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I'm sorry you are right. It's just hard and frustrating! And I'm doing my best

and feeling much healthier over all and isn't that whats important anyway? I

think my acid reflux is improving also... its really weird. I often forget my

medicine but lately I haven't even noticed it. Even if I don't lose the weight

I think the choice to switch to veggies only (I do eat dairy) was/is going to be

the best decision of my life (at least so far) =)

 

K

 

" artichoke72x " <artichoke72x wrote:

hi kelly,

it makes me sad that you would say that about

yourself.

please be kind to yourself. and remember, you didn't

put the weight on overnight, so you won't be able to

take it off overnight. be patient and stick with your

diet and exercise. you can do it!!

susie

 

--- Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1 wrote:

 

> Well I'm desparately trying to lose weight. I know

I'm a cow, whatever I'm trying.

 

 

 

 

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>>I have never had a good metabolism.<<

 

" The chemical messengers controlling weight and appetite are produced

in...the hypothalamus...[which] regulates the body temperature, blood

pressure, and heartbeat, as well as the metabolism of the fats and

carbohydrates. " [ " Look and feel fabulous forever, " p. 106.]

 

Without continuing to quote this source, the author, Oz Garcia, a former

veggie, also suggests that eating more of the foods that control your

insulin, glucagon, and cortisol you will affect the necessary hormones to

partially resolve the metabolism problem.

 

The best resolution would also include regular physical activity, adequate

sleep, stress reduction, and (heaven forbid in a veggie group) a select few

supplements beyond the usual types of vitamins.

 

Dave

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I am heading to his website right now. thank you!

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Monday, December 29, 2003 4:25 PM

[Raw Food] Weight gain

 

 

Hi,

Have you looked at Dr. Doug Graham's site? He works with lots of

athletes and recmds tons of fruit to get your carbs. More fat in the

form of nuts and seeds would be helpful. Stephen Arlin is a weight

lifter and has much info on raw food diet. You just may not be

eating enough carbs and fat.

Nina

 

 

 

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Could it be that you ingested far more salty food than you are used to and

retained water? jim

 

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Ok can some one out there tell me how it is possiable to gain 10lbs

in 2 days eating cooked foods? I have been Raw for nearley 2 mo now

and this passed two weeks have been really hard for me. Why I don't

quite know, any way I gave in to the cooked food devil and ate two

cooked meals over 2 days, and I gained 10lbs...could it be water

weight or what? Any input would be great...

 

Thanks Tanya

 

 

 

 

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That's definitely a possibility. However, it's also possible that

the weight gain is due to a lack of water, the water that is

naturally in foods. When food is cooked, the heat not only breaks

down the structure of the foods, but it evaporates the water out

that is naturally found in raw food. Raw food, in its natural state,

has water, some more than others of course. If we eat raw, we get

full, yet a lot of what we've eaten is water, which goes through us.

When food is cooked, it becomes very concentrated, since it lacks

liquid, and so when we eat cooked food we eat a lot more, and it

stays on us as weight. I was just reading a couple of days ago about

how cooked food has too much of the things we don't want--too much

protein, which is harmful; too much fat, which is also not desirable-

-it's all concentrated in cooked food. Also, we tend to eat so much

more of cooked, processed food, since the nutrients are not there,

and our bodies keep eating to try to get nourished.

 

Another thought is that as we continue on the raw path, our

assimilation improves, and whatever we eat stays on us much more

than it used to. Often when people go raw vegan, and they are not

eating a ton of fattening things, they become ultra skinny, because

they are not absorbing much of what they eat. As they continue

eating raw vegan, especially a diet rich in fresh raw fruits, leafy

greens, with a bit of nuts/edible seeds, and the body cleanses and

heals, the body begins to assimilate very efficiently, so we don't

need as much food, and we begin to gain weight easily--our weight

becomes a direct manifestation of what and how much we eat.

 

These are some ideas I had. One thing I think people notice is that

going raw changes our relationship to cooked food forever.

 

Zsuzsa

 

 

rawfood , jimtwist@c... wrote:

> Could it be that you ingested far more salty food than you are

used to and retained water? jim

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> Ok can some one out there tell me how it is possiable to gain

10lbs

> in 2 days eating cooked foods? I have been Raw for nearley 2 mo

now

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Tanya~

I had the same experience after being raw for a long time, then suddenly eating

more cooked (vegan/healthy) foods--I gained weight! ouch!

 

blessings,

Leslie

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you did not actually gain 10 pounds (of fat), that is physically

impossible. It is just water retention and undigested food, it will

eventually go away. I've heard of it happening to other raw fooders

who eat cooked foods. You might want to purchase some enzymes (with

lipase, amalayse & protease) for next time you eat cooked foods - it

will help you digest better. And stay away from the scale after the

weekends! :)

 

~Alissa

 

 

 

 

 

 

rawfood , " tanyadc2000 " <tanyadc2000>

wrote:

> Hello to all,

>

> I have a ? I have been 100% raw now for 2 mo now and this weekend I

> ate cooked foods, I didn't feel any diffrent or get sick but I

gained

> 10 lbs...is this normal? Thanks Tanya

> I am back on raw...

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Thankyou for your responce, I have now lost 6 of the ten, and I am back on raw.I

do not plan to ever go back on cooked foods again, I wasn't sick when I sent out

the e-mail but it cought up with me and I have been so ill. it is just not worth

the pain....Tanya

 

Alissa <health wrote:you did not actually gain 10 pounds (of

fat), that is physically

impossible. It is just water retention and undigested food, it will

eventually go away. I've heard of it happening to other raw fooders

who eat cooked foods. You might want to purchase some enzymes (with

lipase, amalayse & protease) for next time you eat cooked foods - it

will help you digest better. And stay away from the scale after the

weekends! :)

 

~Alissa

 

 

 

 

 

 

rawfood , " tanyadc2000 " <tanyadc2000>

wrote:

> Hello to all,

>

> I have a ? I have been 100% raw now for 2 mo now and this weekend I

> ate cooked foods, I didn't feel any diffrent or get sick but I

gained

> 10 lbs...is this normal? Thanks Tanya

> I am back on raw...

 

 

 

 

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The only thing you can do is increase the calories you eat - maybe in the

form of complex carbohydrates.

 

Jo

 

 

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I can only eat so much before I am just too full to continue. I need

to increase calories not in the form of more food but in the form of

making the food I do eat more calorie-full. Like eating a salad with

a high calorie dressing instead of a plain salad.

sara

 

, " Jo bb " <Heartwork@b...> wrote:

> The only thing you can do is increase the calories you eat - maybe

in the

> form of complex carbohydrates.

>

> Jo

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Put gravy on your mashed potatoes (I have a great yeast gravy recipe--let me know if you want it), eat yeast breads and pastas, cookies and pies and puddings. All of these are fairly high-calorie even when they're vegan. Sara <gagrip5 wrote:

I can only eat so much before I am just too full to continue. I need to increase calories not in the form of more food but in the form of making the food I do eat more calorie-full. Like eating a salad with a high calorie dressing instead of a plain salad.sara , "Jo bb" <Heartwork@b...> wrote:> The only thing you can do is increase the calories you eat - maybe in the> form of complex carbohydrates.> > JoTo send an email to -

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well

muscle weighs more then fat....soo..build muscle

 

but..other then that

nuts

pasta Sara Oct 20, 2004 9:17 AM weight gain OK, so I have the opposite of the "normal" question.I am looking to gain some weight. Starting some weights to get better muscle tone/more in shape upper body. Normal cardio as always (hiking and field work). Anyway, I can't seem to eat enough calories to keep myself from losing weight and I really can't afford any weight loss. Does anyone have some tricks to increasing the calories in a vegan diet? And, no, I refuse to fry anything...saraTo send an email to -

 

 

 

 

 

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drink beer

hee hee hee Susan Spain Oct 20, 2004 3:29 PM Re: Re: weight gain

Put gravy on your mashed potatoes (I have a great yeast gravy recipe--let me know if you want it), eat yeast breads and pastas, cookies and pies and puddings. All of these are fairly high-calorie even when they're vegan. Sara <gagrip5 wrote: I can only eat so much before I am just too full to continue. I need to increase calories not in the form of more food but in the form of making the food I do eat more calorie-full. Like eating a salad with a high calorie dressing instead of a plain salad.sara , "Jo bb" <Heartwork@b...> wrote:> The only thing you can do is increase the calories you eat - maybe in the> form of complex carbohydrates.> > JoTo send an email to -

 

 

 

 

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, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

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Nuts and avacados have naturally occuring good fats in them, and nuts

have lots of protein. They are high calorie and still good for you.

Nuts need no preperation and avacados can be a colorful addition to

sandwiches or made into dip.

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I have been trying this for the past 1

years but I am still skinny!

 

 

 

 

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21 October 2004 03:21

 

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weight gain

 

 

 

 

 

drink beer

 

 

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yeah..well...wait

hahahahahahahah Andrew Barnes Oct 21, 2004 12:30 AM RE: Re: weight gain

 

 

 

 

I have been trying this for the past 1 years but I am still skinny!

 

 

 

 

fraggle [EBbrewpunx] 21 October 2004 03:21 Subject: Re: Re: weight gain

 

 

drink beer

 

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Yeah, that's kinda the plan. I am so sick of being this whimpy little

scrawny chick... :P

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> well

muscle weighs more then fat....soo..build muscle

 

but..other then that

nuts

pasta

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Although that has not been successful so far, I'm not giving up!

Few things better than a good beer...

sara

 

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> drink beer

hee hee hee

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Yum! I am always looking for excuses to eat more of my favorite fruit!

Hadn't really thought about nuts. I mostly consider them as a gorp-

type thing for hiking.

sara

 

, " Bea " <queenbea3586> wrote:

> >

> Nuts and avacados have naturally occuring good fats in them, and

nuts

> have lots of protein. They are high calorie and still good for you.

> Nuts need no preperation and avacados can be a colorful addition to

> sandwiches or made into dip.

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You gotta keep trying. Don't give up! :P

 

, " Andrew Barnes "

<andrew.barnes@f...> wrote:

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> I have been trying this for the past 1 years but I am still skinny!

>

> fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...]

>

> drink beer

>

> hee hee hee

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I gained about 14lbs in a few months by eating lots of bowls of muesli( with nuts/dried fruit etc) and soya milk. I also ate lots of

mashed potatoe with sweetcorn with vegan mayonaise and flax oil. I couldn't believe how much weight I gained, muesli is very calorific.

 

 

Jo

 

 

 

 

 

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Thursday, October 21, 2004 6:48 PM

Re: weight gain

Yum! I am always looking for excuses to eat more of my favorite fruit!Hadn't really thought about nuts. I mostly consider them as a gorp-type thing for hiking.sara , "Bea" <queenbea3586> wrote:> > > Nuts and avacados have naturally occuring good fats in them, and nuts> have lots of protein. They are high calorie and still good for you.> Nuts need no preperation and avacados can be a colorful addition to> sandwiches or made into dip.To send an email to -

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well

everyone's metabolism is different..

i weighed 119lbs fer a loooooong time

then suddenly shot up to 130..stayed there fer a few years..

now...ummm..after several years of bagels fer breakfast, many pints under the belt and a year in which i shattered my knee and got an office job..lets just say i no longer weight 130..

*sigh*

it happens when ya get a tad bit older

dang metabolismnx@e...> wrote:> drink beerhee hee heeTo send an email to -

 

 

 

 

 

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Right, so I wanna start up some good habits as related to exercise

before this process begins. Replace that fat with some muscle. When

does this start, anyway? I mean, everyone keeps saying " it's coming "

in this really ominous way, but I see no signs. I seriously out-eat

everyone I know, yet was 1 of 2 people at my highschool reunion that

hadn't gained any weight. it's a mystery.

Now the idle curiousity kicks in -- how tall are you? I mean 119 lbs

doesn't seem like much...

sara

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> well

everyone's metabolism is different..

i weighed 119lbs fer a loooooong time

then suddenly shot up to 130..stayed there fer a few years..

now...ummm..after several years of bagels fer breakfast, many pints

under the belt and a year in which i shattered my knee and got an

office job..lets just say i no longer weight 130..

*sigh*

it happens when ya get a tad bit older

dang metabolism

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What the hell is a Gorp type thing?

The Valley Vegan....Sara <gagrip5 wrote:

Yum! I am always looking for excuses to eat more of my favorite fruit!Hadn't really thought about nuts. I mostly consider them as a gorp-type thing for hiking.sara , "Bea" wrote:> > > Nuts and avacados have naturally occuring good fats in them, and nuts> have lots of protein. They are high calorie and still good for you.> Nuts need no preperation and avacados can be a colorful addition to> sandwiches or made into dip.

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