Guest guest Report post Posted August 23, 2007 I would definitely NOT use Frontline or any of these spot on type TOXIC chemicals on any dog or cat! Once these chemicals are absorbed into the system they CANNOT be removed, even with repeated bathing so that if your pet suffers a reaction ..... If these chemicals are so safe for your pets...why then do YOU have to wear gloves and avoid any contact with the skin? If they are not safe for me to be in contact with then they are definitely not safe for my pets. DE - Food Grade (Diatomaceous Earth ) is a far safer, natural product to use that will kill all sorts of insects and other pests and is completely harmless to your pet. huggs Lyndall ---- Renee 23/08/2007 10:53:02 AM Re: Re: Fleas If the flea infestation is bad the only true help you can give them is to get Frontline Top Spot, which even though it is a chemical it is very, very safe for cats and dogs. Hope this helps. Renee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Yes DE is safer, natural and a viable option IF you don't have a major flea infestation. This year we have had a terrible season. We are suppose to be dry but it has rained more this summer than any time before and we had a major flea problem. If you read my post I did NOT advocate using Frontline Top Spot more than one month, just to get the fleas under control. I would rather do that than have my animals suffer the way they were. DE was not doing the job, neither was vacuuming every day, nor bathing, nor garlic nor anything else. And I did say that the lady that I got this information from had her readers (she owned a cat magazine) do a test and over 700 people did the test with Frontline Top Spot and not one cat, from week old kittens to old cats, got even one day of being sick--outside of that one that the lady scratched the Top Spot actually into the skin with her fingernails. No one else had trouble of any sort. And this lady had her readers preform this test only after reading European studies done with Top Spot that included thousands of cats. I also stated NOT to use Frontline Plus as it has a much more dangerous chemical in it. I should have said that yes--any animal, like any person, can have an adverse reaction, be that one in a thousand that has adverse effect from ANY product--so I should have included that each person should test their pet using perhaps just one drop to see how the pet reacts to it. And they tell YOU to put on gloves because they have to say that. FDA and all, you know. There are much safer things than chemicals, I agree, but if after you have tried everything else and the pet is still " suffering " --because they can be allergic (as my old dog is) to flea bites the same as they can be allergic to Top Spot, then any " safe " chemical I can use, I will use. And just so you know--there are those who believe that even DE can harm the inside of a cat's delicate stomach lining if they ingest too much, even by licking it off their fur if used monthly as flea control. There will always be choices we have to make for our pets and we each do the best we can for them. That's all anyone can ask. Samala, Renee ---- I would definitely NOT use Frontline or any of these spot on type TOXIC chemicals on any dog or cat! Once these chemicals are absorbed into the system they CANNOT be removed, even with repeated bathing so that if your pet suffers a reaction ..... If these chemicals are so safe for your pets...why then do YOU have to wear gloves and avoid any contact with the skin? If they are not safe for me to be in contact with then they are definitely not safe for my pets. DE - Food Grade (Diatomaceous Earth ) is a far safer, natural product to use that will kill all sorts of insects and other pests and is completely harmless to your pet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 24, 2007 where can i find DE? can find it at walmart? or is it at feed stores? Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 25, 2007 Thank you all for the wonderful ideas. I have found that fresh eucalyptas leaves are working wonders. I have put them all over my jeep, which is where I am living, and the animals seem to be flea free. Thanks again folks. All these ideas are wonderful. I will keep them in mind, and pass them along to others that ask me how to control fleas. Kathy , " Kathy " <schneiderhansen wrote: > > I am looking for a good natural way of keeping fleas off my dog and > cats. I am traveling, so I need something that will work well. Does > anyone know of a topical solution? Or can I feed the animals something > that would help keep the fleas off? > > Thanks, Kathy > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 25, 2007 sometimes nurseries carry DE in their organic gardening section. Be sure you ask for food grade DE - the kind that is sold by swimming pool companies is definitely NOT what you want to buy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 25, 2007 Mostly now you have to go to garden centers. Home Depot and Lowe's use to carry the food grade, but they stopped 2 years ago. They do carry it, but it's pool grade, not what you want to use on your pets or your house and yard. So try your biggest local garden nursery. It's not expensive. Some people put it in an empty squirt catsup or mustard container so they can puff " it onto their garden plants when they are having bug problems. DE will kill all bugs, both good and bad, so you have to decide whether or not it's something you want to apply to your whole yard. I do not do that because there are some bugs I want around. I do, however, use it directly on fire ant mounts to kill the ants. Plus my pets for getting rid of fleas. Samala, Renee ---- where can i find DE? can find it at walmart? or is it at feed stores? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 26, 2007 Thanks so much for the ideas as well.... I am dealing with this and it is so bad in the south. I did not have the problem in the north... KA www.beautyisawakened.myarbonne.com http://voluptuouspleasures.yourpassionconsultant.com/ www.ineways.com/renew4life --- Kathy <schneiderhansen wrote: > Thank you all for the wonderful ideas. I have found > that fresh > eucalyptas leaves are working wonders. I have put > them all over my > jeep, which is where I am living, and the animals > seem to be flea free. > Thanks again folks. All these ideas are wonderful. I > will keep them in > mind, and pass them along to others that ask me how > to control fleas. > > Kathy > > , " Kathy " > <schneiderhansen wrote: > > > > I am looking for a good natural way of keeping > fleas off my dog and > > cats. I am traveling, so I need something that > will work well. Does > > anyone know of a topical solution? Or can I feed > the animals > something > > that would help keep the fleas off? > > > > Thanks, Kathy > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 26, 2007 , " Kathy " <schneiderhansen wrote: > > Thank you all for the wonderful ideas. I have found that fresh > eucalyptas leaves are working wonders. I have put them all over my > jeep, which is where I am living, and the animals seem to be flea free. > Thanks again folks. All these ideas are wonderful. I will keep them in > mind, and pass them along to others that ask me how to control fleas. > > Kathy > > , " Kathy " > <schneiderhansen@> wrote: > > > > I am looking for a good natural way of keeping fleas off my dog and > > cats. I am traveling, so I need something that will work well. Does > > anyone know of a topical solution? Or can I feed the animals > something > > that would help keep the fleas off? > > > > Thanks, Kathy > > > Thanks alot.....I just wish that they sold it here. I don't wan tto use frontline because I feel that it is too dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted August 26, 2007 Pennyroyal Oil is good for a lot of insects such as ants, fleas, mosquitoes, etc. Dilute a bit in rubbing alcohol and spray areas where flea's eggs or larvae are most likely to be. It is strong so experiment with the mixing ratio. It does not take much Pennyroyal oil to make a potent spray. Do not use this around pregnant pets as Pennyroyal oil was used as a way to induce abortions though in probably much higher concentrations than a diluted spray. Your house will smell very minty and not everyone will like this. They also sell hormonal stuff that can be sprayed and prevents the eggs from hatching and larvae from developing. It also makes the adult female fleas infertile. Insects reproduce differently than mammals so I don't think this should be detrimental. I use to use it in the days before drops. I have used Revolution drops without any problems but again every pet is different and the reality is that your are making the skin poisonous to insects. Drops are safer on the liver as they are not metabolized like something that is ingested. The safest ingestible flea medication is Capstar. You give it once or twice a week. There are safer flea drops like Farnam Gentle Touch Flea Drops that contain no pesticides or petroleum. I have used these and they work but I had to give it more than once a month to be effective. It is also very safe for puppies and kittens as well as aging pets. It is also pretty cheap compared to other flea drops. The active ingredients are: Sodium Lauryl sulfate...7%, Citric Acid…5.00%. I have several pets and take care of four stray cats at present so controlling the flea problem is imperative. Young pets have been known to become anemic and die with severe flea infestations plus ingesting fleas by pets promotes the intestinal worm cycle as the worm cyst is often present in fleas. , " Kathy " <schneiderhansen wrote: > > I am looking for a good natural way of keeping fleas off my dog and > cats. I am traveling, so I need something that will work well. Does > anyone know of a topical solution? Or can I feed the animals something > that would help keep the fleas off? > > Thanks, Kathy > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 6, 2007 Hi everyone, Just a quick report on my cats' (and house) flea status. I was very concerned about using any powders in the house as I tend to be allergic to them. I bought them, of course but never used them. Instead, I am using Dr. Goodpet's Flea control, which I put in the drinking water. And guess what? I almost never find a flea on the cats and never found another flea anywhere else in the house. I am very happy with the results. I want to thank you all for your suggestions. Now, what can I do about the mosquitoes? Not even inside the house I have a break. Blessings, Maria Dr. Maria Moratto Prescription For Bliss http://rx4bliss.com Dr. Maria Conversation Series http://drmariapresents.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
