Guest guest Report post Posted January 16, 2003 Well, that's great ;=) Supplements may or may not be absolutely necessary for vegetarians but my understanding is that they are generally needed for vegans - just to be sure, I guess. I've been looking for vegan sources for some things found in dairy, but most nutritionists say that vegetable sources of B12, for example, aren't good enough. Which really raises the question of how vegans in parts of the world where they can't get supplements (or vegans a couple of centuries ago) managed. best, pat The Stewarts wrote: > Well, he chews a vitamin supplement every week or so, thus obviating any > concern. > > My wife monitors him pretty well, and in fact we eat many Vegan meals > anyway -- it's usually just as easy to make something Vegan. We had > lovely sausage chili last night, for instance, that was Vegan. Yum. -- PAT (In London, Ontario) Email List: townhounds- (townhounds/) Personal Email: SANTBROWN Personal Webpage: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " - Albert Schweitzer * " Don't be afraid. Just start the tape. " - Anne Rice * " I don't do pawprints. " -- Snoopy ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 4, 2004 In a message dated 8/4/2004 4:17:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes: Do you advise taking any supplements? If so, which ones and why. Thank you. I use tocotrienols powder as an ingredient! It's loaded with antioxidants and has a sweet taste. It's considered raw. I sprinkle it on blueberries along with some coconut oil. Yum! Judy editor/founder/designer www.rawfoodsnewsmagazine.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 5, 2004 I use juice plus for myself and my family. It is the nutrition of 17 different fruits and veggies in a capsule, gummy, or chewable form. They also have a deal where kids between 6 to 15 can get theirs for free. It is processed in such a way that it does not kill the enzymes, so even if you aren't eating some of the produce that is in there you are still getting the nutrition. I just feel it is a good balance for me and my family. Also it makes me feel better that my son gets that stability each and every day. Although he is mostly raw also. You can check out the website if you want more info at www.juiceplus.com/+dj73561 Denise ______________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2004 > Do you advise taking any supplements? If so, which ones and why. > Thank you. I think blue green algae is a good supplement for most on a raw food diet because of the added B-12 and many more benefits depending on the type you choose. Vitamin C is sometimes needed in extra doses and I read on a raw site that the acerola cherry (hope I got that right) was the most absorbable. Jenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2004 I think blue green algae is a good supplement for most on a raw food diet because of the added B-12 and many more benefits depending on the type you choose. [Roger H.] Blue Green Algae has vitamin B12 analogues in it. It unfortunately isn't a good source of B12. It will actually block the absorption of B12. To read more about this check out Dr. Cousens newsletter. I believe he discusses this and several other issues related to B12 here at this link. http://www.treeoflife.nu/ewb12.html Vitamin C is sometimes needed in extra doses and I read on a raw site that the acerola cherry (hope I got that right) was the most absorbable. [Roger H.] If you eat a raw diet high in fruits the most abundant nutrient you get naturally is Vitamin C. There are problems associated with taking excess levels of vitamin C in supplement form. I daily get 1,000 to 2,000 percent of the US RDA of vitamin C just by what I eat. I suppose you could take more if you thought there were some kind of benefit to it. But be careful of taking mass doses of vitamins in supplement form. To Your Radiant Health and Happiness, Roger Haeske Are you having trouble staying 100% raw? Are you sick of the time consuming effort of having to sprout, dehydrate and ferment your foods? Are you afraid of eating fruit? Discover the simple secrets to raw food success from Radiant Health and Peak Performance Coach, Roger Haeske. http://www.SuperbeingDiet.com for more info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 7, 2004 Blue Green Algae has vitamin B12 analogues in it. It unfortunately isn't a good source of B12. It will actually block the absorption of B12. To read more about this check out Dr. Cousens newsletter. I believe he discusses this and several other issues related to B12 here at this link. http://www.treeoflife.nu/ewb12.html <snip> Before I go express my anger at my school (Clayton college) about not adding an update to the course I just finished with the text being Consious Eating, let me thank you for this. (E-mail me directly please at zen) with brand suggestions and added info on this too on what supplement is good for adults and what is good for children. Anyways, I thought I was getting the most updated information through my school, but apprently not. On the vitamin c issue, I still think supplementing it when sick is a good thing, and I use whole food supplements. Thanks, Jenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Hi Katie, Thank you so much for your kind words. I'm so glad when someone " gets it " ! Unfortunately, the real basics about health are not widely available--there's no money in health!--so most people never hear of it, and most of what we are taught is propaganda from the industries that seek to profit. Yet health is so simple! It is what we have by default if we don't screw it up. This is such basic truth, and I am happy that you would like to share it with others-- please do so freely! All the best, Zsuzsa rawfood , Katie Hartley <kattilily> wrote: > > I found your info on supplements wonderful!...Would you mind if I printed out your writing to show to others interested? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:30:18AM -0800, Diana of Dewberry Hill wrote: > > Today is question day... > Do we need to take supplements other than a good whole food supplement like Super Food or the like? What about calcium/mag in particular? Yes I know tahini has calcium and so do certain greens, but I don't always juice or use sesame seeds daily, and it is easer to take a calcium pill. Some say even the organic foods are from depleted soils and that we really need extra nutrution in this day and age. What think ye? What do you use? If the plant doesn't have all the minerals it needs it wont grow. I think that is a myth. I take superfood, too. I feel it insures my b12 needs. I don't think it is easier to take a pill. For me it's easier to just get calcium from the food I already eat. Almonds are one of my sources. Why bother with pills. I consider superfood more of a actual food than a suppliment. Have you gotten used to the taste of superfood? I still think it taste horrible. My dogs love it. They are %100 raw. Their staple is raw chicken. I follow the BARF (bones and raw food) program to some extent. I would have thought they would have hated superfood, we all bet on whether or not they'd eat it before we gave it to them, most of us thought they would not drink it. We mixed it up put it in two bowls and both dogs drank it up and seemed to want more. If instinctive eating is a good sign then that is a good thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 " johnd " , thanks for your reply. No I never get used to the taste of the Super Food...but know it's good. One obese gal drank only super food for a year and got it " right " . BTW I get mine from HEAL (Schultz students who have their own organization) much cheaper and in bulk. Always looking for that elixir that is better than S.F. for a good price. Been thinking of adding Barley Green juice again. I love to juice but cannot often. Freeze dried juices (carrot and beet from Aim ) are good to have. Always looking for that elixir that is better than S.F. for a good price. Saw that one that someone posted with a list longer than what I used to owe...but figured it was too costly and may not combine right inside with everything but the kitchen sink in it. I like the KISS method, but don't want to forget what's needed. D of DH Meet the all-new My – Try it today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:06:30AM -0800, Diana of Dewberry Hill wrote: > > " johnd " , thanks for your reply. No I never get used to the taste of the Super Food...but know it's good. One obese gal drank only super food for a year and got it " right " . BTW I get mine from HEAL (Schultz students who have their own organization) much cheaper and in bulk. Always looking for that elixir that is better than S.F. for a good price. Been thinking of adding Barley Green juice again. I love to juice but cannot often. Freeze dried juices (carrot and beet from Aim ) are good to have. Always looking for that elixir that is better than S.F. for a good price. Saw that one that someone posted with a list longer than what I used to owe...but figured it was too costly and may not combine right inside with everything but the kitchen sink in it. I like the KISS method, but don't want to forget what's needed. > I don't think powdered juices have all the same stuff as freash juice. I mean I would never consider powdered juice as a replacement for freash. When I make juice I even feel that it is best to drink it as soon as possible after extracting it. I just found the HEAL website. You pay 28 instead of 30 or do you have a better price? Thanks for the ref. I didn't now superfood was available anywhere else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 What is Super Food? Thanks...Valerie johnd <john wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:> Do we need to take supplements other than a good whole food supplement like Super Food or the like? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 wow, I just found the section on the HEAL website for superfood in bulk thanks a lot, this is going to save me a lot of money, I'm probably going to buy it by the 10lb bag. At this price I'll be giving more to my dogs, too Where I live, we all chip in on our groceries and we consider stuff like this groceries. There was some arguments in my household about somepeople not wanting to give it to the dogs. I was saying we should and my roomates where saying its too expensive. This should settle that. This is great news. On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:25:30AM -0800, johnd wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:06:30AM -0800, Diana of Dewberry Hill wrote: > > > > " johnd " , thanks for your reply. No I never get used to the taste of the Super Food...but know it's good. One obese gal drank only super food for a year and got it " right " . BTW I get mine from HEAL (Schultz students who have their own organization) much cheaper and in bulk. Always looking for that elixir that is better than S.F. for a good price. Been thinking of adding Barley Green juice again. I love to juice but cannot often. Freeze dried juices (carrot and beet from Aim ) are good to have. Always looking for that elixir that is better than S.F. for a good price. Saw that one that someone posted with a list longer than what I used to owe...but figured it was too costly and may not combine right inside with everything but the kitchen sink in it. I like the KISS method, but don't want to forget what's needed. > > > > I don't think powdered juices have all the same stuff as freash juice. I mean > I would never consider powdered juice as a replacement for freash. When I > make juice I even feel that it is best to drink it as soon as possible after > extracting it. > > > I just found the HEAL website. You pay 28 instead of 30 or do you have a > better price? > > Thanks for the ref. I didn't now superfood was available anywhere else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 It is a mix of different herbs and stuff check it out at herbdoc.com and http://www.healmarketplace.com/marketplace/cat1.htm#Foundational the second link has better prices and lets you buy in bulk I just found out about heal from Diana they have everything I get way cheaper in bulk I also buy 'detox' tea On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:26:49AM -0800, Valerie Mills Daly wrote: > > What is Super Food? > > Thanks...Valerie > > johnd <john wrote: > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:> Do we need to take supplements other than a good whole food supplement like Super Food or the like? > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 Thank you, John, appreciate it. I'll check it out. Peace, Valerie johnd <john wrote: It is a mix of different herbs and stuff check it out at herbdoc.com and http://www.healmarketplace.com/marketplace/cat1.htm#Foundational the second link has better prices and lets you buy in bulk I just found out about heal from Diana they have everything I get way cheaper in bulk Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 I tried Superfood a couple of times. Each time I got a headache, so I stopped. Is it bad that it is in yeast? I would appreciate knowing. By the way Valerie, mine is from Dr. Schultze at 1 800 HERB DOC. Thanks Lane - Valerie Mills Daly rawfood Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:26 PM Re: [Raw Food] Supplements What is Sper Food? Thanks...Valerie johnd <john wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:> Do we need to take supplements other than a good whole food supplement like Super Food or the like? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 wow. Five pounds of super food! Does it keep? Lane - Valerie Mills Daly rawfood Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:37 PM Re: [Raw Food] Supplements Thank you, John, appreciate it. I'll check it out. Peace, Valerie johnd <john wrote: It is a mix of different herbs and stuff check it out at herbdoc.com and http://www.healmarketplace.com/marketplace/cat1.htm#Foundational the second link has better prices and lets you buy in bulk I just found out about heal from Diana they have everything I get way cheaper in bulk Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 I tried Superfood a couple of times. Each time I got a headache, so I stopped...Lane Lane, do you understand the idea of detox from good cleansing food? Unless there is something in the the all natural food product that you are specifically allergic to, then I'd think it was doing you some good by stirring up the toxins to be flushed out. Diana of Dewberry Hill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Hi, Lane, I went to the link that John sent earlier and read the ingredients. There is algae and seaweed as part of the ingredients, and that might be contributing to headache for you. I know that is a source of reactions for me; I can't do sea foods at all. So I won't be experimenting with Super Foods in the future, I guess, LOL! Also, I avoid yeasts entirely. Peace, Valerie lane lynn <lanie wrote: I tried Superfood a couple of times. Each time I got a headache, so I stopped. Is it bad that it is in yeast? I would appreciate knowing. By the way Valerie, mine is from Dr. Schultze at 1 800 HERB DOC. Thanks Lane - Valerie Mills Daly rawfood Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:26 PM Re: [Raw Food] Supplements What is Sper Food? Thanks...Valerie johnd <john wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:> Do we need to take supplements other than a good whole food supplement like Super Food or the like? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Yes Diana I understand the idea of detox. But with the super food I am not sure it is detox, as much as tox. Still no one has mentioned if yeast is good or bad for us, and whether it is a raw food. Thank you, Lane - Diana of Dewberry Hill rawfood Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:31 PM Re: [Raw Food] Supplements I tried Superfood a couple of times. Each time I got a headache, so I stopped...Lane Lane, do you understand the idea of detox from good cleansing food? Unless there is something in the the all natural food product that you are specifically allergic to, then I'd think it was doing you some good by stirring up the toxins to be flushed out. Diana of Dewberry Hill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Thank you Valerie. That is helpful I han't thought about the algaie and seeweed. I had just focused on the yeast. Lane - " Valerie Mills Daly " <valdaly <rawfood > Wednesday, December 22, 2004 7:48 PM Re: [Raw Food] Supplements Hi, Lane, I went to the link that John sent earlier and read the ingredients. There is algae and seaweed as part of the ingredients, and that might be contributing to headache for you. I know that is a source of reactions for me; I can't do sea foods at all. So I won't be experimenting with Super Foods in the future, I guess, LOL! Also, I avoid yeasts entirely. Peace, Valerie lane lynn <lanie wrote: I tried Superfood a couple of times. Each time I got a headache, so I stopped. Is it bad that it is in yeast? I would appreciate knowing. By the way Valerie, mine is from Dr. Schultze at 1 800 HERB DOC. Thanks Lane - Valerie Mills Daly rawfood Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:26 PM Re: [Raw Food] Supplements What is Sper Food? Thanks...Valerie johnd <john wrote: On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:> Do we need to take supplements other than a good whole food supplement like Super Food or the like? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:52:56AM -0800, johnd wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:30:18AM -0800, Diana of Dewberry Hill wrote: > > > > Today is question day... > > Do we need to take supplements other than a good whole food supplement like Super Food or the like? What about calcium/mag in particular? Yes I know tahini has calcium and so do certain greens, but I don't always juice or use sesame seeds daily, and it is easer to take a calcium pill. Some say even the organic foods are from depleted soils and that we really need extra nutrution in this day and age. What think ye? What do you use? > > If the plant doesn't have all the minerals it needs it wont grow. I think > that is a myth. > I responded earlier and when I read my response I can see that it didn't come across like I wanted it to. To clarify: I was saying that I think a plant wont grow if it doesn't have all the minerals it needs and that it is a myth that plants these days don't have all the minerals in them not the other way around... When I read my mail, it sounded like I was saying the opposite... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 We take alot. There are many consumers in my household. On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 03:50:53PM -0500, lane lynn wrote: > > wow. Five pounds of super food! Does it keep? Lane Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 03:34:55PM -0500, lane lynn wrote: > > > I tried Superfood a couple of times. Each time I got a headache, so I stopped. Is it bad that it is in yeast? I would appreciate knowing. By the way Valerie, mine is from Dr. Schultze at 1 800 HERB DOC. Thanks Lane Why do you wonder if yeast is bad? Have you ever heard this before? I always thought it was a great source of b12 and generaly health. but then again that is what I used to think about soy (not the b12 part but the healthy part) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Valerie are there specific ingredients in the algae and seaweed that may contribute to headaches for some people? And how does yeast fit into all of this? I'm not familiar with either plant. rawfood , Valerie Mills Daly <valdaly> wrote: >Hi, Lane, There is algae and seaweed as part of the ingredients, and >that might be contributing to headache for you. I know that is a >source of reactions for me; I can't do sea foods at all. So I won't >be experimenting with Super Foods in the future, I guess, LOL! Also, >I avoid yeasts entirely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Valerie, You are right on Target for the rest of the world as well. i.e. Soil depletion is a hot topic, and widely disputed Take a look at the site www.nobelprize.org and see who won yesterday. Quite an incredible woman. Stunning mind, and even greater deeds for all human beings on the planet, especially in AFRICA. Sasha ---- rawfood 12/22/04 11:12:00 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Supplements The only supplement I use is something called BarleyMax, and that is mainly because I have a big supply to use up; don't want to throw it away! When it is gone, I will discontinue use for a while to see if it really makes any difference. Soil depletion is a hot topic, and widely disputed. RE: supplements in general; from most sources I've encountered (except for those promoting and selling supplements), there seems to be some agreement that most are not useable by the body in the form provided; that is why it is so important to eat a wide variety of fruits and vegetables, because the minerals and vitamins we need come in a useable form via these foods. Peace, Valerie Diana of Dewberry Hill <cozad76078 wrote: Today is question day... Do we need to take supplements other than a good whole food supplement like Super Food or the like? What about calcium/mag in particular? Yes I know tahini has calcium and so do certain greens, but I don't always juice or use sesame seeds daily, and it is easer to take a calcium pill. Some say even the organic foods are from depleted soils and that we really need extra nutrution in this day and age. What think ye? What do you use? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
