Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 I'm so happy eating whole, raw, fresh fruits and vegetables that I don't even question the fact that I'm very healthy. From what I understand there's a little of everything in everything, in other words, virtually all fresh fruits and vegetables have some amount of protein, calcium, etc. in them, and I'm sure my body is getting all it needs of all the nutrients. Since I also believe that a simple raw food diet is the way the human animal was created to eat. Rich > Diana of Dewberry Hill <cozad76078> wrote: > Today is question day... > Do we need to take supplements other than a good whole food supplement like > Super Food or the like? What about calcium/mag in particular? Yes I know > tahini has calcium and so do certain greens, but I don't always juice or use > sesame seeds daily, and it is easer to take a calcium pill. Some say even > the organic foods are from depleted soils and that we really need extra > nutrution in this day and age. What think ye? What do you use? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Yes I have heard this, but can't quote a source. I would like to know more. Lane - johnd rawfood Thursday, December 23, 2004 11:19 AM Re: [Raw Food] Supplements On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 03:34:55PM -0500, lane lynn wrote: > > > I tried Superfood a couple of times. Each time I got a headache, so I stopped. Is it bad that it is in yeast? I would appreciate knowing. By the way Valerie, mine is from Dr. Schultze at 1 800 HERB DOC. Thanks Lane Why do you wonder if yeast is bad? Have you ever heard this before? I always thought it was a great source of b12 and generaly health. but then again that is what I used to think about soy (not the b12 part but the healthy part) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 24, 2004 I'm really not sure; the only particular I remember is iodide (not iodine) that was in the dye injected, and is also present in ocean seafood (particularly shellfish, I guess), and may be in the seaweed. I was able to eat fresh water fish in my non-vegan days without too much trouble, but saltwater seafood was a no-go. I don't have any particulars on different forms of yeast; I know some folks eat certain forms as a way of getting b12 into their diets, but again, that's another controversy. I've been doing well so far without. Peace, Valerie sunflowersupreme <no_reply > wrote: Valerie are there specific ingredients in the algae and seaweed that may contribute to headaches for some people? And how does yeast fit into all of this? I'm not familiar with either plant. rawfood , Valerie Mills Daly <valdaly> wrote: >Hi, Lane, There is algae and seaweed as part of the ingredients, and >that might be contributing to headache for you. I know that is a >source of reactions for me; I can't do sea foods at all. So I won't >be experimenting with Super Foods in the future, I guess, LOL! Also, >I avoid yeasts entirely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 24, 2004 Thankyou for these sites. I will check them out. Lane - Sophierose rawfood Thursday, December 23, 2004 8:15 PM [Raw Food] Supplements Lane, Just a suggestion. Go over to the site www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm and read the entire site. I think you will find some great help there. Also, I might suggest www.silvermedicine.com as well. ---- rawfood 12/22/04 21:14:24 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Supplements Yes Diana I understand the idea of detox. But with the super food I am not sure it is detox, as much as tox. Still no one has mentioned if yeast is good or bad for us, and whether it is a raw food. Thank you, Lane - Diana of Dewberry Hill rawfood Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:31 PM Re: [Raw Food] Supplements I tried Superfood a couple of times. Each time I got a headache, so I stopped...Lane Lane, do you understand the idea of detox from good cleansing food? Unless there is something in the the all natural food product that you are specifically allergic to, then I'd think it was doing you some good by stirring up the toxins to be flushed out. Diana of Dewberry Hill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 24, 2004 What about B12? That is the one thing that I supplement. I should probably get a actually test done someday. Maybe I don't need to supplement it. From what I've read a properly functioning system produces its own b12 in the lower gut. On Dec 23, 2004, at 3:34 PM, Rich Sachs wrote: > > > > I'm so happy eating whole, raw, fresh fruits and vegetables that I > don't even question the fact that I'm very healthy. From what I > understand there's a little of everything in everything, in other > words, virtually all fresh fruits and vegetables have some amount of > protein, calcium, etc. in them, and I'm sure my body is getting all > it needs of all the nutrients. Since I also believe that a simple > raw food diet is the way the human animal was created to eat. > > Rich > >> Diana of Dewberry Hill <cozad76078> wrote: >> Today is question day... >> Do we need to take supplements other than a good whole food > supplement like >> Super Food or the like? What about calcium/mag in particular? Yes I > know >> tahini has calcium and so do certain greens, but I don't always > juice or use >> sesame seeds daily, and it is easer to take a calcium pill. Some > say even >> the organic foods are from depleted soils and that we really need > extra >> nutrution in this day and age. What think ye? What do you use? > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 9, 2005 i've heard the b-12 scare talk for a long time too and I don't give a damn about it. if i just eat as much produce as i need each day i have faith that as a physical creature eating the way i believe this physical creature was designed to eat, that i'm getting all the nutrition i need. time will tell of course, but all the scare talk that raw fooders do about their diet seems silly to me compared to the pathetically sickeningly unhealthy SAD diet. you don't hear SAD eaters concerned that they're not getting all the nutrition they need and they're eating a completely pathetic diet. rich rawfood , " Susan " <sdmendell> wrote: > > > I apologize if this topic has already been discussed...I am new to > this group and to living foods in general. I am just wondering how > folks feel about supplements. After being a vegetarian for years, I > got tired of people telling me that I had to worry about not getting > enough B12 in my diet. So, I looked into buying a B12 supplement and > discovered that they were made out of seashells. And I am sure that > they weren't just seashells lying around the beach. Creatures were > most likely killed to get those shells. I heard that you could get > synthisized B12 somehwere, but how good could that be? Anyway, any > opinions will be appreciated. > Susan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 16, 2005 Not sure if this is neccessarily a bad thing. Way too many people worship the convenience of pill popping, instead of taking the time to think about their nutrition, and the pharmacutical companies just keep on churning them out. Maybe the EU should spend more time and effort in educating people in nutrition, and explain that not everyone needs to take so many suppliments, or are they in with the companies making the stuff? The Valley Vegan.......heartwerk <heartwork wrote: Verdict on EU vitamin ruling due Health food suppliers claim 5,000 products could be affected A European directive tightening rules on the sale of vitamins and food supplements could be overturned. The European Court of Justice is set to rule on whether the EU Food Supplements Directive, due to come into effect in August, unlawfully infringes trade. The rules would mean supplements could include vitamins and minerals taken only from an approved list and places limits on upper doses for vitamins. But health food suppliers say they threaten the sale of 5,000 products. The directive was approved by EU governments in 2002 and is designed to tighten controls on the growing market in products sold under the health food heading - natural remedies, vitamin supplements and mineral plant extracts. 'Too restrictive' The Alliance for Natural Health (ANH), the Health Food Manufacturers' Association (HFMA) and the National Association of Health Stores (NAHS) all oppose the plans. They argue the legislation is too restrictive, and will threaten thousands of perfectly safe products, containing more than 200 nutrients not on the approved list. This directive is based on inappropriate information David Adams After reviewing the evidence presented by both sides, European Court of Justice Advocate General Leendert Geelhoed said in April that the directive infringed legal guidelines in his opinion. If the appeal is upheld on Tuesday it would be only the fourth time an EU directive has been thrown out. The HFMA and NAHS argue the directive is an unlawful restriction on freedom to trade, that implementation would impose an unnecessary burden on British business and there are no reasons to believe it is necessary to protect consumers' welfare. They also say the directive violates the principle that decisions should be taken at the lowest practical level - in this case by competent authorities in the UK. David Adams, director of HFMA, said: "This directive is based on inappropriate information. "Not only has the 'positive' list of ingredients been developed from legislation originally intended for baby and infant foods but the method of adding to the list lacks transparency. "We hope the judges will follow the opinion of the Advocate-General and declare the directive invalid. "That will allow the thousands of safe and popular products at risk to continue to be used by the millions of UK consumers who value them." To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 17, 2005 I agree that people can overdo it. It is very unlikely to harm anyone though - not many of the supplements are harmful and most people who take amounts larger than the RDA read up on the supplements anyway. Very often it is easier to use a herbal tincture that is already made than to make your own, and of course, there is always the chance that you may pick the wrong plant and either poison yourself or it not have the effect desired. 90% of the time it is easy to do yourself, but for some people, and maybe many town people, it is easier and safer to buy the supplement. If the ruling had come about to help people I wouldn't mind, but it has happened because the big pharmaceutical companies realised they were missing out on profit and therefore want it regulated so that they can take on the business. Jo - peter hurd Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:17 AM Re: Supplements Not sure if this is neccessarily a bad thing. Way too many people worship the convenience of pill popping, instead of taking the time to think about their nutrition, and the pharmacutical companies just keep on churning them out. Maybe the EU should spend more time and effort in educating people in nutrition, and explain that not everyone needs to take so many suppliments, or are they in with the companies making the stuff? The Valley Vegan.......heartwerk <heartwork wrote: Verdict on EU vitamin ruling due Health food suppliers claim 5,000 products could be affected A European directive tightening rules on the sale of vitamins and food supplements could be overturned. The European Court of Justice is set to rule on whether the EU Food Supplements Directive, due to come into effect in August, unlawfully infringes trade. The rules would mean supplements could include vitamins and minerals taken only from an approved list and places limits on upper doses for vitamins. But health food suppliers say they threaten the sale of 5,000 products. The directive was approved by EU governments in 2002 and is designed to tighten controls on the growing market in products sold under the health food heading - natural remedies, vitamin supplements and mineral plant extracts. 'Too restrictive' The Alliance for Natural Health (ANH), the Health Food Manufacturers' Association (HFMA) and the National Association of Health Stores (NAHS) all oppose the plans. They argue the legislation is too restrictive, and will threaten thousands of perfectly safe products, containing more than 200 nutrients not on the approved list. This directive is based on inappropriate information David Adams After reviewing the evidence presented by both sides, European Court of Justice Advocate General Leendert Geelhoed said in April that the directive infringed legal guidelines in his opinion. If the appeal is upheld on Tuesday it would be only the fourth time an EU directive has been thrown out. The HFMA and NAHS argue the directive is an unlawful restriction on freedom to trade, that implementation would impose an unnecessary burden on British business and there are no reasons to believ e it is necessary to protect consumers' welfare. They also say the directive violates the principle that decisions should be taken at the lowest practical level - in this case by competent authorities in the UK. David Adams, director of HFMA, said: "This directive is based on inappropriate information. "Not only has the 'positive' list of ingredients been developed from legislation originally intended for baby and infant foods but the method of adding to the list lacks transparency. "We hope the judges will follow the opinion of the Advocate-General and declare the directive invalid. "That will allow the thousands of safe and popular products at risk to continue to be used by the millions of UK consumers who value them." To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 16, 2010 If you are trying to get pregnant, my midwife told me to start taking a good prenatal before you get pregnant to build up nutrients. Especially folic acid. ~Anna In a message dated 2/16/2010 1:19:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sherryzarif writes: Hi everyone, New vegan mom here. Just wanted to know if anyone uses supplements such as a multi-V, B12, Vid D, DHA and etc..if so which kind. This would really help because I don't know what to give my child and also I don't know what to take for myself. We are trying to get pregnant again and I want to make sure I'm doing everything right. Thank you Sherry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 16, 2010 We just take a daily mutli-vitamin. The adults take Schiff's vegetarian vitamin and there are two that I take turns purchasing for the kids... animal parade and Michael's homeopathic. From what I've gathered, the most important thing you should be doing if you want to get pregnant again is to take a daily dose of folic acid. Jacqueline Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Howdy Sherry, I'm a vegan mom of four vegan babes. I give them the VegLife Vegan Kids Multiple. As, for myself and hubby, we just take the VegLife Vegan B-12 Lozenge. Alaina Sent from my iPhone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Hi, Does everyone on here take multivitamins? It has always been in my opinion that if you can't get it from your food there is something wrong with the food your eating. Why does everyone use them? Is it precautionary? Ange On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM, <annab9 wrote: > > > If you are trying to get pregnant, my midwife told me to start taking a > good prenatal before you get pregnant to build up nutrients. Especially > folic acid. > ~Anna > > > In a message dated 2/16/2010 1:19:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > sherryzarif <sherryzarif%40.ca> writes: > > Hi everyone, > > New vegan mom here. Just wanted to know if anyone uses supplements such as > a multi-V, B12, Vid D, DHA and etc..if so which kind. This would really > help because I don't know what to give my child and also I don't know what > to > take for myself. We are trying to get pregnant again and I want to make > sure I'm doing everything right. > > Thank you > > Sherry > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 17, 2010 Yes, precautionary for us... most health professionals seem to recommend taking a daily multi-vitamin, so we do so just in case we are missing anything. I figure it can't hurt to make sure the bases are covered. Jacqueline Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2010 I have been hearing things lately about the dangers of folic acid supplementation. This is an example of something (folate) that is better obtained through diet. Here are some details from Dr. Fuhrman. http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/vitamins-supplements-dr-fuhrman-warns-do-no\ t-take-multivitamins-or-prenatal-vitamins-that-contain-folic-acid.html <http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/vitamins-supplements-dr-fuhrman-warns-do-n\ ot-take-multivitamins-or-prenatal-vitamins-that-contain-folic-acid.html> Cheers, Mark On 16 February 2010 16:22, Jacqueline Bodnar <jbwrote: > > > > > We just take a daily mutli-vitamin. The adults take Schiff's vegetarian > vitamin and there are two that I take turns purchasing for the kids... > animal parade and Michael's homeopathic. From what I've gathered, the > most important thing you should be doing if you want to get pregnant > again is to take a daily dose of folic acid. > > Jacqueline > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2010 We use supplements because we believe that the quality of the soil has gone down over the years. B12 and a multi are the main supplements we use. Occasionally, magnesium or zinc. Laura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2010 Hi Laura, Can you tell me the brand of supplements you use for yourself and the kids. This would really help. Thanks for the advice. , VAP79 wrote: > > We use supplements because we believe that the quality of the soil has gone down over the years. > B12 and a multi are the main supplements we use. Occasionally, magnesium or zinc. > Laura > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites