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[Guest guest]

I have never noticed this and infact, the vegetarians and vegans that I know

are some of the healtiest looking people I know. My sister's children have

beautiful complexions and " knock on wood " are seldom sick or sickly and they

both have been vegetarian since conception. They are very actice and energetic.

I have found that some of the vegan people that I know are also staunch

enviornmentalists and naturalists and I find that one in particular looks a bit

pale but I think that it's because she wears absolutely no make-up whereas most

of the women that I know do wear at least a bit.

Strange that all the vegetarians that you know are pale. Could it be the

temperature and weather where you live?

Stef

 

mrswalp29 <mrswalp29 wrote:

does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking? everyone

I know who is vegetarian including us are pale and have dark circles

under their eyes. I have been to a nutritionist she says my diet is

well balanced but we all look so sickly especially my husband who

looks almost gray. I think that is one of the reasons so many people

tell us we need meat. I didnt know if anyone else had that or knew

what it is caused by.

Steph

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> I have never noticed this and infact, the vegetarians and vegans that I

know are some

of the healtiest looking people I know.

 

I'll second that, Steff. I don't have vegetarian friends where we're living now

now (although

I run into several in the service industry, waitresses, chefs - of course!), but

in the past I

knew lots and lots and they all looked healthy and certainly were not pale with

circles

under their eyes! I don't understand this at all. All the veggies I knew (and

now meet

briefly) could be 'poster children' for the movement Perhaps you are being

overly critical

of yourselves? We sometimes are, of course. Does your nutritionist/medical

advisor agree

that you look pale and have dark circles under your eyes?

 

Another thought: Are you getting enough sleep?

 

Okay, this is a mystery!

 

Love, Pat

[Guest guest]

, " mrswalp29 " <mrswalp29

wrote:

>

> does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking?

 

I've been a vegan for 30 years but I'm not pale

 

see my head shot at

http://geoffnelder.com/

 

But I agree than many vegans are in spite of not being anaemic. I

wonder if most vegans have lower blood pressure than non vegans and if

this makes a difference to the blood in their faces?

 

Geoff

[Guest guest]

At 08:41 AM 1/21/07, you wrote:

>> does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking?

>

>I've been a vegan for 30 years but I'm not pale

 

And I've been vegetarian since 1981 and I'm not pale. I don't spend any time

baking in the sun during summer, though, and probably do look pale at that time

compared with folks who do - but that has nothing to do with being vegetarian.

 

Susan

[Guest guest]

> I wonder if most vegans have lower blood pressure than non vegans and if

> this makes a difference to the blood in their faces?

 

Good point! And that's funny because that's what my husband said - when I

mentioned

this issue to him after I posted my last message He used to have very high

blood

pressure - then we changed from vegetarian to vegan and the bloodpressure has of

course gone down and his face is not flushed or high in colour or whatever you

want to

call it. (But he doesn't have circles under his eyes either! )

 

Isn't it interesting to think that, with so many in the western world,

especially North

America, over-eating the wrong kinds of foods - the SAD diet - it is possible

people could

start thinking of the sicklier 'norm' as being how we _should_ look.

 

Love, Pat

[Guest guest]

I would agree that I overly look at my families complexion I guess a lot has to

do with everyone butting into our personal choice to become vegetarians that now

I am just paranoid. No the doctor says the circles under our eyes are because we

are very light skinned she has no worry. I guess with the dieting and feeling

light headed I worry something is missing when reality we are eating really

well. We also live in Vermont where it is cold right now and we don't have a

tan. Thanks for the reassurance.

Steph

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Steph asked, " does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking?

" I have heard other people say that, too.

 

 

 

Maybe people who say that don't know what really healthy people look like -

they think that looking flushed (possibly from high blood pressure???) is

normal.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

For me it is hereditary. I have huge dark circles and have been " fairly "

vegetarian most of my life. (By that I mean I was raised a meat eater

but never liked it and wasn't made to eat it.)

My father lived on meat and his dark circles were much worse than mine.

Samantha

 

does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking? everyone

I know who is vegetarian including us are pale and have dark circles

under their eyes.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

What's your water intake like? Dark circles are sometimes indicative of

dehydration...

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of Samantha Lea

Monday, January 22, 2007 10:22 AM

 

RE: question

 

 

 

For me it is hereditary. I have huge dark circles and have been " fairly "

vegetarian most of my life. (By that I mean I was raised a meat eater

but never liked it and wasn't made to eat it.)

My father lived on meat and his dark circles were much worse than mine.

Samantha

 

does anyone know why vegetarians/ vegans are so pale looking? everyone

I know who is vegetarian including us are pale and have dark circles

under their eyes.

 

 

[Guest guest]

I drink water like crazy. Pretty much all I drink. However that has been

true for only the last couple of years. I was a Diet Dr. Pepper fiend

before that and it was the ONLY thing I drank. Probably did the damage

then. Damaged my stomach too, that's why I had to stop drinking it.

Samantha

 

What's your water intake like? Dark circles are sometimes indicative of

dehydration...

 

Debra Lee Thompson

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Then again, if you eat a lot of veggies, especially greens, your skin

carotenoid (I am quite sure that it spelled wrong - beta caroteine

levels) levels will be higher, giving your skin more color. I have a

slight (luckily) orange tone to my skin since I switched to a whole

food vegan diet. And I am definatly not pale either...well, maybe

today, but I have a bit of a cold, so that's what is going on now. I

haven't noticed any of my vegan friends being particularly pale unless

they are " junk food vegans " and aren't eating a balanced diet.

 

~Rachael

, " Pat " <drpatsant wrote:

>

> > I wonder if most vegans have lower blood pressure than non vegans

and if

> > this makes a difference to the blood in their faces?

>

> Good point! And that's funny because that's what my husband said -

when I mentioned

> this issue to him after I posted my last message He used to have

very high blood

> pressure - then we changed from vegetarian to vegan and the

bloodpressure has of

> course gone down and his face is not flushed or high in colour or

whatever you want to

> call it. (But he doesn't have circles under his eyes either! )

>

> Isn't it interesting to think that, with so many in the western

world, especially North

> America, over-eating the wrong kinds of foods - the SAD diet - it is

possible people could

> start thinking of the sicklier 'norm' as being how we _should_ look.

>

> Love, Pat

>

[Guest guest]

I can see what you are saying Rachael. We do eat a lot of green veggies and

other colors. I can see why my husband is gray because he doesn't and eats his

meals with coffee that drains all of our nutrients. That's what bothers me sure

we have cookies once in a while but I am obsessed with balanced meals so there

is flaxseed and tofu the list goes on and on. I am baffled.

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[Guest guest]

Debra,

Yeah thats a thought we dont drink enough water and in the winter you are

suppose to drink even more.

Hugs,

Steph

 

 

 

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Penny

Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:57 PM

Question

 

 

How do we go about posting recipes? Do we put them in an email to the

group

or Recipes folder? I've got a few I'd like to share but I'm working on a

big project (making some extra money to go with the Social Security) and

don't have a lot of time to go looking through everything right now.

Advice

please? Thanks!

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks! I'll try to get them done in a day or two.

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Marilyn Daub

Sunday, April 08, 2007 3:16 PM

 

Re: Question

 

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Sunday, April 08, 2007 2:57 PM

Question

 

 

How do we go about posting recipes? Do we put them in an email to the

group

or Recipes folder? I've got a few I'd like to share but I'm working on a

big project (making some extra money to go with the Social Security) and

don't have a lot of time to go looking through everything right now.

Advice

please? Thanks!

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have a Black and Decker Handy Steamer and I use it almost every night because

it steams vegetables and doubles as a rice maker.

The one thing I would warn you about is to be sure that you get one with a

plastic steamer basket and not aluminum. Aluminum gets into the food.

Katie

 

Steph <mrswalp29 wrote:

I would like to buy a rice cooker/ veggie streamer if others have one

I would love to know if there is a brand you would recommend or are they just

something that takes up room and you never use.

Steph

 

 

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/2007 3:01:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

jtwigg writes:

 

I don't eat anything with meat in it. or has been cooked with meat in

it...... I would throw up if I tried. Just to repulsive to do that.

Judy

 

 

 

I immediately thought the same thing. I haven't eaten any type of animal in

so many years that I'm afraid that I would become ill. As I see it, my

family/close friends would know better and never serve me meat or anything that

has even touched meat and anyone else just doesn't matter. I wouldn't create

a scene and just find something else to eat.

 

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[Guest guest]

On 5/8/07, Steph <mrswalp29 wrote:

>

> Does anyone here when in a social situation eat things with meat in it

> by simply trying to remove as much as possible (example pepperoni pizza) or

> for vegans eat a cake that you know is made with milk, eggs and honey? How

> does everone handle these situations?

> Steph

>

 

 

I don't!

you simply don't consume it, plain and simple

 

 

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[Guest guest]

If it will be really socially uncomfortable, I will pick the meat out of

something, but usually I try to just eat other things. Most of my friends know I

am vegetarian so they tease me a bit, but usually make allowances for it.

Katie

 

Steph <mrswalp29 wrote:

Does anyone here when in a social situation eat things with meat in it

by simply trying to remove as much as possible (example pepperoni pizza) or for

vegans eat a cake that you know is made with milk, eggs and honey? How does

everone handle these situations?

Steph

 

 

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[Guest guest]

You will get sick. I was veg. for 3 years and last year I tested

some apprtizers to see what was going to be served at my daughters

wedding. Did I ever suffer for 3 days. Back on my veg. diet and

doing great!

Sissy

 

 

, TendrMoon wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 5/8/2007 3:01:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> jtwigg writes:

>

> I don't eat anything with meat in it. or has been cooked with meat

in

> it...... I would throw up if I tried. Just to repulsive to do

that.

> Judy

>

>

>

> I immediately thought the same thing. I haven't eaten any type of

animal in

> so many years that I'm afraid that I would become ill. As I see

it, my

> family/close friends would know better and never serve me meat or

anything that

> has even touched meat and anyone else just doesn't matter. I

wouldn't create

> a scene and just find something else to eat.

>

> TM

>

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with everyone responses. I have taken pepperoni off pizza because people

though I was a snob and I also got sick. Plus it made me sick to know even

though I removed the meat the fat and all was still on it. It makes me so sad.

That's why I want to get out of the food business handling it every day makes me

sick to my stomach.

Steph

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I can't imagine that would be the case....

 

On 6/18/07, bbrenda_cook <bbrenda_cook wrote:

>

> My daughter has been told that my 10 year old g'daughter who has

> recently chosen to be vegetarian should occasionally (maybe once a

> week) eat some meat. This is because should she decide to go non vege

> again her digestive system won't be able to digest meat properly if

> she hasn't been maintaining a little meat eating.

> Sorry this is a clumsy sentence..hope it makes sense.

> Has anyone heard of this and is it true?

> Thanks for any help

> Brenda

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is not true. I have a friend who was raised vegan from birth and

at 18 started eating meat.

If you go for a long time without eating meat, you might get sick to

your stomach, but that is a temp thing.

Although, why anyone would want to start eating meat after being veg

is a puzzle to me.

HTH,

Tracy

 

, " bbrenda_cook "

<bbrenda_cook wrote:

>

> My daughter has been told that my 10 year old g'daughter who has

> recently chosen to be vegetarian should occasionally (maybe once a

> week) eat some meat. This is because should she decide to go non vege

> again her digestive system won't be able to digest meat properly if

> she hasn't been maintaining a little meat eating.

> Sorry this is a clumsy sentence..hope it makes sense.

> Has anyone heard of this and is it true?

> Thanks for any help

> Brenda

>

[Guest guest]

And with the issues of Mad Cow disease and the chemicals that are put in the

meat during processing. Linda

 

 

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Tracy

Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:27 AM

Re: question

 

 

This is not true. I have a friend who was raised vegan from birth and

at 18 started eating meat.

If you go for a long time without eating meat, you might get sick to

your stomach, but that is a temp thing.

Although, why anyone would want to start eating meat after being veg

is a puzzle to me.

HTH,

Tracy

 

, " bbrenda_cook "

<bbrenda_cook wrote:

>

> My daughter has been told that my 10 year old g'daughter who has

> recently chosen to be vegetarian should occasionally (maybe once a

> week) eat some meat. This is because should she decide to go non vege

> again her digestive system won't be able to digest meat properly if

> she hasn't been maintaining a little meat eating.

> Sorry this is a clumsy sentence..hope it makes sense.

> Has anyone heard of this and is it true?

> Thanks for any help

> Brenda

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I've tried a couple times to eat meat after stop eat meat and I got

sick.. I can eat seafood, fish....and not get sick but eat meat and

get sick.. I think it is because of the fat in the meat.. There's a

lot more in meat than there is in fishes... My sisters daughter did

too. I think our bodies will adjust in time once one would start

eating it again.

Bev

 

, " bbrenda_cook "

<bbrenda_cook wrote:

>

> My daughter has been told that my 10 year old g'daughter who has

> recently chosen to be vegetarian should occasionally (maybe once a

> week) eat some meat. This is because should she decide to go non vege

> again her digestive system won't be able to digest meat properly if

> she hasn't been maintaining a little meat eating.

> Sorry this is a clumsy sentence..hope it makes sense.

> Has anyone heard of this and is it true?

> Thanks for any help

> Brenda

>