Guest guest Report post Posted December 31, 2000 At 04:11 AM 12/31/00 +0000, Candy wrote: >Hello, >I am wondering if anyone has any recipies for good soy milke from >dried soybeans????? * Exported from MasterCook * Fresh Soy Milk Recipe By : Veggie Life Magazine, September 1999, page 23 Serving Size : 10 Preparation Time :0:00 Categories : Beverages Soyfoods Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method -------- ------------ -------------------------------- 2 cups dry soybeans 5 cups water 12 cups water Makes 10 to 11 cups This makes a good milk for everyday purposes. For a lighter milk use more water and for a richer milk use less. 1. In a large bowl, combine soybeans and 5 cups of water. Cover and soak at room temperature for 10 hours, or overnight. (If you're not ready when the beans are, change water and refrigerate until ready.) 2. In a large pot, heat the 12 cups of water until very hot. 3. While the water heats, prepare your work area. Line a large colander with a piece of thin muslin cloth (at least 2 feet square) or a double layer of cheesecloth. Place a large mixing bowl beside your blender. 4. Drain and rinse beans. Place 1-1/2 cups of beans in blender and add 3 cups of the hot water. Puree until beans are tiny particles and water turns milky, 15 to 25 seconds. 5. Pour puree into large mixing bowl and repeat process until all beans are blended. Add any remaining hot water to the bowl of puree. 6. Place the cloth-lined colander into the large pot that you heated your water in. Carefully pour the puree into colander. Gather together the corners of cloth, twist to secure the pulp, and carefully squeeze the ball of pulp to extract the remaining milk.(If it is too hot to handle, use a large spoon to press it against the colander.) 7. Reserve pulp (okara) for another use. Heat milk until it begins to boil or foam up, stirring often with a whisk to prevent burning. (If it burns, the milk will have a strong flavor.) Reduce heat and simmer 7 to 10 minutes. 8. While you wait for the milk to boil, clean up your kitchen. (Dried soy milk and pulp can be difficult to clean off counters and pots.) To clean out pressing cloth, remove the pulp, vigorously shake cloth outside, then wash. 9. After milk cooks, bottle and chill. Will keep 3 to 6 days, refrigerated, or can be frozen. Variations: Make the following additions to one quart of milk Simply Sweetened: 1-1/2 tablespoons natural sugar Maple: 1-1/2 tablespoons maple syrup Carob: 3 tablespoons carob powder, 1-1/2 tablespoons natural sugar Chocolate: 3 tablespoons cocoa powder, 3 tablespoons natural sugar, 2 teaspoons vanilla extract Mocha Latte: same as chocolate plus 4 ounces very strong coffee and a pinch of cinnamon Molasses: 3 tablespoons molasses Vanilla: 3 tablespoons brown rice syrup, 2 teaspoons vanilla The leftover pulp, called " okara, " is primarily the soybean fiber. Your garden soil and compost pile will love it, but it also makes great food for people! Its texture is reminiscent of fresh coconut, yet it is low in fat and high in fiber. The simplest way to utilize it is to add a cup to grains, soups, stir frys, or baked goods.. Whenever using fresh okara in recipes, be sure the okara gets cooked at least 6 minutes, to destroy the soybean trypsin-inhibitors (an enzyme which interferes with the digestion of protein.) If you won't use it within a few days, you can parch it. Spread it on an ungreased baking sheet and bake at 350ø, stirring a few times, until dried, about 10 to 15 minutes. You can also dry it in a skillet over high heat. Use parched okara as you'd use toasted wheat germ. One batch of the soy milk recipe (using 2 cups dry soy beans) yields about 3 cups of fresh packed okara. VEGAN PER CUP: 79CAL (52% from fat), 7g PROT, 5g FAT, 4g CARB, 29mg SOD, 0mg CHOL,3g FIBER. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 10, 2001 On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:13:33 -0500, nbrown wrote: >What is the difference between soy milk, soy drink and soy beverage? Is there >any difference? There seems to be only one brand in my store that is labeled >soy milk (and it's more expensive) -- the others are beverages and drinks. I beieve the terms 'soy milk, soy drink & soy beverage' are all interchangable. What is actually in them can vary radically, some ingredients added to the plain milk may include oil, malt, salt, apple juice or many others and therefore flavours can vary widely. Some soy milks can be quite thick, while Light (or " lite " ) versions usually do not include any oil and have more water in them and are therefore thinner. It's just a matter of trying a few to see which you prefer. I tend to go for brands that have no GM ingredients, and are preferably organic. Of course, TWIAVBP (the world is a very big place) and the meaning of a lot of terms are different in the US than in Australia, so YMMV (your milage may vary). Regards, Winsome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Hey I like Sun Soy!! Anna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 In a message dated 2/7/2003 5:31:02 PM Central Standard Time, daveo writes: > When I still drank cow's milk, I bought the nonfat and got use to the weaker > taste. When I began drinking Silk soy milk, it was way to rich. Anna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 In a message dated 2/7/2003 5:31:02 PM Central Standard Time, daveo writes: > When I still drank cow's milk, I bought the nonfat and got use to the weaker > taste. When I began drinking Silk soy milk, it was way to rich. As I am not a full fledge vegetarian anymore, I stillm prefer soy milk over cow's milk. Whenever I have to drink cow milk, it always tastes rotten, or bad. i am a full fledge soymilk*vanilla flavored girl.. I tired rice milk, but that was rather yucky. i stick to Sun Soy or the evil silk brand. Anna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 i hate silk, too. i had trader joe's strawberry soy milk and i thought it was great. i typically drink vitasoy. 8th continent is very good too. so is sun soy. westsoy is ok. I think it's all a big conspiracy the way grocery stores stock silk like crazy. they don't want people to buy healthy food. just like gardenburger, it takes like a raw onion! Dubbya and his corporate puppetmasters strike again! super d -- In , Tina Graybeal <bouledogue.tmg@d...> wrote: > Hello to all, > I was curious what brands of refrigerated soy milk most people liked. > When I started buying it I bought " Silk " brand which is the one grocery > stores think they should stock. I found it had an aftertaste that > overpowered foods and shakes. I now buy " Vitasoy " which I think is so > much better but is hard to find in the grocery stores. Has anyone tried > Trader Joe's soy milk? > > Tina > bouledogue.tmg@d... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 When I still drank cow's milk, I bought the nonfat and got use to the weaker taste. When I began drinking Silk soy milk, it was way to rich. Now, I buy a half gallon container of Silk and divided it equally between 2 half gallon pitchers. Filling them both up with filtered water, I have a full gallon where there was only a half. The weaker taste is just fine for me, and for those looking to lower the cost that's a 50% savings. I actually made soy milk from scratch for a while. That was way cheaper, but much more trouble than I wanted every two days. DaveO Tina Graybeal [bouledogue.tmg] Hello to all, I was curious what brands of refrigerated soy milk most people liked. When I started buying it I bought " Silk " brand which is the one grocery stores think they should stock. I found it had an aftertaste that overpowered foods and shakes. I now buy " Vitasoy " which I think is so much better but is hard to find in the grocery stores. Has anyone tried Trader Joe's soy milk? Tina bouledogue.tmg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Give me a break. Bush is responsible for grocery stores only selling silk and gardenburgers? I wouldn't normally comment on this, but some of the statements lately have been beyond ridiculous. I'm not flaming you, or trying to insult you. But, come on, can we PLEASE refrain from this constant nonsensical rambling and constant blaming? It's really not funny and doesn't make any sense. Warmly, Allison --- " dave <dave4sale " <dave4sale wrote: > i hate silk, too. i had trader joe's strawberry soy > milk and i > thought it was great. i typically drink vitasoy. > 8th continent is > very good too. so is sun soy. westsoy is ok. > > I think it's all a big conspiracy the way grocery > stores stock silk > like crazy. they don't want people to buy healthy > food. just like > gardenburger, it takes like a raw onion! Dubbya and > his corporate > puppetmasters strike again! super d > > -- In , Tina > Graybeal > <bouledogue.tmg@d...> wrote: > > Hello to all, > > I was curious what brands of refrigerated soy milk > most people > liked. > > When I started buying it I bought " Silk " brand > which is the one > grocery > > stores think they should stock. I found it had an > aftertaste that > > overpowered foods and shakes. I now buy " Vitasoy " > which I think is > so > > much better but is hard to find in the grocery > stores. Has anyone > tried > > Trader Joe's soy milk? > > > > Tina > > bouledogue.tmg@d... > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 i was kidding. i thought that was fairly obvious. no i don't like bush, but i don't think he's responsible for everything wrong with the world. sorry if you don't find it amusing, but aren't you the one who said it would be a boring world if we were all the same (e.g. same sense of humor)? dave why do you sign your posts with warmly all the time when you ARE being insulting by labeling what you don't like as nonsensical. if you want me to leave i will. i really don't care. , Allison Nations <allyanne2001> wrote: > Give me a break. Bush is responsible for grocery > stores only selling silk and gardenburgers? I > wouldn't normally comment on this, but some of the > statements lately have been beyond ridiculous. I'm > not flaming you, or trying to insult you. But, come > on, can we PLEASE refrain from this constant > nonsensical rambling and constant blaming? It's > really not funny and doesn't make any sense. > Warmly, > Allison > > --- " dave <dave4sale> " <dave4sale> > wrote: > > i hate silk, too. i had trader joe's strawberry soy > > milk and i > > thought it was great. i typically drink vitasoy. > > 8th continent is > > very good too. so is sun soy. westsoy is ok. > > > > I think it's all a big conspiracy the way grocery > > stores stock silk > > like crazy. they don't want people to buy healthy > > food. just like > > gardenburger, it takes like a raw onion! Dubbya and > > his corporate > > puppetmasters strike again! super d > > > > -- In , Tina > > Graybeal > > <bouledogue.tmg@d...> wrote: > > > Hello to all, > > > I was curious what brands of refrigerated soy milk > > most people > > liked. > > > When I started buying it I bought " Silk " brand > > which is the one > > grocery > > > stores think they should stock. I found it had an > > aftertaste that > > > overpowered foods and shakes. I now buy " Vitasoy " > > which I think is > > so > > > much better but is hard to find in the grocery > > stores. Has anyone > > tried > > > Trader Joe's soy milk? > > > > > > Tina > > > bouledogue.tmg@d... > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 No, I'm not insulting. I mean warmly. Even if I'm sending a negative email or am flustered or angered. I still like to end on a positive note. I know you're kidding - it's just a little annoying after awhile. I would be equally annoyed if it were a Democrat constantly slammed as well. Things just get old. No big deal:) Why would I want you to leave? Warmly, (I mean it) Allison (not a Republican) --- " dave <dave4sale " <dave4sale wrote: > i was kidding. i thought that was fairly obvious. > no i don't like > bush, but i don't think he's responsible for > everything wrong with > the world. sorry if you don't find it amusing, but > aren't you the > one who said it would be a boring world if we were > all the same (e.g. > same sense of humor)? > > dave > > why do you sign your posts with warmly all the time > when you ARE > being insulting by labeling what you don't like as > nonsensical. > > if you want me to leave i will. i really don't care. > > > , Allison > Nations > <allyanne2001> wrote: > > Give me a break. Bush is responsible for grocery > > stores only selling silk and gardenburgers? I > > wouldn't normally comment on this, but some of the > > statements lately have been beyond ridiculous. > I'm > > not flaming you, or trying to insult you. But, > come > > on, can we PLEASE refrain from this constant > > nonsensical rambling and constant blaming? It's > > really not funny and doesn't make any sense. > > Warmly, > > Allison > > > > --- " dave <dave4sale> " <dave4sale> > > wrote: > > > i hate silk, too. i had trader joe's strawberry > soy > > > milk and i > > > thought it was great. i typically drink vitasoy. > > > > 8th continent is > > > very good too. so is sun soy. westsoy is ok. > > > > > > I think it's all a big conspiracy the way > grocery > > > stores stock silk > > > like crazy. they don't want people to buy > healthy > > > food. just like > > > gardenburger, it takes like a raw onion! Dubbya > and > > > his corporate > > > puppetmasters strike again! super d > > > > > > -- In , Tina > > > Graybeal > > > <bouledogue.tmg@d...> wrote: > > > > Hello to all, > > > > I was curious what brands of refrigerated soy > milk > > > most people > > > liked. > > > > When I started buying it I bought " Silk " brand > > > which is the one > > > grocery > > > > stores think they should stock. I found it had > an > > > aftertaste that > > > > overpowered foods and shakes. I now buy > " Vitasoy " > > > which I think is > > > so > > > > much better but is hard to find in the grocery > > > stores. Has anyone > > > tried > > > > Trader Joe's soy milk? > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > bouledogue.tmg@d... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > > http://mailplus. > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 i am just so sick of hearing democrats blamed for this and that, and people claiming the media is " liberal " - it is liberal only compared to this insanely right-wing administration.. so i decided i would alleviate this disgust by fasciously blaming Bush for everything for awhile. but i'm not a democrat, i'm a green, and i'm even more sick of hearing people blame nadar for gore's loss. so i am sorry if i irritated anyone. i will return to seriously criticizing Bush for his many real faults. but if my, or anyone else's posts irritate you so, why do you continue to read them? when he was here, Mr. stewart's posts were getting old to me after awhile, but instead of telling him to shut up i just stopped reading them. , Allison Nations <allyanne2001> wrote: > No, I'm not insulting. I mean warmly. Even if I'm > sending a negative email or am flustered or angered. > I still like to end on a positive note. > > I know you're kidding - it's just a little annoying > after awhile. I would be equally annoyed if it were a > Democrat constantly slammed as well. Things just get > old. No big deal:) Why would I want you to leave? > Warmly, (I mean it) > Allison (not a Republican) > > --- " dave <dave4sale> " <dave4sale> > wrote: > > i was kidding. i thought that was fairly obvious. > > no i don't like > > bush, but i don't think he's responsible for > > everything wrong with > > the world. sorry if you don't find it amusing, but > > aren't you the > > one who said it would be a boring world if we were > > all the same (e.g. > > same sense of humor)? > > > > dave > > > > why do you sign your posts with warmly all the time > > when you ARE > > being insulting by labeling what you don't like as > > nonsensical. > > > > if you want me to leave i will. i really don't care. > > > > > > , Allison > > Nations > > <allyanne2001> wrote: > > > Give me a break. Bush is responsible for grocery > > > stores only selling silk and gardenburgers? I > > > wouldn't normally comment on this, but some of the > > > statements lately have been beyond ridiculous. > > I'm > > > not flaming you, or trying to insult you. But, > > come > > > on, can we PLEASE refrain from this constant > > > nonsensical rambling and constant blaming? It's > > > really not funny and doesn't make any sense. > > > Warmly, > > > Allison > > > > > > --- " dave <dave4sale> " <dave4sale> > > > wrote: > > > > i hate silk, too. i had trader joe's strawberry > > soy > > > > milk and i > > > > thought it was great. i typically drink vitasoy. > > > > > > 8th continent is > > > > very good too. so is sun soy. westsoy is ok. > > > > > > > > I think it's all a big conspiracy the way > > grocery > > > > stores stock silk > > > > like crazy. they don't want people to buy > > healthy > > > > food. just like > > > > gardenburger, it takes like a raw onion! Dubbya > > and > > > > his corporate > > > > puppetmasters strike again! super d > > > > > > > > -- In , Tina > > > > Graybeal > > > > <bouledogue.tmg@d...> wrote: > > > > > Hello to all, > > > > > I was curious what brands of refrigerated soy > > milk > > > > most people > > > > liked. > > > > > When I started buying it I bought " Silk " brand > > > > which is the one > > > > grocery > > > > > stores think they should stock. I found it had > > an > > > > aftertaste that > > > > > overpowered foods and shakes. I now buy > > " Vitasoy " > > > > which I think is > > > > so > > > > > much better but is hard to find in the grocery > > > > stores. Has anyone > > > > tried > > > > > Trader Joe's soy milk? > > > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > bouledogue.tmg@d... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > > now. > > > http://mailplus. > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Gene would change the subject heading. I was reading the thread about soy milk b/c I'm genuinely interesting in that topic. It's when I got to the part about this soy/gardenburger conspiracy is when I became a bit annoyed. But yes, media is biased. CNN is liberal, FOX is conservative. The Washington Post is liberal, The Washington Times is conservative. That's just the way it is. When I commented on it, I simply commented that I wouldn't rely on one side's perspective. Chances are, there's another news station and paper that would shed light on the opposite view. I figured you weren't a Democrat. You're Green, I'm Libertarian. Warmly, Allison --- " dave <dave4sale " <dave4sale wrote: > i am just so sick of hearing democrats blamed for > this and that, and > people claiming the media is " liberal " - it is > liberal only compared > to this insanely right-wing administration.. so i > decided i would > alleviate this disgust by fasciously blaming Bush > for everything for > awhile. but i'm not a democrat, i'm a green, and i'm > even more sick > of hearing people blame nadar for gore's loss. so i > am sorry if i > irritated anyone. i will return to seriously > criticizing Bush for his > many real faults. but if my, or anyone else's posts > irritate you so, > why do you continue to read them? when he was here, > Mr. stewart's > posts were getting old to me after awhile, but > instead of telling him > to shut up i just stopped reading them. > > > > , Allison > Nations > <allyanne2001> wrote: > > No, I'm not insulting. I mean warmly. Even if > I'm > > sending a negative email or am flustered or > angered. > > I still like to end on a positive note. > > > > I know you're kidding - it's just a little > annoying > > after awhile. I would be equally annoyed if it > were a > > Democrat constantly slammed as well. Things just > get > > old. No big deal:) Why would I want you to > leave? > > Warmly, (I mean it) > > Allison (not a Republican) > > > > --- " dave <dave4sale> " <dave4sale> > > wrote: > > > i was kidding. i thought that was fairly > obvious. > > > no i don't like > > > bush, but i don't think he's responsible for > > > everything wrong with > > > the world. sorry if you don't find it amusing, > but > > > aren't you the > > > one who said it would be a boring world if we > were > > > all the same (e.g. > > > same sense of humor)? > > > > > > dave > > > > > > why do you sign your posts with warmly all the > time > > > when you ARE > > > being insulting by labeling what you don't like > as > > > nonsensical. > > > > > > if you want me to leave i will. i really don't > care. > > > > > > > > > , > Allison > > > Nations > > > <allyanne2001> wrote: > > > > Give me a break. Bush is responsible for > grocery > > > > stores only selling silk and gardenburgers? I > > > > wouldn't normally comment on this, but some of > the > > > > statements lately have been beyond ridiculous. > > > > I'm > > > > not flaming you, or trying to insult you. > But, > > > come > > > > on, can we PLEASE refrain from this constant > > > > nonsensical rambling and constant blaming? > It's > > > > really not funny and doesn't make any sense. > > > > Warmly, > > > > Allison > > > > > > > > --- " dave <dave4sale> " <dave4sale> > > > > wrote: > > > > > i hate silk, too. i had trader joe's > strawberry > > > soy > > > > > milk and i > > > > > thought it was great. i typically drink > vitasoy. > > > > > > > > 8th continent is > > > > > very good too. so is sun soy. westsoy is > ok. > > > > > > > > > > I think it's all a big conspiracy the way > > > grocery > > > > > stores stock silk > > > > > like crazy. they don't want people to buy > > > healthy > > > > > food. just like > > > > > gardenburger, it takes like a raw onion! > Dubbya > > > and > > > > > his corporate > > > > > puppetmasters strike again! super d > > > > > > > > > > -- In , > Tina > > > > > Graybeal > > > > > <bouledogue.tmg@d...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello to all, > > > > > > I was curious what brands of refrigerated > soy > > > milk > > > > > most people > > > > > liked. > > > > > > When I started buying it I bought " Silk " > brand > > > > > which is the one > > > > > grocery > > > > > > stores think they should stock. I found it > had > > > an > > > > > aftertaste that > > > > > > overpowered foods and shakes. I now buy > > > " Vitasoy " > > > > > which I think is > > > > > so > > > > > > much better but is hard to find in the > grocery > > > > > stores. Has anyone > > > > > tried > > > > > > Trader Joe's soy milk? > > > > > > > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > bouledogue.tmg@d... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign > up > > > now. > > > > http://mailplus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > > http://mailplus. > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Hey, Dave4. I think you're doing just fine. Call 'em the way you see them, bro. After a while you'll get to know what the various people mean when they seem to be insulting or offended. Often that's not the case. If you're still worried, then ask them off-list. " For everything, there is a season. " DaveO dave <dave4sale [dave4sale] i am just so sick of hearing democrats blamed for this and that, and people claiming the media is " liberal " - it is liberal only compared to this insanely right-wing administration.. so i decided i would alleviate this disgust by fasciously blaming Bush for everything for awhile. but i'm not a democrat, i'm a green, and i'm even more sick of hearing people blame nadar for gore's loss. so i am sorry if i irritated anyone. i will return to seriously criticizing Bush for his many real faults. but if my, or anyone else's posts irritate you so, why do you continue to read them? when he was here, Mr. stewart's posts were getting old to me after awhile, but instead of telling him to shut up i just stopped reading them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 2003 can we get back to talking about the aforementioned subject, soy milk? To answer the original question in the original post, I like Trader Joe's soy milk. It's what i usually buy unless Silk or my other fave brand, Naturally Preferred, are on sale. Megan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 2003 I just don't like drinking ANY milk; never have. When I buy milk now it is just for cooking or for my kids to use on cereal b/c they don't even like to drink the stuff. I have bought soy before to use for smoothies but I don't remember the brand. It seems to have more calories that non-fat milk and I was wondering how it rated on calcium content? I don't know if I could get my children to use it on cereal instead of regular milk, but the personal preferance info has been interesting. Thanks for posting which ones you all like. I guess I am going to avoid that SILK brand from now on. ~ PT ~ Nature is trying very hard to make us succeed, but nature does not depend on us. We are not the only experiment. -R. Buckminster Fuller, engineer, designer, and architect (1895-1983) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> , " Megan Milligan " < yasminduran@l...> wrote: > can we get back to talking about the aforementioned subject, soy milk? > > To answer the original question in the original post, I like Trader Joe's > soy milk. It's what i usually buy unless Silk or my other fave brand, > Naturally Preferred, are on sale. > > Megan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 8, 2003 " ~ P_T ~ <patchouli_troll> " <patchouli_troll> wrote: > I just don't like drinking ANY milk; never have. When I buy milk now it is just for cooking or for my kids to use on cereal b/c they > don't even like to drink the stuff. I'm just the opposite. I LOVE milk - I drink as much as a litre a day, most of the time. Cold, hot, mixed in things - I go through a lot of milk. I tasted soy milk once, and it was awful (my father is lactose intolerant, so he has it occasionally). Its one switch I can't see myself making, though perhaps there are better choices out there now. > It seems to have more calories that non-fat milk and I was wondering how it rated on calcium content? More calories, and its just so thick and heavy too. I grew up drinking milk we bought from the neighbors. It was pasteurized, but not homogenized, and my father always skimmed all the cream off the top for his coffee, so we basically drank skim milk. When I started buying milk in the store, even 2% (and later 1%, when it became available) seemed heavy and oily to me. But skim milk? Yummmmmm. (Over ice is even better, though people get grossed out when they see my milk getting thinner and paler as the ice melts LOL) Recent studies I've read suggest that calcium supplements don't give women the protection they need from osteoperosis and other bone problems. If you're not getting it naturally, it would seem, you might as well not bother. That would be a serious concern for me, since I already have a debilitating joint disease. Strong, healthy bones are pretty important to me, so if soy milk isn't going to give me adequate calcium, I'm not even going to consider it. Does anyone have information on the comparative calcium contents? -- Sherri The media finally figured out that their " paying customers " (i.e. advertisers) don't WANT an intelligent, thoughtful audience. And they no longer have one. " (Rich Tietjens) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2003 , Sherri <sherria@o...> wrote: .... Recent studies I've read suggest that calcium supplements don't give > women the protection they need from osteoperosis and other bone > problems. If you're not getting it naturally, it would seem, you might > as well not bother. That would be a serious concern for me, since I > already have a debilitating joint disease. Strong, healthy bones are > pretty important to me, so if soy milk isn't going to give me adequate > calcium, I'm not even going to consider it. Does anyone have > information on the comparative calcium contents? > Fortified soymilks contain every bit as much calcium as milk. Read the nutrition labels on the side of the box and compare. I prefer Vitasoy myself, but it all depends on your taste. As for milk and supplements, I would like to post a link I have posted before: http://www.mercola.com/article/milk/no_milk.htm And I would like to quote the following from the article, for those who don't want to read the whole thing: " You probably are wondering what will happen to your bones and teeth if you stop milk. The majority of the world's population takes in less than half the calcium we are told we need and yet they have strong bones and healthy teeth. Cows' milk is rich in phosphorous which can combine with calcium -- and can prevent you from absorbing the calcium in milk. The milk protein also accelerates calcium excretion from the blood through the kidneys. This is also true when you eat large amount of meat and poultry products. Vegetarians will need about 50% less calcium than meat eaters because they lose much less calcium in their urine. It is possible to obtain all your calcium from dark green vegetables (where do you think the cow gets their's from?). The darker the better. Cooked collard greens and kale are especially good. If you or your child is unable to take in large amounts of green vegetables, you might want to supplement with calcium. " Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2003 My kids LOVE Soy Dream and Rice Dream vanilla flavor on their cereal. - ~ P_T ~ <patchouli_troll Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:15 AM Re: soy milk I just don't like drinking ANY milk; never have. When I buy milk now it is just for cooking or for my kids to use on cereal b/c they don't even like to drink the stuff. I have bought soy before to use for smoothies but I don't remember the brand. It seems to have more calories that non-fat milk and I was wondering how it rated on calcium content? I don't know if I could get my children to use it on cereal instead of regular milk, but the personal preferance info has been interesting. Thanks for posting which ones you all like. I guess I am going to avoid that SILK brand from now on. ~ PT ~ Nature is trying very hard to make us succeed, but nature does not depend on us. We are not the only experiment. -R. Buckminster Fuller, engineer, designer, and architect (1895-1983) ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> , " Megan Milligan " < yasminduran@l...> wrote: > can we get back to talking about the aforementioned subject, soy milk? > > To answer the original question in the original post, I like Trader Joe's > soy milk. It's what i usually buy unless Silk or my other fave brand, > Naturally Preferred, are on sale. > > Megan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2003 Me too, I'm afraid. Someone recently posted about having two one-gallon jugs of soymilk - soy plus filtered water - as a way around the too-strong taste or substance or whatever (sorry, I don't have the post in front of me - I truly don't quite remember - I'm not trying to be offhand of offensive, just absent-minded :=( me.) - and I thought How Clever - and then I said to my dh, what *on earth* would any adult person do with two gallons of soymilk in the fridge? He thought bathe in it, a bit like a vegan Cleopatra :=) I keep soymilk in for cooking - and for the kidz cereal, as it were, the kidz being the beagles. As for those who drink 'milk' - if you don't like the taste of some of them, why bother, I wonder. Just me :=( Perhaps it's a hold-over from dairy industry propaganda that we feel we should drink milk or, in my case, feel we need to justify why we don't - even if the 'milk' in our case is soymilk ;=) And sorry, I didn't mean or want, by this post, to start a whole controversy. If you drink it you drink it and are entitled to do so - it's good for you, being soy, and certainly does no one, human creature or any other creature, any harm. best, pat > I just don't like drinking ANY milk; never have. When I buy > milk now > it is just > for cooking or for my kids to use on cereal > -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " - Albert Schweitzer * " Don't be afraid. Just start the tape. " - Anne Rice * " I don't do pawprints. " -- Snoopy ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2003 LOL!!! That was me...in case I mistyped it...it was two " half " gallon pitchers. Luckily, Silk is good for about two months or so, and that's about how long it takes for me to use the whole gallon. BTW, I have a 2nd fridge in the garage, which makes longer term storage a bit easier and more convenient. DaveO Sant & Brown [santbrown] >>...Someone recently posted about having two one-gallon jugs of soymilk - soy plus filtered water - as a way around the too-strong taste...then I said to my dh, what *on earth* would any adult person do with two gallons of soymilk in the fridge? He thought bathe in it, a bit like a vegan Cleopatra :=)<< Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 10, 2003 Sorry, friend! ;=) I was typing all that info from memory - you probably made it *quite* clear what you meant! Sorry for the confusion - and for seeming to make your idea foolish. I didn't think it was - I thought it was very sensible - just that it seemed like a lotta soymilk ;=) Ya mean ya *don't* bathe in it? best, pat sant > LOL!!! > > That was me...in case I mistyped it...it was two " half " gallon > pitchers. > > Luckily, Silk is good for about two months or so, and that's > about how long > it takes for me to use the whole gallon. BTW, I have a 2nd > fridge in the > garage, which makes longer term storage a bit easier and more > convenient. > > DaveO > > -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace. " - Albert Schweitzer * " Don't be afraid. Just start the tape. " - Anne Rice * " I don't do pawprints. " -- Snoopy ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 10, 2003 just in case anyone isn't aware there are fat-free soy milks. they are sold in a box on shelves, not in the refridgerated section. i don't like them because i like my milk thick. westsoy seems to be a bit thinner than other soy milks. i'm sorry i don't know the calorie content. i know they also make unsweetened soy milk. that probably has very low calories. i also question use of the word " natural " when referring to cow's milk as a calcium source, it is after all, " meant " for cows not humans. > > It seems to have more calories that non-fat milk and I was wondering > how it rated on calcium content? > > More calories, and its just so thick and heavy too. I grew up drinking > milk we bought from the neighbors. It was pasteurized, but not > homogenized, and my father always skimmed all the cream off the top for > his coffee, so we basically drank skim milk. When I started buying milk > in the store, even 2% (and later 1%, when it became available) seemed > heavy and oily to me. But skim milk? Yummmmmm. (Over ice is even > better, though people get grossed out when they see my milk getting > thinner and paler as the ice melts LOL) > > Recent studies I've read suggest that calcium supplements don't give > women the protection they need from osteoperosis and other bone > problems. If you're not getting it naturally, it would seem, you might > as well not bother. That would be a serious concern for me, since I > already have a debilitating joint disease. Strong, healthy bones are > pretty important to me, so if soy milk isn't going to give me adequate > calcium, I'm not even going to consider it. Does anyone have > information on the comparative calcium contents? > > > -- > Sherri > > The media finally figured out that their " paying customers " (i.e. > advertisers) don't WANT an intelligent, thoughtful audience. And they > no longer have one. " (Rich Tietjens) > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 10, 2003 i've tried that westsoy unsweetened soymilk (it's the only i know of that doesn't have any added sweetener) and it tastes horrible! lol i was on a no-sugar (and no dairy) diet for awhile and ended up making my own almond milk.....which was thin but tasted much better than that westsoy. i can try to find the recipe for the almond milk if anyone wants it. i'm not on the sugar-free diet anymore and now use vanilla silk. my 3 year old loves it! susie --- " dave <dave4sale " <dave4sale wrote: > just in case anyone isn't aware there are fat-free > soy milks. they > are sold in a box on shelves, not in the > refridgerated section. i > don't like them because i like my milk thick. > westsoy seems to be a > bit thinner than other soy milks. i'm sorry i don't > know the calorie > content. i know they also make unsweetened soy milk. > that probably > has very low calories. i also question use of the > word " natural " > when referring to cow's milk as a calcium source, it > is after > all, " meant " for cows not humans. > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2003 IMHO, the best part about soy milk is it keeps so much longer than cow's milk. I had stopped drinking milk altogether because it was always going bad before I could drink it. One downside: my kitten will NEVER forgive me Laurie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2003 He might be mad for a while, but he'll get over it. Cow's milk isn't any better for him then it is for us! HAM AND EGGS - A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig. - Laurie Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:44 AM Re: soy milk IMHO, the best part about soy milk is it keeps so much longer than cow's milk. I had stopped drinking milk altogether because it was always going bad before I could drink it. One downside: my kitten will NEVER forgive me Laurie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
