Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2003 HUH????? every soy milk I have ever bought has said " use within 7 days of opening " ..........so does the almond milk........I am forever throwing out what I didn't finish in a week! Laurie wrote: > IMHO, the best part about soy milk is it keeps so much longer than > cow's milk. I had stopped drinking milk altogether because it was > always going bad before I could drink it. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2003 I have Vanilla Sun Soy. It says it will stay fresh in the frig for up to 7-10 days HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig. - Pixx Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:02 PM Re: Re: soy milk HUH????? every soy milk I have ever bought has said " use within 7 days of opening " ..........so does the almond milk........I am forever throwing out what I didn't finish in a week! Laurie wrote: > IMHO, the best part about soy milk is it keeps so much longer than > cow's milk. I had stopped drinking milk altogether because it was > always going bad before I could drink it. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2003 when I did drink milk......I had 2% over ice. and yeah, most people thought it was sick!! Pacific Almond milk is kinda thin. Try that. It has a bit of a texture though. ~Pixx Sherri wrote: > - I actually drink skim milk over ice, which makes most people > ill to even think about. LOL > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2003 Me too. Soy milk also is easier on the sinuses, although to be truthful we rarely use either milk or soymilk - I guess we just got outta the habit ;=) But I wanted to ask about your kitten - our cat loves tofu, but I haven't tried him on soymilk - I wonder . . . He eats a carnivore's diet (kibble only - he *hates* wet/canned catfood, regardless of brand). Have you been able to put your kitten/cat on a veggie diet? Best, Pat -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " - Immanuel Kant * " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2003 *LOL* I don't want to seem to be picking an argument or criticizing or anything, but why oh why is it that, apart from conditioning/indoctrination, we feel we must drink milk at all - including 'soy' milk??? There are other things to drink out there, such as good clean water or mineral water, fruit juice of many kinds, herbal teas, not to mention tea and coffee and beer and wine ;=) Although I still call myself ovo-lacto vegetarian (cuz I can't quite call myself vegan), I was ovo-lacto veg for ages and ages but *never* drank milk. Used it in cooking? Yes, occasionally. But not as a beverage. Of course, we don't use packaged breakfast cereal either, so don't 'need' it to make that edible. But I know people who put apple juice on cereal anyway ;=) To answer your query about soy milk being too rich, however *LOL* Can you get the *lite* soymilk where you are? It's much less cloying - and over ice it might just work. Otherwise, add filtered water to it to make it less rich - find a ratio that works for you ;=) I find it interesting - without meaning to denigrate anyone's attempts at finding vegan substitutes for carnivore foods - that the Dairy Industry still in effect 'regulates' what vegetarians and vegans think we should consume and so 'alternative' culture provides non-dairy versions of certain things - which often are found wanting. Best, Pat > > I " ve been drinking skim milk for most of my life, and when I tried to > switch to soy milk I found it incredibly rich and thick - so much so > that I couldn't stomach it. Any suggestions about how to get around > this? Was it something you noticed when switching? Or maybe I'm just > weird - I actually drink skim milk over ice, which makes most people ill > to even think about. LOL > -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " - Immanuel Kant * " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2003 so, what do you suggest for cooking? certainly not coffee, tea, or beer! Of course, all of those *can* be used in cooking, but not in recipies calling for milk. ~Pixx On 29 May 2003 at 8:13, Sant & Brown wrote: > I find it interesting - without meaning to denigrate anyone's attempts > at finding vegan substitutes for carnivore foods - that the Dairy > Industry still in effect 'regulates' what vegetarians and vegans think > we should consume and so 'alternative' culture provides non-dairy > versions of certain things - which often are found wanting. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2003 Milk can cause stuffy sinuses? I bet that's why I've always been so stuffy. I always thought it was allergies to pollen and dust. ~Janice~ HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig. - Sant & Brown Thursday, May 29, 2003 6:42 AM Re:soy milk Me too. Soy milk also is easier on the sinuses, although to be truthful we rarely use either milk or soymilk - I guess we just got outta the habit ;=) But I wanted to ask about your kitten - our cat loves tofu, but I haven't tried him on soymilk - I wonder . . . He eats a carnivore's diet (kibble only - he *hates* wet/canned catfood, regardless of brand). Have you been able to put your kitten/cat on a veggie diet? Best, Pat -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " - Immanuel Kant * " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 29, 2003 My " allergies " to pollen, etc. all but went away when I stopped consuming dairy..........I *rarely* have any problems with it.......I sneeze only a few times a year......really! ~Pixx On 29 May 2003 at 22:51, ~Janice Macak~ wrote: > Milk can cause stuffy sinuses? I bet that's why I've always been so > stuffy. I always thought it was allergies to pollen and dust. ~Janice~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 Sant & Brown <santbrown@l...> wrote: > *LOL* I don't want to seem to be picking an argument or criticizing or > anything, but why oh why is it that, apart from > conditioning/indoctrination, we feel we must drink milk at all - > including 'soy' milk??? There are other things to drink out there, such > as good clean water or mineral water, fruit juice of many kinds, herbal > teas, not to mention tea and coffee and beer and wine ;=) I don't know about anyone else, but I drink milk because I love the taste. *shrug* I'd rather have an ice cold glass of milk than just about any other beverage I can think of. I don't drink coffee (hate the taste) and rarely drink tea (even the " soothing " ones jazz me right up), but steamed milk is my beverage of choice when I want something hot and soothing. Again, this is simply because I love how it tastes, especially with just a dash of almond syrup in it. I drink a lot of water as well, and a couple of glasses of juice every day. I drink soft drinks, but don't really drink alcoholic beverages, other than maybe 2 or 3 glasses of wine /year with dinner. When I run out of milk (often) I really miss it. As for why I've tried replacing it, it's simply because I've read reports that indicate that it may not be the best thing out there for me to drink. So, I don't want to miss the taste, but if I can have what I crave while minimizing the health risks, then I'm all for trying. > To answer your query about soy milk being too rich, however *LOL* Can > you get the *lite* soymilk where you are? I've never noticed it (and if I did I probably thought it meant calorie reduced or something like that, not thinner), but I'm sure if it's out there I can get it. That's one significant benefit of living in the NYC metro area. :-) I'll check the aisles next time I'm shopping. Thanks for the suggestions -- Sherri If you think sex is a pain in the ass, try different position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 Why milk? Same reason why soymilk, by cereal or glass, both are delicious. Even my picky, picky children will happily consume a glass of frosty soymilk, and they don't even drink milk by the glass. (One battle down, 9,999,999,999 to go.) Peace. Sant & Brown <santbrown wrote: *LOL* I don't want to seem to be picking an argument or criticizing or anything, but why oh why is it that, apart from conditioning/indoctrination, we feel we must drink milk at all - including 'soy' milk??? There are other things to drink out there, such as good clean water or mineral water, fruit juice of many kinds, herbal teas, not to mention tea and coffee and beer and wine ;=) Although I still call myself ovo-lacto vegetarian (cuz I can't quite call myself vegan), I was ovo-lacto veg for ages and ages but *never* drank milk. Used it in cooking? Yes, occasionally. But not as a beverage. Of course, we don't use packaged breakfast cereal either, so don't 'need' it to make that edible. But I know people who put apple juice on cereal anyway ;=) To answer your query about soy milk being too rich, however *LOL* Can you get the *lite* soymilk where you are? It's much less cloying - and over ice it might just work. Otherwise, add filtered water to it to make it less rich - find a ratio that works for you ;=) I find it interesting - without meaning to denigrate anyone's attempts at finding vegan substitutes for carnivore foods - that the Dairy Industry still in effect 'regulates' what vegetarians and vegans think we should consume and so 'alternative' culture provides non-dairy versions of certain things - which often are found wanting. Best, Pat > > I " ve been drinking skim milk for most of my life, and when I tried to > switch to soy milk I found it incredibly rich and thick - so much so > that I couldn't stomach it. Any suggestions about how to get around > this? Was it something you noticed when switching? Or maybe I'm just > weird - I actually drink skim milk over ice, which makes most people ill > to even think about. LOL > -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " - Immanuel Kant * " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 I haven't had any dairy in a few days. Hopefully the stuffy nose will clear up. ~Janice~ HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig. - Pixx Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:10 PM Re: Re:soy milk My " allergies " to pollen, etc. all but went away when I stopped consuming dairy..........I *rarely* have any problems with it.......I sneeze only a few times a year......really! ~Pixx On 29 May 2003 at 22:51, ~Janice Macak~ wrote: > Milk can cause stuffy sinuses? I bet that's why I've always been so > stuffy. I always thought it was allergies to pollen and dust. ~Janice~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 No, if your kids are ADD you have more then that many battles to go. ~Janice~ HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig. - Raven Peters Friday, May 30, 2003 4:14 AM Re: Re: Soy Milk Why milk? Same reason why soymilk, by cereal or glass, both are delicious. Even my picky, picky children will happily consume a glass of frosty soymilk, and they don't even drink milk by the glass. (One battle down, 9,999,999,999 to go.) Peace. Sant & Brown <santbrown wrote: *LOL* I don't want to seem to be picking an argument or criticizing or anything, but why oh why is it that, apart from conditioning/indoctrination, we feel we must drink milk at all - including 'soy' milk??? There are other things to drink out there, such as good clean water or mineral water, fruit juice of many kinds, herbal teas, not to mention tea and coffee and beer and wine ;=) Although I still call myself ovo-lacto vegetarian (cuz I can't quite call myself vegan), I was ovo-lacto veg for ages and ages but *never* drank milk. Used it in cooking? Yes, occasionally. But not as a beverage. Of course, we don't use packaged breakfast cereal either, so don't 'need' it to make that edible. But I know people who put apple juice on cereal anyway ;=) To answer your query about soy milk being too rich, however *LOL* Can you get the *lite* soymilk where you are? It's much less cloying - and over ice it might just work. Otherwise, add filtered water to it to make it less rich - find a ratio that works for you ;=) I find it interesting - without meaning to denigrate anyone's attempts at finding vegan substitutes for carnivore foods - that the Dairy Industry still in effect 'regulates' what vegetarians and vegans think we should consume and so 'alternative' culture provides non-dairy versions of certain things - which often are found wanting. Best, Pat > > I " ve been drinking skim milk for most of my life, and when I tried to > switch to soy milk I found it incredibly rich and thick - so much so > that I couldn't stomach it. Any suggestions about how to get around > this? Was it something you noticed when switching? Or maybe I'm just > weird - I actually drink skim milk over ice, which makes most people ill > to even think about. LOL > -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " - Immanuel Kant * " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 > so, what do you suggest for cooking? certainly not coffee, tea, or > beer! > > Of course, all of those *can* be used in cooking, but not in recipies > calling for milk. Well, yes, of course soymilk in cooking ;=) - that's what I wrote: > Used it in cooking? Yes, occasionally. But not as a beverage. Sorry, I thought that was clear :=( Perhaps there is confusion here over 'drinking' milk - as a beverage, as a drink out of a mug or a glass - as opposed to using it or its substitute soymilk in cooking? I meant what I said, I was not really *not* trying to be difficult - nor was I asking to be made ridiculous. My point, if it has not been lost by now, is that soooo many people were brought up to drink milk - real milk from cows or goats - way past the time when they needed it for health. So you see grown-up people ordering a sandwich, say, and a glass of milk in a cafe. (Fair enough if they like it. It's probably better than most softdrinks.) The dairy lobby has also encouraged us to put a lot of dairy in our day to day cooking - and so in making a vegan recipe we substitute soy. If, however, you look away from the North American diet to, say, the Asian diet - and there are others, of course - you won't find a preponderance of milk dishes. In some there is yoghurt, of course (many Indian meals contain yoghurt), but there is generally less reliance on milk in other parts of the world. As a corollary to this, I find myself that it is more enjoyable to look for recipes *without* meat or meat substitutes and *without* dairy substitutes than to adapt a recipe. I am a successful adapter, but it is unnecessary. That way I never have to make the comparison between a vegetarian or vegan meal and 'the real thing' - and my guests get to enjoy the meals cooked in this household for what they are rather for what they are not. Btw, beer is *great* in chilli - but never milk, of course *LOL* Best, Pat -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " - Immanuel Kant * " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 Yup, this is me, too [except, trying to minimize animal harm as well, for me]. I have really enjoyed the Pacific brand Almond milk. and since you already like almond syrup in your milk, it may seem familiar to you [?]. On 30 May 2003 at 2:23, Sherri wrote: > As for why I've tried replacing it, it's simply because I've read > reports that indicate that it may not be the best thing out there for > me to drink. So, I don't want to miss the taste, but if I can have > what I crave while minimizing the health risks, then I'm all for > trying. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 I always liked the taste of milk too. The reason I switched to skin milk is because of all the calories in 2 %. I like the taste in the skim better though. But I'm not going to drink it anymore. I just found a brand of soy milk called Sun Soy. I like it. I think I'm going to try the chocolate today. It's got the D2 vitamin in it to. I just checked. Janice ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused. - Pixx Friday, May 30, 2003 11:28 AM Re: Re: Soy milk Yup, this is me, too [except, trying to minimize animal harm as well, for me]. I have really enjoyed the Pacific brand Almond milk. and since you already like almond syrup in your milk, it may seem familiar to you [?]. On 30 May 2003 at 2:23, Sherri wrote: > As for why I've tried replacing it, it's simply because I've read > reports that indicate that it may not be the best thing out there for > me to drink. So, I don't want to miss the taste, but if I can have > what I crave while minimizing the health risks, then I'm all for > trying. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 I drink it because water is not good on cereal Laurie Sant & Brown <santbrown@l...> wrote: > *LOL* I don't want to seem to be picking an argument or criticizing or > anything, but why oh why is it that, apart from > conditioning/indoctrination, we feel we must drink milk at all - > including 'soy' milk??? There are other things to drink out there, such > as good clean water or mineral water, fruit juice of many kinds, herbal > teas, not to mention tea and coffee and beer and wine ;=) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 Milk also thickens nasal secretions. I'm the opposite, so I drink it when my allergies act up Laurie , " ~Janice Macak~ " <serenity1@m...> wrote: > Milk can cause stuffy sinuses? I bet that's why I've always been so stuffy. I always thought it was allergies to pollen and dust. > ~Janice~ > HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 > But I wanted to ask about your kitten - our cat loves tofu, but I > haven't tried him on soymilk - I wonder . . . He eats a carnivore's > diet (kibble only - he *hates* wet/canned catfood, regardless of > brand). Have you been able to put your kitten/cat on a veggie diet? > Right now I have a mental image of two very-confused kittens staring at a plate of creamed spinach Actually, they get mostly kibble and water. Boris has a weight problem, but I let Josie try a taste of things now and then. I wonder if she'd like tofu. Laurie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 Laurie <laitaina wrote: > But I wanted to ask about your kitten - our cat loves tofu, but I > haven't tried him on soymilk - I wonder . . . He eats a carnivore's > diet (kibble only - he *hates* wet/canned catfood, regardless of > brand). Have you been able to put your kitten/cat on a veggie diet? > Right now I have a mental image of two very-confused kittens staring at a plate of creamed spinach Actually, they get mostly kibble and water. Boris has a weight problem, but I let Josie try a taste of things now and then. I wonder if she'd like tofu. Laurie My very carnivorish 20lb mini-panther WILL westle me to the ground for a leaf of fresh spinach. I am afraid to give him to much due to the oxylic (sp) acids in it, but figure a leaf or two won't hurt. Peace Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 ~Janice Macak~ <serenity1 wrote: I haven't had any dairy in a few days. Hopefully the stuffy nose will clear up. ~Janice~ HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig. - Pixx Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:10 PM Re: Re:soy milk My " allergies " to pollen, etc. all but went away when I stopped consuming dairy..........I *rarely* have any problems with it.......I sneeze only a few times a year......really! ~Pixx On 29 May 2003 at 22:51, ~Janice Macak~ wrote: > Milk can cause stuffy sinuses? I bet that's why I've always been so > stuffy. I always thought it was allergies to pollen and dust. ~Janice~ I suffer from horrible allergies. Did a year of allergy shots to help. Four shots a week and I am terrified of needles. It did help, somewhat. When they did the test to find out what I am allergic to, it came up everything that grows, pollinates, hangs out in moist environments, has furr, you know, life. ACK! My doctor said get rid of cats, dogs, carpets, excess surfaces, anything that attracts dust. (There's my big chance to get rid of the kids-but I let it get away). I have noticed that when I take away the dairy, the allergies lighten up. But cheese is one of the few protein sources I can sneak in my children, I have to drive an hour to find decent, affordable soymilk and I LIKE ICE CREAM!!!! Whine whine whine So I sniffle. <Sniff> Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 I got some of the chocolate Sun Soy. It taste great!! Janice ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused. - ~Janice Macak~ Friday, May 30, 2003 12:29 PM Re: Re: Soy milk I always liked the taste of milk too. The reason I switched to skin milk is because of all the calories in 2 %. I like the taste in the skim better though. But I'm not going to drink it anymore. I just found a brand of soy milk called Sun Soy. I like it. I think I'm going to try the chocolate today. It's got the D2 vitamin in it to. I just checked. Janice ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused. - Pixx Friday, May 30, 2003 11:28 AM Re: Re: Soy milk Yup, this is me, too [except, trying to minimize animal harm as well, for me]. I have really enjoyed the Pacific brand Almond milk. and since you already like almond syrup in your milk, it may seem familiar to you [?]. On 30 May 2003 at 2:23, Sherri wrote: > As for why I've tried replacing it, it's simply because I've read > reports that indicate that it may not be the best thing out there for > me to drink. So, I don't want to miss the taste, but if I can have > what I crave while minimizing the health risks, then I'm all for > trying. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 I drink it because it taste great. Especially the chocolate!! Janice ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused. - Laurie Friday, May 30, 2003 1:52 PM Re: Soy milk I drink it because water is not good on cereal Laurie Sant & Brown <santbrown@l...> wrote: > *LOL* I don't want to seem to be picking an argument or criticizing or > anything, but why oh why is it that, apart from > conditioning/indoctrination, we feel we must drink milk at all - > including 'soy' milk??? There are other things to drink out there, such > as good clean water or mineral water, fruit juice of many kinds, herbal > teas, not to mention tea and coffee and beer and wine ;=) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 When I first read your post I thought you said 201 lb. mini panther!! LOL Janice ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused. - Raven Peters Friday, May 30, 2003 6:48 PM Re: Re: soy milk Laurie <laitaina wrote: > But I wanted to ask about your kitten - our cat loves tofu, but I > haven't tried him on soymilk - I wonder . . . He eats a carnivore's > diet (kibble only - he *hates* wet/canned catfood, regardless of > brand). Have you been able to put your kitten/cat on a veggie diet? > Right now I have a mental image of two very-confused kittens staring at a plate of creamed spinach Actually, they get mostly kibble and water. Boris has a weight problem, but I let Josie try a taste of things now and then. I wonder if she'd like tofu. Laurie My very carnivorish 20lb mini-panther WILL westle me to the ground for a leaf of fresh spinach. I am afraid to give him to much due to the oxylic (sp) acids in it, but figure a leaf or two won't hurt. Peace Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 30, 2003 No- but I notice I did type westle... Some days I really need a warning sticker. You know " Warning! Not operating at full capacity. Please treat kindly and stuff with chocolate... " The cat is really a mostly siamese beasty with delusions of grandeur. But quite meaty-at least WE like to think so. Others look at him and make comments such as " My, your pets don't starve, do they? " and then my 10 year old, round-ish cattle dog waddles past. I know, I know, don't lecture. The way I look at it, they were pound beasties. If it weren't for me, they'd ALL've been dead years ago. So, poor quality pet food and overweight issues and all, they've had it pretty darn good. Actually, only the dog is really overweight, and that is because her arthritis makes it hard to exercise her properly. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. BTW- the cat loves bread. Go figure. One another tangent- why, oh why don't my cute little emoticons show up in the email I get back after my message goes out into the group? Do others see them? I see them on my other groups? Is there an emoticon miser out there, stealing my little smiley faces? If so, I want them back! ~Janice Macak~ <serenity1 wrote: When I first read your post I thought you said 201 lb. mini panther!! LOL Janice ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blessed are those who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused. - Raven Peters Friday, May 30, 2003 6:48 PM Re: Re: soy milk Laurie <laitaina wrote: > But I wanted to ask about your kitten - our cat loves tofu, but I > haven't tried him on soymilk - I wonder . . . He eats a carnivore's > diet (kibble only - he *hates* wet/canned catfood, regardless of > brand). Have you been able to put your kitten/cat on a veggie diet? > Right now I have a mental image of two very-confused kittens staring at a plate of creamed spinach Actually, they get mostly kibble and water. Boris has a weight problem, but I let Josie try a taste of things now and then. I wonder if she'd like tofu. Laurie My very carnivorish 20lb mini-panther WILL westle me to the ground for a leaf of fresh spinach. I am afraid to give him to much due to the oxylic (sp) acids in it, but figure a leaf or two won't hurt. Peace Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 31, 2003 > > I drink it because water is not good on cereal *LOL* Right! Well, again, it's a matter of my being a poor communicator - when I say 'drink' I mean, as I said, from a glass or a mug - pouring it onto cereal or porridge would mean I would be *eating* it, as if it were runny custard or something on pudding, you know? It kinda counts as cooking without the heat! ;=) Best, Pat -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " - Immanuel Kant * " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites