Guest guest Report post Posted October 5, 2004 Hi Alex, How much do you sell the Solostar for ? Rufus --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > Personally...I like the solostar juicer which is a > newer version of the samson juicer and produces > drier pulp and is easier to clean. > > Peace > Alex > > howard huey <huey_htm wrote: > > > Samson has 2 juicer models: the plain one and the > Ultra. Can you please tell me the difference and the > one you recommend. > --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > Hey Chris, why the 3000 model? > The only difference between the 1000 and 3000 is > that the 3000 comes with all those attachments that > raw foodists don't even use. Don't waste your money > on a 3000, if you really want a greenstar juicer, > get the 1000 model. I sell them for $347.99 plus > free shipping. > In my experience the greenstar gears are tough to > clean after something oily like when making nut > butter and also the machine is too bulky.... Read > the below article why a Samson or SoloStar is just > as good or even better than a Greenstar juicer. > > Samson Is Superior to Green Star and Costs > LessPlease beware of Juicer Comparison charts on > some web sites like the chart below. Using Green > Star's own chart, fact-by-fact I show that the > Samson is far superior on every count quicker to > clean, gives you non-foamy juice, smoother baby > foods and sorbets, and actual raw nut butters (not > the Green Star's nut powders). > Everyone agrees the Green Star is a PAIN to clean, > really tedious to scrub and scrub and scrub, > especially the screens and twin gears, while the > Samson juicer is a one-minute rinse. > Twin gear of Green Star juicer time-consuming to > clean all the pulp fibers out of pocket recess in > every tooth of both gears plus I'm told the screens > are such a pain to scrub and scrub. Single screw of > Samson juicer quick to clean, pulp easily washes > off, no inaccessible fibers.When cleaning takes a > long time, you don't juice as often as you should, > or would love. > Worse still, at the core of each Green Star twin > gear is a series of in-line magnets that produce a > focused magnetic field of 2600 gauss through which > the juice flows. I'm sorry, but I do *not* want a > force on the level of physics to alter the > sub-atomic structure of my juice. This denaturing of > Nature's perfectly balanced chemistry is the very > thing raw foodists are *against.* > The Samson simply crushes or extracts the fiber, > depending on whether you're making fat-free dessert > or fresh juice. This is a physical change, not > chemical. There's no stripping of electrons (which > the heat of centrifugal juicers does) and there's no > adding of electrons (which magnetism does). > The gentle grinding of the Samson auger (screw) > cannot break the forces holding electrons in place. > The only forces strong enough to shove electrons > around are those on the level of physics, like heat, > pressure, light, and magnetism. These are the forces > that food factories use. > Green Star mentions a " 72 Hour Fresh Juice Stability > Study " which showed " the lowest bacteria > proliferation. " This to me is scary. If the bacteria > don't want it, I don't want it. If the enzymes in > microbes can't break down the food, then the enzymes > in my body will have an equally tough time. This is > true whether we're talking breakfast cereal or > juice. > Facts on Juicer Comparison ChartLet's compare the > newest Green Power model, the Green Star, with the > powerful Samson. To me, both the Samson and Green > Star juicers are masticating juicers masticate > means to grind or crush, e.g. you masticate food > between your teeth. > The Green Power chart above claims Green Star is the > only juicer with: > Low Operating RPM (revolutions per minute) in > fact Samson is lower at 80 rpm, Green Star is 110 > rpm. > Dry Pulp Samson is the only juicer with > adjustable *three* squeezing strengths in drum cap > to ensure driest pulp. > Low Heat and Physical Shock Samson has thermal > overload protection that switches motor off, if it > gets too hot. This is why Samson's motor warranty is > double that of Green Star (Samson 10 years, Green > Star 5 years). > High Nutrient and Enzyme Content the least > oxidation occurs with the lowest RPM, so Samson's 80 > rpm retains the maximum nutrients. Plus Green Star > alters the sub-atomic structure (adds electrons > through magnetism) which would denature the > nutrients. > Long Lasting Juice this is NOT a benefit. No raw > foodist wants to extend the shelf life of their > food. If we did, we'd eat pasta and breakfast cereal > instead of wheatgrass juice, fresh fruits and > just-picked greens. > Pulp-Free Juice Samson juice is pulpier and this > to me is a benefit (pulp helps to sweep debris from > colon, like a broom) or use Samson's strainer to > separate the pulp. > Juices Wheat Grass Samson juice is as good as a > dedicated wheatgrass juicer, whereas Green Star > creates excess foam in wheatgrass juice. > Juices Herbs (sage, horsetail) so does Samson, > and in addition Samson and Omega 8002 are the only > juicers that juice aloe vera leaves and pine needles > (if you have a hankering for pine). > Juices Fruit the Green Star twin gears *require* > the fiber in veggies to push the pulp through the > machine, or it backs up. Samson's single gear easily > handles soft fruits like kiwi and melon. Plus Samson > juices sugar cane, Green Star will not. Both juicers > juice all vegetables, including celery and green > leaves. > Low Noise Operation I haven't heard both, but > the rule of thumb is: the faster a juicer turns > (revolutions per minute or rpm) the louder the > machine. Samson is 80 rpm, Green Star 110, so my bet > is on Samson as the quieter. Compare Champion at > 2,700 rpm and centrifugal ejection juicers at 7,000 > rpm. > Easy to Operate and Clean give me a break, look > at the photo of twin gears above. Green Star is > toughest of all juicers to clean. As for easy to > operate, one web site comparing all juicers, states: > " These machines [Green Star, Green Power] are not > for the faint or frail hearted as some pressure is > needed to feed the produce into the machine. " I can > imagine, with those interlocking twin gears. > Makes Pasta Samson comes with two nozzles for > both pasta and noodles, Green Star has only one > pasta screw. > Makes Nut Butters the same site that sells all > juicers (their price for Samson is $269 with > shipping) writes: " I have tried making RAW almond > butter in the Samson, it turned out fairly well, and > in the Green Star, it basically turned the almonds > into powder... not quite a butter. " I make very > quick and easy nut-butters of the soft " wet " nuts > like macedamia, walnut, pecan, in my Samson these > nuts don't grind in a coffee grinder, as almond will > and there's no sticky mess to clean up. > Makes Baby Food and Desserts both Samson and > Green Star produce creamy fruit sorbets from frozen > fruit (they're delicious, like frozen yogurt) but > the same site that tested both writes: " Samson seems > to get the sorbets a bit more " fine " than the Green > Star. " This would apply to baby foods too. > Accessories Included all are included with the > Samson special here at $219. For Green Star, it > depends on which model you buy. > Warranty Samson is 10 years on motor, 5 years on > parts, Green Star is 5 years on motor and parts, > Green Power is 2 years on motor and parts. > AND Green Star makes you pay for magnetized juice > > Magnetic Technology A Note on Altering Electron > Structure Through MagnetismWe Are Living Miracles. > How does it all work? The magic of a heart beating > in perfect rhythm? A heart that loses its rhythm in > a heart attack feels like a million squiggly eels in > your hand. > Its chemistry. One atom marries another atom or > divorces it. How do they decide whether to kiss or > run? Usually one atom needs an electron and the > other has one to give, so they stay together and > share the electron. > Whats critical to the union of our two young atoms > is that the electron they share must be in the right > place, facing the right direction. > Its as if when squeezed in the rush hour train, your > cheek can stick to the person next to you (a) if > youre both the same height thats electron place or > position, and (b) if your left cheek is next to her > or his right cheek, but *not* left cheek thats > electron direction or orientation. > But it takes energy for your two cheeks to stick > together. We dont collapse in the arms of just > anyone, unless we have a heart attack. We make a > calculated move only toward the cheek we want. > In our body, enzymes provide this energy. Enzymes > bring atoms together and split them up. Matchmaker, > matchmaker, make me a match! > Enzymes are factory slaves, forced to work on strict > assembly lines. Each enzyme performs only one job > over and over, sometimes millions of times a minute > it's reaction-specific. And each enzyme does its job > with only one molecule of a specific structure it's > substrate-specific. > Change electron position and orientation, and you > change the structure of the molecule, the substrate. > How can your enzyme then work on it? > === message truncated === Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 5, 2004 $184.99 plus free shipping! Rufus Shaw <rufus10_99 wrote:Hi Alex, How much do you sell the Solostar for ? Rufus --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > Personally...I like the solostar juicer which is a > newer version of the samson juicer and produces > drier pulp and is easier to clean. > > Peace > Alex > > howard huey <huey_htm wrote: > > > Samson has 2 juicer models: the plain one and the > Ultra. Can you please tell me the difference and the > one you recommend. > --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > Hey Chris, why the 3000 model? > The only difference between the 1000 and 3000 is > that the 3000 comes with all those attachments that > raw foodists don't even use. Don't waste your money > on a 3000, if you really want a greenstar juicer, > get the 1000 model. I sell them for $347.99 plus > free shipping. > In my experience the greenstar gears are tough to > clean after something oily like when making nut > butter and also the machine is too bulky.... Read > the below article why a Samson or SoloStar is just > as good or even better than a Greenstar juicer. > > Samson Is Superior to Green Star and Costs > LessPlease beware of Juicer Comparison charts on > some web sites like the chart below. Using Green > Star's own chart, fact-by-fact I show that the > Samson is far superior on every count quicker to > clean, gives you non-foamy juice, smoother baby > foods and sorbets, and actual raw nut butters (not > the Green Star's nut powders). > Everyone agrees the Green Star is a PAIN to clean, > really tedious to scrub and scrub and scrub, > especially the screens and twin gears, while the > Samson juicer is a one-minute rinse. > Twin gear of Green Star juicer time-consuming to > clean all the pulp fibers out of pocket recess in > every tooth of both gears plus I'm told the screens > are such a pain to scrub and scrub. Single screw of > Samson juicer quick to clean, pulp easily washes > off, no inaccessible fibers.When cleaning takes a > long time, you don't juice as often as you should, > or would love. > Worse still, at the core of each Green Star twin > gear is a series of in-line magnets that produce a > focused magnetic field of 2600 gauss through which > the juice flows. I'm sorry, but I do *not* want a > force on the level of physics to alter the > sub-atomic structure of my juice. This denaturing of > Nature's perfectly balanced chemistry is the very > thing raw foodists are *against.* > The Samson simply crushes or extracts the fiber, > depending on whether you're making fat-free dessert > or fresh juice. This is a physical change, not > chemical. There's no stripping of electrons (which > the heat of centrifugal juicers does) and there's no > adding of electrons (which magnetism does). > The gentle grinding of the Samson auger (screw) > cannot break the forces holding electrons in place. > The only forces strong enough to shove electrons > around are those on the level of physics, like heat, > pressure, light, and magnetism. These are the forces > that food factories use. > Green Star mentions a " 72 Hour Fresh Juice Stability > Study " which showed " the lowest bacteria > proliferation. " This to me is scary. If the bacteria > don't want it, I don't want it. If the enzymes in > microbes can't break down the food, then the enzymes > in my body will have an equally tough time. This is > true whether we're talking breakfast cereal or > juice. > Facts on Juicer Comparison ChartLet's compare the > newest Green Power model, the Green Star, with the > powerful Samson. To me, both the Samson and Green > Star juicers are masticating juicers masticate > means to grind or crush, e.g. you masticate food > between your teeth. > The Green Power chart above claims Green Star is the > only juicer with: > Low Operating RPM (revolutions per minute) in > fact Samson is lower at 80 rpm, Green Star is 110 > rpm. > Dry Pulp Samson is the only juicer with > adjustable *three* squeezing strengths in drum cap > to ensure driest pulp. > Low Heat and Physical Shock Samson has thermal > overload protection that switches motor off, if it > gets too hot. This is why Samson's motor warranty is > double that of Green Star (Samson 10 years, Green > Star 5 years). > High Nutrient and Enzyme Content the least > oxidation occurs with the lowest RPM, so Samson's 80 > rpm retains the maximum nutrients. Plus Green Star > alters the sub-atomic structure (adds electrons > through magnetism) which would denature the > nutrients. > Long Lasting Juice this is NOT a benefit. No raw > foodist wants to extend the shelf life of their > food. If we did, we'd eat pasta and breakfast cereal > instead of wheatgrass juice, fresh fruits and > just-picked greens. > Pulp-Free Juice Samson juice is pulpier and this > to me is a benefit (pulp helps to sweep debris from > colon, like a broom) or use Samson's strainer to > separate the pulp. > Juices Wheat Grass Samson juice is as good as a > dedicated wheatgrass juicer, whereas Green Star > creates excess foam in wheatgrass juice. > Juices Herbs (sage, horsetail) so does Samson, > and in addition Samson and Omega 8002 are the only > juicers that juice aloe vera leaves and pine needles > (if you have a hankering for pine). > Juices Fruit the Green Star twin gears *require* > the fiber in veggies to push the pulp through the > machine, or it backs up. Samson's single gear easily > handles soft fruits like kiwi and melon. Plus Samson > juices sugar cane, Green Star will not. Both juicers > juice all vegetables, including celery and green > leaves. > Low Noise Operation I haven't heard both, but > the rule of thumb is: the faster a juicer turns > (revolutions per minute or rpm) the louder the > machine. Samson is 80 rpm, Green Star 110, so my bet > is on Samson as the quieter. Compare Champion at > 2,700 rpm and centrifugal ejection juicers at 7,000 > rpm. > Easy to Operate and Clean give me a break, look > at the photo of twin gears above. Green Star is > toughest of all juicers to clean. As for easy to > operate, one web site comparing all juicers, states: > " These machines [Green Star, Green Power] are not > for the faint or frail hearted as some pressure is > needed to feed the produce into the machine. " I can > imagine, with those interlocking twin gears. > Makes Pasta Samson comes with two nozzles for > both pasta and noodles, Green Star has only one > pasta screw. > Makes Nut Butters the same site that sells all > juicers (their price for Samson is $269 with > shipping) writes: " I have tried making RAW almond > butter in the Samson, it turned out fairly well, and > in the Green Star, it basically turned the almonds > into powder... not quite a butter. " I make very > quick and easy nut-butters of the soft " wet " nuts > like macedamia, walnut, pecan, in my Samson these > nuts don't grind in a coffee grinder, as almond will > and there's no sticky mess to clean up. > Makes Baby Food and Desserts both Samson and > Green Star produce creamy fruit sorbets from frozen > fruit (they're delicious, like frozen yogurt) but > the same site that tested both writes: " Samson seems > to get the sorbets a bit more " fine " than the Green > Star. " This would apply to baby foods too. > Accessories Included all are included with the > Samson special here at $219. For Green Star, it > depends on which model you buy. > Warranty Samson is 10 years on motor, 5 years on > parts, Green Star is 5 years on motor and parts, > Green Power is 2 years on motor and parts. > AND Green Star makes you pay for magnetized juice > > Magnetic Technology A Note on Altering Electron > Structure Through MagnetismWe Are Living Miracles. > How does it all work? The magic of a heart beating > in perfect rhythm? A heart that loses its rhythm in > a heart attack feels like a million squiggly eels in > your hand. > Its chemistry. One atom marries another atom or > divorces it. How do they decide whether to kiss or > run? Usually one atom needs an electron and the > other has one to give, so they stay together and > share the electron. > Whats critical to the union of our two young atoms > is that the electron they share must be in the right > place, facing the right direction. > Its as if when squeezed in the rush hour train, your > cheek can stick to the person next to you (a) if > youre both the same height thats electron place or > position, and (b) if your left cheek is next to her > or his right cheek, but *not* left cheek thats > electron direction or orientation. > But it takes energy for your two cheeks to stick > together. We dont collapse in the arms of just > anyone, unless we have a heart attack. We make a > calculated move only toward the cheek we want. > In our body, enzymes provide this energy. Enzymes > bring atoms together and split them up. Matchmaker, > matchmaker, make me a match! > Enzymes are factory slaves, forced to work on strict > assembly lines. Each enzyme performs only one job > over and over, sometimes millions of times a minute > it's reaction-specific. And each enzyme does its job > with only one molecule of a specific structure it's > substrate-specific. > Change electron position and orientation, and you > change the structure of the molecule, the substrate. > How can your enzyme then work on it? > === message truncated === Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 5, 2004 Alex, Sounds great, I'd like to go ahead and order one. I don't see them on Rawguru, can we do it via e-mail, or should I give you a call ? Let me know what works best for you. Rufus --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > $184.9 plus free shipping! > > > Rufus Shaw <rufus10_99 wrote:Hi Alex, > > How much do you sell the Solostar for ? > > Rufus > > > --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > > > Personally...I like the solostar juicer which is a > > newer version of the samson juicer and produces > > drier pulp and is easier to clean. > > > > Peace > > Alex > > > > howard huey <huey_htm wrote: > > > > > > Samson has 2 juicer models: the plain one and the > > Ultra. Can you please tell me the difference and > the > > one you recommend. > > --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > > Hey Chris, why the 3000 model? > > The only difference between the 1000 and 3000 is > > that the 3000 comes with all those attachments > that > > raw foodists don't even use. Don't waste your > money > > on a 3000, if you really want a greenstar juicer, > > get the 1000 model. I sell them for $347.99 plus > > free shipping. > > In my experience the greenstar gears are tough to > > clean after something oily like when making nut > > butter and also the machine is too bulky.... Read > > the below article why a Samson or SoloStar is just > > as good or even better than a Greenstar juicer. > > > > Samson Is Superior to Green Star and Costs > > LessPlease beware of Juicer Comparison charts on > > some web sites like the chart below. Using Green > > Star's own chart, fact-by-fact I show that the > > Samson is far superior on every count quicker to > > clean, gives you non-foamy juice, smoother baby > > foods and sorbets, and actual raw nut butters (not > > the Green Star's nut powders). > > Everyone agrees the Green Star is a PAIN to clean, > > really tedious to scrub and scrub and scrub, > > especially the screens and twin gears, while the > > Samson juicer is a one-minute rinse. > > Twin gear of Green Star juicer time-consuming > to > > clean all the pulp fibers out of pocket recess in > > every tooth of both gears plus I'm told the > screens > > are such a pain to scrub and scrub. Single screw > of > > Samson juicer quick to clean, pulp easily washes > > off, no inaccessible fibers.When cleaning takes a > > long time, you don't juice as often as you should, > > or would love. > > Worse still, at the core of each Green Star twin > > gear is a series of in-line magnets that produce a > > focused magnetic field of 2600 gauss through which > > the juice flows. I'm sorry, but I do *not* want a > > force on the level of physics to alter the > > sub-atomic structure of my juice. This denaturing > of > > Nature's perfectly balanced chemistry is the very > > thing raw foodists are *against.* > > The Samson simply crushes or extracts the fiber, > > depending on whether you're making fat-free > dessert > > or fresh juice. This is a physical change, not > > chemical. There's no stripping of electrons (which > > the heat of centrifugal juicers does) and there's > no > > adding of electrons (which magnetism does). > > The gentle grinding of the Samson auger (screw) > > cannot break the forces holding electrons in > place. > > The only forces strong enough to shove electrons > > around are those on the level of physics, like > heat, > > pressure, light, and magnetism. These are the > forces > > that food factories use. > > Green Star mentions a " 72 Hour Fresh Juice > Stability > > Study " which showed " the lowest bacteria > > proliferation. " This to me is scary. If the > bacteria > > don't want it, I don't want it. If the enzymes in > > microbes can't break down the food, then the > enzymes > > in my body will have an equally tough time. This > is > > true whether we're talking breakfast cereal or > > juice. > > Facts on Juicer Comparison ChartLet's compare the > > newest Green Power model, the Green Star, with the > > powerful Samson. To me, both the Samson and Green > > Star juicers are masticating juicers masticate > > means to grind or crush, e.g. you masticate food > > between your teeth. > > The Green Power chart above claims Green Star is > the > > only juicer with: > > Low Operating RPM (revolutions per minute) in > > fact Samson is lower at 80 rpm, Green Star is 110 > > rpm. > > Dry Pulp Samson is the only juicer with > > adjustable *three* squeezing strengths in drum cap > > to ensure driest pulp. > > Low Heat and Physical Shock Samson has thermal > > overload protection that switches motor off, if it > > gets too hot. This is why Samson's motor warranty > is > > double that of Green Star (Samson 10 years, Green > > Star 5 years). > > High Nutrient and Enzyme Content the least > > oxidation occurs with the lowest RPM, so Samson's > 80 > > rpm retains the maximum nutrients. Plus Green Star > > alters the sub-atomic structure (adds electrons > > through magnetism) which would denature the > > nutrients. > > Long Lasting Juice this is NOT a benefit. No > raw > > foodist wants to extend the shelf life of their > > food. If we did, we'd eat pasta and breakfast > cereal > > instead of wheatgrass juice, fresh fruits and > > just-picked greens. > > Pulp-Free Juice Samson juice is pulpier and > this > > to me is a benefit (pulp helps to sweep debris > from > > colon, like a broom) or use Samson's strainer to > > separate the pulp. > > Juices Wheat Grass Samson juice is as good as > a > > dedicated wheatgrass juicer, whereas Green Star > > creates excess foam in wheatgrass juice. > > Juices Herbs (sage, horsetail) so does Samson, > > and in addition Samson and Omega 8002 are the only > > juicers that juice aloe vera leaves and pine > needles > > (if you have a hankering for pine). > > Juices Fruit the Green Star twin gears > *require* > > the fiber in veggies to push the pulp through the > > machine, or it backs up. Samson's single gear > easily > > handles soft fruits like kiwi and melon. Plus > Samson > > juices sugar cane, Green Star will not. Both > juicers > > juice all vegetables, including celery and green > > leaves. > > Low Noise Operation I haven't heard both, but > > the rule of thumb is: the faster a juicer turns > > (revolutions per minute or rpm) the louder the > > machine. Samson is 80 rpm, Green Star 110, so my > bet > > is on Samson as the quieter. Compare Champion at > > 2,700 rpm and centrifugal ejection juicers at > 7,000 > > rpm. > > Easy to Operate and Clean give me a break, > look > > at the photo of twin gears above. Green Star is > > toughest of all juicers to clean. As for easy to > > operate, one web site comparing all juicers, > states: > > " These machines [Green Star, Green Power] are not > > for the faint or frail hearted as some pressure is > > needed to feed the produce into the machine. " I > can > > imagine, with those interlocking twin gears. > > Makes Pasta Samson comes with two nozzles for > > both pasta and noodles, Green Star has only one > > pasta screw. > > Makes Nut Butters the same site that sells all > > juicers (their price for Samson is $269 with > > shipping) writes: " I have tried making RAW almond > > butter in the Samson, it turned out fairly well, > and > > in the Green Star, it basically turned the almonds > > into powder... not quite a butter. " I make very > > quick and easy nut-butters of the soft " wet " nuts > > like macedamia, walnut, pecan, in my Samson these > > nuts don't grind in a coffee grinder, as almond > will > > and there's no sticky mess to clean up. > > Makes Baby Food and Desserts both Samson and > > Green Star produce creamy fruit sorbets from > frozen > === message truncated === Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 5, 2004 Great! You can order one by sending me a payment by paypal to alex or call me with your credit card number or send me a check or money order to RawGuru, INC. 3211 De Leon St. #1 Tampa, Fl. 33609 If paying be paypal or credit card please add 5.00 extra for the transcation fee. Call me at 1-800-577-4RAW to order by CC. Have the best day ever! Alex Rufus Shaw <rufus10_99 wrote:Alex, Sounds great, I'd like to go ahead and order one. I don't see them on Rawguru, can we do it via e-mail, or should I give you a call ? Let me know what works best for you. Rufus --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > $184.9 plus free shipping! > > > Rufus Shaw <rufus10_99 wrote:Hi Alex, > > How much do you sell the Solostar for ? > > Rufus > > > --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > > > Personally...I like the solostar juicer which is a > > newer version of the samson juicer and produces > > drier pulp and is easier to clean. > > > > Peace > > Alex > > > > howard huey <huey_htm wrote: > > > > > > Samson has 2 juicer models: the plain one and the > > Ultra. Can you please tell me the difference and > the > > one you recommend. > > --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > > Hey Chris, why the 3000 model? > > The only difference between the 1000 and 3000 is > > that the 3000 comes with all those attachments > that > > raw foodists don't even use. Don't waste your > money > > on a 3000, if you really want a greenstar juicer, > > get the 1000 model. I sell them for $347.99 plus > > free shipping. > > In my experience the greenstar gears are tough to > > clean after something oily like when making nut > > butter and also the machine is too bulky.... Read > > the below article why a Samson or SoloStar is just > > as good or even better than a Greenstar juicer. > > > > Samson Is Superior to Green Star and Costs > > LessPlease beware of Juicer Comparison charts on > > some web sites like the chart below. Using Green > > Star's own chart, fact-by-fact I show that the > > Samson is far superior on every count quicker to > > clean, gives you non-foamy juice, smoother baby > > foods and sorbets, and actual raw nut butters (not > > the Green Star's nut powders). > > Everyone agrees the Green Star is a PAIN to clean, > > really tedious to scrub and scrub and scrub, > > especially the screens and twin gears, while the > > Samson juicer is a one-minute rinse. > > Twin gear of Green Star juicer time-consuming > to > > clean all the pulp fibers out of pocket recess in > > every tooth of both gears plus I'm told the > screens > > are such a pain to scrub and scrub. Single screw > of > > Samson juicer quick to clean, pulp easily washes > > off, no inaccessible fibers.When cleaning takes a > > long time, you don't juice as often as you should, > > or would love. > > Worse still, at the core of each Green Star twin > > gear is a series of in-line magnets that produce a > > focused magnetic field of 2600 gauss through which > > the juice flows. I'm sorry, but I do *not* want a > > force on the level of physics to alter the > > sub-atomic structure of my juice. This denaturing > of > > Nature's perfectly balanced chemistry is the very > > thing raw foodists are *against.* > > The Samson simply crushes or extracts the fiber, > > depending on whether you're making fat-free > dessert > > or fresh juice. This is a physical change, not > > chemical. There's no stripping of electrons (which > > the heat of centrifugal juicers does) and there's > no > > adding of electrons (which magnetism does). > > The gentle grinding of the Samson auger (screw) > > cannot break the forces holding electrons in > place. > > The only forces strong enough to shove electrons > > around are those on the level of physics, like > heat, > > pressure, light, and magnetism. These are the > forces > > that food factories use. > > Green Star mentions a " 72 Hour Fresh Juice > Stability > > Study " which showed " the lowest bacteria > > proliferation. " This to me is scary. If the > bacteria > > don't want it, I don't want it. If the enzymes in > > microbes can't break down the food, then the > enzymes > > in my body will have an equally tough time. This > is > > true whether we're talking breakfast cereal or > > juice. > > Facts on Juicer Comparison ChartLet's compare the > > newest Green Power model, the Green Star, with the > > powerful Samson. To me, both the Samson and Green > > Star juicers are masticating juicers masticate > > means to grind or crush, e.g. you masticate food > > between your teeth. > > The Green Power chart above claims Green Star is > the > > only juicer with: > > Low Operating RPM (revolutions per minute) in > > fact Samson is lower at 80 rpm, Green Star is 110 > > rpm. > > Dry Pulp Samson is the only juicer with > > adjustable *three* squeezing strengths in drum cap > > to ensure driest pulp. > > Low Heat and Physical Shock Samson has thermal > > overload protection that switches motor off, if it > > gets too hot. This is why Samson's motor warranty > is > > double that of Green Star (Samson 10 years, Green > > Star 5 years). > > High Nutrient and Enzyme Content the least > > oxidation occurs with the lowest RPM, so Samson's > 80 > > rpm retains the maximum nutrients. Plus Green Star > > alters the sub-atomic structure (adds electrons > > through magnetism) which would denature the > > nutrients. > > Long Lasting Juice this is NOT a benefit. No > raw > > foodist wants to extend the shelf life of their > > food. If we did, we'd eat pasta and breakfast > cereal > > instead of wheatgrass juice, fresh fruits and > > just-picked greens. > > Pulp-Free Juice Samson juice is pulpier and > this > > to me is a benefit (pulp helps to sweep debris > from > > colon, like a broom) or use Samson's strainer to > > separate the pulp. > > Juices Wheat Grass Samson juice is as good as > a > > dedicated wheatgrass juicer, whereas Green Star > > creates excess foam in wheatgrass juice. > > Juices Herbs (sage, horsetail) so does Samson, > > and in addition Samson and Omega 8002 are the only > > juicers that juice aloe vera leaves and pine > needles > > (if you have a hankering for pine). > > Juices Fruit the Green Star twin gears > *require* > > the fiber in veggies to push the pulp through the > > machine, or it backs up. Samson's single gear > easily > > handles soft fruits like kiwi and melon. Plus > Samson > > juices sugar cane, Green Star will not. Both > juicers > > juice all vegetables, including celery and green > > leaves. > > Low Noise Operation I haven't heard both, but > > the rule of thumb is: the faster a juicer turns > > (revolutions per minute or rpm) the louder the > > machine. Samson is 80 rpm, Green Star 110, so my > bet > > is on Samson as the quieter. Compare Champion at > > 2,700 rpm and centrifugal ejection juicers at > 7,000 > > rpm. > > Easy to Operate and Clean give me a break, > look > > at the photo of twin gears above. Green Star is > > toughest of all juicers to clean. As for easy to > > operate, one web site comparing all juicers, > states: > > " These machines [Green Star, Green Power] are not > > for the faint or frail hearted as some pressure is > > needed to feed the produce into the machine. " I > can > > imagine, with those interlocking twin gears. > > Makes Pasta Samson comes with two nozzles for > > both pasta and noodles, Green Star has only one > > pasta screw. > > Makes Nut Butters the same site that sells all > > juicers (their price for Samson is $269 with > > shipping) writes: " I have tried making RAW almond > > butter in the Samson, it turned out fairly well, > and > > in the Green Star, it basically turned the almonds > > into powder... not quite a butter. " I make very > > quick and easy nut-butters of the soft " wet " nuts > > like macedamia, walnut, pecan, in my Samson these > > nuts don't grind in a coffee grinder, as almond > will > > and there's no sticky mess to clean up. > > Makes Baby Food and Desserts both Samson and > > Green Star produce creamy fruit sorbets from > frozen > === message truncated === Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 5, 2004 I'm surprised you folks don't take your business offlist as a courtesy to others on the list. Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: Great! You can order one by sending me a payment by paypal to alex or call me with your credit card number or send me a check or money order to RawGuru, INC. 3211 De Leon St. #1 Tampa, Fl. 33609 If paying be paypal or credit card please add 5.00 extra for the transcation fee. Call me at 1-800-577-4RAW to order by CC. Have the best day ever! Alex Rufus Shaw <rufus10_99 wrote:Alex, Sounds great, I'd like to go ahead and order one. I don't see them on Rawguru, can we do it via e-mail, or should I give you a call ? Let me know what works best for you. Rufus --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > $184.9 plus free shipping! > > > Rufus Shaw <rufus10_99 wrote:Hi Alex, > > How much do you sell the Solostar for ? > > Rufus > > > --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > > > Personally...I like the solostar juicer which is a > > newer version of the samson juicer and produces > > drier pulp and is easier to clean. > > > > Peace > > Alex > > > > howard huey <huey_htm wrote: > > > > > > Samson has 2 juicer models: the plain one and the > > Ultra. Can you please tell me the difference and > the > > one you recommend. > > --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: > > Hey Chris, why the 3000 model? > > The only difference between the 1000 and 3000 is > > that the 3000 comes with all those attachments > that > > raw foodists don't even use. Don't waste your > money > > on a 3000, if you really want a greenstar juicer, > > get the 1000 model. I sell them for $347.99 plus > > free shipping. > > In my experience the greenstar gears are tough to > > clean after something oily like when making nut > > butter and also the machine is too bulky.... Read > > the below article why a Samson or SoloStar is just > > as good or even better than a Greenstar juicer. > > > > Samson Is Superior to Green Star and Costs > > LessPlease beware of Juicer Comparison charts on > > some web sites like the chart below. Using Green > > Star's own chart, fact-by-fact I show that the > > Samson is far superior on every count quicker to > > clean, gives you non-foamy juice, smoother baby > > foods and sorbets, and actual raw nut butters (not > > the Green Star's nut powders). > > Everyone agrees the Green Star is a PAIN to clean, > > really tedious to scrub and scrub and scrub, > > especially the screens and twin gears, while the > > Samson juicer is a one-minute rinse. > > Twin gear of Green Star juicer time-consuming > to > > clean all the pulp fibers out of pocket recess in > > every tooth of both gears plus I'm told the > screens > > are such a pain to scrub and scrub. Single screw > of > > Samson juicer quick to clean, pulp easily washes > > off, no inaccessible fibers.When cleaning takes a > > long time, you don't juice as often as you should, > > or would love. > > Worse still, at the core of each Green Star twin > > gear is a series of in-line magnets that produce a > > focused magnetic field of 2600 gauss through which > > the juice flows. I'm sorry, but I do *not* want a > > force on the level of physics to alter the > > sub-atomic structure of my juice. This denaturing > of > > Nature's perfectly balanced chemistry is the very > > thing raw foodists are *against.* > > The Samson simply crushes or extracts the fiber, > > depending on whether you're making fat-free > dessert > > or fresh juice. This is a physical change, not > > chemical. There's no stripping of electrons (which > > the heat of centrifugal juicers does) and there's > no > > adding of electrons (which magnetism does). > > The gentle grinding of the Samson auger (screw) > > cannot break the forces holding electrons in > place. > > The only forces strong enough to shove electrons > > around are those on the level of physics, like > heat, > > pressure, light, and magnetism. These are the > forces > > that food factories use. > > Green Star mentions a " 72 Hour Fresh Juice > Stability > > Study " which showed " the lowest bacteria > > proliferation. " This to me is scary. If the > bacteria > > don't want it, I don't want it. If the enzymes in > > microbes can't break down the food, then the > enzymes > > in my body will have an equally tough time. This > is > > true whether we're talking breakfast cereal or > > juice. > > Facts on Juicer Comparison ChartLet's compare the > > newest Green Power model, the Green Star, with the > > powerful Samson. To me, both the Samson and Green > > Star juicers are masticating juicers masticate > > means to grind or crush, e.g. you masticate food > > between your teeth. > > The Green Power chart above claims Green Star is > the > > only juicer with: > > Low Operating RPM (revolutions per minute) in > > fact Samson is lower at 80 rpm, Green Star is 110 > > rpm. > > Dry Pulp Samson is the only juicer with > > adjustable *three* squeezing strengths in drum cap > > to ensure driest pulp. > > Low Heat and Physical Shock Samson has thermal > > overload protection that switches motor off, if it > > gets too hot. This is why Samson's motor warranty > is > > double that of Green Star (Samson 10 years, Green > > Star 5 years). > > High Nutrient and Enzyme Content the least > > oxidation occurs with the lowest RPM, so Samson's > 80 > > rpm retains the maximum nutrients. Plus Green Star > > alters the sub-atomic structure (adds electrons > > through magnetism) which would denature the > > nutrients. > > Long Lasting Juice this is NOT a benefit. No > raw > > foodist wants to extend the shelf life of their > > food. If we did, we'd eat pasta and breakfast > cereal > > instead of wheatgrass juice, fresh fruits and > > just-picked greens. > > Pulp-Free Juice Samson juice is pulpier and > this > > to me is a benefit (pulp helps to sweep debris > from > > colon, like a broom) or use Samson's strainer to > > separate the pulp. > > Juices Wheat Grass Samson juice is as good as > a > > dedicated wheatgrass juicer, whereas Green Star > > creates excess foam in wheatgrass juice. > > Juices Herbs (sage, horsetail) so does Samson, > > and in addition Samson and Omega 8002 are the only > > juicers that juice aloe vera leaves and pine > needles > > (if you have a hankering for pine). > > Juices Fruit the Green Star twin gears > *require* > > the fiber in veggies to push the pulp through the > > machine, or it backs up. Samson's single gear > easily > > handles soft fruits like kiwi and melon. Plus > Samson > > juices sugar cane, Green Star will not. Both > juicers > > juice all vegetables, including celery and green > > leaves. > > Low Noise Operation I haven't heard both, but > > the rule of thumb is: the faster a juicer turns > > (revolutions per minute or rpm) the louder the > > machine. Samson is 80 rpm, Green Star 110, so my > bet > > is on Samson as the quieter. Compare Champion at > > 2,700 rpm and centrifugal ejection juicers at > 7,000 > > rpm. > > Easy to Operate and Clean give me a break, > look > > at the photo of twin gears above. Green Star is > > toughest of all juicers to clean. As for easy to > > operate, one web site comparing all juicers, > states: > > " These machines [Green Star, Green Power] are not > > for the faint or frail hearted as some pressure is > > needed to feed the produce into the machine. " I > can > > imagine, with those interlocking twin gears. > > Makes Pasta Samson comes with two nozzles for > > both pasta and noodles, Green Star has only one > > pasta screw. > > Makes Nut Butters the same site that sells all > > juicers (their price for Samson is $269 with > > shipping) writes: " I have tried making RAW almond > > butter in the Samson, it turned out fairly well, > and > > in the Green Star, it basically turned the almonds > > into powder... not quite a butter. " I make very > > quick and easy nut-butters of the soft " wet " nuts > > like macedamia, walnut, pecan, in my Samson these > > nuts don't grind in a coffee grinder, as almond > will > > and there's no sticky mess to clean up. > > Makes Baby Food and Desserts both Samson and > > Green Star produce creamy fruit sorbets from > frozen > === message truncated === Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 6, 2004 I got my Solostar juicer on Monday of this week (from Alex). I was amazed at how little pulp was produced from the wheat grass. It is very easy to clean. I usually have trouble taking things apart and getting them back together - no problem with this one. I didn't have to ask Jim for help. I have not done anything but wheat grass yet but I plan to make some other juices today and try some almond butter. I had been thinking of getting just an electric wheat grass juicer because I have an old Champion for other things. I am very glad I got the Solostar. Also I got it from Alex who was very helpful and it arrived on the day it was supposed to. So thanks, Alex! I can heartily reccomend both the juicer and Alex. CaraLea - Alex Malinsky rawfood Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:40 AM Re: [Raw Food] juicer Personally...I like the solostar juicer which is a newer version of the samson juicer and produces drier pulp and is easier to clean. Peace Alex howard huey <huey_htm wrote: Samson has 2 juicer models: the plain one and the Ultra. Can you please tell me the difference and the one you recommend. --- Alex Malinsky <alexmalinsky wrote: Hey Chris, why the 3000 model? The only difference between the 1000 and 3000 is that the 3000 comes with all those attachments that raw foodists don't even use. Don't waste your money on a 3000, if you really want a greenstar juicer, get the 1000 model. I sell them for $347.99 plus free shipping. In my experience the greenstar gears are tough to clean after something oily like when making nut butter and also the machine is too bulky.... Read the below article why a Samson or SoloStar is just as good or even better than a Greenstar juicer. Samson Is Superior to Green Star and Costs LessPlease beware of Juicer Comparison charts on some web sites like the chart below. Using Green Star's own chart, fact-by-fact I show that the Samson is far superior on every count quicker to clean, gives you non-foamy juice, smoother baby foods and sorbets, and actual raw nut butters (not the Green Star's nut powders). Everyone agrees the Green Star is a PAIN to clean, really tedious to scrub and scrub and scrub, especially the screens and twin gears, while the Samson juicer is a one-minute rinse. Twin gear of Green Star juicer time-consuming to clean all the pulp fibers out of pocket recess in every tooth of both gears plus I'm told the screens are such a pain to scrub and scrub. Single screw of Samson juicer quick to clean, pulp easily washes off, no inaccessible fibers.When cleaning takes a long time, you don't juice as often as you should, or would love. Worse still, at the core of each Green Star twin gear is a series of in-line magnets that produce a focused magnetic field of 2600 gauss through which the juice flows. I'm sorry, but I do *not* want a force on the level of physics to alter the sub-atomic structure of my juice. This denaturing of Nature's perfectly balanced chemistry is the very thing raw foodists are *against.* The Samson simply crushes or extracts the fiber, depending on whether you're making fat-free dessert or fresh juice. This is a physical change, not chemical. There's no stripping of electrons (which the heat of centrifugal juicers does) and there's no adding of electrons (which magnetism does). The gentle grinding of the Samson auger (screw) cannot break the forces holding electrons in place. The only forces strong enough to shove electrons around are those on the level of physics, like heat, pressure, light, and magnetism. These are the forces that food factories use. Green Star mentions a " 72 Hour Fresh Juice Stability Study " which showed " the lowest bacteria proliferation. " This to me is scary. If the bacteria don't want it, I don't want it. If the enzymes in microbes can't break down the food, then the enzymes in my body will have an equally tough time. This is true whether we're talking breakfast cereal or juice. Facts on Juicer Comparison ChartLet's compare the newest Green Power model, the Green Star, with the powerful Samson. To me, both the Samson and Green Star juicers are masticating juicers masticate means to grind or crush, e.g. you masticate food between your teeth. The Green Power chart above claims Green Star is the only juicer with: Low Operating RPM (revolutions per minute) in fact Samson is lower at 80 rpm, Green Star is 110 rpm. Dry Pulp Samson is the only juicer with adjustable *three* squeezing strengths in drum cap to ensure driest pulp. Low Heat and Physical Shock Samson has thermal overload protection that switches motor off, if it gets too hot. This is why Samson's motor warranty is double that of Green Star (Samson 10 years, Green Star 5 years). High Nutrient and Enzyme Content the least oxidation occurs with the lowest RPM, so Samson's 80 rpm retains the maximum nutrients. Plus Green Star alters the sub-atomic structure (adds electrons through magnetism) which would denature the nutrients. Long Lasting Juice this is NOT a benefit. No raw foodist wants to extend the shelf life of their food. If we did, we'd eat pasta and breakfast cereal instead of wheatgrass juice, fresh fruits and just-picked greens. Pulp-Free Juice Samson juice is pulpier and this to me is a benefit (pulp helps to sweep debris from colon, like a broom) or use Samson's strainer to separate the pulp. Juices Wheat Grass Samson juice is as good as a dedicated wheatgrass juicer, whereas Green Star creates excess foam in wheatgrass juice. Juices Herbs (sage, horsetail) so does Samson, and in addition Samson and Omega 8002 are the only juicers that juice aloe vera leaves and pine needles (if you have a hankering for pine). Juices Fruit the Green Star twin gears *require* the fiber in veggies to push the pulp through the machine, or it backs up. Samson's single gear easily handles soft fruits like kiwi and melon. Plus Samson juices sugar cane, Green Star will not. Both juicers juice all vegetables, including celery and green leaves. Low Noise Operation I haven't heard both, but the rule of thumb is: the faster a juicer turns (revolutions per minute or rpm) the louder the machine. Samson is 80 rpm, Green Star 110, so my bet is on Samson as the quieter. Compare Champion at 2,700 rpm and centrifugal ejection juicers at 7,000 rpm. Easy to Operate and Clean give me a break, look at the photo of twin gears above. Green Star is toughest of all juicers to clean. As for easy to operate, one web site comparing all juicers, states: " These machines [Green Star, Green Power] are not for the faint or frail hearted as some pressure is needed to feed the produce into the machine. " I can imagine, with those interlocking twin gears. Makes Pasta Samson comes with two nozzles for both pasta and noodles, Green Star has only one pasta screw. Makes Nut Butters the same site that sells all juicers (their price for Samson is $269 with shipping) writes: " I have tried making RAW almond butter in the Samson, it turned out fairly well, and in the Green Star, it basically turned the almonds into powder... not quite a butter. " I make very quick and easy nut-butters of the soft " wet " nuts like macedamia, walnut, pecan, in my Samson these nuts don't grind in a coffee grinder, as almond will and there's no sticky mess to clean up. Makes Baby Food and Desserts both Samson and Green Star produce creamy fruit sorbets from frozen fruit (they're delicious, like frozen yogurt) but the same site that tested both writes: " Samson seems to get the sorbets a bit more " fine " than the Green Star. " This would apply to baby foods too. Accessories Included all are included with the Samson special here at $219. For Green Star, it depends on which model you buy. Warranty Samson is 10 years on motor, 5 years on parts, Green Star is 5 years on motor and parts, Green Power is 2 years on motor and parts. AND Green Star makes you pay for magnetized juice Magnetic Technology A Note on Altering Electron Structure Through MagnetismWe Are Living Miracles. How does it all work? The magic of a heart beating in perfect rhythm? A heart that loses its rhythm in a heart attack feels like a million squiggly eels in your hand. Its chemistry. One atom marries another atom or divorces it. How do they decide whether to kiss or run? Usually one atom needs an electron and the other has one to give, so they stay together and share the electron. Whats critical to the union of our two young atoms is that the electron they share must be in the right place, facing the right direction. Its as if when squeezed in the rush hour train, your cheek can stick to the person next to you (a) if youre both the same height thats electron place or position, and (b) if your left cheek is next to her or his right cheek, but *not* left cheek thats electron direction or orientation. But it takes energy for your two cheeks to stick together. We dont collapse in the arms of just anyone, unless we have a heart attack. We make a calculated move only toward the cheek we want. In our body, enzymes provide this energy. Enzymes bring atoms together and split them up. Matchmaker, matchmaker, make me a match! Enzymes are factory slaves, forced to work on strict assembly lines. Each enzyme performs only one job over and over, sometimes millions of times a minute it's reaction-specific. And each enzyme does its job with only one molecule of a specific structure it's substrate-specific. Change electron position and orientation, and you change the structure of the molecule, the substrate. How can your enzyme then work on it? Our enzymes evolved over billions of years to work on molecules as they occur in nature with their structures unaltered by human machines, chemicals, irradiation, or magnetism. When you cook food (or magnetize it, or irradiate it) the electrons are pushed out of position and orientation, so your enzymes have a tough time connecting with them. With electrons all squiff, it's not easy for an enzyme to slice a molecule in two, e.g. when digesting your food. And it's not easy for an enzyme to marry two molecules into one to build your bone, blood, nerves, hair, thoughts, feelings, all the magic of you! This is why Ann Wigmore insisted on 100% raw organic foods for healing. Only the physical forces of blending, or juicing with a low rpm juicer like the Samson, are permissible. For a *physical* force such as the Samson's crushing or mincing action to alter electrons would be like cleaning your fingernails with a steam-roller. It's impossible (thank you to Dr. Udo Erasmus, author of Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill, for giving me this analogy over the telephone, when discussing blending). Only sub-atomic *physics* forces, like magnetism, can pull electrons apart. With the Samson juicer, the position and orientation of each electron, so critical to chemical reactions, stays the way it is in Nature, in perfect balance. That's my understanding... And that's why I chose the Samson, because I trust my Knowledge. Chris Williams <chris_williams67 wrote: Personally I would recommend the Green Star 3000 but that's a little higher than what you listed as the range your looking at. I would recommend going to this site http://www.discountjuicers.com/demo/ and check out the videos of the various juicers and look at the various videos and information links. Don't get in a hurry to get one just to have one. Take your time and talk to folks that have the various machines and get their honest feedback. I'll give you my take on the green star. Great machine for green leafy begis, root vegi's etc. I was told and the literature says it's Not the best machine in the world for citrus but it does it quite well. I like it better thean the juicman that juiced things with the spnning basket thing with small blades in it and that won't work well for wheat grass. Now I was told the green star was hard to clean taking 15 - 20 min. It doesn't take that long. The twin gears don't heat the juice like the juiceman juicer so nutrients aren't lost. Many of the machines listed at the site have twin gears or single gears this squeezes the juice out not tearing up the vegi and fruit like some of the others. We use the pulp that is extruded for fiber in cooking. You can also put it back through the machine if you think there may be a little more juice you can get out of it. So I would recommend not taking just one persons opinion, getting a many opinions and studying as much material as possible the site above gives you a start and there are groups on and MSN that are dedicated to Juiceing, they can provide you with a lot of feedback and information as well. My wife and I made a decision that this was basically preventive medicine and we couldn't put a pricetag on our health So while Ioriginally wanted to go with the cheapest we could get by with I changed my mind after talking to folks and studying to pay the additional $$. So we waited a little bit longer to get the additional $$ and purchased the machine we have. We use it all the time and even take the juicer to church for use there during potlucks . Hope this helps. Chris - Stargazer rawfood Wednesday, September 22, 2004 10:55 AM Re: [Raw Food] juicer I'm looking for a juicer too Chris and am just starting to read up on them. The $800+++ juicers I've already scratched off my list and am looking at the $250 +/- ones. I want to mainly juice leafy greens and wheatgrass, along with the few odd carrots and apples. Which ones do you recommend for this kind of usage? ~Amber > > > Hi Renata, a couple of questions that will help us help you. > > 1. What do you consider " reasonable " ? > > 2. What kind of juice do you want to produce, veg, fruit, citrus, > wheatgrass? Because some do things better than others. > > Personally we like the Green Star, I wouldn't have any other. A friend > has a Samson Juicer and she wouldn't trade it for the world . Still another > has the Juiceman and for what she does it works well for her. So it > really depends on what type of juicing you want to do. > > Chris > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Yum, your blend sounds good too! I use a Champion. From what I understand, fresh juice can be refrigerated 3-4 days without too much nutritional damage. It's best drunk fresh, of course, but since my time at home is limited, making juice ahead to take with me is the next best thing. I have even frozen juice to take with us on weekend trips to family, and that has worked well, also. Here is an article (rather complex reading, but some interesting information) that compares the output and enzyme levels of carrot juice when stored for 1-4 days. http://www.hacres.com/Juice_Extractor_Comparison.pdf You need the Adobe Acrobat reader to open this; I believe the study is a couple of years old, but draws some interesting comparisons. Peace, Valerie terry <levamssg wrote: Valerie, What kind of juicer do you use? I have heard that you are supposed to drink the juice right away, unless you use a slow speed method like the green star with gears. I like the idea of making juice ahead to drink whenever. Your blend sounds great - going to give it a try. Right now, every morning I juice: 1 tomato 1 carrot 1 stalk cerery 1 quarter beetroot 1 quarter red pepper 1 scallion sometimes add a hunk of broccoli lately adding some sprouts this makes my version of V8 juice. cheers terry Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 19, 2004 Thanks for all that info Valerie. I have both a centrifigal juicer and a greenstar. We have found the greenstar juice much too pulpy, and it takes a lot more effort to produce juice. However, I do understand it is much better juice. We are used to the other one, so it will take some time to get used to using the greenstar. (it is SO slow). I have considered making juice at night so I don't have the time issue in the mornings. Going to give it a try tonight and see if the juice seems the same tomorrow. cheers terry rawfood , Valerie Mills Daly <valdaly> wrote: > Yum, your blend sounds good too! > > I use a Champion. From what I understand, fresh juice can be refrigerated 3-4 days without too much nutritional damage. It's best drunk fresh, of course, but since my time at home is limited, making juice ahead to take with me is the next best thing. I have even frozen juice to take with us on weekend trips to family, and that has worked well, also. > > Here is an article (rather complex reading, but some interesting information) that compares the output and enzyme levels of carrot juice when stored for 1-4 days. > > http://www.hacres.com/Juice_Extractor_Comparison.pdf > > You need the Adobe Acrobat reader to open this; I believe the study is a couple of years old, but draws some interesting comparisons. > > Peace, > Valerie > > terry <levamssg> wrote: > > > Valerie, > What kind of juicer do you use? I have heard that you are supposed > to drink the juice right away, unless you use a slow speed method > like the green star with gears. I like the idea of making juice > ahead to drink whenever. > > Your blend sounds great - going to give it a try. > Right now, every morning I juice: > 1 tomato > 1 carrot > 1 stalk cerery > 1 quarter beetroot > 1 quarter red pepper > 1 scallion > sometimes add a hunk of broccoli > lately adding some sprouts > > this makes my version of V8 juice. > > cheers > terry > > > > Dress up your holiday email, Hollywood style. Learn more. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 20, 2004 Hi, Terry, you are welcome. Just one thing: you will notice that the juice looks funky after it sits for a while; it's just separating, and a good shake will get it back to normal. The taste is best when freshly made, but there is not that big a taste change the first day or two. Hope it works out for you! Peace, Valerie terry <levamssg wrote: Thanks for all that info Valerie. I have both a centrifigal juicer and a greenstar. We have found the greenstar juice much too pulpy, and it takes a lot more effort to produce juice. However, I do understand it is much better juice. We are used to the other one, so it will take some time to get used to using the greenstar. (it is SO slow). I have considered making juice at night so I don't have the time issue in the mornings. Going to give it a try tonight and see if the juice seems the same tomorrow. Jazz up your holiday email with celebrity designs. Learn more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 3, 2008 I have a Vita-Mix5000,and it works very well for me.It's more or less an extremely high powered blender,so you will have fiber in the juice-but then lots of nutrients are in the fiber,right?Also,grinding seeds and nuts can be done,as well as making soups and many other dishes.They are a little pricey,but I've had mine going on 7 years,and I generally use it at least once a day,and it's still going strong. Rob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 3, 2008 I also have a Vitamix 5000 as well as my Breville Juice Fountain. I definitely agree that if I had to give up one of these machines, it would be the juicer. But the juicer has its place. I use my Vitamix to make my daily green smoothie, but sometimes I want the extra nutrition from juice -- for example, I sometimes use carrot/celery juice as soup stock. And if you are following a cancer or autoimmune protocol, you want juice in addition to those fiber-rich smoothies. :-) Sharon robert burkhardt wrote: > I have a Vita-Mix5000,and it works very well for me.It's more or less an extremely high powered blender,so you will have fiber in the juice-but then lots of nutrients are in the fiber,right?Also,grinding seeds and nuts can be done,as well as making soups and many other dishes.They are a little pricey,but I've had mine going on 7 years,and I generally use it at least once a day,and it's still going strong. > Rob > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2009 I desperately need a new juicer, but I'm sure you aren't in Detroit. LOLPeace, Yvette --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Tara <peechysweett71 wrote: Tara <peechysweett71 Juicer Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 11:47 PM I have a juiceman juicer in great condition that I would like to get rid of, i just dont use it once I got my vitamix. I would like it to go to a good and needy home. Please let me know if you can use it.tara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 6, 2009 I am interested. Where are you located? I have a college student who wants to take a juicer back to school with her. Tara <peechysweett71 Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2009 11:47:24 PM Juicer I have a juiceman juicer in great condition that I would like to get rid of, i just dont use it once I got my vitamix. I would like it to go to a good and needy home. Please let me know if you can use it.tara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 7, 2009 Please see my site for the Vita Mix and many recipes and health information. The Vita Mix is a juicer, and there is not waste of fiber, the fiber is liquified!www.no-bonez.blogspot.comRaw Chef Chelly Sent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerryGoddess Yvette Thu, 6 Aug 2009 04:04:15 -0700 (PDT)Re: Juicer I desperately need a new juicer, but I'm sure you aren't in Detroit. LOLPeace,Yvette--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Tara <peechysweett71 > wrote:Tara <peechysweett71 > Juicer Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 11:47 PM I have a juiceman juicer in great condition that I would like to get rid of, i just dont use it once I got my vitamix. I would like it to go to a good and needy home. Please let me know if you can use it.tara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 11, 2009 nope, sorry. in md. take care tara--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Goddess Yvette <motownwitch wrote: Goddess Yvette <motownwitchRe: Juicer Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:04 AM I desperately need a new juicer, but I'm sure you aren't in Detroit. LOLPeace, Yvette --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Tara <peechysweett71@ > wrote: Tara <peechysweett71@ > Juicer@ .comWednesday, August 5, 2009, 11:47 PM I have a juiceman juicer in great condition that I would like to get rid of, i just dont use it once I got my vitamix. I would like it to go to a good and needy home. Please let me know if you can use it.tara Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 22, 2010 I need to buy a juicer! I thought I would get the breville, but I called them and it is made in China. I would love to find a really good quality BPA free juicer made in the USA or Europe. And ideas??? thanks!! elisa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 23, 2010 We love our Omega juicer. I got it because it can juice wheatgrass. Also all fruits and veggies and nut butters. I would also suggest vitamix. Didn't get that due to the expense. It also does not juice wheatgrass. Laura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 23, 2010 I have a Breville and looove it - I just couldn't find an affordable USA made juicer. I really wanted a Champion (made in the USA) but it will cost you ($600). Not sure if it's BPA free. Let us know what you find! --- On Fri, 1/22/10, ejsrejsr <elisaelisa wrote: ejsrejsr <elisaelisa Juicer Friday, January 22, 2010, 5:56 PM  I need to buy a juicer! I thought I would get the breville, but I called them and it is made in China. I would love to find a really good quality BPA free juicer made in the USA or Europe. And ideas??? thanks!! elisa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 28, 2010 thanks to all of you that responded! I will look into all of your juicers elisa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
