Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 No of course not. Just that there is a vegan alternative for everything so when people say “what do you eat” you can smugly reply “everything you do – just that the source of the food is not animal related” Andrew Barnes Account Manager FDM Group Lanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FL Tel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905 andrew.barnes www.fdmgroup.com rlmftw [rlmftw] 21 December 2004 18:25 Re: Eggs Are you vegan if you eat eggs? Ron , " Andrew Barnes " <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote: > Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods) > > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too. > > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too > difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits > > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52 > > Re: Eggs > > > > wot does ya mean? > > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with? > > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to > fruits, tofu, etc and so forth > > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS. > > > > (please correct me if I am wrong) > > > > Is anyone on this list creative? > > Any chance we can 'make' an egg? > > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams* > > (one day newspaper headline " Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat " ) > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 Vegan eggs? Andrew Barnes Catherine Turner [catherineturner2000] 21 December 2004 18:07 RE: Eggs Here we use boiled eggs for that. Soft boil them and dip strips of toast in. Catherine Andrew Barnes [andrew.barnes] 21 December 2004 17:13 RE: Eggs I think it is the one when you poach an egg and put it in an egg holder. Tap off the top of it, and then cut your toast into strips and dip them in the egg. Andrew Barnes Account Manager FDM Group Lanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FL Tel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905 andrew.barnes www.fdmgroup.com fraggle [EBbrewpunx] 21 December 2004 17:11 RE: Eggs well..i have no idea wot a soldier egg is but..poached eggs i have a recipe using corn starch and apricot halves... let me dig it up Andrew Barnes Dec 21, 2004 8:40 AM RE: Eggs What about egg soldiers? Dipping toast in poached eggs? Andrew Barnes Account Manager FDM Group Lanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FL Tel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905 andrew.barnes www.fdmgroup.com fraggle [EBbrewpunx] 21 December 2004 08:22 RE: Eggs sorry andrew me lad am a bit confused wot do you do with the egg after u *complete* it? if its not for cooking..then..how do you know/care wot it looks like inside yer artifiical type shell? if you want vegan eggs type dishes, then there are many ways of cooking them.not just egg replacements in baked goods... scrambled *eggs* are simple Andrew Barnes Dec 20, 2004 10:56 PM RE: Eggs Yeh – eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods) Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too. I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn’t be too difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits fraggle [EBbrewpunx] 21 December 2004 00:52 Re: Eggs wot does ya mean? are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with? there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to fruits, tofu, etc and so forth Andrew Barnes Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM Eggs The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS. (please correct me if I am wrong) Is anyone on this list creative? Any chance we can 'make' an egg? *Dreams* (one day newspaper headline " Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat " ) To send an email to - Groups Sponsor size=2 width=500 style='width:375.0pt' align=center> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 No. Vegans are herbivores - do not eat anything that is or comes from animals. Jo > Are you vegan if you eat eggs? > > Ron > > , " Andrew Barnes " > <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote: > > Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods) > > > > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too. > > > > > > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell > shouldn't be too > > difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the > inner bits > > > > _____ > > > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > > 21 December 2004 00:52 > > > > Re: Eggs > > > > > > > > wot does ya mean? > > > > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook > with? > > > > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged > stuff to > > fruits, tofu, etc and so forth > > > > > > > > Andrew Barnes > > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > > > Eggs > > > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for > is EGGS. > > > > > > > > (please correct me if I am wrong) > > > > > > > > Is anyone on this list creative? > > > > Any chance we can 'make' an egg? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams* > > > > (one day newspaper headline " Now There Is No Excuse For Eating > Meat " ) > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming from??rlmftw <rlmftw wrote: Are you vegan if you eat eggs?Ron , "Andrew Barnes" <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote:> Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods)> > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too.> > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too> difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits> > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52> > Re: Eggs> > > > wot does ya mean?> > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with?> > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to> fruits, tofu, etc and so forth> > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS.> > > > (please correct me if I am wrong)> > > > Is anyone on this list creative?> > Any chance we can 'make' an egg?> > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams*> > (one day newspaper headline "Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat" )> > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 No - they come from hens - they are not vegetable. Jo - victoria leggett Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:44 AM Re: Re: Eggs what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming from??rlmftw <rlmftw wrote: Are you vegan if you eat eggs?Ron , "Andrew Barnes" <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote:> Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods)> > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too.> > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too> difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits> > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52> > Re: Eggs> > > > wot does ya mean?> > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with?> > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to> fruits, tofu, etc and so forth> > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS.> > > > (please correct me if I am wrong)> > > > Is anyone on this list creative?> > Any chance we can 'make' an egg?> > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams*> > (one day newspaper headline "Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat" )> > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 Nah still not. a) the mother hen feels stress when she sees her batch of eggs has gone b) it’s theft c) what happens to all the males you have risk of campylobacter / salmonella poisoning Andrew Barnes Account Manager FDM Group Lanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FL Tel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905 andrew.barnes www.fdmgroup.com victoria leggett [tipples78] 22 December 2004 09:44 Re: Re: Eggs what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming from?? rlmftw <rlmftw wrote: Are you vegan if you eat eggs? Ron , " Andrew Barnes " <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote: > Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods) > > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too. > > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too > difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits > > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52 > > Re: Eggs > > > > wot does ya mean? > > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with? > > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to > fruits, tofu, etc and so forth > > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS. > > > > (please correct me if I am wrong) > > > > Is anyone on this list creative? > > Any chance we can 'make' an egg? > > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams* > > (one day newspaper headline " Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat " ) > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 been vegan about 2 months, find the egg thing the most difficult. my brother in law has 2 chickens, they lay everyday. no male involved. so they will never be fertilised. is that still bad?Andrew Barnes <andrew.barnes wrote: Nah still not. a) the mother hen feels stress when she sees her batch of eggs has gone b) it’s theft c) what happens to all the males you have risk of campylobacter / salmonella poisoning Andrew BarnesAccount Manager FDM GroupLanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FLTel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905andrew.barneswww.fdmgroup.com victoria leggett [tipples78] 22 December 2004 09:44 Subject: Re: Re: Eggs what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming from??rlmftw <rlmftw wrote: Are you vegan if you eat eggs?Ron , "Andrew Barnes" <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote:> Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods)> > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too.> > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too> difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits> > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52> > Re: Eggs> > > > wot does ya mean?> > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with?> > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to> fruits, tofu, etc and so forth> > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS.> > > > (please correct me if I am wrong)> > > > Is anyone on this list creative?> > Any chance we can 'make' an egg?> > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams*> > (one day newspaper headline "Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat" )> > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 Never been in your position … Erm If you get egg poisoning it is?!?!?!??!?! I read an article once saying chickens will lay to replace eggs that are ‘missing / stolen’. Don’t know much about it but maybe you are stressing out your hens by removing the eggs and though they are free-range they might not be as happy as if they could nest with their eggs. This is all I can remember in this ethical minefield – does anyone else know any more stuff on this topic? (how much stress can a hen feel?) (how much would it matter if you didn’t eat them?) Andrew Barnes Account Manager FDM Group Lanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FL Tel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905 andrew.barnes www.fdmgroup.com victoria leggett [tipples78] 22 December 2004 10:02 RE: Re: Eggs been vegan about 2 months, find the egg thing the most difficult. my brother in law has 2 chickens, they lay everyday. no male involved. so they will never be fertilised. is that still bad? Andrew Barnes <andrew.barnes wrote: Nah still not. a) the mother hen feels stress when she sees her batch of eggs has gone b) it’s theft c) what happens to all the males you have risk of campylobacter / salmonella poisoning Andrew Barnes Account Manager FDM Group Lanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FL Tel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905 andrew.barnes www.fdmgroup.com victoria leggett [tipples78] 22 December 2004 09:44 Re: Re: Eggs what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming from?? rlmftw <rlmftw wrote: Are you vegan if you eat eggs? Ron , " Andrew Barnes " <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote: > Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods) > > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too. > > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too > difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits > > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52 > > Re: Eggs > > > > wot does ya mean? > > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with? > > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to > fruits, tofu, etc and so forth > > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS. > > > > (please correct me if I am wrong) > > > > Is anyone on this list creative? > > Any chance we can 'make' an egg? > > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams* > > (one day newspaper headline " Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat " ) > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 When he bought the hens when they were young they would have come from a batch of chicks, and the male chicks in that batch would have been killed because they weren't needed for egg laying. Jo - victoria leggett Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:01 AM RE: Re: Eggs been vegan about 2 months, find the egg thing the most difficult. my brother in law has 2 chickens, they lay everyday. no male involved. so they will never be fertilised. is that still bad?Andrew Barnes <andrew.barnes wrote: Nah still not. a) the mother hen feels stress when she sees her batch of eggs has gone b) it’s theft c) what happens to all the males you have risk of campylobacter / salmonella poisoning Andrew BarnesAccount Manager FDM GroupLanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FLTel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905andrew.barneswww.fdmgroup.com victoria leggett [tipples78] 22 December 2004 09:44 Subject: Re: Re: Eggs what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming from??rlmftw <rlmftw wrote: Are you vegan if you eat eggs?Ron , "Andrew Barnes" <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote:> Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods)> > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too.> > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too> difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits> > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52> > Re: Eggs> > > > wot does ya mean?> > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with?> > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to> fruits, tofu, etc and so forth> > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS.> > > > (please correct me if I am wrong)> > > > Is anyone on this list creative?> > Any chance we can 'make' an egg?> > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams*> > (one day newspaper headline "Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat" )> > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 Hi Ron > Are you vegan if you eat eggs? No... the conversation is about trying to work out a way to create vegan egg-substitutes, complete with shell, yoke & white...! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 Hi Victoria > what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming > from?? Freerange eggs still come from animals, and the definition of a vegan is someone who doesn't consume any products from animals... so, regardless of ethical considerations, if you consume eggs, you're not vegan! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 taking this from another persepctive instead of wot we think, wot do you THINK victoria?? wot do you want to do, and why? from a purely vegan point of view..in the strictest sense, ya can't eat the eggs...you are still consuming a product that comes from another creature..the eggs are meant to grow up into another chicken(whether er not there is a rooster to fertilize the lil buggers..that is why the chicken lays them) we have modified chickens thru millions of generations to become lil egg laying machines... and, does the chicken feel stress when she can't find her eggs? depends...depends a ton on the breed..most *modern* chickens have had broodiness bred out of them...broodiness is the ability to sit on an egg....most modern hens couldn't raise a family... now..again..wot do you think doesn't mean spit wot we tell you er urge you in the end..it all falls down to you? yer brother already has the chickens..they are already gonna do wot they do..if they aren't bantams er a few other breeds, they are basically mutated egg laying factories..... wot do you want to do? why? really...why? and, those are questions i really mean u to ask yerself...not necessarily fer you to answer them online cheers fraggle victoria leggett Dec 22, 2004 2:01 AM RE: Re: Eggs been vegan about 2 months, find the egg thing the most difficult. my brother in law has 2 chickens, they lay everyday. no male involved. so they will never be fertilised. is that still bad?Andrew Barnes <andrew.barnes wrote: Nah still not. a) the mother hen feels stress when she sees her batch of eggs has gone b) its theft c) what happens to all the males you have risk of campylobacter / salmonella poisoning Andrew BarnesAccount Manager FDM GroupLanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FLTel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905andrew.barneswww.fdmgroup.com victoria leggett [tipples78] 22 December 2004 09:44 Subject: Re: Re: Eggs what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming from??rlmftw <rlmftw wrote: Are you vegan if you eat eggs?Ron , "Andrew Barnes" <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote:> Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods)> > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too.> > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too> difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits> > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52> > Re: Eggs> > > > wot does ya mean?> > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with?> > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to> fruits, tofu, etc and so forth> > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS.> > > > (please correct me if I am wrong)> > > > Is anyone on this list creative?> > Any chance we can 'make' an egg?> > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams*> > (one day newspaper headline "Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat" )> > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 i did have an egg the other day. but felt bad, so i think that is telling me not to!! if i manage to sort out the egg replacer thing i think i will be ok. thanks for the input, just need to sort it out in my own head i think ive almost done that!! fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: taking this from another persepctive instead of wot we think, wot do you THINK victoria?? wot do you want to do, and why? from a purely vegan point of view..in the strictest sense, ya can't eat the eggs...you are still consuming a product that comes from another creature..the eggs are meant to grow up into another chicken(whether er not there is a rooster to fertilize the lil buggers..that is why the chicken lays them) we have modified chickens thru millions of generations to become lil egg laying machines... and, does the chicken feel stress when she can't find her eggs? depends...depends a ton on the breed..most *modern* chickens have had broodiness bred out of them...broodiness is the ability to sit on an egg....most modern hens couldn't raise a family... now..again..wot do you think doesn't mean spit wot we tell you er urge you in the end..it all falls down to you? yer brother already has the chickens..they are already gonna do wot they do..if they aren't bantams er a few other breeds, they are basically mutated egg laying factories..... wot do you want to do? why? really...why? and, those are questions i really mean u to ask yerself...not necessarily fer you to answer them online cheers fraggle victoria leggett Dec 22, 2004 2:01 AM RE: Re: Eggs been vegan about 2 months, find the egg thing the most difficult. my brother in law has 2 chickens, they lay everyday. no male involved. so they will never be fertilised. is that still bad?Andrew Barnes <andrew.barnes wrote: Nah still not. a) the mother hen feels stress when she sees her batch of eggs has gone b) it’s theft c) what happens to all the males you have risk of campylobacter / salmonella poisoning Andrew BarnesAccount Manager FDM GroupLanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FLTel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905andrew.barneswww.fdmgroup.com victoria leggett [tipples78] 22 December 2004 09:44 Subject: Re: Re: Eggs what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming from??rlmftw <rlmftw wrote: Are you vegan if you eat eggs?Ron , "Andrew Barnes" <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote:> Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods)> > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too.> > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too> difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits> > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52> > Re: Eggs> > > > wot does ya mean?> > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with?> > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to> fruits, tofu, etc and so forth> > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS.> > > > (please correct me if I am wrong)> > > > Is anyone on this list creative?> > Any chance we can 'make' an egg?> > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams*> > (one day newspaper headline "Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat" )> > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 You know, I never considered myself a big egg fan, but I used to have the hugest love for eggs benedict. It was probably the hollandaise sauce that got me. I've tried vegan substitutes, but they're just not the same. Now I can't remember the last time I ate an egg. Love, Anna - victoria leggett 12/22/2004 12:52:00 PM RE: Re: Eggs i did have an egg the other day. but felt bad, so i think that is telling me not to!! if i manage to sort out the egg replacer thing i think i will be ok. thanks for the input, just need to sort it out in my own head i think ive almost done that!! fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: taking this from another persepctive instead of wot we think, wot do you THINK victoria?? wot do you want to do, and why? from a purely vegan point of view..in the strictest sense, ya can't eat the eggs...you are still consuming a product that comes from another creature..the eggs are meant to grow up into another chicken(whether er not there is a rooster to fertilize the lil buggers..that is why the chicken lays them) we have modified chickens thru millions of generations to become lil egg laying machines... and, does the chicken feel stress when she can't find her eggs? depends...depends a ton on the breed..most *modern* chickens have had broodiness bred out of them...broodiness is the ability to sit on an egg....most modern hens couldn't raise a family... now..again..wot do you think doesn't mean spit wot we tell you er urge you in the end..it all falls down to you? yer brother already has the chickens..they are already gonna do wot they do..if they aren't bantams er a few other breeds, they are basically mutated egg laying factories..... wot do you want to do? why? really...why? and, those are questions i really mean u to ask yerself...not necessarily fer you to answer them online cheers fraggle victoria leggett Dec 22, 2004 2:01 AM RE: Re: Eggs been vegan about 2 months, find the egg thing the most difficult. my brother in law has 2 chickens, they lay everyday. no male involved. so they will never be fertilised. is that still bad?Andrew Barnes <andrew.barnes wrote: Nah still not. a) the mother hen feels stress when she sees her batch of eggs has gone b) it’s theft c) what happens to all the males you have risk of campylobacter / salmonella poisoning Andrew BarnesAccount Manager FDM GroupLanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FLTel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905andrew.barneswww.fdmgroup.com victoria leggett [tipples78] 22 December 2004 09:44 Subject: Re: Re: Eggs what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming from??rlmftw <rlmftw wrote: Are you vegan if you eat eggs?Ron , "Andrew Barnes" <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote:> Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods)> > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too.> > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too> difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits> > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52> > Re: Eggs> > > > wot does ya mean?> > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with?> > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to> fruits, tofu, etc and so forth> > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS.> > > > (please correct me if I am wrong)> > > > Is anyone on this list creative?> > Any chance we can 'make' an egg?> > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams*> > (one day newspaper headline "Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat" )> > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 wot recipes/brands have you tried? maybe we can come up with a better tastin version fer ya Anna Blaine Dec 22, 2004 1:20 PM RE: Re: Eggs You know, I never considered myself a big egg fan, but I used to have the hugest love for eggs benedict. It was probably the hollandaise sauce that got me. I've tried vegan substitutes, but they're just not the same. Now I can't remember the last time I ate an egg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 22, 2004 All I remember is tofu and turmeric. I hate turmeric. I probably don't need to simulate the eggs - I bet I would be happy with just hollandaise sauce over English muffins. Hollandaise sauce is made of lemon, butter, and egg yolks. Maybe the right combination of lemon, vegan margarine, and Ener-G would work. Not that I need it - I'm trying to lose the 60 lbs my bipolar meds made me gain. I certainly shouldn't be eating hollandaise sauce. Love, Anna P.S. Now that I think about it, I only ever ate eggs benedict 3-4 times per year. - fraggle 12/22/2004 2:24:04 PM RE: Re: Eggs wot recipes/brands have you tried? maybe we can come up with a better tastin version fer ya Anna Blaine Dec 22, 2004 1:20 PM RE: Re: Eggs You know, I never considered myself a big egg fan, but I used to have the hugest love for eggs benedict. It was probably the hollandaise sauce that got me. I've tried vegan substitutes, but they're just not the same. Now I can't remember the last time I ate an egg. To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Anna, Have you tried the version from How it all Vegan? They call it Faux Eggs Benny and it is really quite good and not a drop of turmeric in sight if I recall. I've made it several times and everyone in the family likes it. Even managed to find vegan english muffins at whole foods (most brands I've found have whey in them). nancy , " Anna Blaine " <anna333@e...> wrote: > All I remember is tofu and turmeric. I hate turmeric. I probably don't need to simulate the eggs - I bet I would be happy with just hollandaise sauce over English muffins. Hollandaise sauce is made of lemon, butter, and egg yolks. Maybe the right combination of lemon, vegan margarine, and Ener-G would work. Not that I need it - I'm trying to lose the 60 lbs my bipolar meds made me gain. I certainly shouldn't be eating hollandaise sauce. > > Love, > Anna > > P.S. Now that I think about it, I only ever ate eggs benedict 3-4 times per year. > > > - > fraggle > > 12/22/2004 2:24:04 PM > RE: Re: Eggs > > > wot recipes/brands have you tried? > maybe we can come up with a better tastin version fer ya > > > > > Anna Blaine > Dec 22, 2004 1:20 PM > > RE: Re: Eggs > > > You know, I never considered myself a big egg fan, but I used to have the hugest love for eggs benedict. It was probably the hollandaise sauce that got me. I've tried vegan substitutes, but they're just not the same. Now I can't remember the last time I ate an egg. > > > > To send an email to - > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Thanks for the tip, Nancy. I've heard nothing but good things about How It All Vegan and have been meaning to buy it. I didn't know most English muffins have whey in them - I'll have to look out for that. No Whole Foods here in Boise - just the Co-op and it's been awhile since I've checked out the baked goods. Love, Anna > [Original Message] > njdoane <njdoane > > 12/22/2004 6:07:55 PM > Re: Eggs > > > > Anna, > > Have you tried the version from How it all Vegan? They call it Faux > Eggs Benny and it is really quite good and not a drop of turmeric in > sight if I recall. I've made it several times and everyone in the > family likes it. Even managed to find vegan english muffins at > whole foods (most brands I've found have whey in them). > > nancy > > , " Anna Blaine " <anna333@e...> > wrote: > > All I remember is tofu and turmeric. I hate turmeric. I probably > don't need to simulate the eggs - I bet I would be happy with just > hollandaise sauce over English muffins. Hollandaise sauce is made > of lemon, butter, and egg yolks. Maybe the right combination of > lemon, vegan margarine, and Ener-G would work. Not that I need it - > I'm trying to lose the 60 lbs my bipolar meds made me gain. I > certainly shouldn't be eating hollandaise sauce. > > > > Love, > > Anna > > > > P.S. Now that I think about it, I only ever ate eggs benedict 3-4 > times per year. > > > > > > - > > fraggle > > > > 12/22/2004 2:24:04 PM > > RE: Re: Eggs > > > > > > wot recipes/brands have you tried? > > maybe we can come up with a better tastin version fer ya > > > > > > > > > > Anna Blaine > > Dec 22, 2004 1:20 PM > > > > RE: Re: Eggs > > > > > > You know, I never considered myself a big egg fan, but I used to > have the hugest love for eggs benedict. It was probably the > hollandaise sauce that got me. I've tried vegan substitutes, but > they're just not the same. Now I can't remember the last time I ate > an egg. > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 , " Anna Blaine " <anna333@e...> wrote: > Thanks for the tip, Nancy. I've heard nothing but good things about How It > All Vegan and have been meaning to buy it. I didn't know most English > muffins have whey in them - I'll have to look out for that. No Whole Foods > here in Boise - just the Co-op and it's been awhile since I've checked out > the baked goods. > > Love, > Anna > > > > [Original Message] > > njdoane <njdoane> > > > > 12/22/2004 6:07:55 PM > > Re: Eggs > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > Have you tried the version from How it all Vegan? They call it Faux > > Eggs Benny and it is really quite good and not a drop of turmeric in > > sight if I recall. I've made it several times and everyone in the > > family likes it. Even managed to find vegan english muffins at > > whole foods (most brands I've found have whey in them). > > > > nancy > > > > , " Anna Blaine " <anna333@e...> > > wrote: > > > All I remember is tofu and turmeric. I hate turmeric. I probably > > don't need to simulate the eggs - I bet I would be happy with just > > hollandaise sauce over English muffins. Hollandaise sauce is made > > of lemon, butter, and egg yolks. Maybe the right combination of > > lemon, vegan margarine, and Ener-G would work. Not that I need it - > > I'm trying to lose the 60 lbs my bipolar meds made me gain. I > > certainly shouldn't be eating hollandaise sauce. > > > > > > Love, > > > Anna > > > > > > P.S. Now that I think about it, I only ever ate eggs benedict 3-4 > > times per year. > > > > > > > > > - > > > fraggle > > > > > > 12/22/2004 2:24:04 PM > > > RE: Re: Eggs > > > > > > > > > wot recipes/brands have you tried? > > > maybe we can come up with a better tastin version fer ya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Blaine > > > Dec 22, 2004 1:20 PM > > > > > > RE: Re: Eggs > > > > > > > > > You know, I never considered myself a big egg fan, but I used to > > have the hugest love for eggs benedict. It was probably the > > hollandaise sauce that got me. I've tried vegan substitutes, but > > they're just not the same. Now I can't remember the last time I ate > > an egg. > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Oops - I hit send when I was trying to enter a space. I found this online - it looks like it's the version I was talking about: Faux Eggs Benedict 1 lb medium tofu 1/4 C apple cider vinegar 1/4 C olive oil 1/4 tsp salt 4 English muffins OR 8 slices bread 8 slices veggie bacon (store bought i.e. Smart Bacon, or homemade) 8 slices tomato sauce: 1/2 C nutritional yeast flakes 2 Tbsp flour 1/2 tsp salt 1 C water 1Tbsp oil 1 Tbsp soy sauce or Bragg's 2 tsp Dijon mustard Preheat oven to 450'. Drain tofu and cut into eight slices. In a small bowl, combine oil, vinegar, and salt. Arrange tofu in a 6 x 9 baking dish and pour oil/vinegar over the top. Marinate for 15-30 minutes, turning tofu over occasionally so that each side is coated. Bake approx. 20 minutes until crispy brown. While tofu is baking, prepare sauce. In small saucepan, whisk together yeast, flour and salt. Add water, oil, and soy sauce and stir over medium heat until sauce starts to thicken. Stir in mustard and simmer on low heat until ready to serve. Toast muffins or bread. On each slice of bread, place 1 piece of veggie bacon, 1 piece of tofu, and one tomato slice. Then cover with Benny sauce. Makes 4 servings. , " Anna Blaine " <anna333@e...> wrote: > Thanks for the tip, Nancy. I've heard nothing but good things about How It > All Vegan and have been meaning to buy it. I didn't know most English > muffins have whey in them - I'll have to look out for that. No Whole Foods > here in Boise - just the Co-op and it's been awhile since I've checked out > the baked goods. > > Love, > Anna > > > > [Original Message] > > njdoane <njdoane> > > > > 12/22/2004 6:07:55 PM > > Re: Eggs > > > > > > > > Anna, > > > > Have you tried the version from How it all Vegan? They call it Faux > > Eggs Benny and it is really quite good and not a drop of turmeric in > > sight if I recall. I've made it several times and everyone in the > > family likes it. Even managed to find vegan english muffins at > > whole foods (most brands I've found have whey in them). > > > > nancy > > > > , " Anna Blaine " <anna333@e...> > > wrote: > > > All I remember is tofu and turmeric. I hate turmeric. I probably > > don't need to simulate the eggs - I bet I would be happy with just > > hollandaise sauce over English muffins. Hollandaise sauce is made > > of lemon, butter, and egg yolks. Maybe the right combination of > > lemon, vegan margarine, and Ener-G would work. Not that I need it - > > I'm trying to lose the 60 lbs my bipolar meds made me gain. I > > certainly shouldn't be eating hollandaise sauce. > > > > > > Love, > > > Anna > > > > > > P.S. Now that I think about it, I only ever ate eggs benedict 3-4 > > times per year. > > > > > > > > > - > > > fraggle > > > > > > 12/22/2004 2:24:04 PM > > > RE: Re: Eggs > > > > > > > > > wot recipes/brands have you tried? > > > maybe we can come up with a better tastin version fer ya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anna Blaine > > > Dec 22, 2004 1:20 PM > > > > > > RE: Re: Eggs > > > > > > > > > You know, I never considered myself a big egg fan, but I used to > > have the hugest love for eggs benedict. It was probably the > > hollandaise sauce that got me. I've tried vegan substitutes, but > > they're just not the same. Now I can't remember the last time I ate > > an egg. > > > > > > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Anna - The Tesco 'cheap' variety of muffin are vegan, and in Sainsbury you can get vegan muffins. Jo > Thanks for the tip, Nancy. I've heard nothing but good things about How It > All Vegan and have been meaning to buy it. I didn't know most English > muffins have whey in them - I'll have to look out for that. No Whole Foods > here in Boise - just the Co-op and it's been awhile since I've checked out > the baked goods. > > Love, > Anna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 fried egg on toast was my fav, also yorkshire pudding on a sunday. will try making them with out egg next time and see what happens!Anna Blaine <anna333 wrote: You know, I never considered myself a big egg fan, but I used to have the hugest love for eggs benedict. It was probably the hollandaise sauce that got me. I've tried vegan substitutes, but they're just not the same. Now I can't remember the last time I ate an egg. Love, Anna - victoria leggett 12/22/2004 12:52:00 PM RE: Re: Eggs i did have an egg the other day. but felt bad, so i think that is telling me not to!! if i manage to sort out the egg replacer thing i think i will be ok. thanks for the input, just need to sort it out in my own head i think ive almost done that!! fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: taking this from another persepctive instead of wot we think, wot do you THINK victoria?? wot do you want to do, and why? from a purely vegan point of view..in the strictest sense, ya can't eat the eggs...you are still consuming a product that comes from another creature..the eggs are meant to grow up into another chicken(whether er not there is a rooster to fertilize the lil buggers..that is why the chicken lays them) we have modified chickens thru millions of generations to become lil egg laying machines... and, does the chicken feel stress when she can't find her eggs? depends...depends a ton on the breed..most *modern* chickens have had broodiness bred out of them...broodiness is the ability to sit on an egg....most modern hens couldn't raise a family... now..again..wot do you think doesn't mean spit wot we tell you er urge you in the end..it all falls down to you? yer brother already has the chickens..they are already gonna do wot they do..if they aren't bantams er a few other breeds, they are basically mutated egg laying factories..... wot do you want to do? why? really...why? and, those are questions i really mean u to ask yerself...not necessarily fer you to answer them online cheers fraggle victoria leggett Dec 22, 2004 2:01 AM RE: Re: Eggs been vegan about 2 months, find the egg thing the most difficult. my brother in law has 2 chickens, they lay everyday. no male involved. so they will never be fertilised. is that still bad?Andrew Barnes <andrew.barnes wrote: Nah still not. a) the mother hen feels stress when she sees her batch of eggs has gone b) it’s theft c) what happens to all the males you have risk of campylobacter / salmonella poisoning Andrew BarnesAccount Manager FDM GroupLanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FLTel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905andrew.barneswww.fdmgroup.com victoria leggett [tipples78] 22 December 2004 09:44 Subject: Re: Re: Eggs what about freerange ones? if you know where they are coming from??rlmftw <rlmftw wrote: Are you vegan if you eat eggs?Ron , "Andrew Barnes" <andrew.barnes@f...> wrote:> Yeh - eggs in a shells (rather than egg replacers in foods)> > Ideally they could be boiled, scrambled or poached too.> > > > I have bought chocolate mini eggs so making a vegan shell shouldn't be too> difficult. I just wonder how to make a similar consistency to the inner bits> > _____ > > fraggle [EBbrewpunx@e...] > 21 December 2004 00:52> > Re: Eggs> > > > wot does ya mean?> > are we talking eggs in the *shell*, er just a substitute to cook with?> > there are a variety of cooking options fer eggs, from prepackaged stuff to> fruits, tofu, etc and so forth> > > > Andrew Barnes > Dec 20, 2004 4:04 PM > > Eggs > > The only thing I can think of that a substitute doesn't exist for is EGGS.> > > > (please correct me if I am wrong)> > > > Is anyone on this list creative?> > Any chance we can 'make' an egg?> > > > > > > > > > > > *Dreams*> > (one day newspaper headline "Now There Is No Excuse For Eating Meat" )> > > > To send an email to - > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Are Tesco and Sainsbury English shops? All we have here are Albertson's (Boise is home to Albertson's HQ, so there's a store like every 5 blocks), WinCo (cheap and good variety of veggie foods), and WalMart (which I try to avoid). And of course the Boise Co-op, which is our local health food store. Very pricey. Love, Anna > [Original Message] > Jo bb <Heartwork > > 12/23/2004 3:19:39 AM > Re: Re: Eggs > > > > Anna - The Tesco 'cheap' variety of muffin are vegan, and in Sainsbury you > can get vegan muffins. > > Jo > > Thanks for the tip, Nancy. I've heard nothing but good things about How > It > > All Vegan and have been meaning to buy it. I didn't know most English > > muffins have whey in them - I'll have to look out for that. No Whole > Foods > > here in Boise - just the Co-op and it's been awhile since I've checked out > > the baked goods. > > > > Love, > > Anna > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Yes tescos and sainsburys are two of four main supermarkets in the UK Andrew Barnes Account Manager FDM Group Lanchester House - Trafalgar Place - Brighton - BN1 4FL Tel: +44 (0)870 060 3100 - Fax: +44 (0)870 060 3101 - Mob: +44 (0)7970 075 905 andrew.barnes www.fdmgroup.com Anna Blaine [anna333] 23 December 2004 14:01 Re: Re: Eggs Are Tesco and Sainsbury English shops? All we have here are Albertson's (Boise is home to Albertson's HQ, so there's a store like every 5 blocks), WinCo (cheap and good variety of veggie foods), and WalMart (which I try to avoid). And of course the Boise Co-op, which is our local health food store. Very pricey. Love, Anna > [Original Message] > Jo bb <Heartwork > > 12/23/2004 3:19:39 AM > Re: Re: Eggs > > > > Anna - The Tesco 'cheap' variety of muffin are vegan, and in Sainsbury you > can get vegan muffins. > > Jo > > Thanks for the tip, Nancy. I've heard nothing but good things about How > It > > All Vegan and have been meaning to buy it. I didn't know most English > > muffins have whey in them - I'll have to look out for that. No Whole > Foods > > here in Boise - just the Co-op and it's been awhile since I've checked out > > the baked goods. > > > > Love, > > Anna > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 23, 2004 Hi Anna Yes they are English - sorry, when you mentioned English muffins I thought you meant here. I hope you find some vegan muffins there. Jo > Are Tesco and Sainsbury English shops? All we have here are Albertson's > (Boise is home to Albertson's HQ, so there's a store like every 5 blocks), > WinCo (cheap and good variety of veggie foods), and WalMart (which I try to > avoid). And of course the Boise Co-op, which is our local health food > store. Very pricey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
