Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2003 In a message dated 3/20/03 7:24:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, veggietart writes: A few months ago, I read in Vegetarian Times about cars using soy-based fuel. Wouldn't this be a great use for that GMO stuff--use it for fuel? problem is...once you let the GMO products out of the genie bottle, you can't get it back in.. lets assume you make a soybean that will create a cleaner burn.. unfortunately, you have no idea wot other effects this soy will have, ..and now since its a aplant, its little pollens float all hither and dither, and wot do you know, fall on an organic field....guess wot,, now that field has diesel soy.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2003 Hi Peter Me too! Wish our government would take the money they are planning to use to destroy Alaska and put it towards cleaner cars - then we could all somewhat afford them and they could leave the wilderness alone! Instead, they will destroy Alaska and take tax money towards their project nikki Pleasures and sorrows should be given free reign. Anonymous , " Peter " <Snowbow@b...> wrote: > Hi Nikki > > > excellent points Graham - I wasn't looking at the big picture > > tho I wouldn't mind getting rid of a lot of these cars > > wish I could afford a hybrid! > > I'm looking forward to the time when cars which can use alternate fuels > (such as hydrogen fuel cell, solar power, etc.) are affordable to the > average person. I'd go for one straight away if I could afford it! > > BB > Peter > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release 25/02/03 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2003 It's a tossup as to whether Bush II has ice water or oil running through his veins. Dick Cheney--well, he definitely has ice water. This is a guy whose company did illegal business with Iraq back in the 1990s. Danielle Support our troops; bring them home safely. ----Original Message Follows---- "nikki_mackovitch" Re: Question Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:41:44 -0000 Hi Peter Me too! Wish our government would take the money they are planning to use to destroy Alaska and put it towards cleaner cars - then we could all somewhat afford them and they could leave the wilderness alone! Instead, they will destroy Alaska and take tax money towards their project nikki Pleasures and sorrows should be given free reign. Anonymous , "Peter" wrote: > Hi Nikki > > > excellent points Graham - I wasn't looking at the big picture > > tho I wouldn't mind getting rid of a lot of these cars > > wish I could afford a hybrid! > > I'm looking forward to the time when cars which can use alternate fuels > (such as hydrogen fuel cell, solar power, etc.) are affordable to the > average person. I'd go for one straight away if I could afford it! > > BB > Peter > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release 25/02/03 MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2003 - EBbrewpunx Friday, March 21, 2003 4:14 PM Re: Re: Question In a message dated 3/20/03 7:24:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, veggietart writes: A few months ago, I read in Vegetarian Times about cars using soy-based fuel. Wouldn't this be a great use for that GMO stuff--use it for fuel? fall on an organic field....guess wot,, now that field has diesel soy....> It's got to be better than petrol and diesel fumes clogging up air space. To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 21, 2003 Hi Danielle > It's a tossup as to whether Bush II has ice water or oil running through his veins. Dick Cheney--well, he definitely has ice > water. This is a guy whose company did illegal business with Iraq back in the 1990s. With Bush, I think it's more sap running through his veins - at least it was before they chopped the tree down to make the ventriloquists dummy. ! BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release 25/02/03 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2003 I don't doubt there are kinks that engineers would need to work out. I read that some people in Takoma Park, Maryland (just outside Washington, DC, and the most enlightened suburb in Utne magazine), use corn burners for power. Maybe they're like hybrids and meant for city/suburban driving, where there are fewer fields. Hey, the piece in the magazine amounted to maybe a paragraph, and I thought I'd expand on that idea. Danielle Support our troops; bring them home safely. ----Original Message Follows---- "simonpjones" Re: Re: Question Fri, 21 Mar 2003 17:37:17 -0000 - EBbrewpunx Friday, March 21, 2003 4:14 PM Re: Re: Question In a message dated 3/20/03 7:24:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, veggietart writes: A few months ago, I read in Vegetarian Times about cars using soy-based fuel. Wouldn't this be a great use for that GMO stuff--use it for fuel? fall on an organic field....guess wot,, now that field has diesel soy....> It's got to be better than petrol and diesel fumes clogging up air space. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2003 There was a short piece in one of these car/driving shows on the telly about diesel vehicles running on vegetable oil. They ran fine. I was sure there would be articles, news stories and controversy about it all week, but nothing. You'd think loads of people would have caught on to it, especially those against the war and anyone boycotting petrol for environmental or humanitarian reasons or even to protest against the fuel tax or Shell testing on animals. It seems great but is it too good to be true? Do vehicles need massive amounts of cooking oil for it to work? simonpjones <simonpjones wrote: -"Peter" <SnowbowThursday, March 20, 2003 4:17 PMRe: Re: QuestionI had a diesel -van which I ran on vegetable- oil, any diesel vechicle willrun on vegetable-oil ( which is at least sustainable ). I have aelectric-peugeot motorcycle which is not a perfect solution to polution..butit's betterthan petrol or diesel fuel.Simon> > tho I wouldn't mind getting rid of a lot of these cars> > wish I could afford a hybrid!>> I'm looking forward to the time when cars which can use alternate fuels> (such as hydrogen fuel cell, solar power, etc.) are affordable to the> average person. I'd go for one straight away if I could afford it!>> BB> Peter>>> ---> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).> Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release 25/02/03>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2003 - Saoirse Soya Saturday, March 22, 2003 1:27 PM Re: Re: Question I believe the vegetable-oil does better milage than diesel and it's cheaper aqnd more importantly it's sustainable. I was working for a removals/ clearance firm for about a year and the truck a( ford luton) was fuelled by vegetable-oil,it had two tanks a small one for the diesel and the normal tank for the veggie-oil. We would start the engine on diesel then with a switch, run it on veggie-oil. I think it was because the veggie-oil is a little thick for starting ford engines. I understand some diesel engines can run with veggie-oil poured straight into the tanks and apparently long distance lorry drivers have been useing it for many years. Last thing it's not illegal as long as you declare it ... by keeping receipts.. There was a short piece in one of these car/driving shows on the telly about diesel vehicles running on vegetable oil. They ran fine. I was sure there would be articles, news stories and controversy about it all week, but nothing. You'd think loads of people would have caught on to it, especially those against the war and anyone boycotting petrol for environmental or humanitarian reasons or even to protest against the fuel tax or Shell testing on animals. It seems great but is it too good to be true? Do vehicles need massive amounts of cooking oil for it to work? simonpjones <simonpjones wrote: -"Peter" <SnowbowThursday, March 20, 2003 4:17 PMRe: Re: QuestionI had a diesel -van which I ran on vegetable- oil, any diesel vechicle willrun on vegetable-oil ( which is at least sustainable ). I have aelectric-peugeot motorcycle which is not a perfect solution to polution..butit's betterthan petrol or diesel fuel.Simon> > tho I wouldn't mind getting rid of a lot of these cars> > wish I could afford a hybrid!>> I'm looking forward to the time when cars which can use alternate fuels> (such as hydrogen fuel cell, solar power, etc.) are affordable to the> average person. I'd go for one straight away if I could afford it!>> BB> Peter>>> ---> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).> Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release 25/02/03>>>> To send an email to - >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2003 yOU MAY ALSO WANT TO CONSIDER THE ETHICAL STANCE OF THE COMPANY WHO MANUFACTURE THE PRODUCTS. THE GREEN PARTY PRODUCE A BOOKLET I BELIEVE ON THIS VERY SUBJECT. MOST COMMERCIALLY PRODUCED CLEANING PRODUCTS DAMAGE THE ENVIROMENT... > Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2003 aRE YOU HAVING A LAUGH? I THOUGHT IT WAS A PETROLEUM BASED PRODUCT.... > Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2003 How far do you want to take it? Stop breathing, you may be ingesting living organisms!....chill out! > Peter H -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 27, 2006 Spinach!! Beans are good too. But I'm a spinach monster lately, eating all I can get. glpveg4life wrote: What are some good vegetarian sources of iron? Thanks. Gayle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 27, 2006 , glpveg4life wrote: > > What are some good vegetarian sources of iron? > > Thanks. > > Gayle > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 27, 2006 http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/nutrition/iron.html Scroll down a little and you see a wonderful chart of all kinds of great veggies, grains, nuts and fruits that are high in it. Remember to include your Vit. C , so the iron will be more readily absorbed. Judy glpveg4life wrote: What are some good vegetarian sources of iron? Thanks. Gayle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 28, 2006 Regarding the question about iron--- I do a lot of cooking in a cast iron skillet. An iron skillet supposedly transfers the mineral into whatever is cooked in it! , Kadee M <abbey_road3012 wrote: > > Spinach!! Beans are good too. But I'm a spinach monster lately, eating all I can get. > > > > glpveg4life wrote: What are some good vegetarian sources of iron? > > Thanks. > > Gayle > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 29, 2006 Thank you to everyone who answered my Iron Question. Gayle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 13, 2007 Wow, wouldn't it be nice to be able to enjoy that stuff again! How about you email or phone the company and ask about them for an explanation? I just had a look at a website on the product, and it says clear as day that barley is one of the primary ingredients, so your question about it's claim to be gluten free is a very valid one! Please let us know what you find out! Deborah My daughter and I drink teeccino herbal coffee. I have never let my husband or son drink it because it has barley in it. But my daughter was reading the label today and saw that it said when it is brewed it is gluten free. how can that be? Does anyone know if it really is? Thanks, Amy . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 22, 2007 I thought Angel Food Cake was vegan.... Joanie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 23, 2007 Sorry Lauren i don't have a recipe for Angel food cake, i have for cashew con chili if ur interested Terry , " bggllw " <bggllw wrote: > > Angel food cake: Does anyone have a vegan recipe for that? > > Lauren > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 23, 2007 I just really need a recipe for a plain vegan angel food cake. Maybe someone here will have one. Or maybe can convert a reg recipe for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 23, 2007 This cake is basically egg whites. It can't be altered and be an true Angel Food Cake. Joanie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 23, 2007 egg whites are such an integral part of angel food cake, i doubt it could be veganized successfully. i don't think you could get the results you needed from any kind of egg replacer. susie --- bggllw <bggllw wrote: > Angel food cake: Does anyone have a vegan recipe for > that? > > Lauren > > ______________________________\ ____ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents./mailbeta/features_spam.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 23, 2007 no it has tons of egg whites in it. I can't imagine it being able to be made with any of the substitution, since you have to beat it till frothy and making peaks, if I remember correctly. It's been a long time since I've made it, but I do know that recipes I've seen call for about 8 egg whites. Judy - grow514 Monday, January 22, 2007 9:46 PM Re: question I thought Angel Food Cake was vegan.... Joanie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2007 I would still like to try and see. So if anyone has a plain angel food cake recipe I will use replacements and see what I can come up with. Lauren Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 28, 2007 I doubt this will veganize but this is the one I use all the time. You can take out the lemon without changing the chemistry. Doesn't Vegan With A Vengeance have some good baking recipes & techniques? Good luck, Diane Lemon Angel Food Cake Copyright, 2002, Ina Garten Barefoot Contessa Family Style, All rights reserved 2 cups sifted superfine sugar, divided 1 1/3 cups sifted cake flour (not self-rising) 1 1/2 cups egg whites, at room temperature (10 to 12 eggs) 3/4 teaspoon kosher salt 1 1/2 teaspoons cream of tartar 3/4 teaspoon pure vanilla extract 1 1/2 teaspoons grated lemon zest (2 lemons) Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F. Combine 1/2 cup of sugar with the flour and sift together 4 times. Set aside. Place the egg whites, salt, and cream of tartar in the bowl of an electric mixer fitted with a whisk attachment and beat on high speed until the eggs make medium-firm peaks, about 1 minute. With the mixer on medium speed, add the remaining 1 1/2 cups of sugar by sprinkling it over the beaten egg whites. Whisk for a few minutes until thick and shiny. Whisk in the vanilla and lemon zest and continue to whisk until very thick, about 1 more minute. Sift about 1/4 of the flour mixture over the egg whites and fold it into the batter with a rubber spatula. Continue adding the flour by fourths by sifting and folding until it's all incorporated. Pour the batter into an ungreased 10-inch tube pan, smooth the top, and bake it for 35 to 40 minutes, until it springs back to the touch. Remove the cake from the oven and invert the pan on a cooling rack until cool. Yield: 8 servings Prep Time: 20 minutes Cook Time: 40 minutes Difficulty: Medium , " bggllw " <bggllw wrote: > > I would still like to try and see. So if anyone has a plain angel food > cake recipe I will use replacements and see what I can come up with. > > Lauren > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
