Guest guest Report post Posted March 1, 2002 On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Tracy McVeigh wrote: > Just wondering if anyone has had a problem with weight gain since them became vegetarian. > > I have been a vegetarian for almost ten years now. Ever since, I have been putting weight on. My blood pressure and cholesterol have come down to normal, but my weight continues to climb. Perhaps you are eating more cheese and dairy? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 1, 2002 Not sure if this helps, since I'm vegan, but I've found my weight has dropped and my metabolism has sped up. This is probably helped by the fact that I try for a raw food based diet. I find it's still possible to eat very badly while staying vegan, but that if i provide my body with the right fuel (raw fruit and veg) i stay a lot closer to optimal health. Processed food is bad, mmmkay? *lol* Love, Naomi > > Just wondering if anyone has had a problem with weight gain since them > became vegetarian. > > I have been a vegetarian for almost ten years now. Ever since, I have > been putting weight on. My blood pressure and cholesterol have come > down to normal, but my weight continues to climb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 2, 2002 I did at first when I didn't know what I was doing. When you just cut meat out of your diet at age 14, you tend to eat more carbohydrates to fill you up...when instead you should be eating much more raw fruits and veggies and things with protein like beans, nuts, and peanut butter (my favorite) Now I maintain my weight since I'm vegetarian on my way to veganism. I'm slowly cutting out dairy instead of stopping suddenly. Your body and eating habits have to adjust. That was just off the top of my head, from my own experience. Hope it helped.~*Ashley*~ Smile, it makes people wonder what you're up to...hehehe >"Tracy McVeigh" > > > weight gain >Fri, 1 Mar 2002 12:32:29 -0500 > >Just wondering if anyone has had a problem with weight gain since them became vegetarian. > >I have been a vegetarian for almost ten years now. Ever since, I have been putting weight on. My blood pressure and cholesterol have come down to normal, but my weight continues to climb. Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 3, 2002 I have gone thru periods of weight gain, off and on, but usually it's because I have been overeating (e.g. holidays, etc) and not getting enough exercise (wintertime blahs). I am just the kind of person who needs to watch their diet no matter what. Perhaps you are too. I try to watch my food preparation techniques (e.g. nothing fried or deep-fried) avoid high-fat foods (watch out for things with lots of nuts, tahini) use oils sparingly, cut out sweets, limit the pastas and breads...just all the things one would usually do if they were watching their weight. cheryll , " Tracy McVeigh " <tracy_mcveigh@h...> wrote: > Just wondering if anyone has had a problem with weight gain since them became vegetarian. > > I have been a vegetarian for almost ten years now. Ever since, I have been putting weight on. My blood pressure and cholesterol have come down to normal, but my weight continues to climb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 < k lower back and hip pain limits me to that). Any thoughts or suggestions? I don't like taking pills/supplements but if its necessary I would. > My thought would be that it's the while you're losing fat through diet, you're gaining muscle through exercise kind of thing. An inch of fat would weigh less than an inch of muscle gained. Lois SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 muscle weighs more than fat........you are exercising more, therefore gaining muscle [and probably loosing fat as well]. what is your BMI to begin with? if your BMI is normal to below normal, it would be expected that one would gain weight with additional exercise. In case you are not sure of your BMI here is a site I found just now that will calculate it for you, and tells a bit about it, as well. http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/bmi.htm Pixx< who used to be an aerobics & fitness instructor~can ya tell?? lol. sheesh...many many moons [and pounds] ago! Kelly Pavlik wrote: I'm not sure I mentioned this to this group or not but since i've become a vegetarian I've gained weight. Anyone have any idea why? My cal intake is less I have been exercising more (about 30 minu 3x per week lower back and hip pain limits me to that). Any thoughts or suggestions? I don't like taking pills/supplements but if its necessary I would. Looking forward to responses, Kelly == http://pixxart.com the Art of Living in Health, Peace, & Light Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Great minds think alike ... i just posted the same thought. Other gauges would be the tape measure and how clothing fits (if they're loose despite gaining, you're gaining muscle for that fat). Oh, a diet group I used to be in also touted that fat contained the type of female hormones that make for premenstrual discomfort and that for some women losing excess fat eased those symptoms. Lois SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Well I'd rather not say but this should give a good idea... my BMI is 30+ and its not like i'm exercising a whole lot. 10 minutes yoga, 10 minutes pilates and the sometimes a 20 minute walk or swim. K Pixx <lists wrote: muscle weighs more than fat........you are exercising more, therefore gaining muscle [and probably loosing fat as well]. what is your BMI to begin with? if your BMI is normal to below normal, it would be expected that one would gain weight with additional exercise. In case you are not sure of your BMI here is a site I found just now that will calculate it for you, and tells a bit about it, as well. http://www.halls.md/body-mass-index/bmi.htm Pixx< who used to be an aerobics & fitness instructor~can ya tell?? lol. sheesh...many many moons [and pounds] ago! Kelly Pavlik wrote: I'm not sure I mentioned this to this group or not but since i've become a vegetarian I've gained weight. Anyone have any idea why? My cal intake is less I have been exercising more (about 30 minu 3x per week lower back and hip pain limits me to that). Any thoughts or suggestions? I don't like taking pills/supplements but if its necessary I would. Looking forward to responses, Kelly == http://pixxart.com the Art of Living in Health, Peace, & Light Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Well I'm desparately trying to lose weight. Hence one of the reason for becoming vegetarian. I'm 243 @ 5'7''. I know I'm a cow, whatever I'm trying. I've been taking in between 1200 to 1300 calories for about a month and a half (maybe a little longer) and then this past week or so I stopped eating meat completely and the exercises I've already mentioned. Its just frustrating because before the past week or so with the exercise and stopping of meat I had been losing (15lbs total) and then after the change in meat and exercise (which to me doesn't sound like a whole lot of exercise or even that extreme muscle building granted it is yoga and pilates) I gained back almost 5lbs now. I guess my pants fit about the same as the 15lb loss, I mean they didn't get tighter but I'm looking for looser not the same! Thanks for all the imput everyone, I'm just stumped I guess... or i'll just have to pretend i'm gaining so much muscle! =P K Lois <lrstrappello wrote: Great minds think alike ... i just posted the same thought. Other gauges would be the tape measure and how clothing fits (if they're loose despite gaining, you're gaining muscle for that fat). Oh, a diet group I used to be in also touted that fat contained the type of female hormones that make for premenstrual discomfort and that for some women losing excess fat eased those symptoms. Lois SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 me? i would watch how much starch i was eating...aka pasta,rice ect i read somewhere something like 1/2c is 200 calories... could be wrong...still i freaked and have cut down pasta/rice portions... now in pasta salads i use half the pasta and up the veggies..in lasagna i roll up one noodle instead of doing it pan style..little shorts cuts and tricks help.. purhaps if you are willing posting what you have had in a day this week would give us a idea? also everyone is diffrent..we all have diffrent triggers..some are starch others are fat ect..listen to your body it is always talking to ya! HTH Warm Regards Niccii- , Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1> wrote: > I'm not sure I mentioned this to this group or not but since i've become a vegetarian I've gained weight. Anyone have any idea why? My cal intake is less I have been exercising more (about 30 minu 3x per week lower back and hip pain limits me to that). Any thoughts or suggestions? I don't like taking pills/supplements but if its necessary I would. > > Looking forward to responses, > Kelly > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 I used to eat a lot of breads... not a huge pasta lover. But since I began dieting I cut down on breads and pastas. When I eat bread now its whole wheat, same with pasta when I can. I will try to remember to write down what I eat tomorrow and post it and let everyone analyze it. How embarassing!! Maybe there is something I'm missing though and someone will catch it. Thanks again for the help everyone I seriously appreciate it! The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 why embarressing? hee hee i use dto be the same! lol i just know what i eat because i watch..when i didnt i couldnt tell ya a thing and when i did watch i was shocked in how much i ended up eating! no worries maybe someone will have more ideas... warm regards niccii , Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1> wrote: > I used to eat a lot of breads... not a huge pasta lover. But since I began dieting I cut down on breads and pastas. When I eat bread now its whole wheat, same with pasta when I can. > > I will try to remember to write down what I eat tomorrow and post it and let everyone analyze it. How embarassing!! Maybe there is something I'm missing though and someone will catch it. > > Thanks again for the help everyone I seriously appreciate it! > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Honestly I don't know what it would be embarassing. I get between 1200 and 1300 cals per day which is what most books research whatever says is ideal for me. I just feel weird about telling everyone what I eat, what if it is a lot! hehe!! I will try to do it though, I had to do it for my doctor and she told me I was on the right track, I just have to remember. K nicole Panos <N1kolleta wrote: why embarressing? hee hee i use dto be the same! lol i just know what i eat because i watch..when i didnt i couldnt tell ya a thing and when i did watch i was shocked in how much i ended up eating! no worries maybe someone will have more ideas... warm regards niccii , Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1> wrote: > I used to eat a lot of breads... not a huge pasta lover. But since I began dieting I cut down on breads and pastas. When I eat bread now its whole wheat, same with pasta when I can. > > I will try to remember to write down what I eat tomorrow and post it and let everyone analyze it. How embarassing!! Maybe there is something I'm missing though and someone will catch it. > > Thanks again for the help everyone I seriously appreciate it! > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 > since I've become a vegetarian I've gained weight. Anyone have any idea why? Do you eat a lot of bread? That could be the reason why you would gain weight. ~Janice~ Be your own cheerleader! Encourage yourself every step of the way! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 if it makes you feel better just send to my addy...but i have no degree or schooling in...thought purhaps others might beable to see something that reminds them of their own situations..you can do this and will do this..just takes a bit of tweeking and working out...try not eating late at night bigger meals midday..ect use all the same ideas but reapply to this diet.. HTH warm Regards Niccii , Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1> wrote: > Honestly I don't know what it would be embarassing. I get between 1200 and 1300 cals per day which is what most books research whatever says is ideal for me. > > I just feel weird about telling everyone what I eat, what if it is a lot! hehe!! I will try to do it though, I had to do it for my doctor and she told me I was on the right track, I just have to remember. > > K > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 17, 2003 I will post everything I eat tomorrow to the group. I won't lie or eat differently, that way I'll get honest feedback. It will be a little hard to post it to the group but I'll do it! I'd really like the feedback and if I chicken out I'll just send it to you at the end of the day K nicole Panos <N1kolleta wrote: if it makes you feel better just send to my addy...but i have no degree or schooling in...thought purhaps others might beable to see something that reminds them of their own situations..you can do this and will do this..just takes a bit of tweeking and working out...try not eating late at night bigger meals midday..ect use all the same ideas but reapply to this diet.. HTH warm Regards Niccii , Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1> wrote: > Honestly I don't know what it would be embarassing. I get between 1200 and 1300 cals per day which is what most books research whatever says is ideal for me. > > I just feel weird about telling everyone what I eat, what if it is a lot! hehe!! I will try to do it though, I had to do it for my doctor and she told me I was on the right track, I just have to remember. > > K > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 18, 2003 In a message dated 6/17/03 2:25:46 PM, writes: > Message: 17 > Tue, 17 Jun 2003 13:39:03 -0700 (PDT) > Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1 > Re: Weight gain > > Well I'm desparately trying to lose weight. Hence one of the reason for > becoming vegetarian. I'm 243 @ 5'7''. I know I'm a cow, whatever I'm trying. > I've been taking in between 1200 to 1300 calories for about a month and a > half (maybe a little longer) and then this past week or so I stopped eating meat > completely and the exercises I've already mentioned. > > hey kelly-- i would guess that your problem may be that you are not eating enough. 1200 calories is MUCH too low, especially for a woman who is 5'7 " and 243 lbs. your metabolism has most likely dropped because your body is using muscle as fuel. when your metabolism drops, your body will not be able to burn as many calories off, and you will slowly see plateaus or even weight gain. my calculations show that a woman of your weight who does NO exercise should be at about 2500 calories. you may want to try a 2000 calorie a day diet and see how that works for you. HOWEVER-- you should go into this gradually. if your body is now used to eating 1200 calories, your metabolism will not come up as quickly as it went down, and it will take time to get used to the new number. GRADUALLY raise the number of calories per day that you are eating. if you have hip/low back pain, there are certain exercises that you should be doing to help them; you definitely need to strengthen through your lower back and abdominals. pilates and yoga are good; i'm glad you're doing those. you may want to try to add more cardio into your routine. the good news is that you don't have to do it all in one lump sum-- if you can do 10 minutes in the morning, 10 in the afternoon, and 10 in the evening, your body will respond to that more or less the same way as it would to 30 minutes of straight exercise. every little bit helps. weight training is a huge metabolism booster as well, and i guarantee that if you add some of that into your exercise routine (2-3 times per week), you'll see better results. hope this helps. melody http://www.melodysmusic.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 18, 2003 > in > lasagna i roll up one noodle instead of doing it pan style.. Help. More on this lasagna trick, please? TIA, Pat -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " - Immanuel Kant * " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Well I think you're marvellous - and there's nothing embarrassing about saying what you eat! I've been following this discussion but not contributing because I'm trying to lose some weight myself and have hit a plateau (that's what the fancy dieters call not being able to take any more off - diet failure, in other words *LOL*) which is always disheartening. And yes, sometimes when I decide to cut back I find I have gained rather than lost or even stayed the same - I *think* because of taking in a lot of extra fluids (which probably means I wasn't drinking enough before?). The scales can sometimes lie, so take heart ;=) I'm going to write down everything *I* eat today, but whether or not I'm brave enough to share it is another matter. I'm not officially 'dieting' this week, you see *LOL* which probably means it's a good week to check out what does go in the system. Best luck, Pat > > I will try to remember to write down what I eat tomorrow and post it and let > everyone analyze it. How embarassing!! Maybe there is something I'm missing > though and someone will catch it. > -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " - Immanuel Kant * " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln * " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Hi Kelly, First off - congratulate yourself for making such healthy changes to your life! Everyone hits " plateaus " in weight loss/gain and it's to be expected. Try revving your exercise up a notch (add handweights while walking or walk one block more, simple things) or try some different exercise. This alone should help jumpstart the weight loss again. Remember, weight gain is a slow process and, unfortunately, weight loss is too. But you're doing more than losing weight - you're getting healthier - which translates into a happier, longer life! -K (who used to be a motivational fitness instructor, if you couldn't tell, in a previous life) , Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1> wrote: > Well I'm desparately trying to lose weight. Hence one of the reason for becoming vegetarian. I'm 243 @ 5'7''. I know I'm a cow, whatever I'm trying. I've been taking in between 1200 to 1300 calories for about a month and a half (maybe a little longer) and then this past week or so I stopped eating meat completely and the exercises I've already mentioned. > > Its just frustrating because before the past week or so with the exercise and stopping of meat I had been losing (15lbs total) and then after the change in meat and exercise (which to me doesn't sound like a whole lot of exercise or even that extreme muscle building granted it is yoga and pilates) I gained back almost 5lbs now. > > I guess my pants fit about the same as the 15lb loss, I mean they didn't get tighter but I'm looking for looser not the same! > > Thanks for all the imput everyone, I'm just stumped I guess... or i'll just have to pretend i'm gaining so much muscle! =P > > K > > Lois <lrstrappello> wrote: > Great minds think alike ... i just posted the same thought. Other gauges would be the tape measure and how clothing fits (if they're loose despite gaining, you're gaining muscle for that fat). Oh, a diet group I used to be in also touted that fat contained the type of female hormones that make for premenstrual discomfort and that for some women losing excess fat eased those symptoms. > > Lois > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 18, 2003 yes i agree! i will start giving a daily menu as well i think some of us newbies can learn a little from seeing what others eat and purhaps some new ideas as well! warm regards niccii , Sant & Brown <santbrown@l...> wrote: > Well I think you're marvellous - and there's nothing embarrassing about > saying what you eat! I've been following this discussion but not > contributing because I'm trying to lose some weight myself and have hit > a plateau (that's what the fancy dieters call not being able to take any > more off - diet failure, in other words *LOL*) which is always > disheartening. And yes, sometimes when I decide to cut back I find I > have gained rather than lost or even stayed the same - I *think* because > of taking in a lot of extra fluids (which probably means I wasn't > drinking enough before?). The scales can sometimes lie, so take heart ;=) > > I'm going to write down everything *I* eat today, but whether or not I'm > brave enough to share it is another matter. I'm not officially 'dieting' > this week, you see *LOL* which probably means it's a good week to check > out what does go in the system. > > Best luck, > Pat > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 18, 2003 hi kelly, it makes me sad that you would say that about yourself. please be kind to yourself. and remember, you didn't put the weight on overnight, so you won't be able to take it off overnight. be patient and stick with your diet and exercise. you can do it!! susie --- Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1 wrote: > Well I'm desparately trying to lose weight. I know I'm a cow, whatever I'm trying. SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Melody, this is very good advice. I do some weight training probably only once or twice a week because the pilates really is helping build muscle... i can feel it when i wake up. I do get some cardio I take walks outside and treadmill but as I've mentioned can't go very long without my legs hurting. Any suggestions on some cardio that would be less strenous on my legs and hips? And don't say swimming! I do that in place of walking some days. =) As for 2000 calories (or 2500!) Thats too much!!! What I'm eating is about all I can eat. At a meal when I'm full I stop (I try to stop before the disgusting full feeling). According to my Dieter's Diary for a sedentary lifestyle it recommends taking desired weight 135 x 12 = 1620 which I could probably do.... I don't know though, I'm just going by this book. I have never had a good metabolism. As long as I can remember. Green tea is supposed to help that and I try to drink some when I can. I also take a vitamin (not every day because I forget) which is supposed to help my metabolism. I would feel really bad about myself raising my calories back up to even 1600. When I was eating meat I was getting about 1400-1500 cals per day and i was losing weight though. So would raising calories to 1400 with just veggies, I probably wouldn't gain weight at least... I don't know. Thanks so much for the input I will definately think about what you've said... but I have to admit I won't raise my cals to 2000 I don't even think I could. If I did I'd just be eating more fattening unhealthy things... Because my stomach has shrunk I can't eat as much as I used to so I'd have to eat more fattening things to get those extra cals. I won't go higher thank 1500... I don't know why it just sounds scary! Thanks again, K >my calculations show that a woman of your weight >who does NO exercise should >be at about 2500 calories. you may want to try a >2000 calorie a day diet and >see how that works for you. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 18, 2003 -i misse dthat comment! you are NOT..dont ever think that..everyones body is diffrent you will work it all out...i used to think being a size 3 was skinny (yuck)i starved myself for that for years..now i could care less..ive put my scale away...not concerned with..i thought my hubby prefered me ultra skinny seems i was wrong..and i sure love to eat and cook so i dont worry about.being healthy is whats its all about.i pray everyday for happiness and healthiness...its not teh size of the body that matters just the size of the heart... warm regards niccii -- In , " artichoke72x " <artichoke72x> wrote: > hi kelly, > it makes me sad that you would say that about > yourself. > please be kind to yourself. and remember, you didn't > put the weight on overnight, so you won't be able to > take it off overnight. be patient and stick with your > diet and exercise. you can do it!! > susie > > --- Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1> wrote: > > > Well I'm desparately trying to lose weight. I know > I'm a cow, whatever I'm trying. > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Hi Kelly, I have found that stationary cycling is a great low-impact exercise. It's even recommended for people w/ arthritis around their knees, as it helps loosen the joints w/o putting any real weight on them. Good luck! -K , Kelly Pavlik <wantstolearn1> wrote: Any suggestions on some cardio that would be less strenous on my legs and hips? And don't say swimming! I do that in place of walking some days. =) > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
