Eat lots of greens, natural proteins like legumes and nuts and seeds, and lots of fruit. ~Mel --- ecology1st2004 <ecology1st2004 wrote: > > > This goes not only to you, but to everybody - Don't > be silly by > thinking soymilk or cereal that's been fortified > will take care of the > B-12/B-6/Folic acid/ requirements. You need to go > to the vitamin > store and buy all three of these separately and take > them daily. These > particular vitamins are extremely cheap. It's > absolutely foolish not > to purchase them, and take them often. Remember, the > vegan diet is a > great diet, but you have to throw a few supplements > in there each day > to make sure you're getting the full benefit of the > diet, without > taking any foolish risk. Also, as far as the B-12 > goes, make sure you > take the sublingual form. 5000 mcg a day is a good > dose. > > Peace, > > Rick. > > , RR/LA > Small Pet Rescue > <bunnyresq> wrote: > > Several brands of soymilk are fortified with b-12 > and other b > vitamins. I drink it everyday, so I'm not > worried.... > > > > Rick Stevens <ecology1st2004> wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > Just wanted to give a quick health update to > anyone on > > a vegan diet as I am. Here's the update, make sure > you > > take plenty of sublingual B-12 every day. Also, > make > > sure you take extra B-6, and extra Folic acid > everyday > > as well. All three of the things can keep your > heart > > healthy. Click link below to see why. Don't ignore > > this advice. It's very crucial for all vegans to > be > > aware of this, as low B-12 levels can lead to > heart > > disease! Gary Null pushes this big time too. Make > sure > > and tell any other vegans you know about this. Be > a > > smart vegan, not a dumb vegan. (-: > > > > Click here > http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/hcy > > > > Peace, > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - Helps protect you from nasty > viruses. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 I've read that you need such tiny, tiny amounts of B12. Most people (unless medically challenged) can produce their own from friendly bacteria in the gut. It's also found on anything yeasty - dried fruit, ripe fruit, yeast extract, etc, and even in plants. Those lovely vitamin businesses just love to panic the public into buying their products! Fear is highly motivating. Personally, I found an article on the huge list of diseases related to milk consumption much more alarming. Sylvie *~*~* Let me take you on a journey, the ancient eyes said. Come, take my hand. *~*~*~*~* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 I'm a vegan since 1996, and we vegans get ZERO B-12 in our diets! Smart vegans take B-12 supplements daily. I repeat again, it is 100 percent foolish not to take a B-12 supplement everyday. B-12 prevents HEART DISEASE & BRAIN DAMAGE!!! Also, folic acid & B-6 work along with B-12 in helping the heart. As I said before, these 3 vitamins are very inexpensive, so there is absolutely no excuse not to take them. Also remember that in the case of B-12, there is absolutely no toxicity level. In other words, if you wanted to you could take a mountain of this stuff and it wouldn't hurt you in the slightest. You don't need to take a mountain of it though of course. I myself take 5000 mcg of it daily. Peace, Rick , Melissa Hill <assilembob> wrote: > The only supplement that should be necessary is ones > you are defficient in because you don't eat enough > variety in foods or if your own personal body has > absorbtion issues. I know lots of raw vegans who take > zero supplements and are some of the most healthy > people I know. > The best advice...steer clear of fake meats, processed > foods and " junk " food. Eat lots of greens, natural > proteins like legumes and nuts and seeds, and lots of > fruit. > > ~Mel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 Folic acid is only available in plant foods, so I can't see why that would be a problem. Also, why is a normal B-12 not sufficient? Veronica At 05:30 AM 1/8/2005 +0000, you wrote: >This goes not only to you, but to everybody - Don't be silly by >thinking soymilk or cereal that's been fortified will take care of the >B-12/B-6/Folic acid/ requirements. You need to go to the vitamin >store and buy all three of these separately and take them daily. These >particular vitamins are extremely cheap. It's absolutely foolish not >to purchase them, and take them often. Remember, the vegan diet is a >great diet, but you have to throw a few supplements in there each day >to make sure you're getting the full benefit of the diet, without >taking any foolish risk. Also, as far as the B-12 goes, make sure you >take the sublingual form. 5000 mcg a day is a good dose. > >Peace, > >Rick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 > >The best advice...steer clear of fake meats, processed >foods and " junk " food. What's wrong with faux meats? They are made of real food: gluten, soy, yam, etc. Okay, so some have a lot of salt, but as long as you eat low-salt otherwise, I don't see the problem. Most are low fat, high in vitamins, etc. Veronica Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 > It's also found on anything yeasty - dried >fruit, ripe fruit, yeast extract, etc, and even in >plants. Don't forget the B-12 heavy vegemite! I *love* it on toast! (Yeah, I dated an Australian back in the day. ) >Personally, I found an article on the huge list of >diseases related to milk consumption much more >alarming. No kidding...got anemia? Veronica Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 At 10:25 PM 1/8/2005 +0000, you wrote: >I'm a vegan since 1996, and we vegans get ZERO B-12 in our diets! What about supplemented foods, nutritional yeast, spirulina, seaweed, and trace elements on veggies? I take a multi containing B-12 daily, but there are vegan sources, too. Veronica Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 sorry..i don't buy into the whole "we must take this er that" constantly to stay vegan and healthy and all that B12..fine..hard to find in the vegetable kingdom... but..a varied and complete vegan diet should eliminate the need to take a zillion and one suppliments.... but..all folks are different...ppl have different needs.... Rick Stevens Jan 7, 2005 9:12 PM Health Alert For Vegans Hi List, Just wanted to give a quick health update to anyone ona vegan diet as I am. Here's the update, make sure youtake plenty of sublingual B-12 every day. Also, makesure you take extra B-6, and extra Folic acid everydayas well. All three of the things can keep your hearthealthy. Click link below to see why. Don't ignorethis advice. It's very crucial for all vegans to beaware of this, as low B-12 levels can lead to heartdisease! Gary Null pushes this big time too. Make sureand tell any other vegans you know about this also. Bea smart vegan, not a dumb vegan. (-:Click here > http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/hcyPeace,Rick Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search.http://info.mail./mail_250To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 Spirulina unfortunately has a phony B-12 in it that fools our body. Not good! Nutritional yeast with added B-12 is OK, but it's not the sublingual B-12, so it's simply not well absorbed, so it also is not to be relied on. Seaweed has the same problem, low B-12, and not well absorbed. Veggies provide no B-12 at all! Whatever book you read that in, tell the author he/she is sadly mistaken. Everybody, get yourself some sublingual B-12 and take it daily. B-12 is extremely inexpensive. Really folks, this one is cut & dry. Don't play around with low B-12 levels. This is way to dangerous a thing to play with. We vegetarians and vegans like to think we're conscience, and smart. So, lets all prove it by keeping ourselves informed. For the record, the best health site on the Internet is www.garynull.com That's always my first choice for staying informed. Take your B-12 people, (-: Rick , Diamond Dog <diamonddog@g...> wrote: > At 10:25 PM 1/8/2005 +0000, you wrote: > > >I'm a vegan since 1996, and we vegans get ZERO B-12 in our diets! > > What about supplemented foods, nutritional yeast, spirulina, seaweed, and > trace elements on veggies? I take a multi containing B-12 daily, but there > are vegan sources, too. > > Veronica > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 ummm, how can you say that vegans get 0 b-12? to me that is silly to day. Blessings, Maria/Chanda - ecology1st2004 Saturday, January 08, 2005 5:25 PM Re: Health Alert For Vegans I'm a vegan since 1996, and we vegans get ZERO B-12 in our diets! Smart vegans take B-12 supplements daily. I repeat again, it is 100 percent foolish not to take a B-12 supplement everyday. B-12 prevents HEART DISEASE & BRAIN DAMAGE!!! Also, folic acid & B-6 work along with B-12 in helping the heart. As I said before, these 3 vitamins are very inexpensive, so there is absolutely no excuse not to take them. Also remember that in the case of B-12, there is absolutely no toxicity level. In other words, if you wanted to you could take a mountain of this stuff and it wouldn't hurt you in the slightest. You don't need to take a mountain of it though of course. I myself take 5000 mcg of it daily. Peace, Rick , Melissa Hill <assilembob> wrote: > The only supplement that should be necessary is ones > you are defficient in because you don't eat enough > variety in foods or if your own personal body has > absorbtion issues. I know lots of raw vegans who take > zero supplements and are some of the most healthy > people I know. > The best advice...steer clear of fake meats, processed > foods and " junk " food. Eat lots of greens, natural > proteins like legumes and nuts and seeds, and lots of > fruit. > > ~Mel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 yeah, what she said. - Diamond Dog Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:47 PM Re: Re: Health Alert For Vegans > >The best advice...steer clear of fake meats, processed >foods and " junk " food. What's wrong with faux meats? They are made of real food: gluten, soy, yam, etc. Okay, so some have a lot of salt, but as long as you eat low-salt otherwise, I don't see the problem. Most are low fat, high in vitamins, etc. Veronica Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 b-12 is not meant to be sublingual. We are meant to get b-12 the way we do, through food, and if need be, through a supplement ok, but sublingual why? - ecology1st2004 Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:27 PM Re: Health Alert For Vegans Spirulina unfortunately has a phony B-12 in it that fools our body. Not good! Nutritional yeast with added B-12 is OK, but it's not the sublingual B-12, so it's simply not well absorbed, so it also is not to be relied on. Seaweed has the same problem, low B-12, and not well absorbed. Veggies provide no B-12 at all! Whatever book you read that in, tell the author he/she is sadly mistaken. Everybody, get yourself some sublingual B-12 and take it daily. B-12 is extremely inexpensive. Really folks, this one is cut & dry. Don't play around with low B-12 levels. This is way to dangerous a thing to play with. We vegetarians and vegans like to think we're conscience, and smart. So, lets all prove it by keeping ourselves informed. For the record, the best health site on the Internet is www.garynull.com That's always my first choice for staying informed. Take your B-12 people, (-: Rick , Diamond Dog <diamonddog@g...> wrote: > At 10:25 PM 1/8/2005 +0000, you wrote: > > >I'm a vegan since 1996, and we vegans get ZERO B-12 in our diets! > > What about supplemented foods, nutritional yeast, spirulina, seaweed, and > trace elements on veggies? I take a multi containing B-12 daily, but there > are vegan sources, too. > > Veronica > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 The sublingual form is best because we absorb it easiest that way. Plus, remember we're still not killing animals when we take a B-12 supplement. So, all is still well. (-: Also, even when we take L-Carnitine supplements, it's not coming from an animal source. L-Carnitine is also good for the heart. It's very good that many of these supplements are not from animal sources. Thank God, right. Peace, Rick. , " Maria/Chanda " <puterwitch@c...> wrote: > b-12 is not meant to be sublingual. We are meant to get b-12 the way we do, through food, and if need be, through a supplement ok, but sublingual why? > - > ecology1st2004 > > Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:27 PM > Re: Health Alert For Vegans > > > > > Spirulina unfortunately has a phony B-12 in it that fools our body. > Not good! Nutritional yeast with added B-12 is OK, but it's not the > sublingual B-12, so it's simply not well absorbed, so it also is not > to be relied on. Seaweed has the same problem, low B-12, and not > well absorbed. Veggies provide no B-12 at all! Whatever book you > read that in, tell the author he/she is sadly mistaken. Everybody, > get yourself some sublingual B-12 and take it daily. B-12 is > extremely inexpensive. Really folks, this one is cut & dry. Don't > play around with low B-12 levels. This is way to dangerous a thing > to play with. We vegetarians and vegans like to think we're > conscience, and smart. So, lets all prove it by keeping ourselves > informed. For the record, the best health site on the Internet is > www.garynull.com That's always my first choice for staying informed. > > Take your B-12 people, (-: > > Rick > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 Here, here!! I'm a little more fond of marmite myself, perhaps because I'm English, not Australian. I love the stuff on toast - but also use a dollop in soups and other things - it gives a nice base and adds that b-12. (Just don't tell my hubby, just the smell of the stuff makes him gag and he doesn't know he's eating it!) m > > Don't forget the B-12 heavy vegemite! I *love* it on toast! (Yeah, I > dated an Australian back in the day. ) > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 umm Melissa, what is marmite, LOL, excuse my newness, Blessings, Maria/Chanda - melissa_hopp Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:46 AM Re: Health Alert For Vegans Here, here!! I'm a little more fond of marmite myself, perhaps because I'm English, not Australian. I love the stuff on toast - but also use a dollop in soups and other things - it gives a nice base and adds that b-12. (Just don't tell my hubby, just the smell of the stuff makes him gag and he doesn't know he's eating it!) m > > Don't forget the B-12 heavy vegemite! I *love* it on toast! (Yeah, I > dated an Australian back in the day. ) > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 Okay - my two cents... I think it is really important to make sure you are eating a wide variety of foods - and my experience has been that few people do this as well as vegetarians and vegans. I do sometimes feel myself dragging a bit (especially at certain times) and keep a multivitamin on hand, as well as B and E supplements - I take them when I'm stressed, busy and not eating well, colds are going 'round, or I just feel drained. I also heartily agree that Folic acid should be taken by women of childbearing age, it simple, proven and better safe than sorry!! I also worry about my kids - and I do give them a children's multiple every couple days - especially in the winter when it is cold/flu time and there aren't the fresh fruits and veggies available to really balance a diet - it gives me peace of mind. I too, read the labels to avoid gelatin, etc. - which is tough with E and kids vitamins (I hate the chewy things that are all the rage, gelatin laden and bad for teeth). There are vegetarian friendly vitamins available!! Here's some info I got from a nutritionists posting on a BBC cooking website.... Vitamin B12 is found in milk, eggs, cheese and yeast extracts. Vegetarians normally get enough B12 from dairy produce, but vegan diets can be inadequate in B12. In order to avoid deficiency, vegans should try to eat foods enriched with B12 (such as breakfast cereals) or regularly include yeast extract in the diet. There are two types of iron: haem, which is the type found in meat; and non-haem, which is the type found in non-meat items such as eggs, cereals, vegetables, peas, beans and lentils. Non-haem iron is not as well absorbed by the body as haem iron is. However, the absorption of non-haem iron can be enhanced by vitamin C, which is a good reason for giving vegetables and fruit at the same time. m > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 , " Maria/Chanda " <puterwitch@c...> wrote: > umm Melissa, > what is marmite, LOL, excuse my newness, > Blessings, > Maria/Chanda > All I know is it is yeast extract. It is a pasty black substance, that I suppose you could say tastes sort of like tamari if you made it a paste. I have been told by those I've cajoled into trying it (those who've not had it & can get beyond the smell, which oddly some just detest, personally I think it is glorious) that it is an acquired taste. I think marmite is stronger than vegemite - which I think may have more veggies added? It is marvelous on buttery toast - you spread it pretty thin. It is also nice as a sandwich spread - I like vegemite better as a sandwich & spread it a bit thicker. It is not at all well known in the US, though I can find it at local stores...though you never know where, cuz I don't think they know what it is! International stores will have it. Which makes me think of this...do any of you have as much fun as I do at regular grocery stores stumping the checker?? I buy things I think are typical, like kale, parsnips, seitan, etc...but so often the checkout kid has no idea what it is! m Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 8, 2005 I looked at the soymilk I use, and it is fortified with 50% of the recommended amount of B-12 per day per serving, and I drink more than 1 serving per day, in addition to eating anything that's not made from animal bits and pieces. I eat a very varied diet, and feel that it is adequate enough. I don't see how getting a vitamin from a pill is better than getting it from good food. --- Maria/Chanda <puterwitch wrote: > ummm, how can you say that vegans get 0 b-12? > to me that is silly to day. > Blessings, > Maria/Chanda > - > ecology1st2004 > > Saturday, January 08, 2005 5:25 PM > Re: Health Alert For > Vegans > > > > I'm a vegan since 1996, and we vegans get ZERO > B-12 in our diets! > Smart vegans take B-12 supplements daily. I repeat > again, it is 100 > percent foolish not to take a B-12 supplement > everyday. B-12 > prevents HEART DISEASE & BRAIN DAMAGE!!! Also, > folic acid & B-6 work > along with B-12 in helping the heart. As I said > before, these 3 > vitamins are very inexpensive, so there is > absolutely no excuse not > to take them. Also remember that in the case of > B-12, there is > absolutely no toxicity level. In other words, if > you wanted to you > could take a mountain of this stuff and it > wouldn't hurt you in the > slightest. You don't need to take a mountain of it > though of course. > I myself take 5000 mcg of it daily. > > Peace, > > Rick > > > > > > , Melissa > Hill > <assilembob> wrote: > > The only supplement that should be necessary is > ones > > you are defficient in because you don't eat > enough > > variety in foods or if your own personal body > has > > absorbtion issues. I know lots of raw vegans who > take > > zero supplements and are some of the most > healthy > > people I know. > > The best advice...steer clear of fake meats, > processed > > foods and " junk " food. Eat lots of greens, > natural > > proteins like legumes and nuts and seeds, and > lots of > > fruit. > > > > ~Mel > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 9, 2005 Vegan diet does not eliminate the need to take a B-12 supplement though. So, we still need to take B-12. Remember also that a B-12 supplement (tablet) is not from an animal source. Rick , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
