Re:

[Guest guest]

You can say that again. Great book. In fact I just recommended it in

another group about 20 min. ago.

 

Alan

 

> I just watched " Diet for a New America " on video. . .Wow. . .for anyone on

> this list who hasn't read the book or seen the video I highly recommend

it.

[Guest guest]

Is Dr. McDougall mentioned in the book?

 

 

 

Change your thinking, change your life

 

-

Alan McClure <amcclure

 

Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:49 PM

Re:

 

 

> You can say that again. Great book. In fact I just recommended it in

> another group about 20 min. ago.

>

> Alan

>

> > I just watched " Diet for a New America " on video. . .Wow. . .for anyone

on

> > this list who hasn't read the book or seen the video I highly recommend

> it.

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, but only in passing really.

 

Alan

 

-

" Elizabeth W. " <elizabeth1204

 

Sunday, August 26, 2001 10:56 AM

Re:

 

 

> Is Dr. McDougall mentioned in the book?

>

>

>

> Change your thinking, change your life

>

> -

> Alan McClure <amcclure

>

> Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:49 PM

> Re:

>

>

> > You can say that again. Great book. In fact I just recommended it in

> > another group about 20 min. ago.

> >

> > Alan

> >

> > > I just watched " Diet for a New America " on video. . .Wow. . .for

anyone

> on

> > > this list who hasn't read the book or seen the video I highly

recommend

> > it.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list Brian. I don't belong to the League of Gentlemen or any

other sex club. Also, while I thank you for asking, I'm not interested in your

tofu weiners. I do like tarts though.

 

Ivan

 

--- " Brian Dillon " <dougal666 wrote:

>

>

>

>Hi Brian aka Beefa

>

>I am abit new to this listing

>thing.

>Just checking to see if there are any vegans out there who can share

> my love for tofu wieners, sainsburys organic jam tarts and The League

> of Gentlemen

>

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Well there are none on here so suggest you try another list !!! Angie

 

-

" Ivan Smetzel " <beefisgood

 

Thursday, November 29, 2001 6:43 PM

Re:

 

 

>

> Welcome to the list Brian. I don't belong to the League of Gentlemen or

any other sex club. Also, while I thank you for asking, I'm not interested

in your tofu weiners. I do like tarts though.

>

> Ivan

>

> --- " Brian Dillon " <dougal666 wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >Hi Brian aka Beefa

> >

> >I am abit new to this listing

> >thing.

> >Just checking to see if there are any vegans out there who can share

> > my love for tofu wieners, sainsburys organic jam tarts and The League

> > of Gentlemen

> >

>

>

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Dana~

 

I live in Richmond! I'm on the Southside, in Midlothian. I'm so excited to

see your post!!

 

Robin McAlexander

 

 

-

" Dana Craft " <dcraft

" Vegan Parents (E-mail) "

Monday, December 17, 2001 10:00 AM

 

 

 

> Does anybody live near Richmond, VA ?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Robin,

 

How many children do you have? Does your family belong to a play group?

 

Dana

 

 

McAlexander [2themacs]

Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:06 PM

 

Re:

 

 

Dana~

 

I live in Richmond! I'm on the Southside, in Midlothian. I'm so excited to

see your post!!

 

Robin McAlexander

 

 

-

" Dana Craft " <dcraft

" Vegan Parents (E-mail) "

Monday, December 17, 2001 10:00 AM

 

 

 

> Does anybody live near Richmond, VA ?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, that sounds like a great idea! I think the entire reason the AR movment

hasn't been as successful as it should be is because of these issues you brought

up.

 

Keep in mind that a lot of animal rights activists also believe in human rights,

and would never make an issue of race, gender, or social status. We're just a

lot of different people who come together to fight for a common cause.

 

But, then, there are larger, well-financed groups like PETA that do exhibit some

of these qualities. They frequently objectify women, trying to use sex-appeal

to convince the masses that they're doing the right thing, and are willing to

attack other cultures because their dietary traditions are considered

unacceptable by Westerners, and thus it is a more winnable campaign.

 

There are plenty of people who would probably be involved in AR activism, but

wouldn't want to associate themselves with these large groups that use

mainstream methods of campaigning, and aren't yet comfortable with the more

militant, direct action approach of many smaller groups. This is definitely an

issue that needs to be addressed -- I very much look forward to seeing your

article! Please let me know if I can be of any help. Also, which publication

is this?

 

- Carla Brauer

karrotqueen

on AIM: Herbivore 4 Life

 

" You must be the change you want to see in the world. " (Gandhi)

.... so, what are you waiting for?

 

caft.org | vegan.org | idausa.org | envirolink.org | animalliberation.net |

indymedia.org | earthfirst.org | purefood.org | kpfa.org | living-foods.com |

projectcensored.org | ran.org | gwbush.com | thehactivist.com | infoshop.org |

adbusters.org | primatefreedom.com | bankofamericaKills.com | furkills.org |

neimanskills.com

 

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Vegan Kitten

Saturday, January 12, 2002 6:37 PM

 

 

Hello everybody. I am writing an article for an anarchist publication out of

Southern California about veganism and how it pertains to race/class/gender

privilege. I am coming from the angle that it is very difficult for many people

to focus on problems outside of their own lives because of constraints that are

put on them. For example, people in the animal rights community wonder why we

do not have many people of color among our ranks. From the people I have talked

to and the observations that I have made, I have learned a great many things

about this issue. The primary one being that white males are encouraged to

express individuality, this is why we have so many white males getting into

vegetarianism. It is socially acceptable for them to express themselves about a

subject and in a manner that is outside of the norm. For people of color who

are already outside of the norm and who are punished for that through constant

slanderings ! in Amerikkkan film and other forms of media (not to mention

immense police repression), it is much more difficult to stand out from society.

This holds especially true when they are joining a movement that sees

objectification of womyn, racist/culturally biased remarks, and other forms of

oppression as being acceptable to bring about victories their cause.

 

I am writing about this partially because I have observed a lot of the

following coming from the animal rights community (primarily from more

mainstream activists and organizations, but also from more grassroots groups as

well): racist/culturally biased stereotyping (in judging of dietary practices of

other cultures, especially indigenous peoples), blatant sexism (in portrayal of

womyn as well as in male dominated organizational practices), and classism (as

can be seen in conferences and get-togethers with mandatory admission prices in

excess of $100). It is because of these things that we have so few people

involved in animal rights activism... We are forcefully excluding people. To add

to this point, I have noticed that many animal rights organizations and

individuals involved in these organizations tend to be very much into single

issue politics, yet they expect people from other movements to drop what they

are doing to help out with AR activism. & ! nbsp; This is why people consider AR

to be a " wingnut " movement.

 

Please keep in mind that this is not being written to bash the AR

community as a whole, but rather to offer some healthy criticism and hopefully

get some people to wake up and realize the problems with our movement (and to

change them ASAP!).

 

If anybody has any comments in regards to this subject (on either side of

the argument), please feel free to send them to me at BeARobot (Im on my

girlfriends e mail right now). Im looking forward to hearing from some of you!

 

Love and liberation!

Geoffrey

 

 

[Guest guest]

WEll, I wouldnt say I am a left wing, not by any

means. Ive only been a christian for five years. Ive

been a toaist since 9/9/99. I cant explain what I feel

about God, only that he exists, and that hes looking

out for me. I never heard him, saw him, or anything

else. Until I became a christain, I thought the bible

was bullpuckey. I dont think God wrote it, but he did

influence the people who did. It was also written a

very long time ago to a people who are very different

that us. I am not sure how it applies to most of

todays situations, but I do find that it holds some

good morals and teachings. There are allot of

christains who are not like me. When I got babtized I

had blue hair and 13 body piercings and two large

tatoos! And my preacher was very cool. This was in the

states....over here church is allot different and I

rarely go. Mainly becuase there arent any non

denominational ones, which is the only kind I feel

comfortable in...

Listen, I smoke gear, I compost and recylce. I have a

cat and I am a very laid back type of personality. I

have feelings. I dont try to big up my

christianity...and I rarely talk about my toaism

because I get embarrased trying to put too many labels

on myself. If people know I am a christain, a toaist,

a veg*an, but yet my best freind is gay, your covered

in tatoos and you get high and drink wine...well then

youve got allot of people calling you all kinds of

things and not really trying to understand who you

are...and the whole time they think your trying too

hard.

ned

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Cardinal Winning at least did a lot for young teenage mums to be and their

babies, he made help available for them to feel they had the choice not to

abort!

I don't know why he had a problem with gays but he might have even saved the

lives of some babies who would turn out to be gay!

That does not seem like hate to me.

 

Lesley - the pro-life atheist

 

 

jane easton [jane.easton]

27 March 2002 15:25

 

 

 

 

hey ned, glad to know you're a liberal christian. i'm not being hostile or

attacking you, (the 'invasion') was half a joke cos i didn't know if you

were a right wing evangelical or not. you can't blame me or others for being

suspicious about christians, as the vast majority have a shitty track record

on lots of things, including homophobia. that's not bigotry on my part, just

self-preservation based on hard-earned experience.

 

if you are from the uk, you may remember the nasty stuff about section 28

that was whipped up by scottish christians a couple of years ago, including

that git who owns 'stagecoach' bus company & also the late non-lamented

cardinal whinning, scourge of the gay community. the real result of that was

that the incidence of violent attacks on gays rose like a rocket - so much

for whinning & co's christian values. and that's just one small example from

recent history. so please don't attack me either!! as for me, i wasn't the

victim of a physical attack, but the climate at schools at the time was

pretty shocking & i walked out of my job cos kids were harrassing me &

management were too frightened to do anything cos of the aforementioned

section 28. hence my wariness.

 

if you are from the states, just remember people like anita bryant & other

gay bashers. christians who were full of hate. scary people. i hope that the

above examples have put our minor angers into perspective.

 

but you are obviously not like that - good! i do think i have the right to

ask as i want to be sure that i can trust people on this list to a certain

degree.

 

i find it interesting that you chose to 'big up' your christianity but not

your taoism - why's that, out of curiosity? you say you believe in 'god' -

not sure what that means personally - if it's a conscious guiding force,

then it don't make sense to me. if it's just a recognition of the energy

that breathes us & makes us part of the universe, then yeah. but i don't

think the latter would sit down & write down a book of rules.

 

for me, the trouble with the major religions is that they take the essential

experience of oneness/life force (that people have experienced thru being in

nature , meditation, drugs or whatever), then try to market into a tool of

social control. i guess that's why i like buddhism & paganism.

 

despite going to a church of england junior primary school, christianity

never stuck. i always found it totally alien, the idea of a dead guy stuck

on a bit of wood. just so morbid & non-life affirming. and then, messiahs

were ten a penny during jesus's time. everyone is looking for a saviour when

their country is overrun by imperialist forces, aren't they?

 

but i guess you have a totally different take on the above, which is fine.

whatever gets you thru.

 

btw, i don't think people on this list are trying to hound any newcomers out

& i don't think they are full of hate. suspicion, yes - for the above

reasons and others. and also anger, cos of the abuses on animals and human

beings. it's hard to stay loving when you see a big bully government bombing

somewhere like iraq or afghanistan, or know that there are people being paid

to torture animals, for whatever 'scientific' justification.

 

like i say, people are just a mass of contradictions...

 

keep writing, stay on the list

 

j

 

 

 

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Hi Genie,

 

If You have Microsoft Access, You can catalog your recipes & have them searchable by ingredient or however you want. I just began doing this myself with all the recipes from this list. It is time consuming to begin, but it will be well worth it in the long run. Besides it saves paper & ink on printing up all the recipes.

Have Fun-

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Thanks Dan! :-)

 

And, sure eiither way about how you send it to me. I'd love to

hear your's and anyone's stories about how they felt when they

first went gluten-free. The article isn't due until December, so

we can take our time on putting it together. I'd really like to

have a large collection of stories (even just a few lines would

be good) from as many people as possible about how they felt

after going gluten free.

 

I plan to post my request for stories on celiac.com, but this

list is especially on topic because of the connection to veganism

as well.

 

Deborah

 

why am I not surprised???? You're brilliant Deborah - keep it

up!!

I'd be willing to offer my story for ya if you want. Maybe over

email

would be more appropriate than on this list - unless everyone

wants to

join in on the discussion. (Yes...it's an INFP thing...gotta let

everyone else set boundaries for us because we don't really have

any.

Just look at Stephen!)

 

Dan

 

, " Deborah Pageau "

<dpageau@d...>

wrote:

> Hi everyone;

>

> I have just received a very flattering invitation from the

> Belgian Vegetarian Society (EVA) http://www.vegetarian.be to

> write an article for their website and/or publications about

> gluten-free vegan diet. I have received this invitation

because

> of some comments I posted to the International Vegetarian

Union's

> Science elist last winter. The comments were " clear-headed and

> fully alert people are more likely to be at their best, willing

> and able to do their best, than when they are foggy and numbed

> with opiods. " and that " Because of this, I think awareness

about

> gluten enteropathy SHOULD be a much more high profile issue in

> vegetarian education and promotion. I expect that it would

> prevent a significant number of vegetarian " drop outs " . "

>

> I am in the process of accepting the invitation and asking for

> more details about what they have in mind, how long they want

it,

> what time-frame, etc. So I haven't much to share with you

about

> it yet other than that I plan to do it.

>

> While we await response from the lady who extended the

> invitation, I was thinking it would be good to just start

> brain-storming a little on the topic. Any input from anyone

> would be great. Just maybe start by saying how long you've

been

> eating a gluten free diet, why you started, how you found out

> that you needed to, what difference in makes in your life, what

> references and sources of advice you use... basically,

whatever.

> I honestly haven't met many other vegans who also eat their

diet

> gluten-free.

>

> Once I have more details from Belgium on what they want, I will

> be able to ask more meaningful questions, but I was thinking it

> would be good to sort of get the gears rolling. It's a very

> scientific-based website, so I will be seeking references for

any

> claims that I make, if anyone has good ones already collected,

> I'd be happy to receive them.

>

> Neat, huh?? :-)

>

> Deborah

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

yeha- i never seem to eat it all before it goes bad- and with all the

sodium- it's not like you shoudl eat it everyday till it's gone right?? haha

i'd be big as a balloon

 

 

Beth Berner [texberner]

Friday, November 08, 2002 11:43 AM

Veg-Recipes

 

 

 

The following is what my mom had to say when i fowarded the email:

 

well, i don't actually know. perhaps a couple of weeks. i've lost most of

tubs. or rather plastic pouches. so, perhaps what one should do is take it

out and freeze it in ice cube trays, thereby having small amounts to add to

recipes. actually, i don't even know it it freezes well.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I also thought of you this morning... Once I had a miso based dressing.. It

was miso and maple and ginger... at this vegan restaurant.. very yummy )

 

 

snowtrees [snowtrees]

Friday, November 22, 2002 11:43 AM

Veg-Recipes

 

 

 

I have a couple of newly discovered food allergies, what a pain!!

 

Lemon juice makes an excellent substitute for vinegar in salads. Lime juice

in any bean salad is wonderful, better then apple cider or balsamic etc.

IMO anyway

 

I can't have sour cream either but I can have a limited amount of yogurt. I

make yogurt cheese nearly every week! It is a fabulous substitute for cream

cheese and sour cream.

 

 

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" sistergoddess " <sistergoddess

allergic to vinegar/sour cream

 

I'm allergic to vinegar, and have found that many salads call for it

as an ingredient (i.e. the lentil salad posted recently). Sour cream

is also a " no " for me. Any suggestions for substitutions?

Amy

 

 

 

 

 

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Are you looking for some free email account ??

 

Try this : http://freemail.vze.com

 

and you will love it....

[Guest guest]

I have soya milk called "White Wave" and it is 87 pence a litre (compare that with an average of 1.39!!) - it tastes fine to me - have any of you guys tried it??

 

Nick

On Wednesday, Feb 12, 2003, at 19:25 Europe/London, Don Moore wrote:

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Don,

 

Get yourself a carton of Alpro Soya Fresh. You'll find it in the same

section as the refrigerated dairy milks. It's an absolute corker and i

know several vegetarians who prefer it over milk.

 

k@

On Wednesday, Feb 12, 2003, at 19:25 Europe/London, Don Moore wrote:

 

> Can anybody give me the characteristics of each type of milk ie soya,

> rice and coconut milks

>  

> Unfortuneately, I drink milk in my tea, I've tried sweetened soya milk

> and generally find them all repulsive.

>  

> Regards Don

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm glad that someone is supporting Plamil's soya milk division. I

just..erm...it's defo not my cuppa'. Never thought of myself as a soya

milk snob, but...there you go.

 

k@

On Wednesday, Feb 12, 2003, at 19:28 Europe/London, Nick Abbott wrote:

 

> I have soya milk called " White Wave " and it is 87 pence a litre

> (compare that with an average of 1.39!!) - it tastes fine to me - have

> any of you guys tried it??

>  

> Nick

>

> On Wednesday, Feb 12, 2003, at 19:25 Europe/London, Don Moore wrote:

>

> Can anybody give me the characteristics of each type of milk ie soya,

> rice and coconut milks

>  

> Unfortuneately, I drink milk in my tea, I've tried sweetened soya milk

> and generally find them all repulsive.

>  

> Regards Don

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Don,

 

It took me a long time to find soya milks that I liked.

 

The fresh soya milks that you buy refrigerated are the best in my opinion -

especially Alpro. Good enough to drink by the glassful and wonderful on cereal.

 

I don't like sweetened milks, especially in tea. Of the non-fresh soya

milks I find the Alpro (aka Provamel) unsweetened one the best. Doesn't

tend to curdle in tea either. Never found one that worked well in coffee so

I now drink it black.

 

rice milk tastes alright, but the ones I've tried have been kind of thin

and watery, and don't colour your tea much. A bit off-putting!

 

I think coconut milk would make your tea taste very strange, but it might

grow on you ...

 

Tracy

 

At 07:25 PM 2/12/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>Can anybody give me the characteristics of each type of milk ie soya, rice

>and coconut milks

>

>Unfortuneately, I drink milk in my tea, I've tried sweetened soya milk and

>generally find them all repulsive.

>

>Regards Don

>

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most vegans do not consider honey vegan

depends on the person..

[Guest guest]

Honey isn't vegan. The queen bees have their wings clipped so that they cannot fly away to start new hives. Also the honey is the food for the babies, and this is taken away and replaced with sugar water, which does not have the full range of nutrients the babies need. No wonder the bee populations are succumbing to various illnesses.

 

 

Jo

 

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Peter May

Sunday, April 06, 2003 4:51 PM

 

 

is honey vegan?

i don't eat it personally but would value some one else opinion

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[Guest guest]

I do believe the Vegan Society has put a nix on honey and other bee

products. If you don't care about the insects--and, hey, some people don't

care about their welfare--consider the fact that honey is bee puke.

 

Danielle

 

 

 

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Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:51:46 +0100

 

is honey vegan?

i don't eat it personally but would value some one else opinion

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Gayle!

Could you please respond to me with your personal email address. My email is

ayiti_cherie. I have a few questions for you and I am interested in

talking to a long term vegan such as yourself with older kids who were vegan

from birth. Thanks!

-

Gayle N-F

Monday, April 14, 2003 10:20 AM

 

 

 

Hi all,

I don't think I've taken the time to introduce myself to the group, though I

have been enjoying the postings. My name is Gayle and I live in Florida. I

have six-year-old quintuplets (3 girls and 2 boys) whom have been vegan since

conception. I have been vegan for about 31 years. My husband tried to be

vegetarian before we got married and even a few years into our marriage but then

became a closet omnivore. Just within the last year has he been up front about

eating animal products (though I've known for some time - just waited for him to

tell me). This causes a few problems between him and the kids, but at

six-years-old they understand that some people do eat animals. They don't know

any other name for meat products other than what they are, i.e. dead cow, dead

pig, dead chicken, etc ... My DH is understanding enough to cook his food on

the grill outside since he knows I get sick at the smell of burning flesh and

don't want those products in my pots and pans. Overall, I can't complain.

Anyone else out there with non-vegan/vegetarian spouses? What do you do? How

do you handle it all?

 

I saw a great recipe on this list for a vegan mac 'n " cheese " using

nutritional yeast (yum! I love nut'l yeast! My kids eat it straight out of the

cannister.). I tried the recipe the other day and loved it. Two of my kids

loved it, the other three did not. They took " no thank-you bites and politely

refused opting for peanut butter sandwiches instead. Hmmm! Go figure! LOL I

think this is because I've been making it a different way. I use cooked pasta

(any and all vegan varieties), drain it, then put olive, canola, safflower -

whatever kind of oil I'm in the mood for or have on hand, or a non-hydrogenated

vegan margarine (i.e. Earth Balance) on the pasta, then sprinkle with a generous

amount of nut'l yeast and some sea salt and garlic. My kids LOVE this. I've

tried it with other additives (one of my sons and I love it with basil) and the

same two that like the other recipe always love it, but with the other three its

always a crap shoot. All but one of them like to have tomato sauce added to it

also.

 

For anyone not sure of what to do with nut'l yeast, Joanne Stepaniak has a

cookbook out called, Nutritional Yeast Cookbook : Recipes Using Red Star

Vegetarian Support Formula Flakes, that came out in 1997. It's a great cookbook

and I find that I use it frequently. There's a great recipe in there for

crackers that I never can make enough of. They are gone before I can put them

in a tin and in the pantry. I guess that saves on shelf space! LOL

 

I'm glad to be on this list. In the short time that I have been on it, I have

found it to be a great list and quite beneficial. Thanx!

 

God's Peace,

Gayle - mom to Naomi, Ethan, Rebekah, Seth, and Arielle - 3/31/97

" Resolve to be tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic

with the striving, and tolerant with the weak and wrong ... for sometime in your

life you will have been all of these. " Author Unknown

 

 

[Guest guest]

Carol, I am so sorry to hear that. My heart goes out to his family, as well as

to you and your pets. Having a dog that is totally neurotic and skittish, I know

how important the right vet can be. I don't know what we'd do if we couldn't

bring our dog to our wonderful Dr. Miller.

 

I hope you can find someone new who is just as loving and good at their work.

 

 

 

Dale and Carol Wade <caroldalewade wrote:

Hi Friends,

 

I know this is 'off-topic'....but have just learned that my beloved veterinarian

was killed in a motorcycle accident. He took care of my animals for 30 years. He

truly was a compassionate vet. It is a loss for the people who loved him...and

the many animals he cared for.

 

Thank you for letting me post this....and if you are so inclined, kindly offer

up a little prayer.

 

Thanks again,

 

Carol

 

 

[Guest guest]

>

> What are those links in your message?

>

> Are they your homepage or something like that?

 

Hi Irene Marie ;=)

 

Well, they weren't so much in my message as in the all-purpose signature

I use. The first is the homepage of a Dogs in the City list I run (all

doglovers welcome to join); the second is my homepage (everyone welcome

to peek).

 

Best,

Pat

 

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SANTBROWN

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* " He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with

men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals. " -

Immanuel Kant

 

* " I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the

way of a whole human being. " - Abraham Lincoln

 

* " There are too many idiots in this world. And having said it, I have

the burden of proving it. " - Franz Fanon

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