Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 I have never noticed this and infact, the vegetarians and vegans that I know are some of the healtiest looking people I know. My sister's children have beautiful complexions and " knock on wood " are seldom sick or sickly and they both have been vegetarian since conception. They are very actice and energetic. I have found that some of the vegan people that I know are also staunch enviornmentalists and naturalists and I find that one in particular looks a bit pale but I think that it's because she wears absolutely no make-up whereas most of the women that I know do wear at least a bit. Strange that all the vegetarians that you know are pale. Could it be the temperature and weather where you live? Stef mrswalp29 <mrswalp29 wrote: does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking? everyone I know who is vegetarian including us are pale and have dark circles under their eyes. I have been to a nutritionist she says my diet is well balanced but we all look so sickly especially my husband who looks almost gray. I think that is one of the reasons so many people tell us we need meat. I didnt know if anyone else had that or knew what it is caused by. Steph Argue not with dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well with brie. Make free worldwide PC-to-PC calls. Try the new Canada Messenger with Voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 > I have never noticed this and infact, the vegetarians and vegans that I know are some of the healtiest looking people I know. I'll second that, Steff. I don't have vegetarian friends where we're living now now (although I run into several in the service industry, waitresses, chefs - of course!), but in the past I knew lots and lots and they all looked healthy and certainly were not pale with circles under their eyes! I don't understand this at all. All the veggies I knew (and now meet briefly) could be 'poster children' for the movement Perhaps you are being overly critical of yourselves? We sometimes are, of course. Does your nutritionist/medical advisor agree that you look pale and have dark circles under your eyes? Another thought: Are you getting enough sleep? Okay, this is a mystery! Love, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 , " mrswalp29 " <mrswalp29 wrote: > > does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking? I've been a vegan for 30 years but I'm not pale see my head shot at http://geoffnelder.com/ But I agree than many vegans are in spite of not being anaemic. I wonder if most vegans have lower blood pressure than non vegans and if this makes a difference to the blood in their faces? Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 At 08:41 AM 1/21/07, you wrote: >> does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking? > >I've been a vegan for 30 years but I'm not pale And I've been vegetarian since 1981 and I'm not pale. I don't spend any time baking in the sun during summer, though, and probably do look pale at that time compared with folks who do - but that has nothing to do with being vegetarian. Susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 > I wonder if most vegans have lower blood pressure than non vegans and if > this makes a difference to the blood in their faces? Good point! And that's funny because that's what my husband said - when I mentioned this issue to him after I posted my last message He used to have very high blood pressure - then we changed from vegetarian to vegan and the bloodpressure has of course gone down and his face is not flushed or high in colour or whatever you want to call it. (But he doesn't have circles under his eyes either! ) Isn't it interesting to think that, with so many in the western world, especially North America, over-eating the wrong kinds of foods - the SAD diet - it is possible people could start thinking of the sicklier 'norm' as being how we _should_ look. Love, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 I would agree that I overly look at my families complexion I guess a lot has to do with everyone butting into our personal choice to become vegetarians that now I am just paranoid. No the doctor says the circles under our eyes are because we are very light skinned she has no worry. I guess with the dieting and feeling light headed I worry something is missing when reality we are eating really well. We also live in Vermont where it is cold right now and we don't have a tan. Thanks for the reassurance. Steph It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Steph asked, " does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking? " I have heard other people say that, too. Maybe people who say that don't know what really healthy people look like - they think that looking flushed (possibly from high blood pressure???) is normal. ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ from Maida Please sign the petition to Allow Pets in Privately Owned Dwellings. Go to Citizens for Pets in Condos, www.petsincondos.org Need a search engine? Please use <http://www.goodsearch.com/> GoodSearch logo to help our cause, fill in " Citizens for Pets in Condos " in Who Do You GoodSearch for? <http://www.vistaprint.com/vp/gateway.aspx?S=5176697856> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 For me it is hereditary. I have huge dark circles and have been " fairly " vegetarian most of my life. (By that I mean I was raised a meat eater but never liked it and wasn't made to eat it.) My father lived on meat and his dark circles were much worse than mine. Samantha does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking? everyone I know who is vegetarian including us are pale and have dark circles under their eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 What's your water intake like? Dark circles are sometimes indicative of dehydration... Debra Lee Thompson First Horizon Home Loan Corp Asset Recovery Database Analyst 214.441.5416 debrathompson On Behalf Of Samantha Lea Monday, January 22, 2007 10:22 AM RE: question For me it is hereditary. I have huge dark circles and have been " fairly " vegetarian most of my life. (By that I mean I was raised a meat eater but never liked it and wasn't made to eat it.) My father lived on meat and his dark circles were much worse than mine. Samantha does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking? everyone I know who is vegetarian including us are pale and have dark circles under their eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 I drink water like crazy. Pretty much all I drink. However that has been true for only the last couple of years. I was a Diet Dr. Pepper fiend before that and it was the ONLY thing I drank. Probably did the damage then. Damaged my stomach too, that's why I had to stop drinking it. Samantha What's your water intake like? Dark circles are sometimes indicative of dehydration... Debra Lee Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Then again, if you eat a lot of veggies, especially greens, your skin carotenoid (I am quite sure that it spelled wrong - beta caroteine levels) levels will be higher, giving your skin more color. I have a slight (luckily) orange tone to my skin since I switched to a whole food vegan diet. And I am definatly not pale either...well, maybe today, but I have a bit of a cold, so that's what is going on now. I haven't noticed any of my vegan friends being particularly pale unless they are " junk food vegans " and aren't eating a balanced diet. ~Rachael , " Pat " <drpatsant wrote: > > > I wonder if most vegans have lower blood pressure than non vegans and if > > this makes a difference to the blood in their faces? > > Good point! And that's funny because that's what my husband said - when I mentioned > this issue to him after I posted my last message He used to have very high blood > pressure - then we changed from vegetarian to vegan and the bloodpressure has of > course gone down and his face is not flushed or high in colour or whatever you want to > call it. (But he doesn't have circles under his eyes either! ) > > Isn't it interesting to think that, with so many in the western world, especially North > America, over-eating the wrong kinds of foods - the SAD diet - it is possible people could > start thinking of the sicklier 'norm' as being how we _should_ look. > > Love, Pat > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 I can see what you are saying Rachael. We do eat a lot of green veggies and other colors. I can see why my husband is gray because he doesn't and eats his meals with coffee that drains all of our nutrients. That's what bothers me sure we have cookies once in a while but I am obsessed with balanced meals so there is flaxseed and tofu the list goes on and on. I am baffled. Hugs, Steph Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Debra, Yeah thats a thought we dont drink enough water and in the winter you are suppose to drink even more. Hugs, Steph TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 E-mail them to the group. They have people who transfer them to the file. Welcome aboard!!! Marilyn Daub mcdaub Vanceburg, KY My Cats Knead Me!! - Penny Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:57 PM Question How do we go about posting recipes? Do we put them in an email to the group or Recipes folder? I've got a few I'd like to share but I'm working on a big project (making some extra money to go with the Social Security) and don't have a lot of time to go looking through everything right now. Advice please? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Thanks! I'll try to get them done in a day or two. On Behalf Of Marilyn Daub Sunday, April 08, 2007 3:16 PM Re: Question E-mail them to the group. They have people who transfer them to the file. Welcome aboard!!! Marilyn Daub mcdaub Vanceburg, KY My Cats Knead Me!! - Penny Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:57 PM Question How do we go about posting recipes? Do we put them in an email to the group or Recipes folder? I've got a few I'd like to share but I'm working on a big project (making some extra money to go with the Social Security) and don't have a lot of time to go looking through everything right now. Advice please? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 I have a Black and Decker Handy Steamer and I use it almost every night because it steams vegetables and doubles as a rice maker. The one thing I would warn you about is to be sure that you get one with a plastic steamer basket and not aluminum. Aluminum gets into the food. Katie Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: I would like to buy a rice cooker/ veggie streamer if others have one I would love to know if there is a brand you would recommend or are they just something that takes up room and you never use. Steph Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 In a message dated 5/8/2007 3:01:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jtwigg writes: I don't eat anything with meat in it. or has been cooked with meat in it...... I would throw up if I tried. Just to repulsive to do that. Judy I immediately thought the same thing. I haven't eaten any type of animal in so many years that I'm afraid that I would become ill. As I see it, my family/close friends would know better and never serve me meat or anything that has even touched meat and anyone else just doesn't matter. I wouldn't create a scene and just find something else to eat. TM ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 On 5/8/07, Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: > > Does anyone here when in a social situation eat things with meat in it > by simply trying to remove as much as possible (example pepperoni pizza) or > for vegans eat a cake that you know is made with milk, eggs and honey? How > does everone handle these situations? > Steph > I don't! you simply don't consume it, plain and simple -- Tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 If it will be really socially uncomfortable, I will pick the meat out of something, but usually I try to just eat other things. Most of my friends know I am vegetarian so they tease me a bit, but usually make allowances for it. Katie Steph <mrswalp29 wrote: Does anyone here when in a social situation eat things with meat in it by simply trying to remove as much as possible (example pepperoni pizza) or for vegans eat a cake that you know is made with milk, eggs and honey? How does everone handle these situations? Steph Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 You will get sick. I was veg. for 3 years and last year I tested some apprtizers to see what was going to be served at my daughters wedding. Did I ever suffer for 3 days. Back on my veg. diet and doing great! Sissy , TendrMoon wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/8/2007 3:01:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > jtwigg writes: > > I don't eat anything with meat in it. or has been cooked with meat in > it...... I would throw up if I tried. Just to repulsive to do that. > Judy > > > > I immediately thought the same thing. I haven't eaten any type of animal in > so many years that I'm afraid that I would become ill. As I see it, my > family/close friends would know better and never serve me meat or anything that > has even touched meat and anyone else just doesn't matter. I wouldn't create > a scene and just find something else to eat. > > TM > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 I agree with everyone responses. I have taken pepperoni off pizza because people though I was a snob and I also got sick. Plus it made me sick to know even though I removed the meat the fat and all was still on it. It makes me so sad. That's why I want to get out of the food business handling it every day makes me sick to my stomach. Steph Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? Check outnew cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 I can't imagine that would be the case.... On 6/18/07, bbrenda_cook <bbrenda_cook wrote: > > My daughter has been told that my 10 year old g'daughter who has > recently chosen to be vegetarian should occasionally (maybe once a > week) eat some meat. This is because should she decide to go non vege > again her digestive system won't be able to digest meat properly if > she hasn't been maintaining a little meat eating. > Sorry this is a clumsy sentence..hope it makes sense. > Has anyone heard of this and is it true? > Thanks for any help > Brenda > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 This is not true. I have a friend who was raised vegan from birth and at 18 started eating meat. If you go for a long time without eating meat, you might get sick to your stomach, but that is a temp thing. Although, why anyone would want to start eating meat after being veg is a puzzle to me. HTH, Tracy , " bbrenda_cook " <bbrenda_cook wrote: > > My daughter has been told that my 10 year old g'daughter who has > recently chosen to be vegetarian should occasionally (maybe once a > week) eat some meat. This is because should she decide to go non vege > again her digestive system won't be able to digest meat properly if > she hasn't been maintaining a little meat eating. > Sorry this is a clumsy sentence..hope it makes sense. > Has anyone heard of this and is it true? > Thanks for any help > Brenda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 And with the issues of Mad Cow disease and the chemicals that are put in the meat during processing. Linda - Tracy Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:27 AM Re: question This is not true. I have a friend who was raised vegan from birth and at 18 started eating meat. If you go for a long time without eating meat, you might get sick to your stomach, but that is a temp thing. Although, why anyone would want to start eating meat after being veg is a puzzle to me. HTH, Tracy , " bbrenda_cook " <bbrenda_cook wrote: > > My daughter has been told that my 10 year old g'daughter who has > recently chosen to be vegetarian should occasionally (maybe once a > week) eat some meat. This is because should she decide to go non vege > again her digestive system won't be able to digest meat properly if > she hasn't been maintaining a little meat eating. > Sorry this is a clumsy sentence..hope it makes sense. > Has anyone heard of this and is it true? > Thanks for any help > Brenda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I've tried a couple times to eat meat after stop eat meat and I got sick.. I can eat seafood, fish....and not get sick but eat meat and get sick.. I think it is because of the fat in the meat.. There's a lot more in meat than there is in fishes... My sisters daughter did too. I think our bodies will adjust in time once one would start eating it again. Bev , " bbrenda_cook " <bbrenda_cook wrote: > > My daughter has been told that my 10 year old g'daughter who has > recently chosen to be vegetarian should occasionally (maybe once a > week) eat some meat. This is because should she decide to go non vege > again her digestive system won't be able to digest meat properly if > she hasn't been maintaining a little meat eating. > Sorry this is a clumsy sentence..hope it makes sense. > Has anyone heard of this and is it true? > Thanks for any help > Brenda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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